Another witch pleads guilty and flips

"Manafort provides Mueller with an insider to the infamous June 2016 Trump Tower meeting and likely many other key moments."

Yep, finally someone at that meeting is on the hook. This will turn quickly...

Leftist conspiracies are certainly entertaining!

Must be Friday...

Should be an interesting weekend on Twitter verse. The rumor is the trump isn't sleeping well. Mandfort flipping should help him sleep real good.....

No collusion! 

MAGA!

Fake News!

Mueller now has a condo in Trump tower...

With the $46 million in assets that the government has rightfully seized from Manafort as part of his deal, this witch-hunt has turned a profit for the tax-payers. 

So there is no more financial-burden argument against this investigation. 

Don jr and Jared better start pumping iron to get ready for the federal jail house.

chumps house of cards starting its collapse

No, not starting..it’s a slow mo collapse

Lol. Friday & another "we've got him now!"

Forecasters are predicting a massive tweet storm in the mid-atlantic region

>> Mueller now has a condo in Trump tower... <<

More like Mueller now has a condo in Trump's brain...

>>>>Lol. Friday & another "we've got him now!"

not sure if it’s that funny but it sure is satisfying 

Trump is a scumbag and is going down........the last two years have been unbelievably bad. Hopefully this ass clown is removed from office soon.

It's September 15th, 2018...do we have proof of conspiracy?  

The words "removed from office" are a window into the injustice of this whole endeavor...there's no purity in this effort, it's inherently conflicted.  

We have at least 8 guilty pleas, so there's definitely "something there". Does it extend to the POTUS? I don't know, but don't you want to find out?

There are multiple reasons I would like this idiot removed from office that have nothing to do with whether he's involved in collusion with Russia.

"We have at least 8 guilty pleas"

Guilty of conspiring with Russians?

of being SCUM

"We have at least 8 guilty pleas"

Guilty of conspiring with Russians?<<<

Do you believe there's actually a "silent coup" being orchestrated by the "deep state"?

If so, why aren't you in the field doing every possible thing you can to thwart it?

If not, then why do you keep pretending there's nothing to see? 

^ good stuff

Lol. Friday & another "we've got him now!"<<<<

Only because the GOP in Congress has been locked into a gross dereliction of duty by abdicating their executive oversight responsibility.

There should never have been "another Friday" a long time ago.

Likewise, I'm starting to believe we might see a sort of "double reverse silent coup"; or whatever the fuck you want to call looking the other way from our country's biggest train wreck ever; surpassing the Civil War IMO.

^ good stuff<<<

It's actually THAT simple.

>> Guilty of conspiring with Russians?<<<

Bryen, this whole thing is about getting to the truth. If MuellerCo needs to convict others to put them over a barrel in order to get the truth, so be it. If Mueller's report concludes there was no collusion/conspiracy I will accept that. I assume you want the truth, too.

The whole Russian cloud thickened during Manafort's tenure as campaign chair. This is undeniable. Now that he's cooperating with Mueller will will finally get some clarity on what was going on and if any laws were broken (or not). I assume you want the truth, too.

It'll likely come down to money laundering, lying to the FBI, and obstruction...    Trumps been laundering money for the Russians via property since at least 1984 (the standard method for foreigners in the US), even the Patriot act has exemptions for property (if you need a deep state conspiracy, you should look into that).  He's been lying since day one, all you need to do his play his various quotes and tweets to demonstrate obstruction.  Throw in some campaign finance violations, etc, and you'll have a decent case for removal from office, let alone criminal convictions (which we get a new one every week)...   Seems like a lot of dirty republicans have been going down, with more to come...   time to take the trash out!!!

Either way, Trumps a truly incompetent asshole who should be punched in the face by America, God Bless....  (the only constitutional crisis is from the congress not exercising is oversight duties, but those sheep will meet their makers in Nov) 

 but those sheep will meet their makers in Nov<<<

I agree with just about everything else you said, but not so sure ^ this will happen.  They've already sunk low enough to have learned that it's not necessary to do the "right thing" if they can otherwise retain and wield power.   They will play the obstruction role until the midnight hour.

