Jerome Corsi telling Mueller to take a flying leap this afternoon was a seismic event, the silence is deafening on CNN, it's up there with throwing tea in the harbor, a true patriot!
Jerome Corsi has promoted conspiracy theories about the 9/11 attacks, the Kennedy assassination and President Barack Obama’s birthplace.
Corsi authored several books, including “The Obama Nation” in 2008 and “Where’s the Birth Certificate?” in 2011, which detailed conspiracy theories about Obama. Corsi has argued that Obama is a drug-using Muslim who was born in Kenya and ascribes to “black liberation theology.”
Investigators are reportedly looking into whether Corsi linked Stone with Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks.
Roger Stone associate Jerome Corsi rejected Mueller deal. The key question is whether and how Stone knew that WikiLeaks planned to release emails Russian hackers extracted from Democrats, including former Hillary Clinton campaign manager John Podesta. A tweet that Stone wrote in August 2016 — prior to the release of the emails — appears to suggest that he knew that something was coming.
“Trust me, it will soon the Podesta’s time in the barrel,” Stone wrote.
Stone has also admitted that during the 2016 campaign, he corresponded with “Guccifer 2.0,” an online persona that the Mueller investigation determined was used by at least one Russian intelligence operative which claimed to have hacked the Democrats.
So now Corsi is gonna bring Meuller down? Seriously?
>> Dave, Bryen is saying that this investigation lacks teeth and will be unable to remove Trump from office.
Even humble me understands that. My confusion is that he seems to think that Jerome Corsi’s actions will help prove that Meuller’s case will fall apart.
Thanks Knotesau...what I'm actually saying is this has been a coup d'état since day one, history will paint it as such, and school children will marvel at the gullibility of the vast majority of this message board.
I think that's kinda cool, honestly. I mean, even if these school kids are laughing at how gullible the zone is, we still made it into some kind of historically significant reference. Wow. Way to go.
Curious if any of you see CNN for what it is...that's a basic litmus test, you do see it, don't you? Realizing 85% of the country is oblivious to the operation, but I somehow expect more from this group.
Interesting comment I heard last night was: What could be more ominous than life in the federal pen for Manafort to risk lying more? He had no dis-incentive to lay out the truth once the plea deal was set; they said he would not face any new charges regardless of what he unveiled. In fact, telling the truth would have minimized his prison sentence.
I doubt Trump will be criminally liable. His refusal to use email over his lifetime might be a good call (his Twitter account, not so much).
Idiots like Manafort and Stone and Corsi will twist to save their beloved leader. Trump Jr is the one I'm watching. He's not very smart.
There was a theory I just read about Mueller knowing that Manafort was lying, and also knowing that Manafort was conspiring with Trump to mislead the investigation. The theory goes that after Mueller received his written answers from Trump he then decided to go after Manafort for lying. Only an arrogant fool like Trump could fall for such a trap, so yeah it's a good working theory.
tRump won't be able to pardon anyone until after 2020 election if he cares to win. And, if he loses Mr. Manafort made a very bad decision staying loyal to the trumpster fire (after several other bad decisions).
But, what do I know ... I'm just brainwashed sheeple. #SAD
>>>>>>tRump won't be able to pardon anyone until after 2020 election if he cares to win. And, if he loses Mr. Manafort made a very bad decision staying loyal to the trumpster fire (after several other bad decisions)
I read the Mueller investigation wont be done till late 2019
It is pretty much a given during any cooperation meetings that the feds know more than they are saying. Half the questions will be ones they already know the answer to, just to test your truthfulness. If that's the case for a garden variety drug deal, you know Meuller has a whoooole lot of info that he's not telling Manafort.
>WASHINGTON — A lawyer for Paul Manafort, the president’s onetime campaign chairman, repeatedly briefed President Trump’s lawyers on his client’s discussions with federal investigators after Mr. Manafort agreed to cooperate with the special counsel, according to one of Mr. Trump’s lawyers and two other people familiar with the conversations...
...Even if the pact was mostly informal at that point, law enforcement experts said it was still highly unusual for Mr. Manafort’s lawyers to keep up such contacts once their client had pledged to help the prosecutors in hope of a lighter punishment for his crimes.
Mr. Manafort must have wanted to keep a line open to the president in hope of a pardon, said Barbara McQuade, a former United States attorney who now teaches law at University of Michigan. “I’m not able to think of another reason,” she said.
If Mr. Manafort wanted to stay on the prosecutors’ good side, “it would make no sense for him to continue to share information with other subjects of the investigation,” said Chuck Rosenberg, a former United States attorney and senior F.B.I. official. He added: “He is either all in or all out with respect to cooperation. Typically, there is no middle ground.”
>>>>>>>You don't need a "conviction" when you plead guilty.
He plead guilty in federal court.
Pretty sure he needs to be charged and tried in a state court for the scenario of him not getting pardoned to be accurate. Anybody smarter than TOD or I know?
So through some quick research he has only plead guilty to 3 charges. He plead guilty to two charges of conspiracy against the U.S. and conspiracy to obstruct justice.
Trump is losing it because he just turned in his written answers to Mueller. The answers were composed from info that Manafort gave to trumps lawyers. Why do you think Mueller waited to accuse Manafort of lying until Trump finished his written report. Whats the chances that trump knows his goose is cooked? I believe he got played by the special counsel. Its all sinking in now, therefore potus is tweeting like a mental patient.
my understanding is as part of the plea, he admitted committing those crimes in a few states. IF he is pardoned, the cases can be pursued at the state level...
Right. So he could still be charged in State court but he hasn’t already pleaded or been found guilty of anything at the State level like TOD suggests.
>>>Trump is losing it because he just turned in his written answers to Mueller. The answers were composed from info that Manafort gave to trumps lawyers. Why do you think Mueller waited to accuse Manafort of lying until Trump finished his written report. Whats the chances that trump knows his goose is cooked? I believe he got played by the special counsel. Its all sinking in now, therefore potus is tweeting like a mental patient.
Take a step back, and another step back, take a step back...look at the big picture, Mueller has "process crimes" and the theory that somebody possibly surmised that Julian Assange had Podesta's emails.
Michael Cohen just pled guilty to making false statements to congress about the Russia probe.
Paul Manafort has blown his deal to cooperate with special counsel by lying repeatedly to investigators.
