Tulsi - "Trump acting like Saudi Arabia's bitch"

^I agree with you on all accounts, Ken.

Takes one to know one, I guess.

Maybe Tulsi is an expert seeing as how she's been Bashar al-Assad's bitch for years now.

So you are fine with our subservient role to a terrorist nation?

oh bullshit Terry, i can't believe you've bought into the smear tactics of the military industrial complex and their complicit media henchmen to undermine Tulsi's non-interventionist platform.

>>> oh bullshit Terry, i can't believe you've bought into the smear tactics of the military industrial complex and their complicit media henchmen to undermine Tulsi's non-interventionist platform.

Yeah, you got me Lassen.  I've been shamed by a 9-11 truther.  LOL - whatever champ.

Funny how i dont recall any contribution from you in the 9-11 thread. Probably for the best considering the weak ass shit you dropped in this one.

I made a contribution in the 9-11 thread about how you’re a kook and this thread fully supports that theory. I suppose that qualifies me to post in this thread. 

Oh and BTW, Trump is SA’s bitch, for sure. 

“Saudi Arabia oil supply was attacked. There is reason to believe that we know the culprit, are locked and loaded depending on verification, but are waiting to hear from the Kingdom as to who they believe was the cause of this attack, and under what terms we would proceed!”

AS SOON AS SAUDI ARABIA TELLS US WHO TO ATTACK, WE WILL TAKE ACTION! 

unreal 

>>  Funny how i dont recall any contribution from you in the 9-11 thread. 

Yeah, when I come across nuts with "9-11 Was An Inside Job!1!1!" signs I cross the street to avoid their obvious madness and continue on my merry way.

Anyhow here's some insightful reading about how your gal Tulsi went to Damascus (...and blamed the USA for Assad's crimes upon his own people) on a trip arranged by the fascist, anti-Semetic Syrian Social Nationalist Party (SSNP).

here's the link with the full text below (sorry it's not a youtube video from Prison Planet or wherever you traditionaly get your news)

https://www.theatlantic.com/news/archive/2017/01/the-organization-that-s...

NEWS

The Organization That Sent Tulsi Gabbard to Syria

The Ohio-based Arab American group has been linked to the Assad regime and called anti-Semitic—charges its leader rejects.

YASMEEN SERHAN

JAN 31, 2017

The head of the group that organized and paid for Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard’s trip to Syria says he personally financed the trip in which the Hawaii Democrat met with Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, denied he had links to Assad or a controversial Syrian political party, and rejected news reports that said his group was anti-Semitic.

In an interview with The Atlantic, Bassam Khawam, a former executive director and current board member of the Arab American Community Center for Economic and Social Services (AACCESS-Ohio), said this wasn’t the first trip his Cleveland-based organization has coordinated for U.S. lawmakers to the Middle East. Founded in 1991 to serve the Arab American community in Ohio, AACCESS has organized three trips to the region for Dennis Kucinich, the former Democratic congressman from Ohio, between 2006 and 2011;  Khawam said the group did the same for Gabbard, a two-term Democratic congresswoman from Hawaii, because of her expressed interest in the region.

“Congresswoman Gabbard had a position on what’s taking place in Syria, and about regime change, and these sort of things,” Khawam, a Lebanese health-care consultant, told me in an interview. “So we thought … that would be most likely very helpful for her to see things on the ground similar to what we did with Congressman Kucinich.”

Gabbard, a veteran of the Iraq war, has long advocated that the U.S. should focus its efforts in Syria on Islamist groups instead of ousting Assad, whom the Obama administration had called on to step down. She had even criticized Obama for not using the term “radical Islam” to describe groups such as ISIS. And she introduced legislation that would bar the U.S. government from supporting groups allied with or supporting terrorist organizations, some of which are fighting against the Assad regime. Her views on Syria appear to align more closely with those of President Trump, who says the U.S. should focus its efforts on defeating ISIS.

