Phil has Spoken!

Bryen will be along to explain shortly, along with how he saw more shows then Phil so his opinion counts more 

Lol. This thread can stop now. Fishcane for the win!

Classic.

"Bryen" will start babbling about how he never supported Trump and everything is Hillary and Joe's fault, anyway.

Bryen: I ain't often right, but I've never been wrong...

First off we have the right to make up our own minds! Thank you Phillip! Welcome to Democracy.

If you don't like the way a person votes who cares!  Your just a bass player in a R n R band whos opinion counts just like everyones. 

Are you trying to force your people to vote your way Adolf!?

I haven't seen you since 2001 and because of your threatening controlling words I will never see you.

Telling people who don't think ;like him to not come to shows!? FU !

But I can't believe he would be so stupid and say that.

Lol

The Bin Ladens just removed their names from the TXR email list.

fat men with cut off leather biker jackets and those long silver key chains should now be banned from TXR.  good riddance. 

If this was 1972, replace 'Trump' with 'Nixon'.

I think most of us would be happy to replace Trump with Nixon at this point. But Biden will do. 

I love the sentiment, but question the validity.

He wasn't telling anyone who to vote for.

Republicans have zero right to like the Grateful Dead 

or zero

And  I have seen Jerry more times than Phil 

There will be some Marinites crying in their cosmos tonight.

fat men with cut off leather biker jackets and those long silver key chains should now be banned from TXR.  good riddance. <<<<< HA HA ! thx jr

Huh?  Isn't it Philip (Chapman) Lesh? 

Not Phillip.

I think you are right about the spelling, Dave

Yes, good call, one "l".

Is this passing the smell test?

Anyone on Facebook to opine if this is real?

Good to see you laugh, Plf.

     In all fairness...it’s probably unrealistic to expect anyone who fell for the Russia Scam to recognize the misspelling of someone’s name who played bass in a band they only saw 4 or 5 times when it was geographically convenient.

I am so disappointed and i'm honestly beside myself. I may leave Viva over this. 

Noodler, that page was there but is no longer findable to me, either.

People are so easily fooled nowadays 

It's obviously fake news but the sad thing is that some people here agree with it. So much for freedom of thought. Pffft.

<<<>>>Republicans have zero right to like the Grateful Dead 

pig was a republican. 

Something tells me that more than one person on this board has wired money to a Nigerian prince, who simply needs a few dollars to move his fortune out of the country. 

>obviously fake news but the sad thing is that some people here agree with it. So much for freedom of thought<

Folks are free to think what they want. But I'm free to believe that you are a piece of shit, if you support a racist, misogynistic, incompetent, lying, aspiring authoritarian, like Trump. 

But if, then what?

I am free to avoid associating with folks I find to be abhorrent. And if I were a successful musician,  such as Mr. Lesh, I'd be free to tell such folks to fuck off and stay away from my shows. Sure, such folks could always buy a ticket, but they will also know what is thought of them. 

Perhaps you've noticed,  I have no problems telling folks what I think of them.

     At least Phil didn’t use his platform to knowingly perpetuate lies and misinformation about Trump being an agent of the Kremlin like some on this message board...so there’s that.

Are people pieces of shit for voting for Biden too? 

^When the alternative is Trump? No

So when people say "vote" what they really mean is vote for my candidate or else fuck you?

Kinda sounds more like you're the real asshole, no?

     https://youtu.be/0CH0k946by4

No, Timpane, you're free to vote for a racist, misogynistic, incompetent, dishonest, aspiring authoritarian.  But I'm free to believe that you are abhorrent if you do. Trump is an existential threat. Voting for him speaks volumes about an individual, IMO

But you still say "vote" so if people go out and vote for trump then you asked them to. 

 People are free to vote for whichever candidate they please, Timpane.  Or they can choose not to vote. I am not involved in those individual decisions.  But I do believe that Trump is a dangerous and evil person.

You actually think he deserves the Nobel Peace Prize?

That's rich.

