As much as i love a hop bomb, the genre has become a bit absurd, with beers named Hopacalypse, Hopasauraus, and other silly names signifying an extreme use of hops. It's almost as if any amateur brewer can devise a recipe utilzing the latest hop varietal with a amped-up IBU and think they're some brewing rock star as a result. Now i get there's a fine art to making a hugely hopped beer that is drinkable, take for instance Russian River's Pliny the Elder. However, there's a shitload of crappy overly hopped IPA's out there with stupid names and ridiculous labels.
On the other hand, the art that goes into making a quality Weissbier like the Franziskaner beer out of Germany or a Spaten lager is like drinking a piece of history. Quality ingredients, time honored traditions, drinkability factor cannot be under estimated.
I'm currently sipping on a Narragansett Lager, and it's delicious. Goes much better with a meal than say, Hop Monster IPA.
Cheers to the purveyors of non-hopped up beers!
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on Sunday, November 18, 2018 – 03:57 pm
Mo' malt, please.
Mo' malt, please.
I prefer a porter to some mondo-hopped thing.
That said, I did like Six Point Resin. Go fig.
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on Sunday, November 18, 2018 – 04:04 pm
This was my favorite until
This was my favorite until they changed it to this.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sycamore Slough Disco Stu
on Sunday, November 18, 2018 – 06:29 pm
Beers with no discernable Hop
Beers with no discernable Hop aroma still have plenty of Hops in there.
As an Example, many Belgian breweries use old, stale Hops in their well-respected and Delicious recipes.
They are not going for "Hop Aromatics" but rather a balance of Sweet / Bitter flavors in the product.
Beer without Hops would be sickly-sweet like "Ovaltine".
Also the Hops help prevent microbial spoilage in Beer.
I could blather on, but 99% of every Beer you ever tasted has Hops as a main ingredient.
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on Sunday, November 18, 2018 – 07:08 pm
^Yes, of course. I've never
^Yes, of course. I've never made a batch of beer without hops, and i've been homebrewing since '94. They are a most essential ingredient in any fine brew, particularly those ales being shipped from England to the Indian colony back in the old times that needed the extra protection from bacterial contamination. That's how the India Pale Ale (IPA) was born!
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on Sunday, November 18, 2018 – 07:18 pm
goses and sour beers are
goses and sour beers are whats up with the cool kids these days
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on Sunday, November 18, 2018 – 07:34 pm
Jolly Pumpkin makes the best
Jolly Pumpkin makes the best sour beers in the country, imo. Alamanac comes in 2nd.
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on Sunday, November 18, 2018 – 09:12 pm
^^ sounds like I need to
^^ sounds like I need to look for Jolly Pumpkin. Russian River makes outstanding sour beers and so does New Belgium.
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on Sunday, November 18, 2018 – 10:22 pm
Yeah, I prefer the darker,
Yeah, I prefer the darker, sweeter beers where the hops flavor does not dominate.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sycamore Slough Disco Stu
on Sunday, November 18, 2018 – 10:23 pm
So what makes a Lambic Beer
So what makes a Lambic Beer traditionally, is the Wild Airborne Yeast let in through the sliding roof over the Fermentation tanks.
The Good strain is specific to the "Brabant region" of Belgium.
Really. I can't even make this shit up.
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on Sunday, November 18, 2018 – 11:02 pm
>>>>I'm currently sipping on
>>>>I'm currently sipping on a Narragansett Lager,
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on Sunday, November 18, 2018 – 11:09 pm
Hi Neighbor - Have a Gansett!
Hi Neighbor - Have a Gansett!
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on Monday, November 19, 2018 – 01:24 am
Aus Salzburg
Aus Salzburg
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lassen No Treble No Trouble
on Monday, November 19, 2018 – 07:40 am
wild yeasts in the air that
wild yeasts in the air that ferment open vats of beer in Belgium tripped me out the first time i heard it.
need to find a store that carries Rochefort 10. it's a quadruple Trappist Belgian ale brewed by Trappist monks. 11.3% ABV
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on Monday, November 19, 2018 – 10:58 am
Upslope Craft Lager is my go
Upslope Craft Lager is my go-to non-hop.
