its the media.... they tend to dwell on things, often grim news or the dark side.... and they have every single american brain washed right now with sound bytes and 'retorts'.
Well for me living in the Sierra foothills it makes me sad seeing all the brown dead standing pine trees caused by the bark beetle. I have 150 trees being cut down right now on my hill where I live. The threat of wild fire is real.
Living in the drought area is real seeing it on TV is not.
Seeing the snow and rain here in the mountains makes everyone Happy.
I don't disagree there's still a drought and many locales are more severely affected than others, but I find it interesting how it's next to impossible to see a thread on a message board or news story re: "big snow / rain" continue without some mention of the drought. 84.2% of the people are happy to smile re: the good fortune of nature while 13.4% are "compelled" to point out the drought? Seriously, pay attention ... you'll be amazed at how close my stats will match reality.
Even if it rains/snows for a whole year or more, & all the reservoirs are full to overflowing, it takes years & years of "wet" times to recharge aquifers/ groundwater after a prolonged drought, so, yes, a drought can still persist after what seems like prolonged "wet" times.
Also in many parts of the country factory farms have been sucking aquifers dry in a matter of decades that took 10's of 1000's of years to accumulate, no amount of "wet time" is gonna fix that.
^^^ Sideshow's comments above succinctly summarize the seeming paradox between recent wet weather and the continuation of drought conditions in the western US, particularly California
surprised the hell out of me, Sideshow... I didn't know you had it in ya
At this moment,Californian's in low land elevations are being evacuated. Yes,we are getting rain this year however it is now January and this current storm is very warm.The previous snow last week is melting.as high as 8,000 foot elevation.Today all of the major ski resorts around Lake Tahoe are closed due to RAIN.Rain melts snow.Many reservoir's are now letting letting water out so that all you folks living in flood prone low land houses will not flood away.and by the way,I do not believe California needs more reservoirs.We need less golf courses,less mindless water waste,more thoughtful landscaping,and a global plan to stop global warming.
To Be out of the drought?
It all about SNOWPACK storage in the Sierra Nevada Mountains
January 7, 2017 at 2:33 PM Nevada County OES would like to inform citizens that we are critically low on sand bags and all remaining sand bags have been distributed to the various locations. In the past 24hrs more than 10,000 sand bags have been issued to the community. Citizens should bring their own sand bags to fill at the county distribution sites as sand will still be available.
Ski season isn't over. There's a base of over 12 feet. One rain storm isn't going to deplete that. The upper mountains above 9500 are receiving snow at this moment. By this evening snow elevation should be back to about 7000 with another 10 feet of snow forecasted and another 2 atmospheric river storms.
Agreed Bart. I had a mammoth pass for about 12 years. Cost me 400 bucks in the beginning and topped out at about 750 bucks. I didn't renew a few years ago to shitty snow levels and adult responsibilities that caused me not to get my money back. I started just going to the local Los Angeles hills for about 50 bucks a lift. Then mammoth bought 2 of the 4 LA hills and now even these shitty hills are 100 bucks a ticket. Mammoth is also using dynamic pricing so like you said you have to purchase early and maybe you'll get a 95 lift ticket deal. Fuck that. How can a family of 4 afford that?
i bought a pass to snow valley in the Los Angeles hills this year. 150 bucks midweek. It's a small hill with spotty snow ( this year is great) but it is what it is. At least I can get some turns in.
Yes. It is good for pass holders. Now the pass works for Mammoth, June, Summit and Bear. They call it the cali4nia pass.
For the common folk, it blows. I used to love day trips to summit. First chair 50-60 lift ticket leave by 1pm and they would give you a 15 dollar voucher for a return trip.
Who wants to stay after 1pm in big bear anyway? Slush and traffic.
Hate to pop your happy ski bubble Racketmymind,but if you think that a 9000ft elevation of snow is going to be a nice day of skiing .....not.At least around the northern Sierras near Lake Tahoe.Mt Judah,by Sugar Bowl is 8200ft on it's peak.Squaw Peak is 8900ft at the highest- with High Camp of Squaw is 8200.And it is currently raining on that 12 foot base. North star and Heavenly Valley are only mid 8,000ft as well.There are higher peaks around Tahoe like Tallac and Rubicon but these are not ski resorts.Freel Peak on the eastern side of Tahoe is around 11,000ft but there is nothing on it.....including not many trees. I suppose if you only ski Mammoth ,which it around 11,000ft elevation there will be snow for skiing.