Carlson: For four decades Phil Lesh has been playing music with Bob Weir and Bill Kreutzmann. For thirty of those years they were joined by Jerry Garcia in the Grateful Dead. It was one of the most innovative acts in American music. Evolving from Bay area acid rock to bluegrass and almost everything in between. As its bassist, Lesh may have been the band’s most musically adventurous member. I saw Phil Lesh play with the Dead more than 50 times, and when he came to Washington to talk about his memoir, Searching for the Sound, I interviewed him, unapologetically, as a fan.

For our viewers who aren’t as familiar with the Grateful Dead, one of the things that comes out in your really nicely written excellent book 

Lesh: Thank you.

Carlson: Is how much you all toured.

Lesh: Yes.

Carlson: Give me an overview sense of the last 40 years.

Lesh: Well, we started out playing for dancers in the ballrooms of San Francisco in the

  late 1960’s. And that’s really what we’ve always thought of ourselves as, as a — essentially a dance band, a lot like the swing bands of the 1930’s and 1940’s. We always wanted to — we just wanted to play for more people. Because the way we thought of our music was as kind of a communion ritual, sort of we commune with each other and form what we thought of as a group mind. And that brings the music out and then we can transmit that to the audience and they send us energy back. And so that was the main reason we played music was to get that communion going and that sense of community.

Carlson: How would you describe Grateful Dead music? It seems to go all the way from acid rock to almost country. What is it?

Lesh: Well, it’s something that has — it’s a kind of music that has a wide range of influences in it. And so from the beginning, we wanted to try and blend and fuse, really, all of those influences. And so we consciously tried to look at the music as being texturally greater than the sum of the parts.

Carlson: Your early music was influenced by L.S.D. You have this amazing description of being at a show and somebody puts a bunch of acid in your orange juice and you get on stage. And you’re not sure what this device is in your hands.

It’s a bass, as it turns out, which you played.

Lesh: Yes.

Carlson: Did L.S.D. make the music better?

Lesh: It didn’t do that much to the music — it didn’t make anybody play better or worse. What it did was, fuse our minds together in a kind of telepathic manner that allowed us to — see the best part about making our kind of music is when the music is pretty much playing us and there’s no one there at all moving the fingers. That is to say we all subassume our identity in a sense in a greater whole. We call that — the group mind. That’s the tool that we use to open the valve to that pipeline which funnels that greater music down through us. Stravinski once said I am the vessel through which the music passes. In the case of the Grateful Dead, that’s also the case.

Carlson: The Grateful Dead, at least from the outside it appeared to be a libertarian spirit, a reluctance to tell other people what to do. It struck me as a kind of nonpolitical band at least from the outside. Other bands always lecturing you from the stage. No one from the Grateful Dead, the shows I went to, anyway, was lecturing you who to vote for. You’ve got this amazing line in the book, I want to read it to you, a show you played in 1966 in the panhandle of San Francisco, you said there was a Buddhist chant led by Alan Ginsburg. After that, poets read, bands played. We even had some leftist politicos ranting the only bring-down of the day.

Lesh: I’m referring to the human be-in there.

Carlson: Yeah. When all these bands became political, all the bands in your world, why did you all choose not to?

Lesh: Because we felt that what we were doing was more — I hate to use that word because it’s almost a cliche — religious. What we were doing was religious in the sense of the word, which means to bind together. We were trying to create a community of spirit with the music and the political harang and — again, it was just like a cop trying to tell people what to do, legislate morality or legislate private behavior. It was just anathema to us.

Carlson: But you have these wide-eyed fans who love you. Isn’t it tempting to send a message?

Lesh: The metaphor of the band cooperating and collaborating and being one organism, that’s the message.

Carlson: If it’s a religious movement, you have all these religous followers, what did you think of the Dead Heads?

Lesh: God bless their little pea-picking hearts, as my mother used to say. I’m going around now and doing book signings. In the past I’ve done blood drives. It is just the most wonderful experience to meet these Dead Heads face to face, just like you and I right here and shake a hand and get a smile and all everybody wants to do is say thank you. Thank you for changing my life.

Carlson: So you never thought that there were people taking it too seriously, devoting their lives to going on tour, for instance?