>>>>Bryen, this whole thing is about getting to the truth

not sure if you’ve picked up on this, but Bryen is an asshole who isn’t interested in what anyone else has to say

carry on 

You mean redistricting?  Or the long list of ways they prevent folks from voting?   all true, the Republicans love suppressing the vote.  But had Hillary won, the revolt in Nov would be against her, so in an odd way, having the donald get elected could be a good thing.  In order to counteract against all the anti-American and traitorous activities of the Republicans, we needed to lose so we could take over congress (still a much longer shot that some would think, so we're in agreement there), but in order to take over the statehouses, this is the way it sadly had to go down.  One of the most important "prizes" (outside of picking SCOTUS judges), is the 2020 census, having control of the state houses will be huge in correcting all the gerrymandering and other (should be illegal) BS the Republicans have done to keep power.  FWIW, the congress loses the popular vote to Dems even worse than the presidential elections, all due to gerrymandering...    if you can't win on the issues, fight dirty, something the right has done excellently for decades now.  Sometimes I wish their fundamentalist view of religion is true, just so they can be judged by that standard...   but I digress...

Anything and everything; including redistricting.

However, I was referring to simply letting Trump remain in office even in light of overwhelming evidence impeachable offenses have been committed.

While the Dems might get lucky and retake a simple majority in the Senate, they're definitely not going to get the necessary super-majority.  

There might be a defection or a few from the GOP, but I'm not sure there'll be enough to make a difference.

I hate to say it, but it's not a stretch to think this can happen.  It's already gotten this far without much in the way of even spoken words to condemn Trump's countless trangressions. 

Just ask how we can even be contemplating a SCOTUS nomination in light of the mountain of evidence that's piling up?  Maybe that's what this is all about (abidcation) and once Kavanaugh is confirmed they'll relent ... but I don't see any reason why they will.

^ classic

wait until RBG leaves the court one way or another........."you people" will lose your mf'n minds  if trump is still there. or if not him, ol' whitey pence will do the picking

The point is, history will see this for what it is, and it's not a good look.

An interesting dynamic no one seems to be discussing is the precedent it sets, from now on as soon as the polls close the default setting for the losing party will be finding a path towards impeachment, and don't kid yourself, that's exactly what this is, systematically usurping the will of the people, rationalizing the treachery as we go.

>>>>The point is, history will see this for what it is, and it's not a good look.

When did Republicans look good to you and why? 

"When did Republicans look good to you and why?"

When the Republican nominee kept the neoconservative warmonger from the White House.

He's at war with immigrants.

you left off the word "illegal"

He's at war with possibly legal and illegal non white immigrants including children.

He's not profiling any white people. Oh wait. He's at war with all legal liberal voters.

she left off misogynistic

“I love war,” Donald Trump said.

That’s becoming more and more apparent — and more and more disturbing. The leading GOP presidential candidate declared his passion for violence on Thursday during a morbid, 95-minute, stream-of-consciousness rant in Fort Dodge, Iowa, a speech that was truly bananas, even by Trump’s standards.

https://www.expressnews.com/news/news_columnists/brian_chasnoff/article/...

Surfdead, respectfully...what planet are you on that you think our level of armed conflict isn't significantly less than the past two administrations?

^ on the edge of my seat, have at it

More U.S. troops have died in war zones this year than in 2016 — the first time in six years that the number of service members killed overseas has increased over the previous year — and some blame President Donald Trump's decision to increase American military presence in multiple theaters. 

In total, 31 service members have died in action overseas so far this year, up from 26 in all of 2016, according to government data. This does not include the 17 sailors who died in sea accidents this year, Military Times reports.

  https://www.newsweek.com/trump-us-military-deaths-war-zones-are-first-ti...

