... and finds a bootleg of his music !
This is pretty amazing how the clerk does not recognize him at all, I wonder if has ever been seen by anyone here before ? It did however bring me back to a place in time where I can almost smell the incense burning... orbing me back to a wonderful time when you went to a record store to purchase music, a time when it was an experience, a place to be...:)
https://www.facebook.com/Wondros/videos/1367154510011180/
not sure if this is gonna work, hope so ~
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: comic book colors on a violin river... Cumberlyn
on Sunday, January 8, 2017 – 02:14 pm
I think it worked, but may
I think it worked, but may have to have fb to view it. Was only option for copy and paste. maybe a more tech savvy zoner can repost it a better way.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Racketinmyhead Racketinmyhead
on Sunday, January 8, 2017 – 02:50 pm
cool link. Thanks
cool link. Thanks
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sycamore Slough Disco Stu
on Sunday, January 8, 2017 – 02:57 pm
I was able to view it with no
I was able to view it with no FB acc't. Thanks for the Link !!
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on Sunday, January 8, 2017 – 03:04 pm
Thats pretty cool. I wonder
Thats pretty cool. I wonder if the whole thing was a staged event. Its also an interesting look into artists that do allow taping and free trade of their music and ones that do not from that era. Not like selling bootlegs is related, but why did ome bands pioneer audience bootlegging and others did not? Were these concern of artists or record companies?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sycamore Slough Disco Stu
on Sunday, January 8, 2017 – 03:54 pm
Nuclear,
Nuclear,
It was different in the late 70's -> early 80's compared to today. You could go in to various record stores in lower Manhattan and find all sorts of interesting bootleg LP's. There were GD boots, Neil Young, Allman Bros, and many Frank Zappa pressings.
I was in "Second Coming" record store in the Village one afternoon when the dude w/ unmarked blue van arrived with the latest shipment of FZ boots. The cashier put the sample down on the turntable and did a few needle drops to ensure High-Quality pressing. Then the new unlicensed album was on the shelf !!
Zappa in his lifetime did a "Beat The Boots" series where he released them upon CD and sold them. I am unsure if he took the actual high-quality boots and reprocessed them, or dug up old tapes for the remaster.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: comic book colors on a violin river... Cumberlyn
on Sunday, January 8, 2017 – 04:26 pm
Good, glad you can see it (
Good, glad you can see it ( Hi Stu :) ) !
I don't think it is staged because at one point on the audio you here Neil responding to the clerk who consistently asked " what is going on here" ? Neil responds with "we are just going around to record stores and filming" or something like that. It is very low in the audio and easy to miss. I just can't imagine anyone working in a record store and not knowing Neil Young, but i do remember a lot of nerdy/geek types having jobs in stores near me, I always found them to be really cool as they always knew a lot of history and facts on many musicians...
...maybe that is why I married one .... lol !
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: uncmozo Jerry H
on Sunday, January 8, 2017 – 07:55 pm
Second Coming Records!!
Second Coming Records!! Right next to Googies! Bought many bootlegs there, one of my favorite record stores.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: |-|/-\|_|_ Googlymoogly
on Tuesday, January 10, 2017 – 04:23 pm
Neil is such a badass
Neil is such a badass
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Localcountyline Localcountyline
on Tuesday, January 10, 2017 – 04:30 pm
I think it would be a
I think it would be a surprise if he didn't find a bootleg of his in a record store back then.
I bought a couple myself.
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on Tuesday, January 10, 2017 – 06:59 pm
>>>>>>> Its also an
>>>>>>> Its also an interesting look into artists that do allow taping and free trade of their music and ones that do not from that era.
Um, pretty much NO artist allowed taping prior to the GD official taping section in 1985 (from the late '70's on they merely "tolerated" it, w/occasional crackdowns). From what I remember hearing the record co's would often bring it up when negotiating record deals w/artists ie "you tolerate taping @ your live shows & perform new material live before it's been recorded, so we're concerned about how much $$$ we're willing to invest in studio time/ cash advances to support your records if the market is already saturated w/bootlegs". From a purely business perspective this does make sense. An interesting perspective is the extended conversation Bill Graham has w/Santana's manager in the "Last Days of the Fillmore" movie because Santana refused to participate in the festivities as they were being FM broadcast & Santana's manager didn't want it to appear on bootlegs.
