You know that reinstatement of a former president isn't actually a thing, right?
what I don't understand is the GOP wants tighter regulation of elections because it's a constitutional right but doesn't want tighter regulation of firearms because it's a constitutional right
A democracy should facilitate more people being able to vote, not fewer. All this voter suppression bullshit is anti-democracy, no ifs, ands or buts.
Rand Paul was 100% correct when he said that no Republikkkan should ever want to do away with the Electoral College. In today's USA, no Republican could ever win the popular vote for presidency. Their ability to win State races is also waning. All they have left is voter suppression.
Since the bluegrass festival in Telluride this year is only 2,500 people, it's classified as a "minor festival"; entailing that the public can now walk up to the point where they check your tickets without any credentials. The sound is great and a bunch of people are hanging around last evening for Jerry Douglas' set. So, I'm talking to a local when another local walks up and says hello to me, but kind of proceeds to be very confrontational to the person I was speaking to in an oblique fashion that I found odd. I'm unaware if they had any "history", but appeared they didn't. Second local kind of goes after the first's economic position (being somewhat well off), then mutters how things are going to change and the "end times" are upon us and that communists and socialists are trying to take over the country. The first guy just wanted the conversation to end at that point, but I was like "end times?" and he went on for a little bit with the same crap about the election being stolen. We argued a bit for a couple minutes while the first guy looked on. Eventually, second guy walks off and me and first guy are just staring at one another with our mouths open while second guy keeps peering back at us - looking to see if we're talking about him ... which at that point we were and I was keeping an eye on him too. Me and first guy then compared notes to say how we were both extremely freaked out about this encounter and found it to be scary. You could cut the tension with a knife. I mean, all three of us are freaks in our own way, but there was something menacing about second guy's version of it last evening. I told him how it reminded me of Erik Larson's book "In the Garden of Beasts", but just a different flavor of a pre-war "psychosis". While I've never been full on friends with the second guy, we've always been friendly at shows and functions around town, so it was definitely a troubling encounter. There's another long-time local who comes to mind who fits a similiar bill that I've found myself talking to his other friends about .... where we all agree he's gone off the deep end these past couple few years.
But going back to second local guy: the look he got in his eyes when he talked about "how things are going to change soon" was palpably disconnected from reality, yet at the same time he was clearly anxiously anticipating that something was brewing and ready to act when the "time came". It really hit home, because I've never thought of this person as being adversarial to my world in any way, shape, or form.
>>Rand Paul was 100% correct when he said that no Republikkkan should ever want to do away with the Electoral College. In today's USA, no Republican could ever win the popular vote for presidency.<<
I would not exactly say that "no Republican 'COULD' ever win the popular vote for presidency" but modern history does show a fairly steady decline to that end. Please do keep in mind that ConDon could have won by merely getting approximately 48,000 more votes across 3 states due to long-out-dated Electoral College B.S. That is complete nonsense when compared to the nearly 7M votes that Biden had over him.
FOM, I'm hearing more and more stories like the one you recounted, and they're making me think that we're moving through a time that shares some similarities with the Great Awakening in the Colonies in the mid-18th century. The old ways are slipping away, or being done away with in a hurry in some cases, and people are freaking the fuck out about it. I almost wish I could be so easily seduced and deluded at times, but then I snap out of it, and feel grateful for being able to see reality pretty much as it is, and not as I would have it.
And by the way, I found your somewhat complex story to be easy to follow with your references to the first guy and the second guy. A paragraph break or two would have been helpful, I like a nano-breather every once in a while, but the whole thing tracked quite clearly, I thought.
>>would not exactly say that "no Republican 'COULD' ever win the popular vote for presidency"
I do believe that his point was that all of the recent Republican presidents list the popular vote, and with demographic trends as they are, it isn't going to get better for them. The EC really only benefits them, at least at this point in history.
Ugh. Pedagogical jargon. I use a grading rubric that's based on student learning objectives, so standards are established at the start of the semester, and individual performative progress can be observed from assignment to assignment, so I suppose that's a proficiency-based system.
FOM, I'm hearing more and more stories like the one you recounted, and they're making me think that we're moving through a time that shares some similarities with the Great Awakening in the Colonies in the mid-18th century. The old ways are slipping away, or being done away with in a hurry in some cases, and people are freaking the fuck out about it. I almost wish I could be so easily seduced and deluded at times, but then I snap out of it, and feel grateful for being able to see reality pretty much as it is, and not as I would have it.<<<<
There are likely some similarities with the period just before the "second civil war" around 1860 too. Our system is clearly dysfunctional and in dire need of an overhaul to put the train back on the rails, but it should be based on facts and reason vs. disinformation that can easily proven as such.
This was the first time I've actually gotten into with someone in person other than my aunt and uncle. As much as I like to debate online, I'm probably one of the least confrontational people you'll meet in person and mostly seek harmony in real life. So, it was a rude awakening. The weird thing is that the "second guy" is also this way, but on this occasion, he was clearly of a divided mind: part of him was "working himself up into a lather", but at the same time, the other side of him was cutting the first part of himself off. He went through this cycle 2-3 times until he took off. There was also a weird sort of echo chamber "code speak" hesitation that was simultaneously at work ... in that he was kind of waiting to see if I was on his side before fully engaging.
And by the way, I found your somewhat complex story to be easy to follow with your references to the first guy and the second guy. A paragraph break or two would have been helpful, I like a nano-breather every once in a while, but the whole thing tracked quite clearly, I thought.<<<
Yeah, lol ... it could've easily been broken up into three paragraphs, but was a little out it this morning.
I agree Brian but am only saying that it "could" change or tilt in their favor at some point but not soon and for good reason at that. I recently looked at the data and dont recall exactly what it was but I think only 1 sucessful Repubilcan candidate for President in modern history (50 years) had the popular vote in their court.
Jazz...much love and respect, seriously, I'm impressed with you as a human being, which makes it all the more fascinating that you "believe" the election was legitimate, please expand upon that narrative, thank you.
I'm guessing Bryen would need a few weeks of consistently good behavior before they'd let him have a staff-escorted day pass off the premises to buy lottery tickets.
He has been promising irrefutable bombshells for years now. Oddly enough, I don't think he has ever had one actually occur. More like one of those lil paper twisted party snap poppers.
Hey, Bryen I truly care for you too. Specially mental well being , ya know all the things changing so fast in this country and world. Two things in life that are constant are change and death.
Any way thisis an image of my white full-blooded Boxer dog.
He is not paranoid in this image as it may appear. I drilled a whole in the gate so he can see the world. It's probably like watching TV to him. I would contemplate it's his version of News of the world.
This is the dog food we feed my best pal. I read snippets here and there on the W.W.W. about dog food manufacturers experimenting and manipulating dog food chemicals to fuck with the DNA of certain breeds.
Although I have noticed minute strands of white hair on my pal getting a sort of gold color in certain natural lighting conditions and some hairs growing longer.
I do not think my Boxer dog, Charlie, will magically change to Golden Retriever.
my love for each and every one of you is without condition, I treasure the opportunity to have a respectful exchange of thoughts and ideas on a platform largely of Phil Lesh aficionados, in theory that may bode well for advancing said thoughts and ideas, I believe we can all agree I've tried to achieve civility, once in a while you're the only person in the room that's correct, but that doesn't make you any less correct...I do treasure our interaction.
I'll say this, we are fast approaching a constitutional crisis.
Fasten your seatbelt, we are on the cusp of an historical event on the timeline of western civilization...certainly on the timeline of the 245 years of the republic, and nothing that will either be spoken or not spoken on this message board will impact that one way or the other. Those that place the blame at the people saying the sky is blue and water is wet are misplacing their anger, the blame should and will be placed at the feet of the thieves.
This is happening, as a metric, watch CNN any of the 24 hours, they are at DEFCON 5 panic mode...if that doesn't register with you perhaps I'm wasting my time.
I truly believe we're a significant community...in some ways the Grateful Dead Community represents the apex of western civilization, you could make the argument that the psychedelic community represents the best and brightest...our ability to converse about any and all subject matter respectfully may someday be relevant to the survival of civilization itself.
What would notes be without rests?