It's about the saddest discussion anyone can ever have, I want to choose my words very carefully, if you for a moment think this president has increased our level of conflict compared to the past two administrations I think that should be fair warning to those paying attention.

STFU you idiot go annoy your family and friends for a change 

>>>>ol' whitey pence will do the picking

Sure, he had nothing to do with this shitshow.  Why did Manafort talk Trump into choosing him as VP, anyway?  Would be nice if Manafort shed any light on this.  Or Flynn, or.....???

So Bryen, are you trying to say that Trump has lowered the level of conflict, but increased the number of dead US soldiers (some of whom have been Navy Seals and special forces members)?   Not to mention all those sailors who died in what seemed like mostly avoidable accidents in SE Asia...

Not sounding good to me.

Actually, bombings, and civilian deaths, are way up under Trump;  

https://airwars.org/news/airwars-annual-assessment-2017/

https://aoav.org.uk/2018/2017-set-worst-year-civilian-fatalities-since-a...

http://www.latimes.com/world/asia/la-fg-afghanistan-us-airstrikes-201712...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/a-new-us-air-blitz-in-...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/23/somali-citizens-count-cost...

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/12/saudi-raids-kill-70-yemeni-civili...

Dude dropped the MOAB

I think the point was that unlike the past two administrations, Trump has (so far) not committed large numbers of US ground forces to active combat zones, which has resulted in far fewer American casualties when compared to the height of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.  For example, in 2007, 904 American troops where killed in Iraq.  American casualties in Afghanistan peaked in 2010 with 499 killed.  

In recent years, the annual number of Americans killed in conflicts worldwide have numbered in the dozens.

What Trump has done, however, was to step up bombing of ISIS in Iraq and Syria compared to the Obama administration and increased the number of drone strikes in places like Yemen and Somalia.   

Of course, this doesn't mean that Trump's foreign policy is any better than Obama's, it just means less Americans have been killed.

<< if you for a moment think this president has increased our level of conflict compared to the past two administrations I think that should be fair warning to those paying attention>>

<<what planet are you on that you think our level of armed conflict isn't significantly less than the past two administrations?>>

I think it's pretty clear that W started the wars (and never paid for them).  It's also pretty clear that hostilities dropped dramatically during O's 2nd term.  I think we can only speculate on what would have occurred under Hillary, but technically the decline in 2016 started to reverse in 2017 in terms of drone attacks (we're in agreement).  Our involvement in Somalia and Yemen has increased under Trump.  

Bryan, dude,  some Neoconservatives are Centrist Democrats (like the Clintons), but most are Republicans. Remember, they're Conservatives. Trump has gone along with the objectives in PNAC's Rebuilding America's Defenses as much as ever. Where's your head?

An interesting dynamic no one seems to be discussing is the precedent it sets, from now on as soon as the polls close the default setting for the losing party will be finding a path towards impeachment, and don't kid yourself, that's exactly what this is, systematically usurping the will of the people, rationalizing the treachery as we go.<<<

So, you don't believe in impeachment as a legitimate tool in ANY case?

One could support either side of this argument based on their news source.

Impeachment doesn't usurp the will of the people - both impeachment and conviction are decided in Congress, the members of which are chosen by the people. It's in the Constitution.

^ on the edge of my seat, have at it<<<

And the world is on the edge of its seat in a "step function manner"; unfortunately, it'd be an enormous step downward into depths of oblivion.

I've been struggling to figure out a way to say it in plain English; that isn't inflammatory, nor compromises my faith in giving everyone a chance until we meet the actual precipice; in a similar way the rattlesnake gives it's very best and loudest rattles prior to being compelled to physically strike.  Make no mistake Bryen, this will go beyond words on monitors; be careful you understand the full scope and consequences of your decision when you ultimately "pick your side".

It's clear to me which way the wind is blowing & once we have an official confirmation of such, I will do whatever it takes.