Plus Manfort’s lawyers remained in contact with Trump’s lawyers after Manfort agreed to cooperate.
Donald says pardoning Manfort is an option still on the table.
Meanwhile, Donald tweeted a cartoon of “The Trump Train,” showing the Clintons, Obama and Mueller all behind bars. Alongside them are former FBI Director James Comey, former Attorneys General Eric Holder, Loretta Lynch, and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who Trump appointed himself.
Here's the long and the short of it...if you aren't a minion of the deep state, and happen to be elected president, the powers that be will stop at nothing to remove you from office.
Who cares if someone caught wind of the fact that Assange had Podesta's emails? If Assange had the emails, Assange had the emails...it matters not if someone figured that out or didn't, he still had the emails, the entire investigation seems to hinge on whether or not Stone had advance knowledge of that, who cares if he did? Roger Stone either knowing about it or not knowing about it is Watergate 2.0? Really? If Assange had the emails, Assange had the emails...Roger Stone knowing about it is inconsequential.
Please acknowledge that we know a very small fraction of what MuellerCo knows and has documented, corroborated etc. Please acknowledge that.
It's coordination, Basket Bryen (colluding, conspiring, whatevs) . Don Jr in one of his email revealed over a year ago stated that he'd prefer the Clinton/Podesta email dump to be in October. If the Trump campaign was coordinating the timing with Wiki and, by default, the Russians that did the hack, I'd hope that you and most Americans would have a huge problem with that.
Now we're discussing "timing", that's the thing you hope will unseat a duly elected president...the "timing" of when Assange [who hated Clinton by the way, because she's a war monger and the purpose of Wikileaks is to expose such actors] decided to publish the emails?
Yes, we're discussing a "conspiracy" to work with "foreign actors" on the "timing" of "illegally hacked emails" in order to "influence a presidential election". You're so deep in the weeds that you can't come to grips that ANY other campaign would have immediately reported the existence of the hacked emails to the FBI.
You seem a little on edge today, Bryen. Reality starting to settle in?
Funny how you and your ilk really think this is about sour grapes, or trying to "steal" back the White House. It's none of that, it's holding crooks (alleged! lol) accountable.
There should be visitation logs at the Ecuadorian embassy as well as all kinds of cctv footage showing Manafort entering & leaving. Wouldn't be hard to prove or disprove the latest proclamations
Cohen lied to congress. Mueller will use this to squeeze the truth out of him by dangling reduced sentence. They will not believe anything he says without corroboration. You know how this works, Bryen....don't be so obtuse.
Remember when Trump claimed no one from his campaign had any contact with any Russian? He has no credability.
Meanwhile over at Fox on the day that Trumps personal attorney plead guilty to lying to congress about Trumps business dealings in Russia the top stories are;
Mexico Murder
NY Mayor Booed
Mansion Murders
Mystery From the Deep
Then if you scroll down on the page you will see that Mueller Squeezes ex-Trump lawyer. I wonder how many times a brown person plead guilty to a crime and Fox said they were being squeezed by the prosecutor
Sure, like the 2020 democrat nominee won't be a complete scumbag...that seems highly unlikely, it would certainly be a radical departure from the recent past.
"There should be visitation logs at the Ecuadorian embassy as well as all kinds of cctv footage showing Manafort entering & leaving. Wouldn't be hard to prove or disprove the latest proclamations"
My father was a career diplomat for almost 40 years. I've been in and out of embassies my entire life and the ONLY embassy that's ever recorded my entry anywhere was the American one.
The Guardian repprted the Ecuadorian embassy in London has been under 24/7 surveillance (by UK) since Assange has been hiding out there. Nobody is getting in/out without it being logged.
Harvard Law School professor emeritus Alan Dershowitz on Thursday suggested Michael Cohen's plea deal with Robert Mueller is another example of how special counsels can find wrongdoing where it doesn't necessarily exist.
"I think the weakness of Mueller’s substantive findings are suggested by the fact that he has to resort to false statement prosecutions, which really shows that he didn’t start with very much, and that the very fact that he’s conducting an investigation has created these crimes," Dershowitz, a frequent critic of Mueller's federal Russia probe, told Fox News.
“These are not crimes that had been committed prior to his appointment," he said. "They’re crimes that were committed as the result of his appointment, and that raises some questions about the role of special prosecutors in creating crimes, or creating opportunities for crimes to be committed."
I understand there will be a mad scramble to rationalize your gullibility as your precious Russia myth evaporates into the ether, by all means, please continue.
Let me attempt to put it another way, this whole ordeal is rapidly dissolving into thin air, this will obviously be a difficult time for the millions of people that allowed the Russia collusion narrative to shape their worldview, that is to be expected. The days ahead will be interesting, that is for sure...don't blame yourself if you're one of the countless Hillary supporters who bought into this fairytale, a lot of well educated, intelligent people are in the same predicament. I realize I'm a minority of one here, so by all means, feel free to direct your frustration towards me if that helps you get through what must be a challenging period, I completely understand.
The Trump Organization Planned To Give Vladimir Putin The $50 Million Penthouse In Trump Tower Moscow
During the presidential campaign, Michael Cohen discussed the matter with a representative of Putin’s press secretary, according to two US sources.
President Donald Trump’s company planned to give a $50 million penthouse at Trump Tower Moscow to Russian President Vladimir Putin as the company negotiated the luxury real estate development during the 2016 campaign, according to four people, one of them the originator of the plan.
The Russian government was conducting a multi faceted attack on America, our people, our agencies and Trump was offering Putin a $50 million penthouse.
The wheels are really starting to fall off the Trump train at a rapidly exceeding rate. hope Ivanka is holding up okay?
Also, it's been fun watching bryen get roasted from the likes of long time lurkers, normal zoner folk,, and masters such as Nancy, who has spent her life's work slaying guys like him.
The wheels are really starting to fall off the Trump train at a rapidly exceeding rate. hope Ivanka is holding up okay?<<<<
A couple of hours ago, Trump tweeted:
As RNC Chair Ronna McDaniel oversaw history defying gains in the Senate and unprecedented fundraising strength. I have asked her to serve another term for my 2020 re-elect, because there is no one better for the job!
^ clearly Trump is unfazed and is looking to the future (rolls eyes).
