One elephant in the room I’ve observed here lately is a somewhat militant insistence to have any dissent silenced in regards to an election stolen in broad daylight, that’s interesting...
a) why?
b) when has that sort of thing happened before in history?
c) how did that end?
Another discussion I feel as if I have a right to initiate:
What are the unforeseen consequences of systematic curtailment of free speech to facilitate a stolen election?
Please discuss...
Namaste
ॐ
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Friday, January 22, 2021 – 02:52 pm
It gives idiots without any
It gives idiots without any common sense something to believe in?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: An organ grinder’s tune Turtle
on Friday, January 22, 2021 – 02:54 pm
please stop with the al gore
please stop with the al gore threads.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Druba Noodler
on Friday, January 22, 2021 – 02:55 pm
1). Because liars have their
<< Why?
1). Because liars have their pants on fire, and as loving caring individuals, we try and put that fire out (before you burn your seditious traitorous nuts off). It's not censorship, it's soap washing your filthy mouth out
<< when has this happened historically?
2). To many elementary (and younger) school children who lie over and over again (sadly, your cult hero never emotionally got out of the 3rd grade)
<<Results?
3). They hopefully learned manners and respect for the telling of the truth... (or, they became president, and kick their golf balls from the rough to the greens, drive their carts all over the course, and other acts of lies, or at least, very boorish behavior)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: intentionally blank mikeedwardsetc
on Friday, January 22, 2021 – 03:01 pm
> a somewhat militant
> a somewhat militant insistence to have any dissent silenced
It's not silencing dissent when it's fact-checking. Fuck off, troll.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Thumbkinetic (Bluestnote)
on Friday, January 22, 2021 – 03:11 pm
Fuck this guy. At long last,
Fuck this guy. At long last, give him nothing but tumbleweeds.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Friday, January 22, 2021 – 03:30 pm
>> What are the unforeseen
>> What are the unforeseen consequences of systematic curtailment of free speech to facilitate a stolen election? <<
Please provide an example of how and when this happened.
Are you talking about Twitter and Facebook locking Trump's accounts? If so, he had a press room that would fill with reporters anytime he wanted. Heck, he could get a live feed on national TV anytime he wanted. If you actually think Trump was "silenced" by social media, you're too far gone to help....
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Highnote Stringtwang
on Friday, January 22, 2021 – 03:40 pm
St. Stephen!!!!!!!
St. Stephen!!!!!!!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Friday, January 22, 2021 – 03:44 pm
Does bry understand that no
Does bry understand that no one curtailed anyone's freedom of speech? Has he Actually read the amendment?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: intentionally blank mikeedwardsetc
on Friday, January 22, 2021 – 03:47 pm
All Bryen needs to read are
All Bryen needs to read are his own posts to see that his freedom of speech hasn't been curtailed.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 19.5 Degrees FaceOnMars
on Friday, January 22, 2021 – 03:57 pm
a.) seditious
a.) seditious
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: aiq aiq
on Friday, January 22, 2021 – 04:21 pm
>>>an election stolen in
>>>an election stolen in broad daylight, that’s interesting...
Still spewing treason. Why not banned?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Friday, January 22, 2021 – 04:33 pm
Face the music bry...you were
Face the music bry...you were duped!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bryen Bryen
on Friday, January 22, 2021 – 04:33 pm
AIQ...I'm curious, why do you think we left England?
Thanks
I'll wait, thanks :)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Friday, January 22, 2021 – 04:39 pm
Don't hold your breath.
Don't hold your breath.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Druba Noodler
on Friday, January 22, 2021 – 04:39 pm
and the cra cra train goes
and the cra cra train goes off the rails again...