Impeachment doesn't usurp the will of the people - both impeachment and conviction are decided in Congress, the members of which are chosen by the people. It's in the Constitution<<<

But that's not what Rush, Hannity, Levin, Ingraham, etc. would have you believe ... they've clearly got one foot in the door of sedition.

>Bryan, dude...Where's your head?<

And that chick up there is cute. I'd take her out. 

Anyone catch Mark Levin's new show on FOX ?

Its called Life, Liberty & Levin.

Its on at 10pm on Sunday.

Its called Life, Liberty & Levin<<<

His voice intonation seems to be "stuck" ... as if he is always perpetually whining.  Likely wouldn't work very well for him selling burritos in the lot.

But in all seriousness, Levin and the rest prompt me to question whether the breadth of the 1st Amendment is a good thing ... in so far as  allowing seditious speech to propagate to the extent it has.

I submit this documentary :

https://youtu.be/y0AfzvybRDw

It's interesting, when I've pointed out the absurdity that although no actual votes were changed, Russia somehow caused people in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan & Wisconsin to walk into voting booths and reject Hillary, many of you cry foul by saying "it's not about that", the documentary posted above insists that is exactly what it's about...so which is it?

http://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/406881-lisa-page-bombshell-fbi-couldnt-...

What's interesting is that you rarely answer questions, but then cry when yours aren't answered. 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/09/14/woodward_no_evidence_...

It was rhetorical Floops

AHOTUS won by playing the system, he will go down by the system. seems fair.

Rhetorical or not, the pattern is spot on as Floops noted.

This charade has continued long enough.  

Watch the propaganda piece and tell me it's not about the election results and Russia's mystical control over voters in the rust belt.

Thanks for sharing those interesting articles, Bryen.

>>> Watch the propaganda piece and tell me it's not about the election results and Russia's mystical control over voters in the rust belt.

ok.

it's not.

now go away

It's certainly what Hillary's documentary would have you believe.

haven't you gone away yet?

Rhetorical or not, Bryen, you know shit about Neoconservatism. Thus your entire rant fails. I'm not saying anything about you, just your ideas. You I find interesting. Are you like twenty- three? You're not thirty. What do you do for a living?

Hillman, can I take out your chick? I know you got dibs. Respect.

A lot of ruffled feathers, as the spoon-fed narrative unravels in the days and weeks to come, just remember these discussion points, I certainly hope I've been respectful, that was my intention...let the name calling commence.

You’re a cunt. How was that?

edit: I’m sorry, I meant stupid cunt. 

^ classy

http://thephilzone.net/viewtopic.php?f=8&p=18932#p18932

>>>classy

thanks toots 

predictable reaction 

Bryen, is there a link to the propaganda piece?  I want to watch it.

Highnote Stringtwang on Sunday, September 16, 2018 – 02:28 pm 

I submit this documentary :

https://youtu.be/y0AfzvybRDw

The video has since been taken down, here's the trailer...if there's an official Hillary endorsed narrative, this would be it, fear and loathing abound

https://youtu.be/cLD6jroVA38

The media's and the Democratic Party's obsession with the Trump-Russia conspiracy theory originates from events of April-June 2016.  Media operations by the Democratic Party and its media echo chamber have distorted not only the information about the relevant events, but even the background political picture of April 2016.

The DNC and Hillary constructed a conspiracy theory in which Putin ordered the hacking of the DNC network and subsequent mass distribution of the exfiltrated documents to help Trump beat Hillary.  Such actions were against Russian interests and very unusual for Russian intelligence.
Driven by their conspiracy theory, Hillary indulged in anti-Russian rhetoric, and the Obama administration drove relations with Russia to the worst point in the last 40 years.  Since the elections, the Democrats, the hard left, and the institutions owned by them have been pushing Trump to aggravate the conflict, started by Obama and Hillary.  But let's proceed in chronological order.

• Summer 2015 – The FBI warns the DNC about alleged Russian hacking.
The DNC ignores the warning.