Provoking New Crimes Rather than Uncovering Past Crimes: Mueller's Modus Operandi
by Alan M. Dershowitz November 30, 2018
* Even if Mueller could prove that members of the Trump team had colluded with Julian Assange to use material that Assange had unlawfully obtained, that, too, would not be a crime.
* Merely using the product of an already committed theft of information is not a crime. If you don't believe me, ask the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Guardian and other newspapers that used material illegally obtained by Assange with full knowledge that it was illegally obtained.
* In the end, Mueller should be judged by how successful he has been in satisfying his central mission. Judged by that standard and based on what we now know, he seems to be an abysmal failure.
The recent guilty plea of Michael Cohen of lying represents the dominant trend in Mueller's approach to prosecution. The vast majority of indictments and guilty pleas obtained against Americans by Mueller have not been for substantive crimes relating to his mandate: namely, to uncover crimes involving illegal contacts with Russia. They have involved indictments and guilty pleas either for lying, or for financial crimes by individuals unrelated to the Russia probe. If this remains true after the filing of the Mueller report, it would represent a significant failure on Mueller's part.
Mueller was appointed Special Counsel not to provoke individuals into committing new crimes, but rather to uncover past crimes specifically involving alleged illegal coordination between the Trump campaign and Russian agents. No one doubted that Russia attempted to influence the 2020 election in favor of Donald Trump and against Hillary Clinton. But Mueller's mandate was not to prosecute Russians or to point the finger at Vladimir Putin. His mandate was to uncover crimes committed by the Trump campaign with regard to Russia's attempts to influence the election.
It was always an uphill struggle for Mueller, since collusion itself is not a crime. In other words, even if he could show that individuals in the Trump campaign had colluded with Russian agents to help elect Trump, that would be a serious political sin, but not a federal crime. Even if Mueller could prove that members of the Trump team had colluded with Julian Assange to use material that Assange had unlawfully obtained, that, too, would not be a crime. What would be a crime is something that no one claims happened: namely, that members of the Trump campaign told Assange to hack the Democratic National Committee before Assange did so. Merely using the product of an already committed theft of information is not a crime. If you don't believe me, ask the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Guardian and other newspapers that used material illegally obtained by Assange with full knowledge that it was illegally obtained. Not only did they use information from Assange, but also from Chelsea Manning and from the stolen Pentagon Papers. The First Amendment protects publication by the media of stolen information. It also protects use of such information by a political campaign, since political campaigns are also covered by the First Amendment.
It is important to note that Special Counsel Robert Mueller does not have a roving commission to ferret out political sin, to provoke new crimes, or to publish non-criminal conclusions that may be embarrassing to the President. His mandate, like that of every other prosecutor, is to uncover past crimes. In Mueller's case those crimes must relate to Russia. He also has the authority to prosecute crimes growing out of the Russia probe, but that is collateral to his central mission. In the end, Mueller should be judged by how successful he has been in satisfying his central mission. Judged by that standard and based on what we now know, he seems to be an abysmal failure.
Perhaps more will come out when his report is published, but it is unlikely that he uncovered anything dramatically new with regard to allegations that the Trump campaign acted illegally in an attempt to help Russia undercut Hillary Clinton's campaign. Even if the report alleges uncharged criminal behavior, it must be remembered that much of what will be in the report are merely allegations based on uncross-examined evidence. Some of that evidence seems to come from admitted liars, who have pleaded guilty for lying. These liars would make poor witnesses in an actual trial, but if their evidence serves as a basis for conclusions reached in the Mueller report, then these conclusions may seem more credible than they actually are. We must, of course, wait for the publication of the Mueller report before reaching any final judgments, but if the Mueller report merely catalogues all the guilty pleas and indictments achieved thus far for lying and unrelated financial crimes, and tries to build a case of guilt by association around them, the American public will be justly critical of the process.
"Mueller was appointed Special Counsel not to provoke individuals into committing new crimes, but rather to uncover past crimes specifically involving alleged illegal coordination between the Trump campaign and Russian agents."
So what’s your point? You do realize that whatever a Special prosecutor turns up is fair game. See Ken Starr. Oh, it ain’t over yet, no need to rush on declaring Trump innocent of collusion, unless that makes you feel good.
The point is, we've reached a watershed moment where you'll increasingly notice the narrative "pivot" from claims that the president is guilty of a crime, to those around him being guilty of process crimes...those transgressions will be rationalized a thousand different ways as justification for the biggest scam in political history.
Bryen, you can't possibly know if Trump has committed any crimes or not. I know you can't believe he could do anything wrong, but we'll see about that.
Bryen, please give us your rating on Trump's performance to date - great, good, so-so, bad, terrible.
Surf, what I'm saying is observe the transition, you'll notice subtle changes at first, pundits have already started moving the goalposts, you'll see...this will be rationalized as "even though there wasn't proof of x, y or z...it's still good we sabotaged the presidency", it's been a complete scam since day one and history will paint it as such.
To answer your question, considering the alternative I think we dodged a bullet as a nation & possibly a civilization...realizing the tyranny he's had to endure, I'd say he's doing a pretty good job.
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Maybe he likes jail better
Maybe he likes jail better than polonium.
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Will he be available for the
Will he be available for the 2020 election?
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The fucking balls on this guy
The fucking balls on this guy, huh?
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Jerome Corsi telling Mueller
Jerome Corsi telling Mueller to take a flying leap this afternoon was a seismic event, the silence is deafening on CNN, it's up there with throwing tea in the harbor, a true patriot!
it's happening...the scam is unraveling!!!!!
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Corsi has promoted conspiracy
Jerome Corsi has promoted conspiracy theories about the 9/11 attacks, the Kennedy assassination and President Barack Obama’s birthplace.
Corsi authored several books, including “The Obama Nation” in 2008 and “Where’s the Birth Certificate?” in 2011, which detailed conspiracy theories about Obama. Corsi has argued that Obama is a drug-using Muslim who was born in Kenya and ascribes to “black liberation theology.”
Investigators are reportedly looking into whether Corsi linked Stone with Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks.
Roger Stone associate Jerome Corsi rejected Mueller deal. The key question is whether and how Stone knew that WikiLeaks planned to release emails Russian hackers extracted from Democrats, including former Hillary Clinton campaign manager John Podesta. A tweet that Stone wrote in August 2016 — prior to the release of the emails — appears to suggest that he knew that something was coming.
“Trust me, it will soon the Podesta’s time in the barrel,” Stone wrote.