The positive thought of the day is that it's only January so the weather can and mostly change .
If you notice your "orange" atmospheric river out in the Pacific- that is a tropical atmosphere- warm.Hence today's melting snow.It seems that the cold front that Oregon (hi Surfdead & hi Judit) are getting stayed north.
Warm rain washing snow out of the sierra's into rivers not good for capturing large amounts of this runoff. Most will flow out the bay not into reservoir's like slow snow runoff.
...FLOOD WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT THROUGH WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON... THE FLOOD WATCH CONTINUES FOR * A PORTION OF NORTHERN CALIFORNIA... INCLUDING THE FOLLOWING BURNEY BASIN ... / EASTERN SHASTA COUNTY... CARQUINEZ STRAIT AND DELTA... CENTRAL SACRAMENTO VALLEY... CLEAR LAKE/SOUTHERN LAKE COUNTY... MOTHERLODE... MOUNTAINS SOUTHWESTERN SHASTA COUNTY TO NORTHERN LAKE COUNTY... NORTHEAST FOOTHILLS/SACRAMENTO VALLEY... NORTHERN SACRAMENTO VALLEY... NORTHERN SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY... SHASTA LAKE AREA / NORTHERN SHASTA COUNTY... SOUTHERN SACRAMENTO VALLEY... WEST SLOPE NORTHERN SIERRA NEVADA AND WESTERN PLUMAS COUNTY/LASSEN PARK. * THROUGH WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON * AN ATMOSPHERIC RIVER, A NARROW CORRIDOR OF CONCENTRATED MOISTURE, WILL PRODUCE A PROLONGED PERIOD OF MODERATE TO HEAVY RAIN ESPECIALLY THROUGH EARLY MONDAY. SNOW LEVELS EXPECTED TO REMAIN ABOVE PASS LEVELS DURING THE HEAVIEST PRECIPITATION. * RAINFALL TOTALS FROM SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY EXPECTED TO RANGE FROM 4 TO 6 INCHES IN THE CENTRAL VALLEY, 4 TO 8 INCHES IN THE COASTAL AND SHASTA MOUNTAINS, AND 7 TO 16 INCHES IN THE NORTHEAST FOOTHILLS, MOTHERLODE, WESTERN PLUMAS MOUNTAINS AND SIERRA NEVADA. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... A FLOOD WATCH MEANS THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR FLOODING BASED ON CURRENT FORECASTS. YOU SHOULD MONITOR THE LATEST FORECASTS AND BE ALERT FOR POSSIBLE FLOOD WARNINGS. THOSE LIVING IN AREAS PRONE TO FLOODING SHOULD BE PREPARED TO TAKE ACTION SHOULD FLOODING DEVELOP.
THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN SACRAMENTO HAS ISSUED A * FLOOD WARNING FOR URBAN AREAS AND SMALL STREAMS IN... COLUSA COUNTY IN CENTRAL CALIFORNIA... YOLO COUNTY IN CENTRAL CALIFORNIA... SUTTER COUNTY IN CENTRAL CALIFORNIA... SOLANO COUNTY IN CENTRAL CALIFORNIA... SOUTHWESTERN PLACER COUNTY IN CENTRAL CALIFORNIA... CENTRAL SHASTA COUNTY IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA... SOUTHWESTERN AMADOR COUNTY IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA... SACRAMENTO COUNTY IN CENTRAL CALIFORNIA... LAKE COUNTY IN CENTRAL CALIFORNIA... STANISLAUS COUNTY IN CENTRAL CALIFORNIA... SAN JOAQUIN COUNTY IN CENTRAL CALIFORNIA... SOUTHWESTERN CALAVERAS COUNTY IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA... WESTERN TEHAMA COUNTY IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA... SOUTHWESTERN BUTTE COUNTY IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA... GLENN COUNTY IN CENTRAL CALIFORNIA... SOUTHWESTERN YUBA COUNTY IN CENTRAL CALIFORNIA... * UNTIL 900 AM PST TUESDAY * AT 903 AM PST, REPORTING GAUGES INDICATE SEVERAL STREAMS WITHIN THE WARNING AREA RISING RAPIDLY. OVER AN INCH OF RAIN HAS FALLEN IN THE VALLEY WITH A FEW INCHES OF RAINFALL IN THE COASTAL RANGE AND ADJACENT FOOTHILLS OVER THE LAST 24 HOURS. * SOME LOCATIONS THAT WILL EXPERIENCE FLOODING INCLUDE... SACRAMENTO, STOCKTON, MODESTO, ELK GROVE, FAIRFIELD, VACAVILLE, REDDING, TRACY, TURLOCK, DAVIS, PITTSBURG, WOODLAND, CERES, GALT, OAKDALE, ORLAND, WILLOWS, LAKEPORT, ELK CREEK AND UPPER LAKE. ADDITIONAL RAINFALL AMOUNTS OF 2 TO 4 INCHES ARE POSSIBLE IN THE VALLEY... DELTA AND COASTAL RANGE OVER THE NEXT TWO DAYS. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... TURN AROUND, DON'T DROWN WHEN ENCOUNTERING FLOODED ROADS. MOST FLOOD DEATHS OCCUR IN VEHICLES. A FLOOD WARNING MEANS THAT FLOODING IS IMMINENT OR OCCURRING. ALL INTERESTED PARTIES SHOULD TAKE NECESSARY PRECAUTIONS IMMEDIATELY.