Lesh: Well, there was — yeah, people were doing that and I saw that, and I think we all did as the last great American adventure. You can’t hitchhike or run away with the circus or ride the rails anymore. Going on tour with the band, any band, really, is an adventure. There’s a little uncertainty, a little danger. Generally it’s a safe environment and you can extend yourself. You can explore other realities and still come back and tell the tale the next day.

Carlson: I was amazed to read that for all the touring you guys did, 30 years, almost full time, a lot of the time it seems like.

Lesh: Yes.

Carlson: You weren’t making a huge amount of money. Why?

Lesh: We started out — it’s strange. Up to a certain point before we had our big record in 1987, we weren’t really making that much money. We were supporting ourselves and we put everything into the general kitty. And the band and everyone else drew salaries. And pretty much, you know, cost of living salaries. They’d go up from time to time. And the idea was to put everything back into equipment and, you know, to increase — to enhance, rather, the experience and the technology of presenting the music.

Carlson: Why couldn’t you ever capture your sound in the studio?

Lesh: We — you know, I don’t think any of us ever believed it could be done. Because there’s just so much — there was just so much range to it. Not necessarily only dynamic range or — but there’s just so much emotional range to it and we just — we found ourselves in the studio always trying to tone it down, which really isn’t what we do. We’re not about turning it down. We’re about opening it up.

Carlson: I was impressed and amazed that you let people tape your shows with high-tech equipment. You’re best known for live touring. Your albums don’t sell as well as your concerts. You’re giving away the product. How does that work, and why was that a good business decision?

Lesh: It was a good business decision because we didn’t think of it as a business decision. It was that libertarian spirit, I think, that prompted it. It just started happening rather spontaneously. We started noticing microphone stands in the audience. We thought, OK, they’re taping the shows. It was first cassettes and digital audience tape and mini disk, and now it’s hard drive, I guess. But management came to us and said, well, we can’t let them do that and Jerry just stood right up and said, listen, after we’ve played it, we’re done with it. They can have it. Let them do whatever they want with it. We did ask them not to sell it, you know, just trade it. Give it away. That’s what happened. People would copy their tapes and give the copy to a friend or to a sibling or to a parent, even. And it was the smartest thing we ever did. It just —

Carlson: Really? Because I never —

Lesh: It disseminated the music.

Carlson: Yeah, but I never bought your albums when I was little. I just got tapes for free.

Lesh: We didn’t care. We only made the albums because it was maybe what we were supposed to do. You know, you make records. It brought in a little money, you know. It was interesting to play in the studio and see what could be done with it. But that wasn’t why — that wasn’t why we were playing music, to make records.

Carlson: You have this description in the book of Jerry Garcia in his later years staying home and building model trains and teaching his cat to fetch.

Lesh: I saw it with my own eyes.

Carlson: Were you surprised when he died? When Jerry Garcia died?

Lesh: I wasn’t surprised. I was shocked and saddened and, in fact, devastated, but I wasn’t surprised. Really, we’d all been waiting for this a long time. He’d been really sick in 1986, again in 1992. And he couldn’t seem to shake the habit. But to his eternal credit, he was really trying to turn it around when he died. He’d gone to Betty Ford. That hadn’t worked out for him. But right after that he came back and he checked himself in to another facility. Which — for rehab. And he clearly hoped that that was going to help. So — but it was — it was really hard to make the decision to tour at all, for me, because after Jerry’s death I didn’t really want to do it. I didn’t think I wanted to play music with anybody but him. He was the reason I joined the band in the first place.

Carlson: Phil Lesh. This is one of the best books I’ve read in a long time.

Lesh: Thank you.

Carlson: Searching for the Sound.

Lesh: Thank you. Good to be here.

Tucker Carlson: Unfiltered - Season 1, ... Aired Friday 9:30 PM May 06, 2005 on PBS.

I think the only guy who can be at war and get the Nobel peace prize is Obama.

Thats cool, Lumber. I agree, but if you ask people to "vote" just remember what you're asking and be ready to accept the fact that they might not choose to vote for your candidate. 

