The CIA lied to the Senate, White House officials and DOJ about torture.
CIA agents lied to White House officials and others about the use of torture and its effectiveness in obtaining information from detainees, according to an explosive report released by the Senate Intelligence Committee on Tuesday.
The lies began during the first term of the George W. Bush administration and continued into the presidency of Barack Obama.
Trump is fucking moron. Nothing untrue or "fake news" about it, he proves it multiple times a day in video and his own tweets. He slammed Wiki and Assange in 2010 (again his own documented words) and now, all of a sudden, Assange is god's gift? (to Trump, yes).
Really can't make the shit up, don't have to, he is just a fountain of it.
This behavior is all he knows. He has been involved in a family business his entire life which is often, authoritarian by nature. He worked under his father and surely saw him singularly run things. He took over and has done the same for decades.
His one venture outside that was the USFL where he, almost single handedly, bankrupted and doomed the league by deviating from the collective plan (devised by the league ownership of which he was just one). Their plan was to methodically build share for that time between the NFL seasons and to do so, cost effectively. He, with his chase and ultimate signing of Herschel Walker to the most lucrative contract in any football league. This enraged the rest of the ownership, set off the domino effect of higher costs associated with personnel signings and then, the entire leagues downfall.
Struggle to give him as much credit relative to him deviously setting up an authoritarian government as he's just not that bright and he's just doing what he knows best. Now, his sycophants are certainly brighter and their craving for power is having them enable Herr Trump.
Last week, Donald Trump stubbornly stuck to the line he had maintained throughout the campaign: that nobody knows who hacked into Democratic Party emails. It could have been the Chinese, a lone obese man, etc. The “intelligence” — he insisted on using scare quotes — was suspiciously postponed, the Iraq War had shown that the CIA was untrustworthy in general, and trusted authority Julian Assange had suggested Russia might be getting unfairly blamed for the actions of a 14-year-old boy.
Over the weekend, his line changed. Now, the very idea that Trump had mocked U.S. intelligence was an invention of the “dishonest media”; in fact, he is “a big fan.” Trump cited intelligence as his authority that Russia attempted to hack both parties, but only succeeded in hacking Democrats because Republicans had “strong defense.” (In reality, U.S. intelligence believes Russia successfully hacked both parties, but only released Democratic emails.)
Trump and his supporters retreated to a new line, insisting in an official statement that the report had proved “there was absolutely no effect on the outcome of the election including the fact that there was no tampering whatsoever with voting machines.”
Kellyanne Conway made the talk-show rounds on Sunday to press home the point that the official report concluded that Russian email hacking had no influence on the election whatsoever. “They did not succeed in throwing the election to Donald Trump,” she told Chuck Todd. “If you read the full report, they make clear, Mr. Clapper in his testimony made very clear in his testimony, under oath, that any attempt, any aspiration to influence our elections failed. They were not successful in doing that,” she insisted to Jake Tapper.
This is completely false. In fact, the intelligence report that Conway refers to took no position whatsoever on whether Russian hacking changed the outcome of the election.
...
It isn’t just outside the purview of the intelligence community to say conclusively whether the Russian email hacks made Trump president. It’s outside the realm of human knowledge altogether, since it would require re-running the election in an alternate universe in which every other factor was identical save the presence of hacked emails published on WikiLeaks. Still, in an election that could have been reversed by a swing of 0.7 percent of the vote in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin plus 0.3 percent of the vote in Michigan, it seems quite likely that the revelations produced by the Russian hack made a large enough difference to change such a small number of votes. Trump cited WikiLeaks revelations 164 times during the election, according to Igor Volsky and Judd Legum. WikiLeaks emails were central to Trump’s case that Hillary Clinton was corrupt and disqualified from holding office. WikiLeaks emails also infuriated supporters of Bernie Sanders, some of whom never came around to supporting Clinton after the primary grudge. Most important, the leaked emails generated countless headlines connecting Clinton to “emails,” which to low-information voters had become a catch-all phrase summarizing an aura of scandal around the Democratic candidate.
...
...if instead of nominating Trump, the Republicans had nominated Charles Manson, it is likely that Hillary Clinton would have won, but again, we can’t say this for certain. In fact, I have my doubts. Republicans would initially view Manson as a dangerous maniac who must be stopped, as Republicans (like Harsanyi) did in early 2016 with Trump, but maybe over time they would place his flaws in context: Manson and Clinton both did radical things in the 1960s, and both are accused murderers, but only one of them used an unsecured email server and plans to fill the vacant Supreme Court seat with a left-wing justice etc., etc. Who’s to say?
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on Wednesday, January 4, 2017 – 09:15 am
Dead2, no comments on the
Dead2, no comments on the incoming Chief Strategist/propagandist Steve Bannon and his willingness to provide a platform for white nationalists?