Stone has also admitted that during the 2016 campaign, he corresponded with “Guccifer 2.0,” an online persona that the Mueller investigation determined was used by at least one Russian intelligence operative which claimed to have hacked the Democrats.
So now Corsi is gonna bring Meuller down? Seriously?
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Someone finally called the
Someone finally called the bluff, you'd think Anderson Cooper & Lester Holt would be all over that action...silence.
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Dave, Bryen is saying that
Dave, Bryen is saying that this investigation lacks teeth and will be unable to remove Trump from office.
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>> Dave, Bryen is saying that
>> Dave, Bryen is saying that this investigation lacks teeth and will be unable to remove Trump from office.
Even humble me understands that. My confusion is that he seems to think that Jerome Corsi’s actions will help prove that Meuller’s case will fall apart.
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Thanks Knotesau...what I'm
Thanks Knotesau...what I'm actually saying is this has been a coup d'état since day one, history will paint it as such, and school children will marvel at the gullibility of the vast majority of this message board.
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School children will be
School children will be taught about this message board?
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I think that's kinda cool,
I think that's kinda cool, honestly. I mean, even if these school kids are laughing at how gullible the zone is, we still made it into some kind of historically significant reference. Wow. Way to go.
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It's archived, when future
It's archived, when future generations gain an appreciation for psychedelic technology, this message board may be a point of reference.
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for the children
for the children
Jerry Garcia Band, JGB 11.23.1977 Waterbury, CT Complete Show AUD
https://youtu.be/S4kqQbKJfoM
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Pink Floyd -"Echoes" Pompeii
https://youtu.be/y-E7_VHLvkE
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Its Mueller Time..
Its Mueller Time..
See what I did there?
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It's funny how the "scene" is
It's funny how the "scene" is rooting for the deep state...the irony
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So I'm still having some
So I'm still having some trouble understanding the value of teaching kids about the Zone.
>> when future generations gain an appreciation for psychedelic technology, this message board may be a point of reference.
Uh, so the Zone will help future young ones to appreciate psychedelic technology.
OK
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People keep dying on Mueller
People keep dying on Mueller time.
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I'm starting to get that a
I'm starting to get that a lot of people on this message are simply on a message board
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John Lennon Mind Games
"LOVE IS THE ANSWER"
https://youtu.be/bVYXWVs0Prc
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Mop Tops
Mop Tops
"Love Is All You Need"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsxtImDVMig
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Its Mueller Time..
Its Mueller Time..
See what I did there?
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The Vegas Shooting was on
The Vegas Shooting was on Mueller time.
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Is obstruction as severe a
Is obstruction as severe a crime as crossing the border illegally?
Who will serve more Mueller time?
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Curious if any of you see CNN
Curious if any of you see CNN for what it is...that's a basic litmus test, you do see it, don't you? Realizing 85% of the country is oblivious to the operation, but I somehow expect more from this group.
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Bryen, Bill Hemmer and Martha
Bryen, Bill Hemmer and Martha MacCallum are on Fox.
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CNN is purely a brainwashing
CNN is purely a brainwashing operation...if you haven't figured that out, you're part of the experiment.
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I've heard you speak of CNN
I've heard you speak of CNN but you've never posted evidence to support your claim.
You are a troll and I'm comfortable with the treatment you reap from this enlightened forum.
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Can always go directly to AP,
Can always go directly to AP, UPI, or Reuters...
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You'll figure it out
You'll figure it out eventually, keep on believing Don Lemon, Anderson Cooper & Jake Tapper :)
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I heard the economy is doing
I heard the economy is doing great. Best it's ever been. Time to take care of everyone.
Open the border. We need more workers. The economy is the best it's ever been.
Everybody gets a home. Including the Hondurans.
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GM just closed 5 plants and
GM just closed 5 plants and laid off 15% of it's workforce.
Happy holidays
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Bryen believes GM is part of
Bryen believes GM is part of a coup d'état with CNN.
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Ford is having similar
Ford is having similar problems;
<< Ford Prepares for Mass Layoffs After Losing $1 Billion to Trump's Trade Tariffs, Report Says >>
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ford-prepares-mass-layoffs-losing-0026185...
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GM stock surges 5% as the
GM stock surges 5% as the plutocrats light cigars...
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Brayin', I know you're not
Brayin', I know you're not too bright, so let me explain this to you… turning down a plea deal is not an acquittal. Corsi will likely face trial.
Remember, Manafort turned down a plea deal before his trial, how did that work out for him?
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Something worth pondering:
Something worth pondering:
How does Mueller know Manafort lied?
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>>>><>I'm starting to get
>>>><>I'm starting to get that a lot of people on this message are simply on a message board
Lol.
It is a long path, Grasshopper.
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>>>>How does Mueller know
>>>>How does Mueller know Manafort lied?<<<<
Uh, maybe Rick Gates testimony?
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bryen another scared middle
bryen another scared middle aged white guy.
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https://www.theguardian.com
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/nov/27/manafort-held-secret-tal...
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Interesting comment I heard
Interesting comment I heard last night was: What could be more ominous than life in the federal pen for Manafort to risk lying more? He had no dis-incentive to lay out the truth once the plea deal was set; they said he would not face any new charges regardless of what he unveiled. In fact, telling the truth would have minimized his prison sentence.
I doubt Trump will be criminally liable. His refusal to use email over his lifetime might be a good call (his Twitter account, not so much).
Idiots like Manafort and Stone and Corsi will twist to save their beloved leader. Trump Jr is the one I'm watching. He's not very smart.
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There was a theory I just
There was a theory I just read about Mueller knowing that Manafort was lying, and also knowing that Manafort was conspiring with Trump to mislead the investigation. The theory goes that after Mueller received his written answers from Trump he then decided to go after Manafort for lying. Only an arrogant fool like Trump could fall for such a trap, so yeah it's a good working theory.
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Maybe Dump took Manafart
Maybe Dump took Manafart aside and said, don't roll on me and you will get a pardon. Can he do that?
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tRump won't be able to pardon
tRump won't be able to pardon anyone until after 2020 election if he cares to win. And, if he loses Mr. Manafort made a very bad decision staying loyal to the trumpster fire (after several other bad decisions).