last time I skiied was Boreal Ridge, site of awful GD show...
It was Snow-drought that year, but they had Fake-Snow machinery. Really was OK for an old fellow who(m) had not been on the slopes in a long long time.
Even if it rains/snows for a whole year or more, & all the reservoirs are full to overflowing, it takes years & years of "wet" times to recharge aquifers/ groundwater after a prolonged drought, so, yes, a drought can still persist after what seems like prolonged "wet" times.<<<<
While this very well may be true to one extent or another, it still kinda comes across as being put forth to counter the suggestion of a "making significant progress" (of overcoming a drought) vs. a true "quantitative status report" . Not saying you're wrong sideshow, and I know this discussion is all under the "meta context" re: talking about this issue, but don't you think it'd be more enlightening and perhaps more "actionable" (i.e. related to conservation efforts) to put forth quantitative assessments of aquifier / ground water saturation status vs. vague way off in the distance undetermined values such as "years & years"? In this sense, at least there'd a "vector" involved. Just saying, if the optimism re: events which have appeared "on the surface" is going to be summarily thrashed, don't you think it'd be wise to relay as much information as possible to convey to people why they should take what they can sense with a grain of salt?
Hard to predict weather one week out, impossible to predict precip and temps years in advance. Thus, "years and years" is about the best we can do<<<
In the mountains, "percentage of average" re: snowpack is one metric which is used frequently, is there not a way to track the status of aquafers and graph past / current trends? Wouldn't it be more useful to say they've only risen 10% of average from 2015 to 2016?
>>>>>> surprised the hell out of me, Sideshow... I didn't know you had it in
Well if you think my support of fracking & the dakota pipeline makes me a right winger, you got that wrong. I'm an engineer, I form my opinions based on logic, science, alternatives analysis, etc. To me the climate change denying right wingers are just as idiotic as the pipeline opponents who don't even know what pipeline they're opposed to (us civil engineers call those types "BANANA's" (Built Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anything).
As for fracking & the pipeline(s): Those are "least bad" options for the short term future, as our society is simply not willing or able to stop using fossil fuels tomorrow or even in the next few decades. Those options are far better than importing oil/gas from Shitshow places like Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, Russia, or burning coal. And if the pipeline is not built, the dakota oil will be shipped vial rail/truck/barge, far more dangerous/fuel consuming. Yes, reroute it around the burial grounds, presuming they are known locations (in CT the 2 Casino tribes, who have lots of $$$$ & little to do w/it, have declared every square inch of the state "sacred burial grounds" - ummmmm, no . . . )
rained pretty hard here in the santa cruz mountains... nothing like '82, but enough to cause the typical problems we see every few years.
Summit road:
Highland road (I use this a lot to hit some of the best mountain biking on the planet)
Hwy 9 near Boulder Creek
and just a couple miles from my house... this one shut down hwy 17 this morning (KRON news truck took a direct hit... cameraman sustained minor injuries).
What a wild and wet weekend. Friday we got over 2 inches of rain Sat. almost 3 inches and Sunday almost 7 inches with heavy winds. I 80 near Donner Lake (Truckee) was closed both ways most of the night due to a mud slide. It did snow a few feet, all the rivers are at flood stage. Mud slides all over, trees down etc. Monday morning was dry. We made it done to San Rafael with no problem, things looked dry and the traffic was light. Had a nice lunch downtown, made it to the hotel no problem. Tomorrow more rain, I will be at the Dr's in SF getting more tests. Our plan is to go home right after but that could change. Cancer Sucks
Maybe next time Johnny, I need to be in SF early in the morning. I am beat from the weekend. I will be staying at the ES for 2 weeks very soon, will let you know when.
