The Elite class have taken over the GD scene
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Hippies and poor simple people best watch and hear from outside is the way I understand it in 2021 and the future of shows.
Poor real fans need not apply!
The band needs the money kids!
Or their kids????
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the Money Kids would be cool
the Money Kids would be cool band name.
everything else is cloud-yelling
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John Mayer leads the
John Mayer leads the "Grateful Dead" musical band now.
Separately, he was already one of the most in demand musicians in the world.
It seems the music no longer plays much part of the scene; which I agree has become mostly gentrified. $2000 furry nikes anybody?
The Grateful Dead are fashionable and mainstream now. For better or worse.
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Let's be honest, most hippies
Let's be honest, most hippies and Dead Heads came from White, middle and upper middle class backgrounds. Is it really that big a deal that they are still White and middle/upper middle class?
There were plenty of $50 and less tix available this entire Tour. You're just pissed that you couldn't afford Red Rocks. Wanting to fly 2,000 miles for a concert, but being shut out of a ticket, is really a first world problem.
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Many reasons for the high
Many reasons for the high prices.
No income from recordings, covid, aging out.
Looking forward to Quintet stream but DCo and the Jerry merch pimping is just...
Said goodbye at Fare Thee Well, even if goodbye is too good a word, babe.
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You be hittin it today doc.
You be hittin it today doc.
Back in the day folks would be showing up to dead shows in beat up vehicles some with fenders falling off full of rust that many times I would jump out of mine to help to push them to the parking lots or off the highway cuz they ran out of gas,,, then give them rides the rest of the way to the show. A few times I would donate my spare gallons of radiator water to them as my pos car hadn't overheated yet. Don't see much of that anymore,, I miss it.
Today mutherfuckers show up in their brand new suv's or beemers with all the bells and whistles. Makes me sad in a way.
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Somebody woke up with a
Somebody woke up with a severe case of Whiskey Dick.
Roll with the changes.
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Who's not rolling with it
Who's not rolling with it Dave ?
Ya can't stop people from observing and commenting on the obvious changes.
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Almost all their shows have
Almost all their shows have tickets available at reasonable prices.
The Red Rocks shows are a special, smaller deal. Naturally demand & prices are going to reflect that.
People bitched in 1982 when the GD charged $25 for two shows at the Warfield.
Same as it ever was.
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https://www.reynspooner.com
https://www.reynspooner.com/collections/grateful-dead
like the blue version, kinda...
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I shall reiterate again. I
I shall reiterate again. I waited online for 45 minutes and was offered tickets over twice of what they cost. HOW THE FUCK DOES THAT HAPPEN ONLY 45 MINUTES AFTER THEY WENT ONSALE????
Some serious corruption going on. And thr band stays silent about it!
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its called freedom and the
its called freedom and the free market. you know free for corporations, not free for you.
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^ It's called scalpers who
^ It's called scalpers who are not fans buying up all the tickets and gouging the real fans. Or maybe Steve Parish is making a bundle.
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If you've passed through an
If you've passed through an airport on your way to a rock concert, you just might be elite.
Well, two airports, I guess. One? Probably a good story there.
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so you are a capitaist for
so you are a capitalist for some things and a socialist for tickets.
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It seems Doolittle hasn't had
It seems Doolittle hasn't had a ticket-buying experience in a while.....
Welcome to 2021.
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So true Local!
So true Local!
I haven't bought a popular ticket in ages. Does that mean it's Ok to gouge people who really want to see a band? Whatever happened to GDTS? Or Pearl Jams try at bucking the system. They folded and succumbed to it, it seems.
Whatever. It is what is is unfortunately.
Thank God for the good ol' days. Take heed future people.
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pjam is playing tonight down
pjam is playing tonight down the street for $138.50.
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I guess Eddie is hurting or
I guess Eddie is hurting or just had a divorce.
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The Grateful Dead are
The Grateful Dead are fashionable and mainstream now.<<<<<<<<<<
the Grateful Dead did not exist after 1995.
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Some people will say the GD
Some people will say the GD didn't exist after the Acid Tests or when Pig died or 1978 or when Brent died.....etc.
1995? It was long over by then IMO.
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any counterculture cred they
any counterculture cred they had left went out the door when they let tipper gore sit at that drum set
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all the cool kids are at
all the cool kids are at phish anyway
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The "GD Scene"?
The "GD Scene"?
You mean JRAD, the carriers of the torch?
Naw, still totally affordable, with miracles at the gate.
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I shall reiterate again. I
I shall reiterate again. I waited online for 45 minutes and was offered tickets over twice of what they cost. HOW THE FUCK DOES THAT HAPPEN ONLY 45 MINUTES AFTER THEY WENT ONSALE????<<<
I'm definitely with you in being upset about having to wait and then only seeing $199 (+ fees) tickets available, but I believe these were for face in a lower reserved section (and not aftermarket). If all the cheaper seats were snatched first, then wouldn't it be counter to your argument about the so-called "class" of fans actually being more "common"?
Nonetheless, the argument can be made that the band had acquiesced to the apparent market demand for more "elite" pricing by formulating such a price structure in the first place.