But, what do I know ... I'm just brainwashed sheeple. #SAD
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>>>>>>tRump won't be able to
>>>>>>tRump won't be able to pardon anyone until after 2020 election if he cares to win. And, if he loses Mr. Manafort made a very bad decision staying loyal to the trumpster fire (after several other bad decisions)
I read the Mueller investigation wont be done till late 2019
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>don't roll on me and you
>don't roll on me and you will get a pardon. Can he do that?
not if Mueller finds out. then they both are guilty of conspiracy and lying to investigators
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I read that theory also...
I read that theory also...
Manafort is "Boxed in like a turtle's pecker".
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>>>>Something worth pondering
>>>>Something worth pondering:
>>>How does Mueller know Manafort lied?
It is pretty much a given during any cooperation meetings that the feds know more than they are saying. Half the questions will be ones they already know the answer to, just to test your truthfulness. If that's the case for a garden variety drug deal, you know Meuller has a whoooole lot of info that he's not telling Manafort.
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So Drumpf fell into a perjury
So Drumpf fell into a perjury trap anyway.
Huh.
That's pretty sweet.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/27/us/politics/manafort-lawyer-trump-coo...
>WASHINGTON — A lawyer for Paul Manafort, the president’s onetime campaign chairman, repeatedly briefed President Trump’s lawyers on his client’s discussions with federal investigators after Mr. Manafort agreed to cooperate with the special counsel, according to one of Mr. Trump’s lawyers and two other people familiar with the conversations...
...Even if the pact was mostly informal at that point, law enforcement experts said it was still highly unusual for Mr. Manafort’s lawyers to keep up such contacts once their client had pledged to help the prosecutors in hope of a lighter punishment for his crimes.
Mr. Manafort must have wanted to keep a line open to the president in hope of a pardon, said Barbara McQuade, a former United States attorney who now teaches law at University of Michigan. “I’m not able to think of another reason,” she said.
If Mr. Manafort wanted to stay on the prosecutors’ good side, “it would make no sense for him to continue to share information with other subjects of the investigation,” said Chuck Rosenberg, a former United States attorney and senior F.B.I. official. He added: “He is either all in or all out with respect to cooperation. Typically, there is no middle ground.”
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Is fancy pants still sitting
Is fancy pants still sitting in a cell?
A lot lot of time to think about those decisions
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Jerome Corsi gave the WH a
Jerome Corsi gave the WH a draft of a plea agreement prepared for him by Special Counsel Robert Mueller.
Seeing this document seems to have set off someone at the WH. Jerome seems to like the publicity big time.
Paul Manafort is doing a double agent thing. Cooperating with Mueller while telling the WH. Rudy is the source for this.
Manafort's strategy looks dependent on getting a pardon. The WH plan seems to be tp obstruct justice in plain sight.
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Manafort's strategy looks
Manafort's strategy looks dependent on getting a pardon<<<
It would seem so, but another card in the deck (albeit small) might be a fear of getting wacked.
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Yeah, nobody ever gets
Yeah, nobody ever gets “whacked” in prison. *eyeroll*
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>>> Manafort's strategy looks
>>> Manafort's strategy looks dependent on getting a pardon <<<
Mueller got Manafort to admit to "state level" crimes that mirrored the Federal crimes that he plead to.
So if Trump pardons him on a Fed level, he'll still rot in jail on state crimes.
The plea agreement may have evaporated...
But it still exists, he could comeback to the table.
Meanwhile...
Maria Butina is sitting in solitary confinement working on her deal.
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Two more years?
Two more years?
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(No subject)
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>Mueller got Manafort to
>Mueller got Manafort to admit to "state level" crimes that mirrored the Federal crimes that he plead to.
So if Trump pardons him on a Fed level, he'll still rot in jail on state crimes.<
This is correct
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what “state level” crimes has
what “state level” crimes has Manafort been convicted of?
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In his plea agreement with
In his plea agreement with Mueller, he plead to state level crimes.
You don't need a "conviction" when you plead guilty.
You're still guilty.
If Manafort breaches this agreement, he's STILL guilty.
His plea agreement is a 17 page filing.
https://www.justice.gov/file/1094151/download
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>>>>>>>You don't need a
>>>>>>>You don't need a "conviction" when you plead guilty.
He plead guilty in federal court.
Pretty sure he needs to be charged and tried in a state court for the scenario of him not getting pardoned to be accurate. Anybody smarter than TOD or I know?
Ken? Alias?
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TOD Esq.
TOD Esq.
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So through some quick
So through some quick research he has only plead guilty to 3 charges. He plead guilty to two charges of conspiracy against the U.S. and conspiracy to obstruct justice.
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Trump is losing it because he
Trump is losing it because he just turned in his written answers to Mueller. The answers were composed from info that Manafort gave to trumps lawyers. Why do you think Mueller waited to accuse Manafort of lying until Trump finished his written report. Whats the chances that trump knows his goose is cooked? I believe he got played by the special counsel. Its all sinking in now, therefore potus is tweeting like a mental patient.
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my understanding is as part
my understanding is as part of the plea, he admitted committing those crimes in a few states. IF he is pardoned, the cases can be pursued at the state level...
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Right. So he could still be
Right. So he could still be charged in State court but he hasn’t already pleaded or been found guilty of anything at the State level like TOD suggests.
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Turtle gets it.
Turtle gets it.
Those States would have to pursue it.
Manafort has already admitted to committing crimes in those States, just hasn't been charged.
So he admitted guilt without being charged.
What prosecutor wouldn't pursue that slam dunk?
Sorry for the confusion.
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>>>>>Those States would have
>>>>>Those States would have to pursue it.
I know that’s not what you were saying. You said they don’t need a conviction when he has already plead guilty.
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>>>Trump is losing it because
>>>Trump is losing it because he just turned in his written answers to Mueller. The answers were composed from info that Manafort gave to trumps lawyers. Why do you think Mueller waited to accuse Manafort of lying until Trump finished his written report. Whats the chances that trump knows his goose is cooked? I believe he got played by the special counsel. Its all sinking in now, therefore potus is tweeting like a mental patient.
^^^
https://www.thedailybeast.com/sensing-defeat-trump-cries-witch-hunt
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https://www.miamiherald.com
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article220097825.html
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Donald and underage girls?
Donald and underage girls?
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Infinite Ignorance,
Infinite Ignorance,
Take a step back, and another step back, take a step back...look at the big picture, Mueller has "process crimes" and the theory that somebody possibly surmised that Julian Assange had Podesta's emails.