On January 18, Gabbard caused a stir when she revealed her fact-finding trip to Syria this month included a meeting with Assad. She said she hadn’t planned on meeting with the longtime Syrian leader, but that when given the opportunity she felt “it was important to take it,” adding: “I think we should be ready to meet with anyone if there’s a chance it can bring about an end to this war, which is causing the Syrian people so much suffering.”

Not all of her colleagues in Congress approved. Representative Adam Kinzinger, a Republican from Illinois and fellow Iraq veteran, called Gabbard’s meeting with Assad “disgusting” and said the move “legitimized his dictatorship and in turn, legitimized his genocide against the Syrian people.” Democratic leaders have yet to formally comment on the trip, but Nancy Pelosi, the House minority leader, said she wasn’t aware Gabbard was making the trip.   

It’s not uncommon for lawmakers to make foreign trips abroad. In some cases, though, it’s illegal. Under the Logan Act, unauthorized individuals are prohibited from contacting foreign governments that are in dispute with the U.S.—as the Assad regime is. But no one has ever been prosecuted under the law. Khawam said the law “didn’t come up at all” when his organization proposed the trip to the House Ethics Committee.

Although the trip was sponsored by AACCESS, Khawam said it was he and his brother, Elie Khawam, who funded the trip as a non-grant-making donation. Khawam declined to say how much the brothers spent on the trip. Under House rules, such donations can only be made by an individual or entity with “direct involvement in planning, organizing, conducting, or participating” in the trip. Such trips cannot be taxpayer funded. Gabbard originally declined to disclose how the trip was being financed, a precaution she and Khawam attributed to security reasons.

“It’s a very transparent trip,” Khawam said. “The reason it was not advertised is because you’re going to a country that has a war there. ... it’s not something you want to advertise in the media because of safety issues.”

Some news reports have linked Khawam to the Syrian government and Imad Moustapha, who served as the envoy to the U.S. before diplomatic relations between the two countries were suspended in 2012. Khawam called the allegations “utterly, 100 percent wrong.”

“We are in no shape or form a lobbyist for Assad or speaking on his behalf,” Khawam said. “This was a peace mission to visit with the Syrian people and some officials to see how much suffering this country has endured for the last six years.”

When asked about reported allegations that he visited the former Syrian ambassador in Washington, he added: “The only time I visited was at the embassy, to get visas to enter Damascus.”

Khawam has been accused in some news reports of having links to the Syrian Social Nationalist Party (SSNP), a secular pro-Assad Lebanese–Syrian political party. The group, considered one of the largest political parties in Syria after the ruling Ba’ath party, has been accused of fascism, anti-Semitism, and has even been likened to the Nazi party, though its members have long repudiated such claims. The party supports Assad, and is believed to have sent between 6,000 to 8,000 fighters to fight on the side of his regime in the civil war.

Khawam said he has contact with many political parties in Lebanon, including SSNP, which lists his brother, Elie, as a member. Khawam said he himself is not a member of the party—though he told me he attended an event associated with it—and said SSNP “did not play any role” with the trip.

“AACCESS is not an anti-Semitic organization … I am not anti-Semitic,” Khawam said, rejecting allegations about the group that have appeared in multiple news stories about Gabbard’s trip. “I don’t understand how this came into the picture or what the SSNP has to do with this accusation. SSNP did not play a role in it; this is the bottom line.”

When asked about the Gabbard trip’s policy goals, Khawam said the organization didn’t have any. “This was a humanitarian trip to go see the refugees and the religious leaders there,” he said. “To see the destruction and to meet with some of the local people there and witness their suffering, to see what they’re all about, and to have accurate information.”

But Khawam also criticized what he called a mischaracterization of the conflict in Syria as a civil war.

“In [the Syrian people’s] mind, it’s a proxy war that’s taking place to divide the people there. It’s an issue of fighting with ISIS, al-Nusra, and al-Qaeda elements,”  Khawam said. “This is what it is.”

That’s a position Gabbard appears to share.

Tulsi platform ? When was she elected president ? How long have I been asleep ?