Folks are free to think what they want. But I'm free to believe that you are a piece of shit, if you support a racist, misogynistic, incompetent, lying, aspiring authoritarian, like Trump. 

Just where did I say where I lean politically!??

Just stating that banning people because of there opinions is Nazism at it's worst! Don't you agree? 

Wow cool, a nomination! He joins Stalin and Hitler in yet another category 

     If the new left thought for a moment Americans would vote for a candidate with advanced dementia they wouldn't be acting so nervously...a Trump landslide is in the works, you heard it here first.

Banning is different than stating that someone is not welcome, doolittle. No? 

Link to dementia diagnosis details please. We’ve heard this touted a few times so it’s time to share your source for this lil nugget... 

    ^ I think any honest discussion about Biden as leader of the free world addresses his dementia.

     __________________________________________________________________________

     Carlson: Yeah. When all these bands became political, all the bands in your world, why did you all choose not to?

     Lesh: Because we felt that what we were doing was more — I hate to use that word because it’s almost a cliche — religious. What we were doing was religious in the sense of the word, which means to bind together. We were trying to create a community of spirit with the music and the political harang and — again, it was just like a cop trying to tell people what to do, legislate morality or legislate private behavior. It was just anathema to us.

Banning is different than stating that someone is not welcome, doolittle. No? 

It's a business establishment isn't it!?  All aren't allowed!  Shall we put up signs like the south that say Negroes not allowed!?  

Your mentality scares me for the future of my generations if you can't handle people who think differently.  

I’ll take that as a “no sorry, there is no actual dementia diagnosis, I’m only speculating cuz that’s what I see the other sheep in my herd doing. I know it’s likely only just fox talking point since Joe Biden actually shares meaningful information that the public should know so as to make an actual informed decision that isn’t based on rhetoric and unfounded speculation”

Doolittle, there's a restaurant nearby that I once enjoyed visiting. Now, members of a 1% motorcycle club frequent the place. I'm still allowed to go, but I'm not welcomed. 

If a professional musician decides that African Americans are not welcome at their concerts, I'd still be allowed to go, and would likely be treated just fine, but I wouldn't feel welcomed.

Years ago I attended African American unity day in Philly. Besides myself, I noticed a handful a white guys, but I felt welcomed.  

>your mentality scares me for the future of my generations if you can't handle people who think differently<

I'm fine with folks who think differently. Hell, I've lived amongst Republicans for a good part of my life. But when it come to a racist, misogynistic, incompetent, dishonest, aspiring authoritarian, like Trump, I draw a line. 

     "I’ll take that as a “no sorry, there is no actual dementia diagnosis, I’m only speculating cuz that’s what I see the other sheep in my herd doing. I know it’s likely only just fox talking point since Joe Biden actually shares meaningful information that the public should know so as to make an actual informed decision that isn’t based on rhetoric and unfounded speculation” - fishcane 

     You do realize he’s yet to have an unscripted hard hitting interview and has famously answered predetermined, orchestrated questions from “journalists”, and then reading predetermined answers from a teleprompter, correct?  Because...at this point that’s not even disputed.

     नमस्ते

    -Bryen

>>>It's a business establishment isn't it!?  All aren't allowed!  Shall we put up signs like the south that say Negroes not allowed!?  

>>>Your mentality scares me for the future of my generations if you can't handle people who think differently. 

You are missing the point. Your example is of people that have no choice. A black person can't become white and didn't choose to be black. When Trump says that voting is corrupt, won't agree to a peaceful transfer of power, celebrates militias that support him, and says the constitution gives him absolute power we have moved on from a difference of opinion on politics to a difference of opinion on whether me and my friends are going to be locked up and or killed for the things we believe. People who support Trump say they like him because he says what he believes and on that we agree. There are people dead in El Paso and Kenosha because Trump has encouraged the shooters. 

So if you choose to support Trump, because that is a choice - then fuck you, and I would 100% support businesses that don't allow those Covid infested people in.  