That we live in a republic that produced the US Open golf tournament is a testament to civility, I'll try to achieve an echelon of respect and politeness with each of you.
That being said...this is happening, get used to the word decertification, and observe a moment in history. There's a school of thought that it [the 245 year fragility of the republic] had to be attacked and bludgeoned to this extreme to be stronger having survived it, as if it were happening in accordance to divine providence.
I love every one of you and treasure our discussions.
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What odluw etson eb witthou resst?
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There were other thoughts I had today...what an amazing time to be alive with golf in high definition!!!!!
I was talking to one of my great friends of all time a week ago this morning about golf being the most beautiful sport ever conceived, seemingly through divine intervention, a communion of mankind and the almighty, as far as presumably, at an indigenous level, there must have been an individual in the Scottish Highlands with a stick and a round stone and a hole in the ground, and gradually it became the cornerstone of civilization, 500 year old pubs were established around the old courses to facilitate the discussions of the gradual curvature of the earth and a putt breaking either slightly left or right.
What a blessing the game has been to the development of humanity.
I'm a firm believer that things often happen for a reason...if I live to be a hundred years old I'll always remember Turtle and the lessons he taught me, I'll always remember the feeling of being at the mercy of the scum of the earth, and what that felt like...and that I was meant to feel this vulnerability from the scum of the earth and how he worked his leverage, it's a lesson I'll always remember, and for that I'm grateful.
got just the place for low-cost housing, I have solved this problem, I know where we can build housing for the homeless: GOLF COURSES!!! Perfect! Golf courses! Just what we need! Just what we need: plenty of good land in nice neighbourhoods, land that is currently being wasted on a meaningless, mindless activity, engaged in primarily by white, well-to-do, male businessmen who use the game to get together to make deals to carve this country up a little finer among themselves. I am getting tired… really… getting… tired of these golfing cocksuckers in their green pants, and their yellow pants, and their orange pants, and their precious little hats, and their cute little golf carts! It is time to reclaim the golf courses from the wealthy and turn them over to the homeless. Golf is an arrogant, elitist game and it takes up entirely too much room in this country. It is an arrogant game on its very design alone. Just the design of the game SPEAKS of arrogance! Think of how big a golf course is… THE BALL IS THAT FUCKING BIG!!! WHAT DO THESE PIN-HEADED PRICKS NEED WITH ALL THAT LAND?!!! There are over 17,000 golf courses in America, they average over 150 acres apiece, that’s 3 million plus acres, 4,820 square miles… you could build two Rhode Island’s and a Delaware for the homeless on the land currently being wasted on this meaningless, mindless, arrogant, elitist, racist – there’s another thing; the only blacks you’ll find in country clubs are carrying trays – and a boring game… boring game for boring people. You ever watch golf on television? It’s like watching flies fuck! And-and a mindless game, mindless, think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick… and then… walking after it… and then… HITTING IT AGAIN!!! I SAY PICK IT UP ASSHOLE!!! YOU’RE LUCKY YOU FOUND THE FUCKING THING!!! PUT IT IN YOUR POCKET AND GO THE FUCK HOME!!! YOU’RE A WINNER!!! YOU’RE A WINNER!!! YOU FOUND IT!!! No… never happens… no… no chance of that happening; Dorko in the plaid knickers is going to hit it again and walk some more. Let these rich cocksuckers play miniature golf. Let ‘em fuck with a windmill for an hour and a half or so… see if there’s really any skill among these people. Now I know there are some people who play golf who don’t consider themselves rich… FUCK ‘EM!!! And shame on them for engaging in an arrogant, elitist pastime.
Hey! Here’s another place we can put some low-cost housing: CEMETARIES!!! There’s another idea whose time has passed! Saving all the dead people up for one part of town?! What the hell kind of a medieval, superstitious, religious, bullshit idea is that?! Plough these motherfuckers up, plough into the streams and rivers of America; we need that phosphorous for farming! If we’re going to recycle, LET’S GET SERIOUS!!!-George Carlin
I have a pretty cool golf story, we checked in to the Alpine Valley Resort the morning before the "Family Reunion" shows [I think that's what the shows were called] anyways the golf course was directly behind the stage, and me and my buddy are playing the entire round of golf the day before the first gig with Phil sound checking the bass for what seemed like several hours, Phil's bass bouncing of the mountains backstage, it was a true moment in time.
Played tennis later that afternoon with another buddy of mine who's no longer with us.
That was a great weekend, Owsley was in attendance.
I remember a large rainbow over the stage, it was a beautiful weekend.
...George Carlin probably didn't have his golf game together when he went on that rant, I'm sure he was intelligent enough to realize it's the most beautiful game ever imagined, he knew that you knew that he knew that you knew he was obviously saying these things in jest.
One thing I've been observing in the last few days, and of course it's a fluid situation, is the "pivot" towards the concept of [paraphrasing] "Even if it was stolen there's no path towards reinstatement, so blah blah blah". This is both incorrect and pathetically revealing, we are entering uncharted territory, and yes it's a constitutional crisis, but we'll methodically put one foot in front of the other and move forward as a republic...but to claim [rather pathetically] that there's no remedy so therefore an illegitimate presidency must continue is the height of absurdity, this is a true house of cards that may collapse much quicker than you can possibly imagine, think of today as compared with one week ago, it's fascinating to observe the collapse of the false narrative in real-time...we are witnessing an historical event.
"Newsweek reported earlier that We The Media, a group of QAnon advocates with more than 225,000 subscribers on its Telegram account, believes that Biden swatting at the cicadas is actually "comms."
"JOE BIDEN BITTEN BY A CICADA - COMMS? Just so happens that Cicada nymphs emerge after a 17-year childhood underground!!!" We The Media wrote.
The "underground" comment is a reference to the baseless QAnon belief that a network of secret underground tunnels exists and children are being trafficked and abused by satanic pedophiles."
I am up to speed. All that shit was settled back in January. A bunch of numbnuts complaining about it and saying, "I think I can," doesn't constitute an "event."
I don't watch television but just clicked on cnn website out of curiosity of what this was all about and had to scroll almost all the way down the page to find anything related to what Bry is talking about. The story headline is "Growing list of Arizona republicans have had enough amid "audit." That's all I could find
All this is just another analogy similar to the much respected zoner, Face on Mars' past experience at the Telluride thing<<<
thanks jaz, didn't see this reference earlier ... but did catch the canine analogies and liked them too!
Now that I start to think about it more, I wonder if dogs could sense the truth about the situation with Trump and his "followers" in a round about way. I believe Brian Wilson's mother was on to something about sensing "vibrations" ... and suspect an experiment could be setup akin to dogs that are trained to sniff out covid, but instead figure out who's a pathalogical liar. Then again, it's possible there are very few liars at work, but rather far more people who believe lies. Then again and again, maybe dogs can be trained to detect the vibrations of those who are fully invested in lies.
While Biden's dog, Champ, deserves MUCH more than Bryen does in terms of a response or attention here, I am wondering why, if he was such an "innie" in the GD scene, he seems to feel too cool for the golf spot or reservation at the Alpine Valley resort? Anybody's anybody could have simply made a reservation and stayed or golfed accordingly. Plus, it's no secret that Phil loved the place and totally got off on having his bass bombs rumble up the hill there too. What gives, fool/tool? By the way, despite his foolish beliefs, there will be no giant revelation or change coming this year - or any other for that mtter - for his boy, ConDon, other than an increasingly tangled legal-financial mess that will be cool to watch unfold. Latorz.
There's a school of thought that it [the 245 year fragility of the republic] had to be attacked and bludgeoned to this extreme to be stronger having survived it, as if it were happening in accordance to divine providence.<<<
What school?
So the coup attempt was necessary to save democracy according to Heaven.
<< the coup attempt was necessary to save democracy according to Heaven.
Fucking Coocoo Comic Brilliance ! Wish I thought of it. You'd fit right in on one'a them crack pot conspiracy theory websites. Hey now bry where are they, and how do we sign up ?
The completely legal and Constitutional impeachment hearings were a coup attempt, and the violent, armed and deadly takeover attempt of the Capitol was free speech and the pinnacle of democracy?