But yeah, the whole wait for 45 minutes to learn this information took up my time - which is valuable to me. So, the argument could be made that the "scene" has been taken over by a baked in deference to capitalism / elitism that doesn't respect "our time" in a communal sense.
Having said all of that, I've gotten in two Wolf Bros shows and three for Cheese at Red Rocks ... so I'm OK with just going to Fidder's for half the price and to feel better about roaming to the periphery to feel more comfortable about exposure to covid (vs. feeling the need to stick it out in my $250 seat at RR to get my nickel's worth).
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Pollstar numbers Pollstar:
Pollstar: Boxoffice Insider: Dead & Company Have Strong Showing In Early Results.
https://www.pollstar.com/article/boxoffice-insider-dead-company-have-str... 2
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The middle class must
The middle class must appropriate the working class.
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FOMars the tickets that they
FOMars the tickets that they offered me were over $200 in the last rows which were on sale for $99 45 minutes prior. Up close seats were much more and up to over $1,000. I think $1,500
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The non dead suck
The non dead suck
desperation move me darkly
to each their own
I happen to have custied up for the Q at face and I'm OK with that
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Bots and scalpers and take it
Bots and scalpers and take it (ticket) agencies and bands all own most of thi$$$$
Yes there are production expenses and lots of support people that have to make a living
Capitalism is not egalitarian
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Western Australia is doing
Western Australia is doing something about scalping with this recent legislation.... Have always wondered if it's the ticket companies themselves who run all the ticket bots... and I've seen ticket bot software for sale online for a few thousand dollars that are written for each ticket seller's website!
https://www.mediastatements.wa.gov.au/Pages/McGowan/2021/09/Just-the-tic...
Just the ticket - tough new laws to stamp out scalping
8/09/2021 3:55 PM
Ticket scalping to be illegal in WA after passing of legislation in Parliament
New rules for on-selling of event tickets will limit profit to 10 per cent Heavy penalties for those who break the law Legislation in place in time for WA to host the AFL Grand Final Ticket scalping will be illegal in Western Australia after legislation introduced by the McGowan Government passed State Parliament, delivering on an election commitment.
The tough new measures will be in place before general admission tickets go on sale for the 2021 AFL Grand Final at Optus Stadium to protect footy fans from price gouging and level the playing field by banning mass purchases by 'bots'.
Re-selling of concert and event tickets will be allowed but restricted to a maximum 10 per cent mark-up from the original price. The use of software designed to by-pass security measures to prevent bulk purchases will also be outlawed. Heavy penalties will apply for those who break the law with fines of $20,000 for individuals and $100,000 for companies.
Even higher penalties will apply for those using 'bots' to purchase tickets. The new laws, which passed Parliament on Tuesday, still provide an opportunity for people to on-sell their unwanted tickets, but remove the incentive for those who seek to profit from the large-scale purchase and re-selling of tickets to popular concerts and events. The Commissioner for Consumer Protection will be given the power to enforce the anti-ticket scalping measures.
Consumers are advised to only purchase tickets from authorised sellers and avoid using third party re-sellers, especially if they are based overseas. Often re-sellers pay to be on top of internet search results, so the advice is to look beyond them when searching online. Using third party re-sellers could result in the ticket being rejected at the venue and disappointed consumers being denied entry. Re-sellers often refuse to provide refunds where there is a change of date. Scammers also use these platforms to sell fake tickets.
Comments attributed to Commerce Minister Amber-Jade Sanderson: "Ticket scalpers will no longer be able to rip off Western Australian consumers online thanks to the McGowan Government's tough new laws. "The measures target the 'secondary market' in ticket sales that has grown over the years and support and strengthen the measures being adopted by venues and authorised ticket sellers to stop the impact of the unscrupulous behaviour of online scalpers. "Genuine buyers will be given a greater opportunity to secure a ticket at or near original prices to see their favourite performer or attend a major sporting event, such as the 2021 AFL Grand Final. "Delivering on an election promise, the laws also ensure greater transparency with re-sellers required to identify the location of the seat or viewing spot for each ticket."
Comments attributed to Sport and Recreation Minister Tony Buti: "The Bill passing with immediate effect is fantastic news on the eve of Western Australia's first-ever AFL Grand Final. "The new legislation ensures a fans-first approach for all events held in WA, preventing price gouging and banning software bots used to purchase large quantities of tickets. "The State Government, through VenuesWest, is a prolific host of major sporting and entertainment events and we are thrilled this law will maximise opportunities for fans to access these through reasonably priced tickets. "To anyone thinking of using bots to buy tickets to the AFL Grand Final, or price gouging through resales - think again or risk a penalty up to $500,000."
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I know some poster artists
That is fantastic lolo
In a way they are all like drug dealers Greedy
I know some poster artists that could use protection / more fair systems also....
The bots buy the posters and in 10 minutes Sarah for sale on eBay for 4 to 10 times the price
It's not just supply and demand is excessive greed what did they say how is fair in love and war and I guess in selling tickets also
f em all
Miracle somebody
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That reminds me, I recorded
That reminds me, I recorded the AFL grand final.