The drought ended last winter. We don't have a drought. We have a water storage problem because of the previous drought. Also, still low ground water levels.
I get annoyed at anyone who says we are in a drought when it is raining.
here's the "official" word on the matter from the U.S. Drought Monitor:
"After some of the heaviest rain and snow in decades, the U.S. Drought Monitor announced yesterday (January 12, 2017) that 42 percent of California has emerged from a five-year drought, while half of the state, all in the central and southern regions, still remains in severe drought or worse. Storms this week brought the Sierra Nevada its heaviest snow in six years and hit parts of Northern California with the most rain in two decades. The storms helped double vital snowpack in a week. The latest statistics show state reservoirs are now fuller than average for the first time in six years, but don't stop conserving yet. State officials say the governor will likely wait until spring to decide whether to lift the state's three-year drought emergency."
Great news,Gary! Things got really wild around here with heavy winds, lots of rain and mud slides all over. We got over 15" of rain since Sat. Today is clear and sunny, the first time I have seen blue skies in weeks. The ski resorts got over 10' of snow after the first round of snow melted from all the rain. Looks like more rain on Wed.
This sink hole happened less then a mile away from our house
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its the media.... they tend
its the media.... they tend to dwell on things, often grim news or the dark side.... and they have every single american brain washed right now with sound bytes and 'retorts'.
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California is in a water
California is in a water storage drought. We dump lots of water cause we don't have a place to keep it.
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see^^^^ tore up is totally
see^^^^ tore up is totally brain washed.... right here...... did you see that retort???? un fucking beliebable/.....
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Well for me living in the
Well for me living in the Sierra foothills it makes me sad seeing all the brown dead standing pine trees caused by the bark beetle. I have 150 trees being cut down right now on my hill where I live. The threat of wild fire is real.
Living in the drought area is real seeing it on TV is not.
Seeing the snow and rain here in the mountains makes everyone Happy.
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I don't disagree there's
I don't disagree there's still a drought and many locales are more severely affected than others, but I find it interesting how it's next to impossible to see a thread on a message board or news story re: "big snow / rain" continue without some mention of the drought. 84.2% of the people are happy to smile re: the good fortune of nature while 13.4% are "compelled" to point out the drought? Seriously, pay attention ... you'll be amazed at how close my stats will match reality.
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It's always the transplants
It's always the transplants complaints.
Fuck em'
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great question
great question
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Drought?
Drought?
What drought?
Every time I turn on the faucet water comes out.
Yes, I'm one of THEM.
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Drought?
Drought?
What drought?
Every time I turn on the faucet water comes out.
Yes, I'm one of THEM<<<<
Fair enough, I'm also one of "THEM" re: "blood for oil".
Blood?
What blood?
Every time I'm at the gas pump and press the lever, gas comes out
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https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov
https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/monitoring-content/temp-and-precip/us-weekly/c...
I dont know how to post pictures in zone 2.0 but the above link is the Palmer Drought Index. Looks like a good forecast to me!
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Here you can see the current
Here you can see the current and one month ago.
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/monitoring_and_data/drought.shtml
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Racket, there are picture
Racket, there are picture posting tutorials in the Techie Talk folder and in Formatting on the left side of main page.
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Even if it rains/snows for a
Even if it rains/snows for a whole year or more, & all the reservoirs are full to overflowing, it takes years & years of "wet" times to recharge aquifers/ groundwater after a prolonged drought, so, yes, a drought can still persist after what seems like prolonged "wet" times.
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Bingo
Bingo
It's getting bad around here with the worse of it hitting Sunday.
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Also in many parts of the
Also in many parts of the country factory farms have been sucking aquifers dry in a matter of decades that took 10's of 1000's of years to accumulate, no amount of "wet time" is gonna fix that.
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I don't eat pistachios or
I don't eat pistachios or almonds.
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^^^ Sideshow's comments above
^^^ Sideshow's comments above succinctly summarize the seeming paradox between recent wet weather and the continuation of drought conditions in the western US, particularly California
surprised the hell out of me, Sideshow... I didn't know you had it in ya
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the truth is, is that cali is
the truth is, is that cali is still in a drought, it will take a long time to charge up the deep aquafers, and all teh rivers...