After several Fulton County, Ga., poll monitors testified last year that boxes of mail-in ballots for Joe Biden looked liked they’d been run through a photocopy machine, state investigators quietly broke the seal on one suspicious box and inspected the hundreds of votes it contained for signs of fraud, RealClearInvestigations has learned exclusively
At the same time, a key whistleblower told RCI that state investigators pressured her to recant her story about what she and other poll monitors had observed -- what they called unusually “pristine” mail-in ballots while sorting through them during last November’s hand recount.
“I felt I was under investigation,” said Suzi Voyles, a longtime Fulton County poll manager whose sworn affidavits have been used by election watchdogs to sue the county for access to the ballots in question.
Although the ballots are at the center of disputes about the Georgia presidential race, which Joe Biden won by just 12,000 votes, the state never disclosed its probe to the public or to election watchdogs suing to inspect the ballots.
State officials also neglected to inform the judge hearing the lawsuit that they were conducting such an inspection, even though the judge had issued a protective order over the ballots in January. In a nine-page amicus brief recently filed in the case, attorneys for the office of Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger urged Superior Court Judge Brian Amero to deny petitioners’ requests to inspect the ballots, calling them a “fishing expedition.”
Frances Watson, chief investigator for the secretary of state’s office, confirmed in a statement to RCI that she sent investigators to Fulton County earlier this year to inspect the batches of sealed ballots. Poll monitors involved in last November’s hand recount had described the mail-in ballots in sworn affidavits as devoid of creases and folds and featuring identically bubbled-in marks for Biden. But the state said it could not find any ballots matching that description.
“Our investigators looked into it and didn’t find anything,” she said, while adding the investigation is “still ongoing.”
The watchdogs question why state officials did not disclose their activities to the court and fear they may have “tampered” with the sealed ballots, which are at the center of their lawsuit seeking access to all 147,000 absentee ballots cast during the 2020 election in Fulton County, which includes much of Atlanta.
Led by longtime Georgia poll watcher Garland Favorito, founder of VoterGA.org, the court petitioners say the state has failed to inform the judge overseeing their case that they broke the chain of custody over the pallets of shrink-wrapped absentee ballots warehoused in a locked county facility in Atlanta.
“If the secretary of state’s office did that, they tampered with the ballots and violated Georgia state law,” which restricts the handling of ballots to authorized elections officials involved in the tabulation and care of the ballots, Favorito said. He also noted that Judge Amero had placed the ballots under a protective order in January. “They would have had to ask for a court order to unseal and inspect those ballots and they never did that.”
Raffensperger’s office seemed to acknowledge the ballots were still under seal when it urged Amero to prevent the watchdogs from inspecting the ballots.
“The security and confidentiality of ballots is to be strictly maintained,” attorneys for Raffensperger argued in the brief they filed with Amero in April, “and the court should be cautious in granting petitioners’ access to ballots that Georgia law requires to remain under seal, which makes it a felony as soon as petitioners were to lay hands on them.”
Raffensperger’s office did not respond to questions about why it did not inform the court about its probe, although it acknowledged that this is the first time its inspection of the ballots – which began in early January – has been publicly disclosed. Judge Amero did not respond to requests for comment.
Biden narrowly won Georgia thanks to a late-night tally of absentee ballots in Fulton and other Democratic strongholds. The revelation that state authorities have already unsealed and investigated the ballots in question is a new twist in a case that has seen the firing of poll managers who blew the whistle on the suspicious ballots; a recent breach of security at the warehouse that Fulton County officials were supposed to be guarding around the clock; and an 11th-hour attempt by county officials to dismiss the court-ordered inspection of those ballots – many of which came from Atlanta area drop boxes whose chain of custody documentation has mysteriously turned up missing.
Last month Amero ordered Fulton County to unseal its 147,000 absentee ballots and allow the petitioners to inspect them under certain restrictions, but the county filed a motion to dismiss the case. Amero is expected to rule on the motion later this month.
The issue is further muddied by Suzi Voyles’ allegation, never previously reported, that she was pressured to recant her testimony about the pristine ballots. In sworn affidavits last November, Suzi Voyles said she observed that a large batch of mail-in ballots for Biden did not appear to have been folded or handled like she would have expected from her two decades of working elections in the county. She also said that the marks for Biden were identical, as though they had been filled in by a copying machine rather than a pen or pencil.
In a Jan. 7 interview, which took place at a secretary of state’s office in Atlanta, Voyles told RCI that an investigator identifying himself as Paul Braun “grilled me for over two hours” about her testimony. She said he was joined by another official whom she said was from the Georgia Bureau of Investigation. She added that the investigators did not have a copy of her affidavit and did not know the box number and batch numbers of the ballots in question.
“I smelled a rat when they didn’t know the batch numbers when they were clearly denoted in my affidavit,” Voyles said.
She added the investigators “gave no indication" they had gone to the warehouse to find the suspicious ballots or were conducting any kind of forensic investigation. Voyles said the investigators kept trying to convince her she might have been mistaken about her observations.
“I did not recant,” she asserted. “The ballots that I saw had been pre-printed. It’s a very serious thing in my opinion. That’s what I swore to under penalty of perjury. Recanting would be perjuring myself.”
Watson told RCI that Voyles “stated that she may have been mistaken about the batch number and provided a different batch number."
“I never said that,” Voyles insisted.
"The second batch number provided by Ms. Voyles did not exist,” Watson added.
Voyles contended she never provided any other batch numbers. Watson also revealed that “investigators went to Fulton County and reviewed the batches identified by Ms. Voyles, but found no ballots that looked as Ms. Voyles described.” Favorito said his group’s attorney plans to file a motion to depose Watson and Braun to understand exactly what investigators have done regarding the boxes of absentee ballots in question.
Favorito said he does not doubt Voyles’
testimony and said the ballot images his group has reviewed support her account of anomalies.
“At no time has Susan Voyles claimed she was mistaken,” Favorito said. “She has consistently stood by her affidavit since she submitted it almost seven months ago.”
Asked if Voyles is under criminal investigation, Georgia Secretary of State Communications Director Ari Schaffer said, “I have no reason to believe she’s under investigation for perjury.” Last December, Raffensperger “condemned” the unexplained firing of Voyles by Fulton County elections officials and called on them to rehire her.
As RCI previously reported, Voyles is one of four Fulton County poll monitors who signed affidavits swearing they observed the same pattern of irregularities in stacks of mail-in ballots for Biden. All of them suggested the ballots had been photocopied.
Favorito, who did not vote for Trump, said the state has also tried to interview one other witness – poll monitor Robin Hall – and said he himself is under investigation. He suggested state investigators are trying to intimidate witnesses into backing off their testimony, and are more interested in investigating whistleblowers than finding evidence of ballot fraud.
Schaffer said he was unsure whether the other affiants have been interviewed. “I’ll have to check on the other three” witnesses, he said.
Favorito added that the discovery of hard evidence of fraud in Georgia’s largest county would be embarrassing for Raffensperger, who is running for reelection with little support from the Georgia GOP, which recently censured him for creating “opportunities for fraud” by agreeing to the relaxation of voting rules during the 2020 election.
“He is worried that we will uncover serious wrongdoing on the part of the secretary of state, not just Fulton County,” Favorito said.
Voyles pointed out that Raffensperger has been too quick to declare the 2020 Georgia election free of fraud. Most recently, he was blindsided by revelations that Fulton County election officials had “misplaced” the required chain-of-custody forms documenting the collection of almost 20,000 mail-in ballots from 36 largely unsupervised drop-off boxes Raffensperger agreed to let Democrat-controlled Fulton County distribute across the Atlanta area ahead of the Nov. 3 presidential election.
“New revelations that Fulton County is unable to produce all ballot drop-box transfer documents will be investigated thoroughly,” Raffensperger tweeted June 14, adding that Fulton officials failed to follow state rules regarding the boxes. “This cannot continue.”
Voyles said Raffensperger’s office is increasingly concerned about its pre-election decision to mollify demands by Democratic voter-rights group to make it easier to vote by absentee ballot.
“They are investigating us to divert attention from their consent agreement with [Democratic activist] Stacey Abrams,” she said.
“We never should have had any drop boxes. We wouldn’t have had chain-of-custody problems and the other problems with absentee ballots if they hadn’t put in those drop boxes,” Voyles added. "It was negligence.”