So What?
You're welcome.
https://youtu.be/5qLm-cTgImE
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Michael Cohen just pled
Michael Cohen just pled guilty to making false statements to congress about the Russia probe.
Paul Manafort has blown his deal to cooperate with special counsel by lying repeatedly to investigators.
Plus Manfort’s lawyers remained in contact with Trump’s lawyers after Manfort agreed to cooperate.
Donald says pardoning Manfort is an option still on the table.
Meanwhile, Donald tweeted a cartoon of “The Trump Train,” showing the Clintons, Obama and Mueller all behind bars. Alongside them are former FBI Director James Comey, former Attorneys General Eric Holder, Loretta Lynch, and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who Trump appointed himself.
R we having fun yet?
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"process crimes" = crimes
"process crimes" = crimes committed by rich white people
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Coincidence, witch hunt, or
Coincidence, witch hunt, or fishing operation, Bryen?
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Timmy, I think you have to
Timmy, I think you have to put 'scam' as one of your options, otherwise you won't get a reply out of Bryen...
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Here's the long and the short
Here's the long and the short of it...if you aren't a minion of the deep state, and happen to be elected president, the powers that be will stop at nothing to remove you from office.
Who cares if someone caught wind of the fact that Assange had Podesta's emails? If Assange had the emails, Assange had the emails...it matters not if someone figured that out or didn't, he still had the emails, the entire investigation seems to hinge on whether or not Stone had advance knowledge of that, who cares if he did? Roger Stone either knowing about it or not knowing about it is Watergate 2.0? Really? If Assange had the emails, Assange had the emails...Roger Stone knowing about it is inconsequential.
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Please acknowledge that we
Please acknowledge that we know a very small fraction of what MuellerCo knows and has documented, corroborated etc. Please acknowledge that.
It's coordination, Basket Bryen (colluding, conspiring, whatevs) . Don Jr in one of his email revealed over a year ago stated that he'd prefer the Clinton/Podesta email dump to be in October. If the Trump campaign was coordinating the timing with Wiki and, by default, the Russians that did the hack, I'd hope that you and most Americans would have a huge problem with that.
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Now we're discussing "timing", that's the thing you hope will unseat a duly elected president...the "timing" of when Assange [who hated Clinton by the way, because she's a war monger and the purpose of Wikileaks is to expose such actors] decided to publish the emails?
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Yes, we're discussing a
Yes, we're discussing a "conspiracy" to work with "foreign actors" on the "timing" of "illegally hacked emails" in order to "influence a presidential election". You're so deep in the weeds that you can't come to grips that ANY other campaign would have immediately reported the existence of the hacked emails to the FBI.
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How do know the emails were
How do know the emails were "hacked"? Because the DNC said so?
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Please acknowledge that we
Please acknowledge that we know a very small fraction of what MuellerCo knows and has documented, corroborated etc. Please acknowledge that.
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^ blah, blah, blah
^ blah, blah, blah
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((( Basketful of Bryen )))
((( Basketful of Bryen )))
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Yeah....deep state....
Yeah....deep state....
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bryen
Your scumbag candidate lost,
Your scumbag candidate lost, get over it.
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Ironically, the Steele
Ironically, the Steele dossier is appearing to be even more accurate by the day.
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Maybe you can find a new
Maybe you can find a new scumbag candidate for 2020.
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And your scumbag president is
And your scumbag president is going down - get used to it.
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You sound desperate, Brayin'
You sound desperate, Brayin'
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^ keep dreaming, it's amusing
^ keep dreaming, it's amusing
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You seem a little on edge
You seem a little on edge today, Bryen. Reality starting to settle in?
Funny how you and your ilk really think this is about sour grapes, or trying to "steal" back the White House. It's none of that, it's holding crooks (alleged! lol) accountable.
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^ sure
^ sure
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https://youtu.be/17Ve7hbEZAk
https://youtu.be/17Ve7hbEZAk
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It's not amusing at all,
It's not amusing at all, Brayin'. Your continued support of that racist criminal is disgusting. But I'd expect nothing less from you
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get some new material
get some new material
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So much for reasonable
So much for reasonable dialogue.
Bryen is now taking his dear leader's approach by acting like a 3 year old.
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western migration = Lumber's
have a nice day
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved
You came here today to not
You came here today to not answer questions and make vague posts?
LOL
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The new material is Cohen's
The new material is Cohen's guilty plea.
Try to keep up, Brayin'
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Brayin, Blurt, and Blare.
Brayin, Blurt, and Blare.
Sounds like a law firm.
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https://twitter.com/jwgop
https://twitter.com/jwgop/status/1068166305159745536
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There should be logs at the
There should be visitation logs at the Ecuadorian embassy as well as all kinds of cctv footage showing Manafort entering & leaving. Wouldn't be hard to prove or disprove the latest proclamations
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Michael Cohen conspired with
Michael Cohen conspired with a foreign government to throw an election?
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Cohen lied to congress.
Cohen lied to congress. Mueller will use this to squeeze the truth out of him by dangling reduced sentence. They will not believe anything he says without corroboration. You know how this works, Bryen....don't be so obtuse.
Remember when Trump claimed no one from his campaign had any contact with any Russian? He has no credability.
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Meanwhile over at Fox on the
Meanwhile over at Fox on the day that Trumps personal attorney plead guilty to lying to congress about Trumps business dealings in Russia the top stories are;
Mexico Murder
NY Mayor Booed
Mansion Murders
Mystery From the Deep
Then if you scroll down on the page you will see that Mueller Squeezes ex-Trump lawyer. I wonder how many times a brown person plead guilty to a crime and Fox said they were being squeezed by the prosecutor
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Thanks Ned
thanks Ned, so it's just more process crimes...got it
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YES it's the process to get
YES it's the process to get to the truth from a room full of liars. They all lie...about everything.
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Maybe you can find a new
Maybe you can find a new scumbag candidate for 2020<<<
How does it feel to nudge the world closer to the abyss because your ego is getting the better of you?
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Sure, like the 2020 democrat
Sure, like the 2020 democrat nominee won't be a complete scumbag...that seems highly unlikely, it would certainly be a radical departure from the recent past.
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I'm going to guess that
I'm going to guess that either your spouse, boss or both are up your ass today.