(cue sad trombone)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Friday, January 22, 2021 – 04:43 pm
WE didn't
WE didn't
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Friday, January 22, 2021 – 04:59 pm
Oxymoron
Oxymoron
moron on oxy
there: I gave you a little bit of attention that you seem so desperate for
if you are good for a few weeks. (silent if not unrepentant)
I may come to the white courtesy phone. (FYI I was 60 yards away from that spot 19 hours ago.....still smiles and chills)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bryen Bryen
on Friday, January 22, 2021 – 05:02 pm
https://youtu.be/H9xg16sxgdA
Jerry singing about the spirit of democracy...the divine accolade of humanity
July 7th, 1989 [the last great tour]
the birthplace of the republic
https://youtu.be/H9xg16sxgdA
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Friday, January 22, 2021 – 05:21 pm
Our country was founded by
Our country was founded by some folks who didn't agree with their government so left to go form their own instead of sitting home boo hooing about it. Real estate may be a lil more scarce these days but I'm sure you could setup a cute lil colony somewhere. You may have to defeat some locals to get started but with your persuasive abilities, they may eventually join you and you could let them live on a piece of your newly conquered land.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: intentionally blank mikeedwardsetc
on Friday, January 22, 2021 – 05:23 pm
I hear Russia's nice this
I hear Russia's nice this time of year.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Druba Noodler
on Friday, January 22, 2021 – 05:28 pm
Dubai has better golf courses
Dubai has better golf courses (closer to hell temperatures)
Fly Aeroflot Now!!!
This comment was sponsored by the UAR
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bryen Bryen
on Friday, January 22, 2021 – 05:33 pm
https://youtu.be/QwaKQvwMIe8
in attendance from Foxboro to Berkeley, the last great tour, or more simply put...why we left England
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Alan R StoneSculptor
on Friday, January 22, 2021 – 05:37 pm
Ha Ha you were duped!
Ha Ha you were duped!
You are one big sucker.
You can stamp your little foot until you're pooped.
All you got is left is Carlson Tucker.
QAnon will soon be gone,
as will the NRA.
Jerry Falwell Jr fled at dawn,
Rush is on his way.
Must be hard to live year after year after year,
with somebody else's thoughts in your head.
But you'll believe anything they say to fear,
ever since your brain was fried. By the Grateful Dead.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bryen Bryen
on Friday, January 22, 2021 – 05:38 pm
^ narc
^ narc...seriously, heavy narc energy...a grown man?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Alan R StoneSculptor
on Friday, January 22, 2021 – 05:41 pm
That's mighty creative of you
That's mighty creative of you asshole. That's the best Zonin you got? Loser (again)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bryen Bryen
on Friday, January 22, 2021 – 05:43 pm
Are you now or have you ever been a narc?
Thanks, asking for a friend
How many people have you put behind the bars of the war on drugs?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Druba Noodler
on Friday, January 22, 2021 – 05:45 pm
Yes, the war on drugs, a
Yes, the war on drugs, a right wing war against hippies and blacks... another excellent example to be against Republicans!
(this comment sponsored by Nancy's war on drugs, paid for by Sheldon Adelson)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: intentionally blank mikeedwardsetc
on Friday, January 22, 2021 – 05:45 pm
What's with all the cop
What's with all the cop questions, Bwy?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bryen Bryen
on Friday, January 22, 2021 – 05:48 pm
It seems as if the silence is deafening....Maryland, scumbag capital of Narcopia
[[[the last vestige of scumbagness...throwing out the narc vibe]]]
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Friday, January 22, 2021 – 05:48 pm
I would ask byren why he
I would ask byren why he never answers questions, but why bother, right?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Alan R StoneSculptor
on Friday, January 22, 2021 – 05:49 pm
When you can't think of an
When you can't think of an original thing to say, the mind reverts to the simplest of insults.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bryen Bryen
on Friday, January 22, 2021 – 05:51 pm
Alan is a scumbag narc
Alan is a scumbag narc...own it!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly Orange County Lumber Truck
on Friday, January 22, 2021 – 05:52 pm
>I'm curious, why do you think we left England<
They were murderous savages determined to steal land and commit genocide under the guise of religious freedom?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bryen Bryen
on Friday, January 22, 2021 – 05:54 pm
...add Lumber [I went to Wisconsin that one time] to the list
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Friday, January 22, 2021 – 05:56 pm
You don't seem so
You don't seem so unconditionally lovey today...is it because Qhorns isn't interested in tummy sticks anymore? It's ok, we knew your Schtick was bullshit all along so you can skip it from now on. Makes you look like more of an idiot anyway and you really don't need help with that
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Alan R StoneSculptor
on Friday, January 22, 2021 – 06:02 pm
Bry is having a melty.
Bry is having a melty.