Here's the problem: all the wrong people voted for the wrong candidate, so he won. The wrong people are now conducting the audits, which is why they aren't discounting the wrong votes of the wrong people.
If only the right people were doing the audits. Then they'd discount all those wrong votes and make Trump president again..
There actually was some kunckle-dragging GA-(R) politician whom recently defended gerry-mandering and voter suppression by stating, "We dont need or want the wrong people voting."
NEW YORK (Reuters) -Rudy Giuliani's law license in New York state was suspended on Thursday, as a state appeals court found he had lied in arguing that the 2020 presidential election was stolen from his client, former U.S. President Donald Trump.
Giuliani, 77, a former U.S. Attorney in Manhattan and New York City mayor, was sanctioned for making unsubstantiated claims in court, testimony before lawmakers, press conferences and other media appearances about electoral fraud.
The five-justice Appellate Division in Manhattan found "uncontroverted" evidence that Giuliani made "demonstrably false and misleading statements to courts, lawmakers and the public" in trying to overturn the election, which Democrat Joe Biden won.
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You know that reinstatement
You know that reinstatement of a former president isn't actually a thing, right?
what I don't understand is the GOP wants tighter regulation of elections because it's a constitutional right but doesn't want tighter regulation of firearms because it's a constitutional right
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A democracy should facilitate
A democracy should facilitate more people being able to vote, not fewer. All this voter suppression bullshit is anti-democracy, no ifs, ands or buts.
Rand Paul was 100% correct when he said that no Republikkkan should ever want to do away with the Electoral College. In today's USA, no Republican could ever win the popular vote for presidency. Their ability to win State races is also waning. All they have left is voter suppression.
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I'll play, Bryen.
I'll play, Bryen.
Seems like you are finalizing your insatiable desire of lunacy to acceptance of truth.
Glad to have you on board the ship of truth and off the ship of fools.
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The pillow guy says they were
The pillow guy says they were "in on it". (Pence, too!)
In on what, is all I have to ask.
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It also appears by your post
It also appears by your post of this thread you agree your twice impeached ex- President should face charges of attempting to commit fraud.
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Since the bluegrass festival
Since the bluegrass festival in Telluride this year is only 2,500 people, it's classified as a "minor festival"; entailing that the public can now walk up to the point where they check your tickets without any credentials. The sound is great and a bunch of people are hanging around last evening for Jerry Douglas' set. So, I'm talking to a local when another local walks up and says hello to me, but kind of proceeds to be very confrontational to the person I was speaking to in an oblique fashion that I found odd. I'm unaware if they had any "history", but appeared they didn't. Second local kind of goes after the first's economic position (being somewhat well off), then mutters how things are going to change and the "end times" are upon us and that communists and socialists are trying to take over the country. The first guy just wanted the conversation to end at that point, but I was like "end times?" and he went on for a little bit with the same crap about the election being stolen. We argued a bit for a couple minutes while the first guy looked on. Eventually, second guy walks off and me and first guy are just staring at one another with our mouths open while second guy keeps peering back at us - looking to see if we're talking about him ... which at that point we were and I was keeping an eye on him too. Me and first guy then compared notes to say how we were both extremely freaked out about this encounter and found it to be scary. You could cut the tension with a knife. I mean, all three of us are freaks in our own way, but there was something menacing about second guy's version of it last evening. I told him how it reminded me of Erik Larson's book "In the Garden of Beasts", but just a different flavor of a pre-war "psychosis". While I've never been full on friends with the second guy, we've always been friendly at shows and functions around town, so it was definitely a troubling encounter. There's another long-time local who comes to mind who fits a similiar bill that I've found myself talking to his other friends about .... where we all agree he's gone off the deep end these past couple few years.
But going back to second local guy: the look he got in his eyes when he talked about "how things are going to change soon" was palpably disconnected from reality, yet at the same time he was clearly anxiously anticipating that something was brewing and ready to act when the "time came". It really hit home, because I've never thought of this person as being adversarial to my world in any way, shape, or form.
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Add #2 to your list.
Add #2 to your list.
Unindicted seditionist Mo Brooks told a GQP gathering this week if the "right" republicans are not elected in '22 and '24 we face a civil war.
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At Long Last, Donald Trump
At Long Last, Donald Trump Finally Admits: 'We Didn't Win':
https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/long-last-donald-trump-finally-004653164....
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>>Rand Paul was 100% correct
>>Rand Paul was 100% correct when he said that no Republikkkan should ever want to do away with the Electoral College. In today's USA, no Republican could ever win the popular vote for presidency.<<
I would not exactly say that "no Republican 'COULD' ever win the popular vote for presidency" but modern history does show a fairly steady decline to that end. Please do keep in mind that ConDon could have won by merely getting approximately 48,000 more votes across 3 states due to long-out-dated Electoral College B.S. That is complete nonsense when compared to the nearly 7M votes that Biden had over him.
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FOM, I'm hearing more and
FOM, I'm hearing more and more stories like the one you recounted, and they're making me think that we're moving through a time that shares some similarities with the Great Awakening in the Colonies in the mid-18th century. The old ways are slipping away, or being done away with in a hurry in some cases, and people are freaking the fuck out about it. I almost wish I could be so easily seduced and deluded at times, but then I snap out of it, and feel grateful for being able to see reality pretty much as it is, and not as I would have it.
And by the way, I found your somewhat complex story to be easy to follow with your references to the first guy and the second guy. A paragraph break or two would have been helpful, I like a nano-breather every once in a while, but the whole thing tracked quite clearly, I thought.
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Mike, do you score on a
Mike, do you score on a grading system or on a proficiency-based rubric?
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>>would not exactly say that
>>would not exactly say that "no Republican 'COULD' ever win the popular vote for presidency"
I do believe that his point was that all of the recent Republican presidents list the popular vote, and with demographic trends as they are, it isn't going to get better for them. The EC really only benefits them, at least at this point in history.
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Ugh. Pedagogical jargon. I
Ugh. Pedagogical jargon. I use a grading rubric that's based on student learning objectives, so standards are established at the start of the semester, and individual performative progress can be observed from assignment to assignment, so I suppose that's a proficiency-based system.
Now I'm curious why you ask, BK.
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FOM, I'm hearing more and
FOM, I'm hearing more and more stories like the one you recounted, and they're making me think that we're moving through a time that shares some similarities with the Great Awakening in the Colonies in the mid-18th century. The old ways are slipping away, or being done away with in a hurry in some cases, and people are freaking the fuck out about it. I almost wish I could be so easily seduced and deluded at times, but then I snap out of it, and feel grateful for being able to see reality pretty much as it is, and not as I would have it.<<<<
There are likely some similarities with the period just before the "second civil war" around 1860 too. Our system is clearly dysfunctional and in dire need of an overhaul to put the train back on the rails, but it should be based on facts and reason vs. disinformation that can easily proven as such.
This was the first time I've actually gotten into with someone in person other than my aunt and uncle. As much as I like to debate online, I'm probably one of the least confrontational people you'll meet in person and mostly seek harmony in real life. So, it was a rude awakening. The weird thing is that the "second guy" is also this way, but on this occasion, he was clearly of a divided mind: part of him was "working himself up into a lather", but at the same time, the other side of him was cutting the first part of himself off. He went through this cycle 2-3 times until he took off. There was also a weird sort of echo chamber "code speak" hesitation that was simultaneously at work ... in that he was kind of waiting to see if I was on his side before fully engaging.
And by the way, I found your somewhat complex story to be easy to follow with your references to the first guy and the second guy. A paragraph break or two would have been helpful, I like a nano-breather every once in a while, but the whole thing tracked quite clearly, I thought.<<<
Yeah, lol ... it could've easily been broken up into three paragraphs, but was a little out it this morning.
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>> Yeah, lol ... it could've
>> Yeah, lol ... it could've easily been broken up into three paragraphs, but was a little out it this morning. <<
Good to know.
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I agree Brian but am only
I agree Brian but am only saying that it "could" change or tilt in their favor at some point but not soon and for good reason at that. I recently looked at the data and dont recall exactly what it was but I think only 1 sucessful Repubilcan candidate for President in modern history (50 years) had the popular vote in their court.