>>>>>>> i do remember a lot of nerdy/geek types having jobs in stores near me
When I worked at a mom & pop record store in the Phila suburbs @ Age 15 in late 1976, we didn't carry any bootlegs. I was actually hired to bring in "young blood" to the store, & was tasked w/ordering "modern" music. I used to take the SEPTA train from Abington high school to Hatboro every afternoon, & my Mom would pick me up @ 8 pm. The storefront is still there today (altho vacant), right around the corner from the 1880's train station that housed a coffee shop that sold real espresso to all the local Guido's who hung out there smoking cigars all day. Wow what a Hipster I was. Take that Ateix! Of course the store was owned by an "elderly" (prob in their 40's) couple & their primary business was '50's hit singles & sheet music. They were pretty straight laced so I doubt they'd ever have sold bootlegs. I will say our "modern" album selection was larger than in this video. Hell our Bob Dylan section was over a foot thick, this store it was only a few lp's. I knew about bootlegs from seeing them advertised in the back of Rolling Stone, & they were also sold @ head shops in the suburbs. I already had a cassette recorder (altho only mono) by that time & was pretty diligent about recording FM broadcasts of various live shows & of course the King Biscuit Flower Hour (WMMR was a HUGE treasure trove in those days, & did their own broadcasts from a club in Bryn Mawr I can't remember the name of - new up & coming artists such as Billy Joel, Dire Straits, Warren Zevon, George Thorogood, etc), so for me the bootleg lp's were pretty pricey for not much better (and often worse) quality than the recordings I had off the radio. WMMR used to do "live marathons" on holiday weekends (Thanksgiving in particular) with 3 or 4 days of nothing but live recordings. Oh the days!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sycamore Slough Disco Stu
on Tuesday, January 10, 2017 – 10:13 pm
What Sideshow mentions
What Sideshow mentions regarding conventional LP stores is accurate. Late 70's -> early 80's every suburban NJ or PA mall had at least 2-3 record stores that also sold either teenage music gear, or posters & headshop stuff. They never had actual 'Bootleg' LP's, although they might have been selling Taiwanese fake pressings of Peter Frampton and Fleetwood Mac which looked exactly like the real item, but had low-quality vinyl. Who knows how much the actual record companies were involved?
To get actual Bootleg LP's, NYC was the place, not Sam Goody's but small shoppes in lower Manhattan. Second Coming had the best selection and prices, Bleeker Bob had a few things, and there were another 3-4 in the area.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: comic book colors on a violin river... Cumberlyn
on Tuesday, January 10, 2017 – 10:38 pm
Hey, I remember the King
Hey, I remember the King Biscuit Flower Hour...:) I was def a WMMR girl, sometimes WYSP too!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lord Kalvert Lloyd_Klondike
on Wednesday, January 11, 2017 – 11:40 am
that dolt works in a record
that dolt works in a record store and he "doesn't listen to records".......yeah right.
Classic
Boy I sure miss old record stores.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bobby M BobbyfromCT
on Wednesday, January 11, 2017 – 03:36 pm
New Haven had some good
New Haven had some good record stores, with all the college kids around.
I remember going to NYC and checking out the record stores and seeing all the boots!
I remember Bleecker Bob's too.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lassen No Treble No Trouble
on Wednesday, January 11, 2017 – 05:36 pm
Johnny's Records in Darien CT
Johnny's Records in Darien CT used to make a killin selling Dead boots to all the CT custies..
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sideshow Bob drkstrjry
on Wednesday, January 11, 2017 – 08:11 pm
>>>>>>> that dolt works in a
>>>>>>> that dolt works in a record store and he "doesn't listen to records".......yeah right.
I think he was just taking his Jr Mafia training a little too literally/seriouslee: "Records? I don't sell no records, I gots Nuthin to do w/that, I don't even have a record player"
>>>>>>> Johnny's Records in Darien CT used to make a killin selling Dead boots to all the CT custies..
The Trading Post in Canton CT used to make a Killing selling bootleg Tapes to Custie Deadheads, their "twist" to get away w/selling boots was: "Hey Wow Cool, we'll make tape copies for you, you just have to buy the blanks from us, TDK-D's for $5.00 a pop, & the boots are made on our hi speed double dubber boom boxes"
>>>>>>> sometimes WYSP too!
YSP was more of a "pop" station, they played more hit singles (altho they'd @ least play the full unhacked versions), they never did live broadcasts or play real "deep cuts". MMR was a treasure trove of bootlegging - they played whole albums every night @ midnight ("The Midnight Bong") for years & years, plus all the live stuff. I remember MMR was 93.something, YSP 94.something, & Phila's 1st top 40 FM station was @ 92.something. Towards the end of my radio listening time (1977), a station around 102.something changed format to compete w/MMR & used to get a few FM broadcasts, in fact I think the Cap Th 11/23/78 show was broadcast on that station, a major coup @ the time . . .
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: comic book colors on a violin river... Cumberlyn
on Wednesday, January 11, 2017 – 09:16 pm
I remember MMR was 93
I remember MMR was 93.something >>>>
93.3....and still is :) You know I hardly listen to radio tho, I have SO many cd's that keep me entertained in the "live music" style I prefer. Thanks to many of my friends, generous zoners and wonderful music contacts I have acquired thru the years.
...and then there is your basement still...lol !
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bobby M BobbyfromCT
on Thursday, January 12, 2017 – 11:11 am
The Trading Post in Canton is
The Trading Post in Canton is still there.
Also remember record conventions?
I got lots of boot tapes, CDs and DVDs from record conventions.
Sideshows's basement, LOL!!!
A lot of great music down there.