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on Wednesday, January 4, 2017 – 09:20 am
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on Wednesday, January 4, 2017 – 09:31 am
So you no issues with Steve
So you no issues with Steve Bannon's willingness to profit from the promulgation of a racist ideology?
Good to know.
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on Wednesday, January 4, 2017 – 11:25 am
Maybe the Donald is a zoner:
Maybe the Donald is a zoner:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/816620855958601730
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on Wednesday, January 4, 2017 – 11:41 am
https://twitter.com
https://twitter.com/markberman/status/816626321203859456
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on Wednesday, January 4, 2017 – 11:56 am
Guy trusts Putin and Assange
Guy trusts Putin and Assange but not the CIA.
We're fucked.
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on Wednesday, January 4, 2017 – 12:00 pm
>> Guy trusts Putin and
>> Guy trusts Putin and Assange but not the CIA.
He shouldn't trust anyone absolutely. Remember it was the CIA who provided "intelligence" on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction.
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on Wednesday, January 4, 2017 – 12:07 pm
The CIA lied to the Senate,
The CIA lied to the Senate, White House officials and DOJ about torture.
CIA agents lied to White House officials and others about the use of torture and its effectiveness in obtaining information from detainees, according to an explosive report released by the Senate Intelligence Committee on Tuesday.
The lies began during the first term of the George W. Bush administration and continued into the presidency of Barack Obama.
http://mashable.com/2014/12/09/5-times-the-cia-lied/#iMdh46LKpkq3
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on Wednesday, January 4, 2017 – 01:09 pm
It was a video
It was a video
You can keep your doctor
LIARS
Don't believe a single word
Report: Obama's Senior Defense Officials Likely Lied About ISIS Intel For Political Purposes
http://www.dailywire.com/news/3423/report-obamas-senior-defense-official...
CENTCOM Altered Intel to Make Obama’s War Against Islamic State Look Better
BREAKING! Obama Admin BUSTED – The Truth About ISIS Has Been Revealed
Read more: http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/breaking-obama-admin-caught-manipulat...
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on Wednesday, January 4, 2017 – 02:50 pm
Trump is fucking moron.
Trump is fucking moron. Nothing untrue or "fake news" about it, he proves it multiple times a day in video and his own tweets. He slammed Wiki and Assange in 2010 (again his own documented words) and now, all of a sudden, Assange is god's gift? (to Trump, yes).
Really can't make the shit up, don't have to, he is just a fountain of it.
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on Wednesday, January 4, 2017 – 04:32 pm
^Markd, the said thing is
^Markd, the said thing is that either many Americans can't figure it out, or they just don't give a shit.
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on Wednesday, January 4, 2017 – 04:53 pm
Well, apparently not
Well, apparently not everybody is in love with the Russian coup:
"Asked Wednesday whether he could support Tillerson's nomination, McCain told reporters, "Sure. There's also a realistic scenario that pigs fly.""
http://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/article/Tillerson-makes-rounds-...
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on Wednesday, January 4, 2017 – 05:04 pm
When is Obama going to put
When is Obama going to put sanctions on the DNC for rigging their primary?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Markd (not MarkD) Mdono1
on Wednesday, January 4, 2017 – 05:27 pm
Tweet of the day and no, it
Tweet of the day and no, it did not come from the Orange Julius
"Let's stare this reality square in the face: PEOTUS is pro-Putin and believes Julian Assange over the CIA. On Jan. 20 we will be less safe."
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on Wednesday, January 4, 2017 – 05:42 pm
Ender, the neo-libs rigged it
Ender, the neo-libs rigged it to keep from having an avowed socialist on the ticket.
They showed their reactionary colors.
Watch the left abandon the Dem Party.
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on Thursday, January 5, 2017 – 10:45 am
https://twitter.com/ABC
https://twitter.com/ABC/status/816976999487078400
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on Thursday, January 5, 2017 – 10:50 am
https://twitter.com/davidfrum
https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/816993656213295105
https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/817010812997005312
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on Thursday, January 5, 2017 – 10:53 am
https://twitter.com/Evan
https://twitter.com/Evan_McMullin/status/816804217990119424
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on Thursday, January 5, 2017 – 10:57 am
https://twitter.com/Evan
https://twitter.com/Evan_McMullin/status/816806664833794048
https://twitter.com/Evan_McMullin/status/816808109196906496
https://twitter.com/Evan_McMullin/status/816808109196906496
https://twitter.com/Evan_McMullin/status/817029586483552256
https://twitter.com/Evan_McMullin/status/817033183120199680
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on Thursday, January 5, 2017 – 11:19 am
This behavior is all he knows
This behavior is all he knows. He has been involved in a family business his entire life which is often, authoritarian by nature. He worked under his father and surely saw him singularly run things. He took over and has done the same for decades.