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...I suppose this could also
...I suppose this could also go into the "Good News Only" thread.
Proud Boys Leader Enrique Tarrio Reportedly Selling Black Lives Matter T-Shirts To Get By
https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/proud-boys-leader-enrique-tarrio-03383513...
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https://www.arcamax.com
https://www.arcamax.com/politics/editorialcartoons/mikeluckovich/s-25308...
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>>Now I'm curious why you ask
>>Now I'm curious why you ask, BK.
lol, because I'm a dork, and your feedback to FOM read exactly as you explained your methodology to be.
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^
^
Here's some Bloom County (Calvin & Hobbs content)
https://www.facebook.com/berkeleybreathed
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Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our minds!
-Marcus Garvey
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Ethics is knowing the
Ethics is knowing the difference between what you have the right to do and what is right to do.
Potter Stewart
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Believe it or Not
Grateful Dead
March 22nd, 1990
Copps Coliseum
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
https://youtu.be/PYrdDVK4_9U
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https://www.google.com/amp/s
https://www.google.com/amp/s/scitechdaily.com/hubble-spots-a-galactic-po...
Out of this world, Bryen.
Rather insignificant stuff, eh.
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Jazz...much love and respect, seriously, I'm impressed with you as a human being, which makes it all the more fascinating that you "believe" the election was legitimate, please expand upon that narrative, thank you.
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No. That's all over.
No, sir. That's all over.
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Sure
Sure.
You quite literally have no idea what's about to happen as the truth surfaces.
Namaste
ॐ
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ef9DMLMDxmg&list=OLAK5uy_lxsQlvBnogfCwBluR...
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I'm going out on a limb here
I'm going out on a limb here with a personal question. If you choose not to answer I totally respect you for the non- answer or deflection.
Are you or have you ever taken Tai Chi lessons?
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Bryen, are you able to see
Bryen, are you able to accurately see the future? If so, drop politics and buy lottery tickets.
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In order to buy lottery
I'm guessing Bryen would need a few weeks of consistently good behavior before they'd let him have a staff-escorted day pass off the premises to buy lottery tickets.
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Just the euphoria from
Just the euphoria from sleeping on My Pillow Guy's pillows, turns out they're psycho activating.
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He has been promising
He has been promising irrefutable bombshells for years now. Oddly enough, I don't think he has ever had one actually occur. More like one of those lil paper twisted party snap poppers.
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Closed head injury?
Closed head injury?
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You quite literally have no
You quite literally have no idea what's about to happen as the truth surfaces.<<<<<
https://eriklarsonbooks.com/book/in-the-garden-of-beasts/?fbclid=IwAR3-Z...
MORE blood on your hands
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Hey, Bryen I truly care for
Hey, Bryen I truly care for you too. Specially mental well being , ya know all the things changing so fast in this country and world. Two things in life that are constant are change and death.
Any way thisis an image of my white full-blooded Boxer dog.
He is not paranoid in this image as it may appear. I drilled a whole in the gate so he can see the world. It's probably like watching TV to him. I would contemplate it's his version of News of the world.
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This is dog food we feed my
Although I have noticed minute strands of white hair on my pal getting a sort of gold color in certain natural lighting conditions and some hairs growing longer.
I do not think my Boxer dog, Charlie, will magically change to Golden Retriever.
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I don't think he will
I don't think he will eventually need a golden hair comb over and hair spray.
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please expand upon that
please expand upon that narrative, thank you<<<<
Here we are ,zoner friend.
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He really digs eating pink
He really digs eating pink colored rose flowers. Yet he is smart enough to not look at the world through rose colored glasses.
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Shit, Bro, even with a
Shit, Bro, even with a trampoline he knows limitations.
Check your package (dick and balls down nether way) then perhaps check the brain package up stairs.
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This thread has gone to the
This thread has gone to the dogs, and it's greatly improved as a result of that. Nice work, Jaz.
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All this is just another
All this is just another analogy similar to the much respected zoner, Face on Mars' past experience at the Telluride thing.
Thanks Mister E.
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Some extemporaneous thoughts...
my love for each and every one of you is without condition, I treasure the opportunity to have a respectful exchange of thoughts and ideas on a platform largely of Phil Lesh aficionados, in theory that may bode well for advancing said thoughts and ideas, I believe we can all agree I've tried to achieve civility, once in a while you're the only person in the room that's correct, but that doesn't make you any less correct...I do treasure our interaction.
I'll say this, we are fast approaching a constitutional crisis.
Fasten your seatbelt, we are on the cusp of an historical event on the timeline of western civilization...certainly on the timeline of the 245 years of the republic, and nothing that will either be spoken or not spoken on this message board will impact that one way or the other. Those that place the blame at the people saying the sky is blue and water is wet are misplacing their anger, the blame should and will be placed at the feet of the thieves.
This is happening, as a metric, watch CNN any of the 24 hours, they are at DEFCON 5 panic mode...if that doesn't register with you perhaps I'm wasting my time.
I truly believe we're a significant community...in some ways the Grateful Dead Community represents the apex of western civilization, you could make the argument that the psychedelic community represents the best and brightest...our ability to converse about any and all subject matter respectfully may someday be relevant to the survival of civilization itself.
What would notes be without rests?
That we live in a republic that produced the US Open golf tournament is a testament to civility, I'll try to achieve an echelon of respect and politeness with each of you.
That being said...this is happening, get used to the word decertification, and observe a moment in history. There's a school of thought that it [the 245 year fragility of the republic] had to be attacked and bludgeoned to this extreme to be stronger having survived it, as if it were happening in accordance to divine providence.
I love every one of you and treasure our discussions.
Peace be unto you.
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Lol. Where do you buy your
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Emos txnsereamoupeo hstthgou.
Emos txnsereamoupeo hstthgou...
ym leov for aehc dna ryeve one fo uoy is wotuiht nootniidc, I rtueeras the toruptipnoy ot avhe a prteeucsfl eghacexn of hthgoust and ideas no a plfartom gyralel fo Ilhp Hsle ifoasoicadn, ni eyohrt that may edob llew fro cdnaaigvn asid shguohtt and dseai, I evbieel ew cna lla eerga I'ev tedir to iacehev viiyitcl, ceon in a whlei oyu'er the ylno penors in the omor htta's rtreocc, btu ttah donse't ekam uyo any lses rtccroe...I do eesurart our tnnieciarto.
I'll say isht, ew are tfsa iappcgarhon a ttusonioancitl siscri.
Tsaefn uory salebtet, we rea no the psuc fo na hirsliocat eenvt no eht iieltmen fo wnreest iozitvicinal...tnrecaily on hte tlieenim of teh 245 yesar fo teh buicpelr, and tonihng that lliw rheeit be spkoen or tno psoekn on stih ssgeema rboda lwil impact ttha eno way or the htore. Htseo that caple the malbe ta eht ppleoe gasniy eht yks si lbue adn aertw is ewt aer aiminscplg ehrit eanrg, hte blaem uhlosd dna liwl eb dcpela at hte tfee of eht ihtevse.
Hsti is inhagppen, as a meticr, wacht Cnn any fo the 24 housr, ehyt ear ta Odecfn 5 ianpc doem...if that dosen't rsetergi htiw yuo hrpsepa I'm winastg ym tiem.
I lytru eleveib ew're a gciiinsaftn tcuiomynm...ni esom syaw the Lgrfaute Aedd Mitmyuonc rreptsnese teh xepa fo reesnwt ivziatiicoln, you lcodu meka the rnmgaetu atht hte phedcielscy nomiuycmt srnepertse the tbse dna tehgbrtsi...ruo liybait ot necrsvoe tuoba yna dna lla ujtcsbe etratm rtepucelsfyl may syaeomd be rtelevan ot hte vvriausl of ivoinatlizci lestfi.
What odluw etson eb witthou resst?
Thta we vlei in a uprlcibe atth cpreoddu the Su Enpo gflo nruanemott is a mntateest to iitylciv, I'll yrt to hevaice an nhcoeel of retpecs and stoeesnpil thiw ehac of ouy.