     One could argue this is reasonably indisputable...

     https://youtu.be/pCAiwDo-P_s

                                                                                                https://youtu.be/mD25tJT9sW8

So another words, there is no diagnosis 

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>> One could argue this is reasonably indisputable... <<

Gaffes versus incompetence, arrogance and general disdain for the majority of US citizens?

I'll take the occasional gaffe.

Yes and a quick YouTube search will turn up just as many Trump speaking errors and mistakes. But you already knew that....No diagnosis....baa baa lil sheeplet, 

Trump's involuntary arm movements are sharp and pronounced jerks here. Melania's arm is pulled as he does it. His stance is unsteady. It's part of his degenerative neurological disease- Frontotemporal dementia.

https://twitter.com/TomJChicago/status/1311612830622330881

If you want a complete rundown of his dementia you can get it here

https://twitter.com/TomJChicago

I Give Up!

 the lesser of two dementias  

"Vote" 2020

>>>the lesser of two dementias 

Nope Harris vs. Pence no contest there

Kinda like when you ask Puerto Rico to vote for u

^That's ignorance, not dementia 

>>> It's a business establishment isn't it!?  All aren't allowed! <<<

No. Belligerent drunks aren't allowed, as one example. Smokers are only allowed outside, but not in. It's not realistic to think that a business should allow all types of deranged, dangerous people in.

Someone sent ya that, eh Bry? Wonder why

>>> It's a business establishment isn't it!?  All aren't allowed! <<<

>>> No. Belligerent drunks aren't allowed, as one example. Smokers are only allowed outside, but not in. It's not realistic to think that a business should allow all types of deranged, dangerous people in.

poolittle wears a chin diaper

classic poo

Trollers gonna Troll......

I'm (once again) a little confused... wasn't it already determined that Phil didn't write that message?

Personally I don't think Phil would direct his staff to evict or deny someone service if they were wearing a MAGA hat at TxR. I imagine there would be some lively discussion, but it's doubtful that they'd be outright stiffed.

So what is everyone arguing about in here?

Or are we just arguing in general that any business should or shouldn't exclude someone from their business solely because they dislike or disagree with them?  

If that's the case, then IMO if the customer is respectful they should be served, no matter what type of hat they're wearing.

As I used to tell my staff... It's easy to be nice when everybody's nice, but can you still do your job when you don't like the customer?

zonin' is a job

sooo much syrup

Lol, no phil likely did not spell his own name wrong and shun people away from his business. It's ok to have open doors to the American and international public without trying to exclude people you disagree with. 

And Bry is just being Bry

Great argument Judit!

NOT

 Belligerent drunks aren't allowed, as one example. Smokers are only allowed outside, but not in. It's not realistic to think that a business should allow all types of deranged, dangerous people in.

So people who disagree with your politics are deranged and dangerous people!? Comparing them to drunks and smokers!? How soon they forget! I remember when Jews and Blacks weren't allowed in certain places. 

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Watch this animation that shows number of Covid cases since June and political affiliation of the state and tell me that it isn't OK as a business to keep out MAGA hat wearing people. From the President on down they are Covid infested super spreaders. My wife's hairstylist won't see them because she knows it puts her health at risk, and it has cost her business, but not as much if she were out of work for a month. 

https://dangoodspeed.com/covid/total-cases-since-june

Hysteria isn't funny!

But it is hysterical.

Just wow

Sometimes it's a riot.

Could it be a Quiet Riot! Or are burnings necessary!

Doolittle, I have no tolerance for those who support an overt racist and aspiring authoritarian. I will not hide my disgust when engaging with such people. Perhaps you feel differently? 

And I'm not advocating banning anyone, but I wouldn't discourage a good old fashioned shunning. 

Dude! LOL

Where am I saying my preference towards either side!?

I'm just stating that your a hypocrite!

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Fuckin' Nazis!!!

>Where am I saying my preference towards either side!?<

You didn't, this is why I wrote perhaps. 

Hypocrite?

No. Racists are free to shun me as well. I'm not calling for anyone's arrest, nor do I feel people should be banned. But I refuse to be civil with evil. 

Those bikers in that restaurant create an atmosphere that I find unwelcoming.  I haven't complained to the management, I just choose not to patronize the establishment. 