His one venture outside that was the USFL where he, almost single handedly, bankrupted and doomed the league by deviating from the collective plan (devised by the league ownership of which he was just one). Their plan was to methodically build share for that time between the NFL seasons and to do so, cost effectively. He, with his chase and ultimate signing of Herschel Walker to the most lucrative contract in any football league. This enraged the rest of the ownership, set off the domino effect of higher costs associated with personnel signings and then, the entire leagues downfall.
Struggle to give him as much credit relative to him deviously setting up an authoritarian government as he's just not that bright and he's just doing what he knows best. Now, his sycophants are certainly brighter and their craving for power is having them enable Herr Trump.
Scary nonetheless.
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on Monday, January 9, 2017 – 10:30 am
>>>>>When is Obama going to
>>>>>When is Obama going to put sanctions on the DNC for rigging their primary?
DNC is not part of the government.
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on Monday, January 9, 2017 – 11:33 am
This is a good read: http:/
This is a good read, more and links at: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/01/trump-invents-new-fallback-...
Last week, Donald Trump stubbornly stuck to the line he had maintained throughout the campaign: that nobody knows who hacked into Democratic Party emails. It could have been the Chinese, a lone obese man, etc. The “intelligence” — he insisted on using scare quotes — was suspiciously postponed, the Iraq War had shown that the CIA was untrustworthy in general, and trusted authority Julian Assange had suggested Russia might be getting unfairly blamed for the actions of a 14-year-old boy.
Over the weekend, his line changed. Now, the very idea that Trump had mocked U.S. intelligence was an invention of the “dishonest media”; in fact, he is “a big fan.” Trump cited intelligence as his authority that Russia attempted to hack both parties, but only succeeded in hacking Democrats because Republicans had “strong defense.” (In reality, U.S. intelligence believes Russia successfully hacked both parties, but only released Democratic emails.)
Trump and his supporters retreated to a new line, insisting in an official statement that the report had proved “there was absolutely no effect on the outcome of the election including the fact that there was no tampering whatsoever with voting machines.”
Kellyanne Conway made the talk-show rounds on Sunday to press home the point that the official report concluded that Russian email hacking had no influence on the election whatsoever. “They did not succeed in throwing the election to Donald Trump,” she told Chuck Todd. “If you read the full report, they make clear, Mr. Clapper in his testimony made very clear in his testimony, under oath, that any attempt, any aspiration to influence our elections failed. They were not successful in doing that,” she insisted to Jake Tapper.
This is completely false. In fact, the intelligence report that Conway refers to took no position whatsoever on whether Russian hacking changed the outcome of the election.
...
It isn’t just outside the purview of the intelligence community to say conclusively whether the Russian email hacks made Trump president. It’s outside the realm of human knowledge altogether, since it would require re-running the election in an alternate universe in which every other factor was identical save the presence of hacked emails published on WikiLeaks. Still, in an election that could have been reversed by a swing of 0.7 percent of the vote in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin plus 0.3 percent of the vote in Michigan, it seems quite likely that the revelations produced by the Russian hack made a large enough difference to change such a small number of votes. Trump cited WikiLeaks revelations 164 times during the election, according to Igor Volsky and Judd Legum. WikiLeaks emails were central to Trump’s case that Hillary Clinton was corrupt and disqualified from holding office. WikiLeaks emails also infuriated supporters of Bernie Sanders, some of whom never came around to supporting Clinton after the primary grudge. Most important, the leaked emails generated countless headlines connecting Clinton to “emails,” which to low-information voters had become a catch-all phrase summarizing an aura of scandal around the Democratic candidate.
...
...if instead of nominating Trump, the Republicans had nominated Charles Manson, it is likely that Hillary Clinton would have won, but again, we can’t say this for certain. In fact, I have my doubts. Republicans would initially view Manson as a dangerous maniac who must be stopped, as Republicans (like Harsanyi) did in early 2016 with Trump, but maybe over time they would place his flaws in context: Manson and Clinton both did radical things in the 1960s, and both are accused murderers, but only one of them used an unsecured email server and plans to fill the vacant Supreme Court seat with a left-wing justice etc., etc. Who’s to say?
...
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on Monday, January 9, 2017 – 11:46 am
Emails Show Hillary Clinton's
Emails Show Hillary Clinton's Email Server Was A Massive Security Headache, Set Up To Route Around FOIA Requests
FBI Now 99% Certain at Least 5 Foreign Agencies Hacked Into Hillary’s Server
Clinton server faced hacking from China, South Korea and Germany