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Let me know when they find
Let me know when they find out Trump colluded with Russia to throw the election, thanks
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LOL will do.
LOL will do.
Buy her (him?) some flowers.
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"There should be visitation
"There should be visitation logs at the Ecuadorian embassy as well as all kinds of cctv footage showing Manafort entering & leaving. Wouldn't be hard to prove or disprove the latest proclamations"
My father was a career diplomat for almost 40 years. I've been in and out of embassies my entire life and the ONLY embassy that's ever recorded my entry anywhere was the American one.
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The Guardian stated the
The Guardian repprted the Ecuadorian embassy in London has been under 24/7 surveillance (by UK) since Assange has been hiding out there. Nobody is getting in/out without it being logged.
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https://m.washingtontimes.com
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/nov/28/feds-control-manafort-pas...
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https://twitter.com
CNN reporter
https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1068171578305904641
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Which laws are the good ones?
Which laws are the good ones?
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National Review writer
National Review writer
https://twitter.com/DavidAFrench/status/1068171469786624002
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& just for fun, "Tea Pain"
& just for fun, "Tea Pain" with a Presidential shitshow status report:
https://twitter.com/TeaPainUSA/status/1068193569159241728
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It’s beginning to look a lot
It’s beginning to look a lot like Christmas!
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Bryan, how long are you going
Bryan, how long are you going to remain stupid? Or is it a life quest?
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Whose got my heady Mueller
Whose got my heady Mueller advent calendar of indictments?
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Harvard Law School professor emeritus Alan Dershowitz on Thursday suggested Michael Cohen's plea deal with Robert Mueller is another example of how special counsels can find wrongdoing where it doesn't necessarily exist.
"I think the weakness of Mueller’s substantive findings are suggested by the fact that he has to resort to false statement prosecutions, which really shows that he didn’t start with very much, and that the very fact that he’s conducting an investigation has created these crimes," Dershowitz, a frequent critic of Mueller's federal Russia probe, told Fox News.
“These are not crimes that had been committed prior to his appointment," he said. "They’re crimes that were committed as the result of his appointment, and that raises some questions about the role of special prosecutors in creating crimes, or creating opportunities for crimes to be committed."
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/alan-dershowitz-michael-cohen-pl...
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Lol ^
Lol ^
>...Alan Dershowitz on Thursday suggested
Dershowitz is about as sane as Rudy, and both have their heads up Trump’s ass. How’s his prostate looking, Bry?
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"Bryen" clearly thinks all of
"Bryen" clearly thinks all of this is no big deal.
"But, but Hillary!......and, and CNN!!"
Guy really seems to hate this country and wants a real strongman like Putin in the WH.
Pretty un-American.
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^ the irony
^ the irony
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Bryen LOL
Bryen LOL
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interesting tidbit from NBC:
interesting tidbit from NBC:
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1068252013706846209
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Brayin' you really should
Brayin', you really should stop, you're just confirming your stupidity
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Bry, is falling out of
Bry is falling out of character again.
Needs more hippy dippy peace and love, even if it’s as fake as he is.
Come on dude, be the sock puppet we’ve come to ‘love’ - Make Hippie Trumpbots Great Again!
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I understand there will be a
I understand there will be a mad scramble to rationalize your gullibility as your precious Russia myth evaporates into the ether, by all means, please continue.
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CNBC's John Harwood:
CNBC's John Harwood with an ether status update:
https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/1068113307066908673
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^there you go again. You
^there you go again. You really sound like an idiot, Brayin'
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did trump just re-tweet bryen
did trump just re-tweet bryen?
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You sound desperate, Brayin
You sound desperate, Brayin
'You seem a little on edge today, Bryen. Reality starting to settle in?
Bryen is now taking his dear leader's approach by acting like a 3 year old.
I'm going to guess that either your spouse, boss or both are up your ass today.
Bryan, how long are you going to remain stupid? Or is it a life quest?
Bry is falling out of character again.
from a long time lurker, thanks for saying what desperately needs to be said. i love you all..
what a douche!
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Some will enjoy this more
Some will enjoy this more than others, I nearly busted a gut laughing out loud.
Two minute video set in Trump tower:
https://twitter.com/chunkled/status/1068137230370308096
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Let me attempt to put it
Let me attempt to put it another way, this whole ordeal is rapidly dissolving into thin air, this will obviously be a difficult time for the millions of people that allowed the Russia collusion narrative to shape their worldview, that is to be expected. The days ahead will be interesting, that is for sure...don't blame yourself if you're one of the countless Hillary supporters who bought into this fairytale, a lot of well educated, intelligent people are in the same predicament. I realize I'm a minority of one here, so by all means, feel free to direct your frustration towards me if that helps you get through what must be a challenging period, I completely understand.
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> I realize I'm a minority of
> I realize I'm a minority of one here,
Yo Narcissist, Thom is still here.
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No collusion. Lol
No collusion. Lol
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The Trump Organization
The Trump Organization Planned To Give Vladimir Putin The $50 Million Penthouse In Trump Tower Moscow
During the presidential campaign, Michael Cohen discussed the matter with a representative of Putin’s press secretary, according to two US sources.
President Donald Trump’s company planned to give a $50 million penthouse at Trump Tower Moscow to Russian President Vladimir Putin as the company negotiated the luxury real estate development during the 2016 campaign, according to four people, one of them the originator of the plan.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/anthonycormier/the-trump-organizati...
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Trump is almost a worthless
Trump is almost a worthless asset to Fox News, and when you see Fox start turning on him it will signal the end
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Just to put this in context
Just to put this in context
The Russian government was conducting a multi faceted attack on America, our people, our agencies and Trump was offering Putin a $50 million penthouse.
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How many penthouses did Putin
How many penthouses did Putin already own? All of them?
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The wheels are really
The wheels are really starting to fall off the Trump train at a rapidly exceeding rate. hope Ivanka is holding up okay?
Also, it's been fun watching bryen get roasted from the likes of long time lurkers, normal zoner folk,, and masters such as Nancy, who has spent her life's work slaying guys like him.
Have a good night zoner friends.
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The wheels are really
The wheels are really starting to fall off the Trump train at a rapidly exceeding rate. hope Ivanka is holding up okay?<<<<
A couple of hours ago, Trump tweeted:
As RNC Chair Ronna McDaniel oversaw history defying gains in the Senate and unprecedented fundraising strength. I have asked her to serve another term for my 2020 re-elect, because there is no one better for the job!