• April 28, 2016 – The DNC discovers suspicious activity on its network.
...and calls its lawyer, Marc Elias.  On May 6, after more than a week of waffling, the DNC brings in cyber-security contractor CrowdStrike, selected based on affinity rather than on merits.  CrowdStrike "determines" there were two breaches and names the culprits behind them – Cozy Bear and Fancy Bear – claimed by CrowdStrike to be Russian elite hacker units of FSB and GRU respectively.

The DNC refused to allow the FBI to access its computers, which it thought had been accessed by FSB and GRU.  Apparently, the FBI consented to be subordinate of FSB and GRU on this issue.

• June 12, 2016 – Assange of WikiLeaks declares that he's got internal documents from the DNC.

...and is going to publish them.  Surprised, the DNC and Hillary's campaign decide to pre-empt and even exploit this publication.

• June 14, 2016 – The DNC announces the network breach through a WaPo article.
CrowdStrike publishes alleged technical details on its website.  Both blame the Russian government.  The DNC says that only a few documents had been compromised, including opposition research on Trump.  This is an open invitation for WikiLeaks to publish that research.

• June 15, 2016 – Guccifer 2.0 claims the hack and posts several DNC documents on guccifer2.wordpress.com. 
Guccifer 2.0 wasn't known before that.  The opposition research is among the published files.  Independent analysts discover Russian fingerprints – the opposition research file shows an error message in Russian and had been last saved on a computer with Windows in Russian by Феликс Эдмундович.  Феликс Эдмундович refers to Felix Edmundovich Dzerzhinsky (1877-1926), the founder of the Cheka, the predecessor to the KGB.  Gotcha!  The ecstatic media form the narrative: all leaked DNC-Hillary documents come from the Russian government; Guccifer 2.0 is a front for a Russian intelligence operation.

Just a few weeks or days earlier, the DNC hired Fusion GPS, which hired Christopher Steele to produce dirt on Trump.  The outcome was a series of absurd pieces, which became known as the "Steele dossier."  It was called "a garbage document" by Bob Woodward.  The only known version of it was published by BuzzFeed.  The first "Steele report," dated June 20, makes bizarre claims and leaves the impression that Steele was unclear about what the client wanted him to write.

• July 16, 2016 – Guccifer 2.0 offers WikiLeaks about 1GB of leaked DNC documents.
Hillary, convinced that Guccifer 2.0 was a front for the Russian government, concludes that Putin had betrayed her.  I think that at that time she decided to invent a narrative that she is tough on Russia while Trump is Putin's puppet.  It was the summer of 2016, and people didn't know that the MSM had shifted from being biased to being shameless fake news.  Hillary's plan worked.

• July 18, 2016 – Hillary/DNC launch Trump-Putin conspiracy theory through WaPo and N.Y. Mag.
WaPo publishes an article titled "Trump campaign guts GOP's anti-Russia stance on Ukraine" (Josh Rogin), and N.Y. Mag "Is Donald Trump Working for Russia?" (Jonathan Chait).  The N.Y. Mag piece is a purported analysis.  It mentions the WaPo article, but it couldn't have been written in a half-hour.  Thus, these articles were part of a media operation by Hillary and/or the DNC.  The WaPo article falsely claimed that Trump's campaign had weakened the GOP platform regarding support for Ukraine against a Russian invasion and briefly mentioned Paul Manafort.

This DNC-Hillary media operation has achieved its apparent goal – establishing a crazy conspiracy theory of Trump-Putin collusion as a dominant media narrative.
• July 20-25, 2016 – Third Steele report mentions DNC files on WikiLeaks.
It's possible that Steele learned the new party line from the July 18 WaPo article, from copycats in other outlets, or directly from Hillary's boys.  None of the previous "reports" had mentioned a DNC hacking, WikiLeaks, Guccifer 2.0, or Paul Manafort.  But this one talked extensively about Manafort and the DNC documents on WikiLeaks.  Manafort and the DNC leaks had been placed together only in the WaPo article, which was largely retold in this Steele piece.  Examples:
 
"Suggestion from source close to TRUMP and MANAFORT that Republican campaign team happy to have Russia as media bogeyman[.]"
"TRUMP associate admits Kremlin behind recent appearance of DNC e-mails on WikiLeaks, as means of maintaining plausible deniability[.]"
Don't ask me which "Trump associate admits" something on behalf of the Kremlin – the whole Steele dossier consists of such rubbish.