Thta ingeb idsa...hits si pnihepnag, get duse ot the rwod nrfoeeiitdaccti, and oebvers a nmteom in hoytsir. Rtehe's a sclhoo of uohtgth tath ti [hte 245 eayr fglirytai fo hte bpreluic] dah ot eb attacked adn lnbeeodgud to ihts eremxte to be osentrrg nigvah sduvriev it, sa if ti reew pnpnaheig ni cancecorda wtih a enviid prvoiecdne.
I vloe eveyr one fo oyu nda trreesua our usiscsdisno.
Ecpea eb uont yuo.
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"Where do you buy your clown shoes, dude?"
Spain
https://youtu.be/iy6wryJMwVU
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Hwree od you yub ruoy nwolc shoes, dued?
Anpis
tptsh://ouytu.be/yi6yvmwuwrj
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I'll say this, we are fast
I'll say this, we are fast approaching a constitutional crisis<<<
says the bully who keeps saying "stop hitting yourself" to the smaller kid he's picking on by also grabbing his arm and causing him to hit himself
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There were other thoughts I had today...what an amazing time to be alive with golf in high definition!!!!!
I was talking to one of my great friends of all time a week ago this morning about golf being the most beautiful sport ever conceived, seemingly through divine intervention, a communion of mankind and the almighty, as far as presumably, at an indigenous level, there must have been an individual in the Scottish Highlands with a stick and a round stone and a hole in the ground, and gradually it became the cornerstone of civilization, 500 year old pubs were established around the old courses to facilitate the discussions of the gradual curvature of the earth and a putt breaking either slightly left or right.
What a blessing the game has been to the development of humanity.
https://www.usopen.com/
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Louis Oosthuizen
2021 US Open Championship
Saturday Interview after the soon to be legendary 50 Foot Eagle put for a share of the lead at the 18th.
https://youtu.be/AWe1udSqhfA
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Edit: "putt"
Edit: "putt"
https://youtu.be/5BNonJpAkNQ
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US Open Highlights, Day 3
https://youtu.be/9UbfPUpjTF4
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Stir it Up
Grateful Dead
April 5th, 1991
Atlanta, Georgia [site of the election irregularities of November 2020]
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/ga-investigators-elect...
https://youtu.be/RKMg1FJHayA
[in attendance]
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I'm a firm believer that things often happen for a reason...if I live to be a hundred years old I'll always remember Turtle and the lessons he taught me, I'll always remember the feeling of being at the mercy of the scum of the earth, and what that felt like...and that I was meant to feel this vulnerability from the scum of the earth and how he worked his leverage, it's a lesson I'll always remember, and for that I'm grateful.
ॐ
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got just the place for low
got just the place for low-cost housing, I have solved this problem, I know where we can build housing for the homeless: GOLF COURSES!!! Perfect! Golf courses! Just what we need! Just what we need: plenty of good land in nice neighbourhoods, land that is currently being wasted on a meaningless, mindless activity, engaged in primarily by white, well-to-do, male businessmen who use the game to get together to make deals to carve this country up a little finer among themselves. I am getting tired… really… getting… tired of these golfing cocksuckers in their green pants, and their yellow pants, and their orange pants, and their precious little hats, and their cute little golf carts! It is time to reclaim the golf courses from the wealthy and turn them over to the homeless. Golf is an arrogant, elitist game and it takes up entirely too much room in this country. It is an arrogant game on its very design alone. Just the design of the game SPEAKS of arrogance! Think of how big a golf course is… THE BALL IS THAT FUCKING BIG!!! WHAT DO THESE PIN-HEADED PRICKS NEED WITH ALL THAT LAND?!!! There are over 17,000 golf courses in America, they average over 150 acres apiece, that’s 3 million plus acres, 4,820 square miles… you could build two Rhode Island’s and a Delaware for the homeless on the land currently being wasted on this meaningless, mindless, arrogant, elitist, racist – there’s another thing; the only blacks you’ll find in country clubs are carrying trays – and a boring game… boring game for boring people. You ever watch golf on television? It’s like watching flies fuck! And-and a mindless game, mindless, think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick… and then… walking after it… and then… HITTING IT AGAIN!!! I SAY PICK IT UP ASSHOLE!!! YOU’RE LUCKY YOU FOUND THE FUCKING THING!!! PUT IT IN YOUR POCKET AND GO THE FUCK HOME!!! YOU’RE A WINNER!!! YOU’RE A WINNER!!! YOU FOUND IT!!! No… never happens… no… no chance of that happening; Dorko in the plaid knickers is going to hit it again and walk some more. Let these rich cocksuckers play miniature golf. Let ‘em fuck with a windmill for an hour and a half or so… see if there’s really any skill among these people. Now I know there are some people who play golf who don’t consider themselves rich… FUCK ‘EM!!! And shame on them for engaging in an arrogant, elitist pastime.
Hey! Here’s another place we can put some low-cost housing: CEMETARIES!!! There’s another idea whose time has passed! Saving all the dead people up for one part of town?! What the hell kind of a medieval, superstitious, religious, bullshit idea is that?! Plough these motherfuckers up, plough into the streams and rivers of America; we need that phosphorous for farming! If we’re going to recycle, LET’S GET SERIOUS!!!-George Carlin
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I have a pretty cool golf story, we checked in to the Alpine Valley Resort the morning before the "Family Reunion" shows [I think that's what the shows were called] anyways the golf course was directly behind the stage, and me and my buddy are playing the entire round of golf the day before the first gig with Phil sound checking the bass for what seemed like several hours, Phil's bass bouncing of the mountains backstage, it was a true moment in time.
Played tennis later that afternoon with another buddy of mine who's no longer with us.
That was a great weekend, Owsley was in attendance.
I remember a large rainbow over the stage, it was a beautiful weekend.
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B-ry is triggered by Turts.
B-ry is triggered by Turts.
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It was a double rainbow,
It was a double rainbow, during He's Gone.
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...George Carlin probably didn't have his golf game together when he went on that rant, I'm sure he was intelligent enough to realize it's the most beautiful game ever imagined, he knew that you knew that he knew that you knew he was obviously saying these things in jest.
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One thing I've been observing in the last few days, and of course it's a fluid situation, is the "pivot" towards the concept of [paraphrasing] "Even if it was stolen there's no path towards reinstatement, so blah blah blah". This is both incorrect and pathetically revealing, we are entering uncharted territory, and yes it's a constitutional crisis, but we'll methodically put one foot in front of the other and move forward as a republic...but to claim [rather pathetically] that there's no remedy so therefore an illegitimate presidency must continue is the height of absurdity, this is a true house of cards that may collapse much quicker than you can possibly imagine, think of today as compared with one week ago, it's fascinating to observe the collapse of the false narrative in real-time...we are witnessing an historical event.
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They will teach all the
They will teach all the schoolchildren that the country is really run by a cabal of dead canines! A historical event!!!
QAnon Believers Suggest Secret Message Behind Announcement of Biden Dog Champ's Death
https://www.newsweek.com/qanon-believers-suggest-secret-message-behind-a...
And that cicada that landed on Biden last week:
"Newsweek reported earlier that We The Media, a group of QAnon advocates with more than 225,000 subscribers on its Telegram account, believes that Biden swatting at the cicadas is actually "comms."
"JOE BIDEN BITTEN BY A CICADA - COMMS? Just so happens that Cicada nymphs emerge after a 17-year childhood underground!!!" We The Media wrote.
The "underground" comment is a reference to the baseless QAnon belief that a network of secret underground tunnels exists and children are being trafficked and abused by satanic pedophiles."
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Do you actually believe the
Do you actually believe the shit that you write?
A bunch of ignorant fucktards throwing a temper tantrum because their douchebag didn't win IS NOT a constitutional crisis.
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Brian, are you spending any time at all following the events in Georgia? Arizona? Pennsylvania? Wisconsin? Michigan?
Try to keep up...I thought you were a bit more up to speed on all of this.
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I am up to speed. All that
I am up to speed. All that shit was settled back in January. A bunch of numbnuts complaining about it and saying, "I think I can," doesn't constitute an "event."
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So you're familiar with the court proceedings underway in Fulton County? Please give me your thoughts on that, thank you.
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Go play some golf.
Go play some golf.