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I don't eat pistachios or
But you do post pictures!
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At this moment,Californian's
At this moment,Californian's in low land elevations are being evacuated. Yes,we are getting rain this year however it is now January and this current storm is very warm.The previous snow last week is melting.as high as 8,000 foot elevation.Today all of the major ski resorts around Lake Tahoe are closed due to RAIN.Rain melts snow.Many reservoir's are now letting letting water out so that all you folks living in flood prone low land houses will not flood away.and by the way,I do not believe California needs more reservoirs.We need less golf courses,less mindless water waste,more thoughtful landscaping,and a global plan to stop global warming.
To Be out of the drought?
It all about SNOWPACK storage in the Sierra Nevada Mountains
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January 7, 2017 at 2:33 PM
January 7, 2017 at 2:33 PM Nevada County OES would like to inform citizens that we are critically low on sand bags and all remaining sand bags have been distributed to the various locations. In the past 24hrs more than 10,000 sand bags have been issued to the community. Citizens should bring their own sand bags to fill at the county distribution sites as sand will still be available.
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>>>>>the seeming paradox
>>>>>the seeming paradox between recent wet weather and the continuation of drought conditions
Just like how a decrease in the US budget deficit doesn't mean we've solved the debt problem.
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yeah, it seems that the ski
yeah, it seems that the ski season is over in the sierras at this point....... and cali is still in a drought.... rinsed off, but thirsty....
the good news is that it rained a shit ton, so maybe the drought is over?
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Ski season isn't over. There
look at all that orange!
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>a global plan to stop global
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>>umbrella properly placed
>>umbrella properly placed between the sun and the earth
Funny, was just reading about this in the newspaper this morning...
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It's the $150 a day lift
It's the $150 a day lift tickets that is going to end the ski season in the Sierra.
Yes you can find deals but you have to plan ahead or have other means of finding cheap tickets.
Then the hotel rooms are not cheap, food for the family, gas, The list never ends.
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Agreed Bart. I had a mammoth
Agreed Bart. I had a mammoth pass for about 12 years. Cost me 400 bucks in the beginning and topped out at about 750 bucks. I didn't renew a few years ago to shitty snow levels and adult responsibilities that caused me not to get my money back. I started just going to the local Los Angeles hills for about 50 bucks a lift. Then mammoth bought 2 of the 4 LA hills and now even these shitty hills are 100 bucks a ticket. Mammoth is also using dynamic pricing so like you said you have to purchase early and maybe you'll get a 95 lift ticket deal. Fuck that. How can a family of 4 afford that?
i bought a pass to snow valley in the Los Angeles hills this year. 150 bucks midweek. It's a small hill with spotty snow ( this year is great) but it is what it is. At least I can get some turns in.
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Which two LA mountains did
Which two LA mountains did Mammoth buy? Snow Summitt and Bear Mountain?
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Yes. It is good for pass
Yes. It is good for pass holders. Now the pass works for Mammoth, June, Summit and Bear. They call it the cali4nia pass.
For the common folk, it blows. I used to love day trips to summit. First chair 50-60 lift ticket leave by 1pm and they would give you a 15 dollar voucher for a return trip.
Who wants to stay after 1pm in big bear anyway? Slush and traffic.
Now its 80-100 bucks no voucher. Boo.
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It's either snowing or
It's either snowing or raining everywhere but in
Florida at the moment..
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Hate to pop your happy ski
Hate to pop your happy ski bubble Racketmymind,but if you think that a 9000ft elevation of snow is going to be a nice day of skiing .....not.At least around the northern Sierras near Lake Tahoe.Mt Judah,by Sugar Bowl is 8200ft on it's peak.Squaw Peak is 8900ft at the highest- with High Camp of Squaw is 8200.And it is currently raining on that 12 foot base. North star and Heavenly Valley are only mid 8,000ft as well.There are higher peaks around Tahoe like Tallac and Rubicon but these are not ski resorts.Freel Peak on the eastern side of Tahoe is around 11,000ft but there is nothing on it.....including not many trees. I suppose if you only ski Mammoth ,which it around 11,000ft elevation there will be snow for skiing.
The positive thought of the day is that it's only January so the weather can and mostly change .
If you notice your "orange" atmospheric river out in the Pacific- that is a tropical atmosphere- warm.Hence today's melting snow.It seems that the cold front that Oregon (hi Surfdead & hi Judit) are getting stayed north.
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i heard the drought is over?
i heard the drought is over?