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on Monday, November 19, 2018 – 11:20 am
Half Full Brewing Company in
Half Full Brewing Company in Stamford CT puts out this gem. I love em, everything they make I can hang with which is never the case. The "Bright" is exceptionally crisp and drinkable.
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on Monday, November 19, 2018 – 05:01 pm
I am a fan of dark beers,
I am a fan of dark beers, especially baltic porters, and even stouts that are kind of roasty and aren't flavored with peanut butter. I am also a huge fan of saisons, but these days everyone is busy overly tarting up their "farmhouse ales" and saisons. It must be hard to make a great tasting saison without putting a sour patch kid in it.
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on Monday, November 19, 2018 – 05:09 pm
Stouts and porters are my
Stouts and porters are my game - but I have never had a stout that was flavored with peanut butter. Sounds kinda' gross, actually.
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on Monday, November 19, 2018 – 05:29 pm
>>> I am also a huge fan of
>>> I am also a huge fan of saisons, but these days everyone is busy overly tarting up their "farmhouse ales" and saisons. It must be hard to make a great tasting saison without putting a sour patch kid in it.
That’s one of many reasons Hill Farmstead is voted best brewery in the world every year. Among all of the innovative beers he makes, he makes several simple stellar saisons that you can grab regularly for $10 a bottle. Generous price for the quality.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D. Portland_ken
on Monday, November 19, 2018 – 05:34 pm
>>>>I am a fan of dark beers,
>>>>I am a fan of dark beers, especially baltic porters
Baltic porters are hands down my favorite style. I was in Poland this past summer and was spoiled by the variety, quality, and price of their porters.
>>>>everyone is busy overly tarting up their "farmhouse ales"
Ugh. Fruity, yeasty, sour beers are just nasty IMHO. Maybe its just that I have had so many bad homebrew mistakes that the stuff turns me off.
But back to the topic of non-hoppy lagers, only time I drink those is when I am in Central America and the Caribbean. Its not that the sweltering heat of the tropics drives me a lighter brew, its just that you often can't find a proper ale in those parts (with the exception of the former British colonies like Belize and some of the Caribbean islands). That being said Toña from Nicaragua isn't bad:
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on Monday, November 19, 2018 – 05:37 pm
6, any Porter recommendations
6, any Porter recommendations? thx
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on Monday, November 19, 2018 – 05:41 pm
Ken
Ken
I'm going to Chile>Patagonia>Argentina in 31 days (but who's counting) any recommendations?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D. Portland_ken
on Monday, November 19, 2018 – 06:00 pm
>>>>I'm going to Chile
>>>>I'm going to Chile>Patagonia>Argentina in 31 days
Haven't been there yet, but going in March. Zoner "Javs Corner" is an expat living in Santiago. He offered some advice on the "Vacation" thread from a few weeks ago so you should check in with him.
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on Monday, November 19, 2018 – 06:11 pm
The monks outside of Munich
The monks outside of Munich know their shit. Hard to find here but they are distributed in the US now. Great place for a visit if you are ever in Bavaria.
https://andechs.de/en/brewery/
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on Monday, November 19, 2018 – 06:27 pm
The over hopped beer is just
The over hopped beer is just the latest in the line of food and drink that came from Americans slowly discovering things with a taste and then going overboard. When you think about where America was food and drink wise in the 50’s and 60’s everything was bland and tasteless. Folgers, Budweiser, White Zin, and Hershey’s Chocolate. As Americans discovered taste they went overboard in the opposite direction. Pete’s coffee, Napa Cabernet, and IPA’s. All of those things are fun and have their place, but so many people think that bold means good when it just means bold.
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on Monday, November 19, 2018 – 06:41 pm
Modern Times' ICE...
Modern Times' ICE...
killer lager.
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on Monday, November 19, 2018 – 07:29 pm
Picked up a 4-pack of Dragon
Picked up a 4-pack of Dragon's Milk Bourbon Barrel Aged Stout from New Holland Brewing. Lots of complexity in this one, dark chocolate, cherries, oak.. real good and packs a punch at 11%.