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Find the remote control and turn on CNN...they are in a "sky is falling" Orwellian panic, that may be your first clue as to what is transpiring.
...you're welcome
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Who actually watches that
Who actually watches that stuff? Lol
good luck with your fat golf god. I'm sure he appreciates your blindness
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CNN is not a litmus test for
CNN is not a litmus test for anything real.
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I switched on CNN for a
I switched on CNN for a second. They were blathering about how republicans don't like critical race theory. Some news that is.
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I don't watch television but
I don't watch television but just clicked on cnn website out of curiosity of what this was all about and had to scroll almost all the way down the page to find anything related to what Bry is talking about. The story headline is "Growing list of Arizona republicans have had enough amid "audit." That's all I could find
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Spry bry still at it,,
Spry bry still at it,, dementia set in early on the poor lad
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No, there is an ice wall at
No, there is an ice wall at the edge.
And the dome...don't forget the dome.
The best kept secret ever. That deep state is a motherfucker!
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>And the dome...don't forget the dome<
The Simpsons get it right once again.
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All this is just another
All this is just another analogy similar to the much respected zoner, Face on Mars' past experience at the Telluride thing<<<
thanks jaz, didn't see this reference earlier ... but did catch the canine analogies and liked them too!
Now that I start to think about it more, I wonder if dogs could sense the truth about the situation with Trump and his "followers" in a round about way. I believe Brian Wilson's mother was on to something about sensing "vibrations" ... and suspect an experiment could be setup akin to dogs that are trained to sniff out covid, but instead figure out who's a pathalogical liar. Then again, it's possible there are very few liars at work, but rather far more people who believe lies. Then again and again, maybe dogs can be trained to detect the vibrations of those who are fully invested in lies.
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Best to let sleeping dogs lie
Best to let sleeping dogs lie.
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...and lying dogs sleep.
...and lying dogs sleep.
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Good boy. (RIP Champ.)
Good boy. (RIP Champ.)
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While Biden's dog, Champ,
While Biden's dog, Champ, deserves MUCH more than Bryen does in terms of a response or attention here, I am wondering why, if he was such an "innie" in the GD scene, he seems to feel too cool for the golf spot or reservation at the Alpine Valley resort? Anybody's anybody could have simply made a reservation and stayed or golfed accordingly. Plus, it's no secret that Phil loved the place and totally got off on having his bass bombs rumble up the hill there too. What gives, fool/tool? By the way, despite his foolish beliefs, there will be no giant revelation or change coming this year - or any other for that mtter - for his boy, ConDon, other than an increasingly tangled legal-financial mess that will be cool to watch unfold. Latorz.
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^ and go on tour the end of
^ and go on tour the end of this year with bill o'reilly to earn $$ for said legal troubles
What bry ? he won't be pres in Aug ? Gonna be some q-head explosions
Trump to launch speaking tour with Bill O'Reilly | TheHill
https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/557171-trump-to-launch...
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Six seconds of Lego
Six seconds of Lego perfection:
https://i.imgur.com/4Ei8ADb.mp4
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> Trump to launch speaking
> Trump to launch speaking tour with Bill O'Reilly
Billed as The Rapes of Wrath?
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Tragical History Tour
Tragical History Tour
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Tomorrow on Fox News
Tomorrow on Fox News
Tucker Carlson asks, "What did Champ know? And why was he silenced?"
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Bry made it onto the course
Bry made it onto the course today...
https://mobile.twitter.com/Sean_Zak/status/1406744900444606473?ref_src=t...
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>That was a great weekend,
>That was a great weekend, Owsley was in attendance.<
LOL. Owsley was always there, whether actually physically present or not.
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...any day now. I just know
...any day now. I just know that bombshell is about to bomb!
GOP-led Michigan Senate investigation finds no evidence of election fraud
https://www.yahoo.com/news/gop-led-michigan-senate-investigation-1401365...
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Jaz that Pro Plan must really
Jaz that Pro Plan must really taste like shit if your boy has to wash it down with rose buds (look on his face priceless) and other such shrubbery.
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I guess he likes it,Ras.
I guess he likes it,Ras.
There's a school of thought that it [the 245 year fragility of the republic] had to be attacked and bludgeoned to this extreme to be stronger having survived it, as if it were happening in accordance to divine providence.<<<
What school?
So the coup attempt was necessary to save democracy according to Heaven.
Oy.
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<< the coup attempt was
<< the coup attempt was necessary to save democracy according to Heaven.
Fucking Coocoo Comic Brilliance ! Wish I thought of it. You'd fit right in on one'a them crack pot conspiracy theory websites. Hey now bry where are they, and how do we sign up ?
Serenade to a Cuckoo (2001 Remaster)
https://youtu.be/bq4bponfj2E
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So, just so I have this clear
So, just so I have this clear:
The completely legal and Constitutional impeachment hearings were a coup attempt, and the violent, armed and deadly takeover attempt of the Capitol was free speech and the pinnacle of democracy?
Got it.
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Om
Om
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I like ' oy ' better.
I like ' oy ' better.
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I blame George Soros....
I blame George Soros....
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How many paragraphs is
How many paragraphs is
BAT
SHIT
CRAZY
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ZERO COGNITIVE ABILITY
ZERO
COGNITIVE
ABILITY
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PERSON WHO HATES
PERSON
WHO
HATES
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PERSON WHO HATES
How many syllables is the word delusional
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Do you believe you have a
Do you believe you have a constitutional right
or even a duty
to bring a high-capacity magazine automatic rifle to a Jerry Garcia band show
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Do you love Trump more than
Do you love Trump more than you pretend to love Jerry?
Don't worry I won't judge you
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At the risk of rousing the cybernarc from his slumber, I feel as if you guys should be updated...enjoy the day.
“Who can stop what must arrive now? Something new is waiting to be born.”
http://artsites.ucsc.edu/GDEAD/AGDL/crazy.html#yeats
After several Fulton County, Ga., poll monitors testified last year that boxes of mail-in ballots for Joe Biden looked liked they’d been run through a photocopy machine, state investigators quietly broke the seal on one suspicious box and inspected the hundreds of votes it contained for signs of fraud, RealClearInvestigations has learned exclusively
At the same time, a key whistleblower told RCI that state investigators pressured her to recant her story about what she and other poll monitors had observed -- what they called unusually “pristine” mail-in ballots while sorting through them during last November’s hand recount.
“I felt I was under investigation,” said Suzi Voyles, a longtime Fulton County poll manager whose sworn affidavits have been used by election watchdogs to sue the county for access to the ballots in question.
Although the ballots are at the center of disputes about the Georgia presidential race, which Joe Biden won by just 12,000 votes, the state never disclosed its probe to the public or to election watchdogs suing to inspect the ballots.
State officials also neglected to inform the judge hearing the lawsuit that they were conducting such an inspection, even though the judge had issued a protective order over the ballots in January. In a nine-page amicus brief recently filed in the case, attorneys for the office of Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger urged Superior Court Judge Brian Amero to deny petitioners’ requests to inspect the ballots, calling them a “fishing expedition.”
Frances Watson, chief investigator for the secretary of state’s office, confirmed in a statement to RCI that she sent investigators to Fulton County earlier this year to inspect the batches of sealed ballots. Poll monitors involved in last November’s hand recount had described the mail-in ballots in sworn affidavits as devoid of creases and folds and featuring identically bubbled-in marks for Biden. But the state said it could not find any ballots matching that description.
“Our investigators looked into it and didn’t find anything,” she said, while adding the investigation is “still ongoing.”
The watchdogs question why state officials did not disclose their activities to the court and fear they may have “tampered” with the sealed ballots, which are at the center of their lawsuit seeking access to all 147,000 absentee ballots cast during the 2020 election in Fulton County, which includes much of Atlanta.
Led by longtime Georgia poll watcher Garland Favorito, founder of VoterGA.org, the court petitioners say the state has failed to inform the judge overseeing their case that they broke the chain of custody over the pallets of shrink-wrapped absentee ballots warehoused in a locked county facility in Atlanta.
“If the secretary of state’s office did that, they tampered with the ballots and violated Georgia state law,” which restricts the handling of ballots to authorized elections officials involved in the tabulation and care of the ballots, Favorito said. He also noted that Judge Amero had placed the ballots under a protective order in January. “They would have had to ask for a court order to unseal and inspect those ballots and they never did that.”