• July 22, 2016 – A WikiLeaks dump reveals:
The DNC had cheated Bernie out of the votes in the primaries to make Hillary the presidential candidate.

• July 25, 2016 – The Democratic National Convention starts with a huge scandal.
The revelation of the dirty collusion between the Hillary campaign and the Democratic National Committee against Bernie rocks the Democratic National Convention.  Hillary blames Russia and Putin; the MSM echoes.  Hillary, the DNC, and the media become deluded into the consensus that Putin is behind Trump.  Now it's official: Hillary runs against Vladimir.

• July 26, 2016 – Fourth Steele report is almost entirely devoted to alleged Russian cyber-operations. 

Note that the "Steele reports" were received by the DNC, and any piece might have been leaked to the media at any time after receiving.

• July 31, 2016 – FBI launches operation Crossfire Hurricane.
After watching the Democratic convention for days, reading media reports and Steele fantasies conveying the Democratic narrative, Peter Strzok decided to act.  Within two days, he and a few other Obama loyalists in the FBI started the operation Crossfire Hurricane, initially spying on Trump but then attempting a full-spectrum suppression of Candidate Trump and the Republican party.

Aftermath
Within a couple of weeks, CIA director John Brennan and other members of the Obama administration joined Crossfire Hurricane.  Obama-Hillary loyalists in DOJ, FBI, CIA, DNI, and DHS incited Republican senators against Trump, spread anti-Trump propaganda through media leaks, and even broadcasted support to the DNC-Hillary conspiracy theory of in a joint DNI-DHS statement merely a month before the elections.  These efforts continued after the elections and morphed into a coup d'état.

Oh hey shit head! Have a good night you miserable cunt! I’m sure whoever you live with hates you! 

Have a good night Bucky

This DNC-Hillary RNC-Trump media operation has achieved its apparent goal – establishing a crazy conspiracy theory of Trump-Putin Hillary-MSM  collusion as a dominant media narrative.

Bryen really brings out the best in people.

obviously 

Bryen, have you considered the possibility that you're completely wrong?  Likewise, do you realize the stakes at play if so?

Look...I like you guys, I care very deeply about this community, I realize what I'm trying to explain to you turns your entire belief system on its head, the reaction is somewhat predictable and to be expected.  Fasten your seatbelts, in days not weeks this thing will completely unravel and be seen for what it is, make no mistake, this is the biggest scandal in the history of the republic and when the details surface in the coming days it will dwarf Watergate.  Attack the messenger, it's to be expected, I get it, it matters not...the events that will unfold in the next 4-5 days will be historic.

You should be banned for that prediction one week from today.

https://vivalazone.org/other-stuff/golf-prediction

Yep, you've totally ignored everyone else's points. Probably 22, 23. Thinks he knows it all better than experienced adults.

>>>>Look...I like you guys, I care very deeply about this community,

STFU you stupid, stupid, fucking cunt 

take deep breaths, it's a beautiful day outside, autumn is upon us, the colors of the season are about to paint the landscape, stay calm and carry on!

>>>>take deep breaths

sure pal. I’m going to go outside and do some yard work. perhaps you should think about the choices that you’ve made that have lead you to the point in your life where a main source of entertainment is politically trolling a dbmb with 17 active members.

good day sir! 

and a very good day to you

Actually it’s raining pretty heavily right now I’ll probably just micro-smoke and play golf clash instead 

1977 British Open - Duel in the Sun 

https://youtu.be/FJTg9hh-Z5c

A family member I'm very close to worked at the White House for over 20 years, and all the back stories I'm hearing lead to the worse case scenario of Trump being completely incompetent.  