Doolittle would call ICE on the kitchen staff at TXR. 

STFU troll and go ask your wife for money to buy a Mickey blunt.

Why aren't you married, james?

     Serious question:  What should Phil's policy be about supporters of candidates who sell the Oval Office to the highest bidder?

    https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-reveals-how-hunter-biden-introduced-...

FB and Twitter both  removed Russian backed accounts and spreading of that B.S. article ^

Have a blessed day, "Bryen" 

     Actually...the Facebook/Twitter censorship is one of the more fascinating parts of the story, it kind of ties in with the spirit of the discussion topic.

doolittle's stupid ass post. hahaha 

Serious question:

the pinnacle of absurdity

and LAUGH OUT LOUDNESS sponsored by the delusional but oh so righteously condescendingly stubborn class idiot

anti geographically convenient one  soooo rich - smilin' big right now, will pray for your soul

so how many dems will vote for barrett's confirmation?

all of them? 

or does that not matter any longer? 

Jr, you know that was some fine zoning right there.  

     I've mentioned this before...but when it finally crystallizes that the Burisma Scam was the impetus for the January 5th, 2017 Oval Office meeting it will all begin to make sense.

     ^ remember those words

     goodnight & good luck 

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Bryen is nothing but a pathetic no life troll. It's so painfully obvious that he isn't even a real Deadhead, and he proves it every time he posts, despite all his contentions and claims "fake" proof. It boggles my mind why anyone even engages him. Why don't you all just follow his leader's most "outstanding, intelligent advice" and and ignore him like the virus, and he will "just disappear". Everyone's constant engagement of his pathetic, delusional, brainwashed, soulless and photoshopped drivel and banter is the primary reason why Vivalazone is a fraction of the place it's predecessor was, and why visiting here, and clicking on even what seem to be innocuous threads is becoming a colossal waste of my time. It's like living in "Groundhog Day" or the "Twilight Zone"

I wish everyone including the aforementioned incredibly sick putz, health,  happiness and peace and hope you all do everything in your powers to help rid us of this national pestilence and disgrace and find ways to help and contribute to making this zone, country and world a more kind and humane place to live in. 
 

Jamspace, it's true that Bryen doesn't add anything except possibly a little irritation, but he's only one person. You can help bring back some vibrancy of the Philzone by just being here, adding music, opinions, posts about whatever your interests are. Right? Shift the paradigm.

Biden will always have "Ze Russians" to fall back in if any thing goes wrong lol. What a fucking mess. 

Trolling, Trolling...Trolling On Ze River...

Mario Knows A Dictator When He Sees One

"I've been a Republican for over 40 years. I did not vote for Donald Trump in 2016. I immigrated to the United States from a place with a history of dictatorships and oppressors. Citizens were persecuted. There was no freedom of speech. I know a dictator when I see one."

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zxMa80tVeIU

THANK YOU Jamspace -  on point indeed  

it has been challenging to uplift / our world with no live music happening  and the current maladies

and I contribute to the troll master by responding  - falling into the trap ( and finding him intriguingly pathetic and sad / demented, as well as part of the illness our country is enduring) even if I ignore 90% of his BS) I also have fed the bernie boy trolls as well at times - but to a lesser degree ( as they appear to be more rational )

MUSIC, ART, ACTS of kindness and kinship, travels, science, wizardry and magic must come to the fore - I will try to contribute to some positivity and the TRIBE

love to all

god bless music, love and arts

     I'd challenge anyone to refute the discussion points of the article...I'll wait.

     Biden is a thief in the night and that's being irrefutably disclosed as you're reading these words.

     https://youtu.be/L42AnSAdzXw

     [[[safespace]]]

He's a piece of shit. Whenever I see his name I ignore. I wish everyone else would too. Maybe he would just disappear.   I usually don't believe in censorship, but garbage is garbage. It should not be here. Period.