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k9BRn5IIMlg
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Heaviest precipitation today,
Heaviest precipitation today, heavy mountain snow Monday through Wednesday
http://yubanet.com/regional/heaviest-precipitation-today-heavy-mountain-...
Today is not just the heavy rains it is really windy out.
We will see the same problem as in 2005, Contractors in the valley building housing developments in 100 year flood zones.
Sacramento will see some flooding from all this so will Reno on the other side.
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Warm rain washing snow out of
Warm rain washing snow out of the sierra's into rivers not good for capturing large amounts of this runoff. Most will flow out the bay not into reservoir's like slow snow runoff.
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Lol, at be nice. Where have
Lol, at be nice. Where have I said anything about Tahoe. Why don't you eat a pickle, and be nice.
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This sums up what is
This sums up what is happening in Northern Ca.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/rivers-rise-massive-storm-moves-northern-cali...
I agree with oakster
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... FLOOD WATCH REMAINS IN
From National weather service..
...FLOOD WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT THROUGH WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON... THE FLOOD WATCH CONTINUES FOR * A PORTION OF NORTHERN CALIFORNIA... INCLUDING THE FOLLOWING BURNEY BASIN ... / EASTERN SHASTA COUNTY... CARQUINEZ STRAIT AND DELTA... CENTRAL SACRAMENTO VALLEY... CLEAR LAKE/SOUTHERN LAKE COUNTY... MOTHERLODE... MOUNTAINS SOUTHWESTERN SHASTA COUNTY TO NORTHERN LAKE COUNTY... NORTHEAST FOOTHILLS/SACRAMENTO VALLEY... NORTHERN SACRAMENTO VALLEY... NORTHERN SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY... SHASTA LAKE AREA / NORTHERN SHASTA COUNTY... SOUTHERN SACRAMENTO VALLEY... WEST SLOPE NORTHERN SIERRA NEVADA AND WESTERN PLUMAS COUNTY/LASSEN PARK. * THROUGH WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON * AN ATMOSPHERIC RIVER, A NARROW CORRIDOR OF CONCENTRATED MOISTURE, WILL PRODUCE A PROLONGED PERIOD OF MODERATE TO HEAVY RAIN ESPECIALLY THROUGH EARLY MONDAY. SNOW LEVELS EXPECTED TO REMAIN ABOVE PASS LEVELS DURING THE HEAVIEST PRECIPITATION. * RAINFALL TOTALS FROM SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY EXPECTED TO RANGE FROM 4 TO 6 INCHES IN THE CENTRAL VALLEY, 4 TO 8 INCHES IN THE COASTAL AND SHASTA MOUNTAINS, AND 7 TO 16 INCHES IN THE NORTHEAST FOOTHILLS, MOTHERLODE, WESTERN PLUMAS MOUNTAINS AND SIERRA NEVADA. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... A FLOOD WATCH MEANS THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR FLOODING BASED ON CURRENT FORECASTS. YOU SHOULD MONITOR THE LATEST FORECASTS AND BE ALERT FOR POSSIBLE FLOOD WARNINGS. THOSE LIVING IN AREAS PRONE TO FLOODING SHOULD BE PREPARED TO TAKE ACTION SHOULD FLOODING DEVELOP.