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on Monday, November 19, 2018 – 08:18 pm
One of the best deals in beer
One of the best deals in beer these days is a beer called "Black Boss". It is a Polish baltic porter. It is roasty toasty and 9.4%. A .5 liter bottle costs $2.99. Nothing fancy, but solid. A little higher ABV than I usually go for but I can't pass up a good beer bargain.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D. Portland_ken
on Monday, November 19, 2018 – 08:30 pm
>>>>"Black Boss".
>>>>"Black Boss".
Yes. A staple around here.
I am drinking this while getting ready for the Fleetwood Mac show:
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on Monday, November 19, 2018 – 10:43 pm
All Fort Point beers are
All Fort Point beers are overpriced and underwhelming. For some reason the tech douchebags love to pay extra for that $12 a 6 pack swill in cans.
That is all
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Is forgiveness possible? Number 6
on Tuesday, November 20, 2018 – 07:25 am
>>6, any Porter
>>6, any Porter recommendations? thx
Stone makes a great smoked porter - and while were talking smoked Porters, try Founders Burnside a smoked Brown Ale that drinks like a Porter. Founders regular Porter is solid as well. Four Quarters makes a great sea salt Baltic Porter. Ballast Point Victory at Sea - and hey, while we're talking west coast - Anchor Steam makes a great Porter. My favorite is most likely Everett by Hill Farmstead (but I'm probably very biased to Vermont beers, so...)
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on Tuesday, November 20, 2018 – 07:47 am
^Sorry to interject, but
^Sorry to interject, but Smuttynose robust porter is very tasty.
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on Tuesday, November 20, 2018 – 08:05 am
I've had Ballast Point's
I've had Ballast Point's Victory at Sea and Anchor Porter, both solid. Will check out the others.
My first Porter was Sammy Smith's Taddy Porter- i'll have to pick up some up to see if it is as good as i remember it being.
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on Tuesday, November 20, 2018 – 10:04 am
I too like a well crafted
I too like a well crafted Pils, and lager. There is a reason most descriptions say "balanced hops". A pils takes longer to brew, no? I think there is a beer for most occasions. And can we stop with the fruit beers and triple bocks? If I wanted to drink sherry I would. Nyeh so there.
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on Tuesday, November 20, 2018 – 02:09 pm
>>A pils takes longer to brew
>>A pils takes longer to brew, no?
Longer than an IPA, for sure. That's a big part of why there are so many IPAs out there - they are the easiest beer (ale) to brew and brew consistently.
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on Tuesday, November 20, 2018 – 02:13 pm
Also - if you like coffee
Also - IPAs are more forgiving about off-flavors. Generous amounts of hops often cover up minor mistakes in the flavor and bouquet.
Now, if you like coffee taste in your beer - believe it or not this is a nice coffee porter:
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on Tuesday, November 20, 2018 – 03:03 pm
Brown ales, Porters, Stouts
Brown Ales, Porters, Stouts and Dark Lagers are for me.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lassen No Treble No Trouble
on Tuesday, November 20, 2018 – 06:58 pm
My Thanksgiving Beer haul:
My Thanksgiving Beer haul:
2 bottles Rochefort 10 Trappist Ales
2 bottles Rochefort 8 Trappist Ales
2 bottles Rochefort 6 Trappist Ales
1 bottle Westmalle Trappist Ale
4-pack Two Roads Christmas Ale
6-pack Harpoon Dunkin Donuts Porter
6-pack Bell's Oberon Wheat Ale
Very thankful indeed.. cheers
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on Friday, November 23, 2018 – 12:05 pm
Grandpas 90+ Medals since
The List
Grandpas 90+ Medals since 2013
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on Saturday, November 24, 2018 – 07:23 am
>>2 bottles Rochefort 10
>>2 bottles Rochefort 10 Trappist Ales
2 bottles Rochefort 8 Trappist Ales
2 bottles Rochefort 6 Trappist Ales
Rochefort is consistently on point. Love them.
And glad to see you tried the DD porter - not bad for $8.99 a sixer.