     Name-calling notwithstanding...readers may note the lack of a substantive rebuttal.

     https://youtu.be/km2MlSothJc

     #censorship

Since we are into rerun season on the Hunter Burisma episode this close to the election, it is safe to say the Trumpets are out of any substantive materials. So it is increasingly looking like Trump is pretty unlikely to get a helpful October Surprise at this point. News outlets not covering it is out of respect to viewers who don’t want to see such a poorly orchestrated attempt at a story.

Time to get some new material, champ... although I’m sure the pages are sticking together pretty good for ya right now. I know you were very excited that this was going to amount to something. Sorry it hasn’t played out so well...

The October surprise will be Barr releasing Hillary's emails. 
 

Welcome to the bottom of the barrel 

The October surprise will be Barr Bry releasing Hillary's emails. 

So what if Monsanto owned both Pepsi & Coca - Cola,  and had "RC Cola" as the Dark - Horse product,  like the "Peace & Freedom Party" ??

Or even if they owned Kraft Macaroni & Cheese box-food and also the alternative "Annie's Bunny Mac & Cheese" box-food ?

But then,  it turns out that the Estonians own all of those brands,  with German holding companies in between...

     Fish, respectfully...if you think the Post story is simply evaporating into the ether you've seldom been more mistaken, at least in regards to your observations I've been privileged to on this forum.  The story of the Biden family as a criminal syndicate is developing in real-time, try to keep up.

     As for the censorship dynamic to the saga, I thought this morning's Wall Street Journal had an interesting take...

The story might not change voters’ minds. President Trump has tried and failed to make Hunter’s Burisma dealings a campaign issue. [...if I may interject, that was before there was indisputable smoking gun evidence that Joe was being financially compensated to shape United States foreign policy -Bryen] Yet Twitter preemptively sprang to the defense of the Democratic nominee, taking extraordinary steps to stop Americans from reading it.

Users who tried to share the link to the Post story were shown a message that they couldn’t do so. The New York Post’s Twitter account with 1.8 million followers was shut down, as was White House spokesperson Kayleigh McEnany’s; the “Team Trump” campaign account; and even that of Politico journalist Jake Sherman.

Twitter says it acted because the Post story violated its “hacked materials” policy. It’s true that the provenance of the story is open for debate and scrutiny—the Post says a laptop with the emails was delivered to a Delaware repair shop, and that the owner gave them to Donald Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani. Notably, the Biden campaign has not explicitly denied the authenticity of the emails.

Liberals say without evidence that it’s a disinformation operation—which is not out of the question. The Senate Homeland Security Committee is “in the process of validating the information,” Chairman Ron Johnson told Fox

The problem is that if Twitter has a policy against “content obtained without authorization,” as the company added, it has a policy against journalism—especially journalism in the Trump era. In 2017 and 2018 the Justice Department fielded 208 criminal referrals for leaks of classified information, more than three times as many as in the prior two years. Stories based on Administration leaks, including about national security matters, have circulated widely on Twitter.

Such stories ought to be read with a skeptical eye. But Twitter would never think of canceling the account of a news outlet reporting on the 2017 leaked emails from the Environmental Protection Agency, for example. The site allowed feverish falsehoods about Brett Kavanaugh to circulate as Democrats sought to sink his Supreme Court nomination.

Even the most partisan Democrat can see Twitter’s aggressive editorial discretion to silence journalism is not neutrally applied. The company has a progressive agenda and is willing to use its substantial powers over America’s elite information landscape to advance that agenda. It won’t always work; this particular stunt may have increased the circulation of the Post story because the suppression was so outrageous. But it’s an ominous sign of what is to come if Americans become inured to such Big Tech behavior.

The Big Tech bias against conservatives is deep and broad. Dick Costolo, Twitter’s previous CEO, tweeted recently that “me-first capitalists who think you can separate society from business are going to be the first people lined up against the wall and shot in the revolution. I’ll happily provide video commentary.” Shot?

Silicon Valley executives may be surprised in 2021 at the fury and contempt in which they are held by the Democrats’ anticapitalist left-wing. But they shouldn’t be surprised if the free-market Republicans they censor are unwilling to use an ounce of political capital to protect them from a command economy.