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THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE
THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN SACRAMENTO HAS ISSUED A * FLOOD WARNING FOR URBAN AREAS AND SMALL STREAMS IN... COLUSA COUNTY IN CENTRAL CALIFORNIA... YOLO COUNTY IN CENTRAL CALIFORNIA... SUTTER COUNTY IN CENTRAL CALIFORNIA... SOLANO COUNTY IN CENTRAL CALIFORNIA... SOUTHWESTERN PLACER COUNTY IN CENTRAL CALIFORNIA... CENTRAL SHASTA COUNTY IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA... SOUTHWESTERN AMADOR COUNTY IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA... SACRAMENTO COUNTY IN CENTRAL CALIFORNIA... LAKE COUNTY IN CENTRAL CALIFORNIA... STANISLAUS COUNTY IN CENTRAL CALIFORNIA... SAN JOAQUIN COUNTY IN CENTRAL CALIFORNIA... SOUTHWESTERN CALAVERAS COUNTY IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA... WESTERN TEHAMA COUNTY IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA... SOUTHWESTERN BUTTE COUNTY IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA... GLENN COUNTY IN CENTRAL CALIFORNIA... SOUTHWESTERN YUBA COUNTY IN CENTRAL CALIFORNIA... * UNTIL 900 AM PST TUESDAY * AT 903 AM PST, REPORTING GAUGES INDICATE SEVERAL STREAMS WITHIN THE WARNING AREA RISING RAPIDLY. OVER AN INCH OF RAIN HAS FALLEN IN THE VALLEY WITH A FEW INCHES OF RAINFALL IN THE COASTAL RANGE AND ADJACENT FOOTHILLS OVER THE LAST 24 HOURS. * SOME LOCATIONS THAT WILL EXPERIENCE FLOODING INCLUDE... SACRAMENTO, STOCKTON, MODESTO, ELK GROVE, FAIRFIELD, VACAVILLE, REDDING, TRACY, TURLOCK, DAVIS, PITTSBURG, WOODLAND, CERES, GALT, OAKDALE, ORLAND, WILLOWS, LAKEPORT, ELK CREEK AND UPPER LAKE. ADDITIONAL RAINFALL AMOUNTS OF 2 TO 4 INCHES ARE POSSIBLE IN THE VALLEY... DELTA AND COASTAL RANGE OVER THE NEXT TWO DAYS. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... TURN AROUND, DON'T DROWN WHEN ENCOUNTERING FLOODED ROADS. MOST FLOOD DEATHS OCCUR IN VEHICLES. A FLOOD WARNING MEANS THAT FLOODING IS IMMINENT OR OCCURRING. ALL INTERESTED PARTIES SHOULD TAKE NECESSARY PRECAUTIONS IMMEDIATELY.
Issuing Office: Sacramento
Source: National.Weather.Service
9:13am PST, Sun Jan 8
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cali is still in a drought!!!
cali is still in a drought!!!
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Most big droughts end in a
Most big droughts end in a great flood.
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last time I skiied was Boreal
last time I skiied was Boreal Ridge, site of awful GD show...
It was Snow-drought that year, but they had Fake-Snow machinery. Really was OK for an old fellow who(m) had not been on the slopes in a long long time.
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i shall now call you disco
i shall now call you disco stewart 1 .
that is all....
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Quadruple J --
Quadruple J --
It just so happened that Stewart ! was a Friend of a Friend, and it all worked out like that.
Really, I actually put skiis on my feeet and rolled down the Hill.
Look how clean the sky was, that Day. No Chemtrails at all. That's because my Ski-Suit is all woven with Orgonite.
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the gloves.... my god... its
the gloves.... my god... its the gloves!!!
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Droughts over!
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Even if it rains/snows for a
Even if it rains/snows for a whole year or more, & all the reservoirs are full to overflowing, it takes years & years of "wet" times to recharge aquifers/ groundwater after a prolonged drought, so, yes, a drought can still persist after what seems like prolonged "wet" times.<<<<
While this very well may be true to one extent or another, it still kinda comes across as being put forth to counter the suggestion of a "making significant progress" (of overcoming a drought) vs. a true "quantitative status report" . Not saying you're wrong sideshow, and I know this discussion is all under the "meta context" re: talking about this issue, but don't you think it'd be more enlightening and perhaps more "actionable" (i.e. related to conservation efforts) to put forth quantitative assessments of aquifier / ground water saturation status vs. vague way off in the distance undetermined values such as "years & years"? In this sense, at least there'd a "vector" involved. Just saying, if the optimism re: events which have appeared "on the surface" is going to be summarily thrashed, don't you think it'd be wise to relay as much information as possible to convey to people why they should take what they can sense with a grain of salt?
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Hard to predict weather one
Hard to predict weather one week out, impossible to predict precip and temps years in advance. Thus, "years and years" is about the best we can do.
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I can see 19.5 taking 30+
I can see 19.5 taking 30+ minutes to pick out a muffin.
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Hard to predict weather one
Hard to predict weather one week out, impossible to predict precip and temps years in advance. Thus, "years and years" is about the best we can do<<<
In the mountains, "percentage of average" re: snowpack is one metric which is used frequently, is there not a way to track the status of aquafers and graph past / current trends? Wouldn't it be more useful to say they've only risen 10% of average from 2015 to 2016?
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Silly ned, pastries are easy
Silly ned, pastries are easy ... especially if there's a "doughsant" or "cronut" as an option.