Raffensperger’s office seemed to acknowledge the ballots were still under seal when it urged Amero to prevent the watchdogs from inspecting the ballots.
“The security and confidentiality of ballots is to be strictly maintained,” attorneys for Raffensperger argued in the brief they filed with Amero in April, “and the court should be cautious in granting petitioners’ access to ballots that Georgia law requires to remain under seal, which makes it a felony as soon as petitioners were to lay hands on them.”
Raffensperger’s office did not respond to questions about why it did not inform the court about its probe, although it acknowledged that this is the first time its inspection of the ballots – which began in early January – has been publicly disclosed. Judge Amero did not respond to requests for comment.
Biden narrowly won Georgia thanks to a late-night tally of absentee ballots in Fulton and other Democratic strongholds. The revelation that state authorities have already unsealed and investigated the ballots in question is a new twist in a case that has seen the firing of poll managers who blew the whistle on the suspicious ballots; a recent breach of security at the warehouse that Fulton County officials were supposed to be guarding around the clock; and an 11th-hour attempt by county officials to dismiss the court-ordered inspection of those ballots – many of which came from Atlanta area drop boxes whose chain of custody documentation has mysteriously turned up missing.
Last month Amero ordered Fulton County to unseal its 147,000 absentee ballots and allow the petitioners to inspect them under certain restrictions, but the county filed a motion to dismiss the case. Amero is expected to rule on the motion later this month.
The issue is further muddied by Suzi Voyles’ allegation, never previously reported, that she was pressured to recant her testimony about the pristine ballots. In sworn affidavits last November, Suzi Voyles said she observed that a large batch of mail-in ballots for Biden did not appear to have been folded or handled like she would have expected from her two decades of working elections in the county. She also said that the marks for Biden were identical, as though they had been filled in by a copying machine rather than a pen or pencil.
In a Jan. 7 interview, which took place at a secretary of state’s office in Atlanta, Voyles told RCI that an investigator identifying himself as Paul Braun “grilled me for over two hours” about her testimony. She said he was joined by another official whom she said was from the Georgia Bureau of Investigation. She added that the investigators did not have a copy of her affidavit and did not know the box number and batch numbers of the ballots in question.
“I smelled a rat when they didn’t know the batch numbers when they were clearly denoted in my affidavit,” Voyles said.
She added the investigators “gave no indication" they had gone to the warehouse to find the suspicious ballots or were conducting any kind of forensic investigation. Voyles said the investigators kept trying to convince her she might have been mistaken about her observations.
“I did not recant,” she asserted. “The ballots that I saw had been pre-printed. It’s a very serious thing in my opinion. That’s what I swore to under penalty of perjury. Recanting would be perjuring myself.”
Watson told RCI that Voyles “stated that she may have been mistaken about the batch number and provided a different batch number."
“I never said that,” Voyles insisted.
"The second batch number provided by Ms. Voyles did not exist,” Watson added.
Voyles contended she never provided any other batch numbers. Watson also revealed that “investigators went to Fulton County and reviewed the batches identified by Ms. Voyles, but found no ballots that looked as Ms. Voyles described.” Favorito said his group’s attorney plans to file a motion to depose Watson and Braun to understand exactly what investigators have done regarding the boxes of absentee ballots in question.
Favorito said he does not doubt Voyles’
testimony and said the ballot images his group has reviewed support her account of anomalies.
“At no time has Susan Voyles claimed she was mistaken,” Favorito said. “She has consistently stood by her affidavit since she submitted it almost seven months ago.”
Asked if Voyles is under criminal investigation, Georgia Secretary of State Communications Director Ari Schaffer said, “I have no reason to believe she’s under investigation for perjury.” Last December, Raffensperger “condemned” the unexplained firing of Voyles by Fulton County elections officials and called on them to rehire her.
As RCI previously reported, Voyles is one of four Fulton County poll monitors who signed affidavits swearing they observed the same pattern of irregularities in stacks of mail-in ballots for Biden. All of them suggested the ballots had been photocopied.
Favorito, who did not vote for Trump, said the state has also tried to interview one other witness – poll monitor Robin Hall – and said he himself is under investigation. He suggested state investigators are trying to intimidate witnesses into backing off their testimony, and are more interested in investigating whistleblowers than finding evidence of ballot fraud.
Schaffer said he was unsure whether the other affiants have been interviewed. “I’ll have to check on the other three” witnesses, he said.
Favorito added that the discovery of hard evidence of fraud in Georgia’s largest county would be embarrassing for Raffensperger, who is running for reelection with little support from the Georgia GOP, which recently censured him for creating “opportunities for fraud” by agreeing to the relaxation of voting rules during the 2020 election.
“He is worried that we will uncover serious wrongdoing on the part of the secretary of state, not just Fulton County,” Favorito said.
Voyles pointed out that Raffensperger has been too quick to declare the 2020 Georgia election free of fraud. Most recently, he was blindsided by revelations that Fulton County election officials had “misplaced” the required chain-of-custody forms documenting the collection of almost 20,000 mail-in ballots from 36 largely unsupervised drop-off boxes Raffensperger agreed to let Democrat-controlled Fulton County distribute across the Atlanta area ahead of the Nov. 3 presidential election.
“New revelations that Fulton County is unable to produce all ballot drop-box transfer documents will be investigated thoroughly,” Raffensperger tweeted June 14, adding that Fulton officials failed to follow state rules regarding the boxes. “This cannot continue.”
Voyles said Raffensperger’s office is increasingly concerned about its pre-election decision to mollify demands by Democratic voter-rights group to make it easier to vote by absentee ballot.
“They are investigating us to divert attention from their consent agreement with [Democratic activist] Stacey Abrams,” she said.
“We never should have had any drop boxes. We wouldn’t have had chain-of-custody problems and the other problems with absentee ballots if they hadn’t put in those drop boxes,” Voyles added. "It was negligence.”
https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2021/06/22/georgia_cond...
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Irrefutable windmills
Irrefutable windmills
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https://youtu.be/EtKGrX5nf1Y
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https://youtu.be/EtKGrX5nf1Y
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https://youtu.be/EtKGrX5nf1Y
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Post the Georgia flag, that
Post the Georgia flag, that worked out well for you with Arizona
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Got Michigan? Check.
Got Michigan? Check.
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Coup Coup for Coco Puffs.
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Byren ... what are your
Byren ... what are your thoughts regarding the Michigan audit results?
I have a sneaky feeling as all the audit results are revealed (with no change in the election) there will be new, unanswered 'questions'. LOL
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Georgia, Georgia, Georgia...
Georgia, Georgia, Georgia...
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Here's the problem: all the
Here's the problem: all the wrong people voted for the wrong candidate, so he won. The wrong people are now conducting the audits, which is why they aren't discounting the wrong votes of the wrong people.
If only the right people were doing the audits. Then they'd discount all those wrong votes and make Trump president again..
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There actually was some
There actually was some kunckle-dragging GA-(R) politician whom recently defended gerry-mandering and voter suppression by stating, "We dont need or want the wrong people voting."
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Thu, June 24, 2021, 10:29 AM
Thu, June 24, 2021, 10:29 AM
NEW YORK (Reuters) -Rudy Giuliani's law license in New York state was suspended on Thursday, as a state appeals court found he had lied in arguing that the 2020 presidential election was stolen from his client, former U.S. President Donald Trump.
Giuliani, 77, a former U.S. Attorney in Manhattan and New York City mayor, was sanctioned for making unsubstantiated claims in court, testimony before lawmakers, press conferences and other media appearances about electoral fraud.
The five-justice Appellate Division in Manhattan found "uncontroverted" evidence that Giuliani made "demonstrably false and misleading statements to courts, lawmakers and the public" in trying to overturn the election, which Democrat Joe Biden won.
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Damn It! I am just certain
Damn It! I am just certain that he was just about on the cusp of dropping that unbelievable bombshell and proving the big lie and and and......
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Any day now...
Any day now...
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How many electoral votes is
How many electoral votes is Ga anyway? Think your gonna need a better success rate