^ clearly Trump is unfazed and is looking to the future (rolls eyes).
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“I made these statements to
“I made these statements to be consistent with Individual -1’s political messaging and to be loyal to Individual -1,”
Cohen said in court.
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...is the loneliest number.
...is the loneliest number.
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Provoking New Crimes Rather
Provoking New Crimes Rather than Uncovering Past Crimes: Mueller's Modus Operandi
by Alan M. Dershowitz November 30, 2018
* Even if Mueller could prove that members of the Trump team had colluded with Julian Assange to use material that Assange had unlawfully obtained, that, too, would not be a crime.
* Merely using the product of an already committed theft of information is not a crime. If you don't believe me, ask the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Guardian and other newspapers that used material illegally obtained by Assange with full knowledge that it was illegally obtained.
* In the end, Mueller should be judged by how successful he has been in satisfying his central mission. Judged by that standard and based on what we now know, he seems to be an abysmal failure.
The recent guilty plea of Michael Cohen of lying represents the dominant trend in Mueller's approach to prosecution. The vast majority of indictments and guilty pleas obtained against Americans by Mueller have not been for substantive crimes relating to his mandate: namely, to uncover crimes involving illegal contacts with Russia. They have involved indictments and guilty pleas either for lying, or for financial crimes by individuals unrelated to the Russia probe. If this remains true after the filing of the Mueller report, it would represent a significant failure on Mueller's part.
Mueller was appointed Special Counsel not to provoke individuals into committing new crimes, but rather to uncover past crimes specifically involving alleged illegal coordination between the Trump campaign and Russian agents. No one doubted that Russia attempted to influence the 2020 election in favor of Donald Trump and against Hillary Clinton. But Mueller's mandate was not to prosecute Russians or to point the finger at Vladimir Putin. His mandate was to uncover crimes committed by the Trump campaign with regard to Russia's attempts to influence the election.
It was always an uphill struggle for Mueller, since collusion itself is not a crime. In other words, even if he could show that individuals in the Trump campaign had colluded with Russian agents to help elect Trump, that would be a serious political sin, but not a federal crime. Even if Mueller could prove that members of the Trump team had colluded with Julian Assange to use material that Assange had unlawfully obtained, that, too, would not be a crime. What would be a crime is something that no one claims happened: namely, that members of the Trump campaign told Assange to hack the Democratic National Committee before Assange did so. Merely using the product of an already committed theft of information is not a crime. If you don't believe me, ask the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Guardian and other newspapers that used material illegally obtained by Assange with full knowledge that it was illegally obtained. Not only did they use information from Assange, but also from Chelsea Manning and from the stolen Pentagon Papers. The First Amendment protects publication by the media of stolen information. It also protects use of such information by a political campaign, since political campaigns are also covered by the First Amendment.
It is important to note that Special Counsel Robert Mueller does not have a roving commission to ferret out political sin, to provoke new crimes, or to publish non-criminal conclusions that may be embarrassing to the President. His mandate, like that of every other prosecutor, is to uncover past crimes. In Mueller's case those crimes must relate to Russia. He also has the authority to prosecute crimes growing out of the Russia probe, but that is collateral to his central mission. In the end, Mueller should be judged by how successful he has been in satisfying his central mission. Judged by that standard and based on what we now know, he seems to be an abysmal failure.
Perhaps more will come out when his report is published, but it is unlikely that he uncovered anything dramatically new with regard to allegations that the Trump campaign acted illegally in an attempt to help Russia undercut Hillary Clinton's campaign. Even if the report alleges uncharged criminal behavior, it must be remembered that much of what will be in the report are merely allegations based on uncross-examined evidence. Some of that evidence seems to come from admitted liars, who have pleaded guilty for lying. These liars would make poor witnesses in an actual trial, but if their evidence serves as a basis for conclusions reached in the Mueller report, then these conclusions may seem more credible than they actually are. We must, of course, wait for the publication of the Mueller report before reaching any final judgments, but if the Mueller report merely catalogues all the guilty pleas and indictments achieved thus far for lying and unrelated financial crimes, and tries to build a case of guilt by association around them, the American public will be justly critical of the process.
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Ha.
Ha.
Robert Mueller made me lie.
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The point of the article is
The point of the article is there were no crimes in regards to the 2016 election, if that matters to anyone.
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"Mueller was appointed Special Counsel not to provoke individuals into committing new crimes, but rather to uncover past crimes specifically involving alleged illegal coordination between the Trump campaign and Russian agents."
^ this
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So what’s your point? You do
So what’s your point? You do realize that whatever a Special prosecutor turns up is fair game. See Ken Starr. Oh, it ain’t over yet, no need to rush on declaring Trump innocent of collusion, unless that makes you feel good.
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The point is, we've reached a
The point is, we've reached a watershed moment where you'll increasingly notice the narrative "pivot" from claims that the president is guilty of a crime, to those around him being guilty of process crimes...those transgressions will be rationalized a thousand different ways as justification for the biggest scam in political history.
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Bryen, you can't possibly
Bryen, you can't possibly know if Trump has committed any crimes or not. I know you can't believe he could do anything wrong, but we'll see about that.
Bryen, please give us your rating on Trump's performance to date - great, good, so-so, bad, terrible.
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Surf, what I'm saying is
Surf, what I'm saying is observe the transition, you'll notice subtle changes at first, pundits have already started moving the goalposts, you'll see...this will be rationalized as "even though there wasn't proof of x, y or z...it's still good we sabotaged the presidency", it's been a complete scam since day one and history will paint it as such.
To answer your question, considering the alternative I think we dodged a bullet as a nation & possibly a civilization...realizing the tyranny he's had to endure, I'd say he's doing a pretty good job.
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>>> Surf, what I'm saying is
>>> Surf, what I'm saying is observe the transition, you'll notice subtle changes at first <<<
Kinda like Mark voting for Hillary Clinton.
Makes total mensa.
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He has indured tyranny
He has indured tyranny
was this done one of them weekends at Mar a Lago by a hooker?
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ducks in order? popcorn?
ducks in order? popcorn? not yet? bread and circus folks... https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/29/fbi-whistleblower-clinton-uranium/
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>>>>>I'd say he's doing a
>>>>>I'd say he's doing a pretty good job.
Speechless.