Wikileaks showed the public enough to know there's corruption in the DNC / RNC,  but as long as the Republican guilty pleas and convictions keep adding up, and folks keep giving up their records to the probe, it's just a matter of time before the axe falls on this incompetent administration.  

But the list of Russian interactions, favors given, and that damning timeline, let alone money trail, it's only going to get worse for the Republicans...  see what true traitors they really are!  

(my first election was Carter vs Reagan, I voted 3rd party, as I did in this last election...  have a pretty good record of being anti-partisan) 

Is Trump promising Russian help in the upcoming elections to the Republican Party members? The only reason that I can think why we are leaving our system unprotected and open to more hacking and false propaganda

it also appears that Trump and Nunes are now starting their own propaganda campaign by releasing select testimony.

The media's and the Democratic Party's obsession (why is it an obsession? Senior administration officials have worked closely with the Russians. Trump invited former KGB members into the oval office and gleefully told them that he had gotten rid of Comey. It is not an obsession just normal every day reporting) with the Trump-Russia conspiracy theory originates from events of April-June 2016.  Media operations by the Democratic Party and its media echo chamber (can you give some examples of the DNC media echo chamber?) have distorted not only the information about the relevant events (can you give some examples of the distortion?), but even the background political picture of April 2016.

The DNC and Hillary constructed a conspiracy theory in which Putin ordered the hacking of the DNC network and subsequent mass distribution of the exfiltrated documents to help Trump beat Hillary. (This is completely wrong. The FBI and the our intelligence agency exposed this. It wasn’t constructed and it didn’t come from the DNC or Hillary)  Such actions were against Russian interests and very unusual for Russian intelligence. (How were they against Russian interests?)

Driven by their conspiracy theory, Hillary indulged in anti-Russian rhetoric, and the Obama administration drove relations with Russia to the worst point in the last 40 years. (I’m pretty sure that Hillary actually got dragged over the coals for trying to reset the relations with Russia with that dumbass easy button. Could you name some actual actions that the Obama admin took that drove relations to this point. Sanctions put in place for invading Crimea and shooting a passenger jet out of the sky don’t count)   Since the elections, the Democrats, the hard left, and the institutions owned by them (what institutions does the hard left own?) have been pushing Trump to aggravate the conflict, started by Obama and Hillary.  But let's proceed in chronological order.

• Summer 2015 – The FBI warns the DNC about alleged Russian hacking.

The DNC ignores the warning.

• April 28, 2016 – The DNC discovers suspicious activity on its network.

...and calls its lawyer, Marc Elias.  On May 6, after more than a week of waffling, the DNC brings in cyber-security contractor CrowdStrike, selected based on affinity rather than on merits.  CrowdStrike "determines" there were two breaches and names the culprits behind them – Cozy Bear and Fancy Bear – claimed by CrowdStrike to be Russian elite hacker units of FSB and GRU respectively. (All US intelligence agency also agree on this point)

The DNC refused to allow the FBI to access its computers, which it thought had been accessed by FSB and GRU.  Apparently, the FBI consented to be subordinate of FSB and GRU on this issue. 

• June 12, 2016 – Assange of WikiLeaks declares that he's got internal documents from the DNC.

...and is going to publish them.  Surprised, the DNC and Hillary's campaign decide to pre-empt and even exploit this publication. (How did the DNC and Hillary exploit and pre-empt this?)

• June 14, 2016 – The DNC announces the network breach through a WaPo article.

CrowdStrike publishes alleged technical details on its website.  Both blame the Russian government.  (Once again so do all US intelligence agencies) The DNC says that only a few documents had been compromised, including opposition research on Trump.  This is an open invitation for WikiLeaks to publish that research. (I don’t think Wikileaks needed an open invitation from anybody to publish)

• June 15, 2016 – Guccifer 2.0 claims the hack and posts several DNC documents on guccifer2.wordpress.com.