Beware of politicians pitching one-size-fits-all policy approaches to this problem. Repealing the liability protections of Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act could make companies’ censorship trigger-finger even more twitchy; government content moderators could be even more abusive; and smashing the companies with antitrust wouldn’t change Silicon Valley’s extreme progressive ideology. Yet we’re open to reforms, and Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas released an interesting opinion this week on how courts have interpreted Section 230 too broadly.

Beyond policy, a free society can’t survive if its people aren’t committed to it and are willing to justify anything to get power. Silicon Valley's partisan interference flies in the face of American instincts about democracy, fair play, and the spirit of the First Amendment. A successful Senate hearing next week will expose the depth of the ideological ugliness that is taking place, and what is at stake if Big Tech executives abuse their status to limit American political debate.

Wall Street Journal Editorial Board 

October 16th, 2020

>> The story of the Biden family as a criminal syndicate is developing in real-time, <<

derp

His son is a shit-bag, but Joe's squeaky clean. If he wasn't you'd be talking about Joe, and not his son or Hillary or Comey or Brennan.

How'd that unmasking thing turn out, Bry? Looks like the Durham probe with have the same results.

Sorry it wasn’t the explosive story you were predicting it to be. I know you were really looking forward to the told ya sos

     First of all, I don't expect you guys to be fully up to speed on the developments, so don't feel as if I'm being critical of anyone personally, I think until this week's revelations it was widely regarded as a Hunter Biden story, that was before the emails [that by the way, the campaign hasn't denied the authenticity of] shined a light on the fact that Joe was directly compensated to the tune of millions...it is now the Joe Biden story.

This story?

The bombshell story of Hunter Biden’s computer goes something like this: Rudy Giuliani was strolling around in Wilmington one day when he noticed a hard drive lying on the sidewalk. When he hooked it up, it turned out to be full of incriminating evidence about Hunter Biden’s lobbying for a Ukrainian energy company, along with some risque photos. What luck! So he gave it to the FBI and turned over a copy to his pals at the New York Post, who put it all on their front page.

OK, that’s not exactly how it happened. But it might as well be, since the actual story is hardly any more believable. 

https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2020/10/is-rudy-giuliani-a-russia...

The October fizzle...

And one rainy afternoon,  I saw klexa and bryen fellating the Mule (actually a Donkey) out in the Barnyard.

Donkey seemed to enjoy it,  but I had to point out the "No Trespassing" signs near the road.

They claimed that it looked like a Petting Zoo,  and I didn't call the cops.

It's more complex,  but it was not actually my Donkey,  and their beliefs and personal religion are protected by law.  I don't really care if they blow Donkeys... 

What bugs me is that they trespassed upon my property and behaved poorly.

Story is on CNN and other stations.

Stu, what are you doing to get out the Biden vote in the Jersey hinterlands? 

Most of us explore multiple news and media entertainment sources daily so your breaking news stories are hardly ever the “you heard it here first” kind of topics you think you are bringing us. We have the same internet that you do and most educated people explore counterpoint views to their own. It’s just that most of us are able to reach reasonable independent conclusions about such things on our own without having to fall Into the trap that you seem to frequently find yourself in. 

     Fish, for the good of the discussion...could you expand on your theory that Joe Biden being paid millions to bastardize U.S. foreign policy is of profound insignificance to voters?

     Thank you.

Strictly from the eyes of the voting public, the current administration has normalized these behaviors while at the same time telling the public that the media is not to be trusted so in a sense they made their own bed. From my personal beliefs, “believe none of what you hear and less of what you see.” Don’t think for a moment you are not being carefully played throughout. cut the strings 

     I see, I suppose we'll find out soon enough...I'm curious as to your own thoughts, you're ok with that?  It's fairly irrefutable at this point to anyone paying the slightest modicum of attention, you're ok with that treasonous behavior?

     Again, thank you...I appreciate your candor.
 

the doctor is out lololol

how many "o"  s are in fool? tool? drool?
 

good luck in life

Irrefutable :

you are beyond wrong

blinded by the light?, or just a dark soul?  Your tribe is ill very ill, dark and fair to say: evil