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>>>>>> surprised the hell out
>>>>>> surprised the hell out of me, Sideshow... I didn't know you had it in
Well if you think my support of fracking & the dakota pipeline makes me a right winger, you got that wrong. I'm an engineer, I form my opinions based on logic, science, alternatives analysis, etc. To me the climate change denying right wingers are just as idiotic as the pipeline opponents who don't even know what pipeline they're opposed to (us civil engineers call those types "BANANA's" (Built Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anything).
As for fracking & the pipeline(s): Those are "least bad" options for the short term future, as our society is simply not willing or able to stop using fossil fuels tomorrow or even in the next few decades. Those options are far better than importing oil/gas from Shitshow places like Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, Russia, or burning coal. And if the pipeline is not built, the dakota oil will be shipped vial rail/truck/barge, far more dangerous/fuel consuming. Yes, reroute it around the burial grounds, presuming they are known locations (in CT the 2 Casino tribes, who have lots of $$$$ & little to do w/it, have declared every square inch of the state "sacred burial grounds" - ummmmm, no . . . )
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rained pretty hard here in
rained pretty hard here in the santa cruz mountains... nothing like '82, but enough to cause the typical problems we see every few years.
Summit road:
Highland road (I use this a lot to hit some of the best mountain biking on the planet)
Hwy 9 near Boulder Creek
and just a couple miles from my house... this one shut down hwy 17 this morning (KRON news truck took a direct hit... cameraman sustained minor injuries).
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>>>>>>> KRON news truck took
>>>>>>> KRON news truck took a direct hit..
Well I guess that's an Exclusive lol
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They've (Central Valley
They've (Central Valley Farmers) pumped so much groundwater during this drought it's not funny.
Central Valley sinking fast in drought, NASA study shows...
Groundwater pumping worsens subsidence problem
Some parts of San Joaquin Valley dropping 2 inches per month
Pumping regulations not in effect until 2020
http://www.sacbee.com/news/state/california/water-and-drought/article315...
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so, nugs.... your suggesting
so, nugs.... your suggesting that cali is still in a drought??
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What a wild and wet weekend.
What a wild and wet weekend. Friday we got over 2 inches of rain Sat. almost 3 inches and Sunday almost 7 inches with heavy winds. I 80 near Donner Lake (Truckee) was closed both ways most of the night due to a mud slide. It did snow a few feet, all the rivers are at flood stage. Mud slides all over, trees down etc. Monday morning was dry. We made it done to San Rafael with no problem, things looked dry and the traffic was light. Had a nice lunch downtown, made it to the hotel no problem. Tomorrow more rain, I will be at the Dr's in SF getting more tests. Our plan is to go home right after but that could change. Cancer Sucks
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Glad you guys had no problems
Glad you guys had no problems in your travels, Bart.
Cancer sucks, indeed.
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Bart, I'm hoping to go to TXR
Bart, I'm hoping to go to TXR for the free bar show tonight. If you're not too tired, I'll look for you.
Otherwise, you have my best wishes.
Cancer SUCKS
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Maybe next time Johnny, I
Maybe next time Johnny, I need to be in SF early in the morning. I am beat from the weekend. I will be staying at the ES for 2 weeks very soon, will let you know when.
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Alright, rest up.
Alright, rest up.
And give my best to BeNice.
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The drought ended last winter
The drought ended last winter. We don't have a drought. We have a water storage problem because of the previous drought. Also, still low ground water levels.
I get annoyed at anyone who says we are in a drought when it is raining.
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here's the "official" word on
here's the "official" word on the matter from the U.S. Drought Monitor:
"After some of the heaviest rain and snow in decades, the U.S. Drought Monitor announced yesterday (January 12, 2017) that 42 percent of California has emerged from a five-year drought, while half of the state, all in the central and southern regions, still remains in severe drought or worse. Storms this week brought the Sierra Nevada its heaviest snow in six years and hit parts of Northern California with the most rain in two decades. The storms helped double vital snowpack in a week. The latest statistics show state reservoirs are now fuller than average for the first time in six years, but don't stop conserving yet. State officials say the governor will likely wait until spring to decide whether to lift the state's three-year drought emergency."
http://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/
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Great news,Gary! Things got
Great news,Gary! Things got really wild around here with heavy winds, lots of rain and mud slides all over. We got over 15" of rain since Sat. Today is clear and sunny, the first time I have seen blue skies in weeks. The ski resorts got over 10' of snow after the first round of snow melted from all the rain. Looks like more rain on Wed.
This sink hole happened less then a mile away from our house
http://yubanet.com/regional/aerial-video-of-the-wolf-creek-sinkhole-in-g...