Obama and his support for the opposition came close to Assad's ass, but he didn't have the stomach for a war with Russia. Once fuckhead dump got elected any opposition to Assad evaporated like water in the desert,, and putin's had the say in syria ever since. Just more fucking brilliant clump foreign policy strategy 

FOOD FIGHT!!!

Thanks for that article Terry- i skimmed through it, but will dig into it later.

Regardless of whether you agree with Tulsi's foreign policy stance, and in particular with respect to Syria, in my opinion her agenda is to prevent war in Syria which would result in mass casualties, like what she saw first hand in Iraq.

But, if that makes her Assad's bitch to you, then you're certainly entitled to your opinion.

Hey, what's up Ras?  :)

Fuck you Bucky!

And Trump is Saudi Arabia's bitch, no doubt.

No points for stating the obvious.

#notyoutulsi

>>>   her agenda is to prevent war in Syria which would result in mass casualties

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/13/world/middleeast/syria-death-toll.html

3% of the US population is 10 million....is that "mass"?

>>>   her agenda is to prevent war in Syria which would result in mass casualties

2%+  of the population is not mass casualties?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/13/world/middleeast/syria-death-toll.html

April 13, 2018

In seven years, the casualties of Syria’s civil war have grown from the first handful of protesters shot by government forces to hundreds of thousands of dead.

But as the war has dragged on, growing more diffuse and complex, many international monitoring groups have essentially stopped counting.

Even the United Nations, which released regular reports on the death toll during the first years of the war, gave its last estimate in 2016 — when it relied on 2014 data, in part — and said that it was virtually impossible to verify how many had died.

At that time, a United Nations official said 400,000 people had been killed.

But so many of the biggest moments of the war have happened since then. In the past two years, the government of President Bashar al-Assad, with Russia’s help, laid siege to residential areas

of Aleppo, once the country’s second-largest city, and several other areas controlled by opposition groups, leveling entire neighborhoods. Last weekend, dozens of people died in a suspected chemical attack on a Damascus suburb, prompting the United States, Britain and France to launch retaliatory strikes against Syrian targets early Saturday.

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Tulsi is a witch spawned by Satan.  

JR

what is trumps lineage?

I think those articles posted by weird steve prove Tulsi's point about U.S. interventionism. Notwithstanding Assad's brutality, i believe Syria was fairly stable until we started funding terrorist organizations in the country in an attempt to overthrow the Assad regime. Syria has been a target of the neocons going way back.

And don't for a minute think if Syria didn't have strategic geo-political and economic significance that we would give a shit about what Assad is doing to his people. hippie puhleeze

I don’t think Obama wanted to destabilize syria.  Why would the US benefit from destabilizing Syria (it doesn’t have a lot of oil).

I think there was a severelack of rain/ draught ...that caused millions of Sunni farmers to flood into the cities and ask for government assistance.

When the Alawite/Shiite government of Assad failed to give a shit, the Sunnis started to rebel.

The Assad family does not deal with rebellion lightly.

Then take the above and add the Sunnis from Iraq who recently were thrown out of power by the US.

Now add Saudi support for the Sunnis, Iranian support for the Alawites (Shiites).....and it is the same type of scenario as Yemen....

...or Iraq.

Tulsi is wise

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/11/06/what-does-tulsi-gabbard-be...

<< Notwithstanding Assad's brutality, i believe Syria was fairly stable until we started funding terrorist organizations in the country in an attempt to overthrow the Assad regime. Syria has been a target of the neocons going way back. >>

Brother Lassen,, You Ignorant Slut. You call Obama's attempt to avoid all out war, yet give a fighting chance to the ones Assad was systematically eliminating , neocon ?  Assad was practicing full blown genocide on his own citizen's. Gassing entire towns, women and children. You callin Them terrorist organizations ?  Why you're a special kind of right wing thinkin nut ain'tcha ?

That was  good article on Tulsi... thanks Surf. Makes me like her even more!

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/pompeo-inadvertently-admitted-the-iran-crisis-is-a-direct-result-of-trumps-actions/ar-AAHuzAG?ocid=ientp

Hahaha Lassen. Lol