Guccifer 2.0 wasn't known before that.  The opposition research is among the published files.  Independent analysts discover Russian fingerprints – the opposition research file shows an error message in Russian and had been last saved on a computer with Windows in Russian by Феликс Эдмундович.  Феликс Эдмундович refers to Felix Edmundovich Dzerzhinsky (1877-1926), the founder of the Cheka, the predecessor to the KGB.  Gotcha!  The ecstatic media form the narrative: all leaked DNC-Hillary documents come from the Russian government; Guccifer 2.0 is a front for a Russian intelligence operation. (Once again not a DNC conspiracy ALL US INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES AGREE THAT RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT HACKED THE DNC FILES)

Just a few weeks or days earlier, the DNC hired Fusion GPS, which hired Christopher Steele to produce dirt on Trump. (The fact that Republicans hired Fusion first during the primaries is always conveniently left out of these narratives) The outcome was a series of absurd pieces, which became known as the "Steele dossier."  It was called "a garbage document" by Bob Woodward.  The only known version of it was published by BuzzFeed.  The first "Steele report," dated June 20, makes bizarre claims and leaves the impression that Steele was unclear about what the client wanted him to write. (Why were they absurd. Steel is a highly respected person with a long background in Russian intelligence. He was so disturbed by what he found he took it upon himself to contact the FBI.)

• July 16, 2016 – Guccifer 2.0 offers WikiLeaks about 1GB of leaked DNC documents.

Hillary, convinced that Guccifer 2.0 was a front for the Russian government, concludes that Putin had betrayed her. I t(This makes no sense. You argued earlier that she had driven relations with Putin to and all time low how could she now think that Putin was somehow on her side?)I think that at that time she decided to invent a narrative that she is tough on Russia while Trump is Putin's puppet. (Good to know that this theory rests on your ability to know what Hillary thinks)  It was the summer of 2016, and people didn't know that the MSM had shifted from being biased to being shameless fake news. (I love this one. Fake news first came up as an explanation of very real click bate sites started in eastern Europe that spread false news about Hillary. The people who put these sites together just wanted ad money. They tried to make fake news sites that appealed to the left but they just didn’t work. Conservatives however loved these theories and ate them up. These fake news sites were almost 100% pro Trump. Later Trump showing his genius for media manipulation branded all media that disagreed with him as Fake News) Hillary's plan worked.

• July 18, 2016 – Hillary/DNC launch Trump-Putin conspiracy theory through WaPo and N.Y. Mag. (A theory that all US intelligence services agree with)

WaPo publishes an article titled "Trump campaign guts GOP's anti-Russia stance on Ukraine" (Josh Rogin), and N.Y. Mag "Is Donald Trump Working for Russia?" (Jonathan Chait).  The N.Y. Mag piece is a purported analysis.  It mentions the WaPo article, but it couldn't have been written in a half-hour.  Thus, these articles were part of a media operation by Hillary and/or the DNC.  The WaPo article falsely claimed that Trump's campaign had weakened the GOP platform regarding support for Ukraine against a Russian invasion and briefly mentioned Paul Manafort. (Wow it is a fact that while Manafort was campaign chairman the Republican party platform was changed from helping and arming Ukraine in their war against Russia to not arming them. Hmmm I wonder why?)

I have to go back to work. I’ll eat crow in 6 weeks when the big reveal about Hillary happens.

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this statement confirms that guy is an asshole.

name calling, personal attacks, got it...brilliant discussion 

i believe that you believe that it is brilliant discussion, but in the next 4 or 5 days things will come to light that will change this whole blah blah blah...

El Niño, appreciate the civil discourse, I'll try to make time for a point by point response later, one of the general things I think I'm reading from your post is, to paraphrase "the entire intelligence community says x, y or z", that's the whole point of what is/was happening is elements within our intelligence community who were Obama/Clinton loyalists were basically weaponizing their agencies against their political adversaries, so yes, of course, they came out in support of the narrative.