Do you think it was the rhyme "duped" with "pooped" that set him off? I thought it was pretty good for a happy hour poem.
I guess we should cut him some slack seeing how 4 years of his life was just proven a complete and utter sham. Duped!? Can you believe it? I mean he just spent all that money on a fur hat and a Viking helmet.
Relax bro -- maybe you can return your insurrection costume once you get the pepper spray odor out of it.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Friday, January 22, 2021 – 06:02 pm
Same reason every other sock
Same reason every other sock troll doesn't answer questions, Ned. It wouldn't be trolling.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Friday, January 22, 2021 – 06:13 pm
>Alan is a scumbag narc..
>Alan is a scumbag narc...own it!
That's not true and not very kind, ''Bryen'
He wouldn't know truth or kindness; he's just a pathetic troll.
Bless his heart
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Druba Noodler
on Friday, January 22, 2021 – 06:18 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ukg6QH68Tw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0afmNYgFPc8
(my apologies to Randy Rainbow for not being used in this post).
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bryen Bryen
on Friday, January 22, 2021 – 06:19 pm
https://vimeo.com/127895701
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Friday, January 22, 2021 – 06:33 pm
>>why do you think we left
>>why do you think we left England
Well, it all started at the end of the French-Indian War. The colonists came to realize that their soldiers, who fought alongside the Brits, were paid about 1/3. They also realized that the Brits were beatable.
About 1/4 of British colonial subjects lived in North America. The King restricted their movement. They also had to pay taxes to England to cover their own security, the British military presence. This was unique to the entire British Empire.
The Colonists were pretty bummed, and at the Conference of Albany proposed a union of the colonies, as a way to lobby the Brits. From there it became action/reaction. The Colonists were treated like petulant children with all sorts of Acts, and their reactions became bigger, yielding harsher and more restrictive Acts. Many people don't realize the tipping point, the Stamp Act. This was the one that affected everyone.
You see, candles were super expensive and most households only had one to burn sparingly. The only thing they could do after dark was play cards. That was the #1 form of entertainment. Those cards had to be made in England, or they were super taxed. If you were found making your own, you could be carted off to England to be tried by a jury of not your peers, and given harsh sentences. The Colonists were pissed, and that's when it really heated up.
Interestingly, many of the first 10 Amendments, the Bill of Rights, are direct responses to those Acts imposed by the Brits, the last and harshest collectively known as the Intolerable Acts. They were so intolerable that they became the fuse in the powder keg of revolution.
Oh, was that a rhetorical question? Either way, it really isn't pertinent to what's going on today. Even the Gay Pride Boyz, Electric Boogaloo Boys, and Queefanon have equal representation at local, state and federal levels. Their votes are equal to everyone else's. They just don't like that their Trumpfuck lost and are throwing temper tantrums.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bryen Bryen
on Saturday, January 23, 2021 – 02:44 am
Alan does strike me as a bit narcy...but maybe that's just my heightened state of intuition, he does have a super-narcy vibe though, always casting aspersions on people that chose to leave their comfort zone and travel beyond their zip code to see shows, I see how Biden appeals to people that never traveled to see Garcia, people that claim the grapes were sour, very Bidenesque.
I remember living with no electricity for years in the deep woods of the Pacific Northwest, we'd play chess by candlelight.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Saturday, January 23, 2021 – 02:54 am
Just wow .......wow
Just wow .......wow
zip code hero rambles on
repetition makes it true. ... trumpian to the core?
I guess you convinced yourself. Well that at least makes one....
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Don Volume Burnz
on Saturday, January 23, 2021 – 03:41 am
You have to admire his
You have to admire his dedication, it's almost like performance art at this point.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bryen Bryen
on Saturday, January 23, 2021 – 03:52 am
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Crumb
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Druba Noodler
on Saturday, January 23, 2021 – 03:56 am
(No subject)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bryen Bryen
on Saturday, January 23, 2021 – 04:04 am
The conspiracy theory is the legitimacy of Biden's presidency...but I'm sure you already knew that.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Druba Noodler
on Saturday, January 23, 2021 – 05:47 am
How many posts did you make
How many posts did you make about the alleged coup Bry, only to have you jack off to your insurrectionists buddies actually attempting a coup, killing cops, chanting hang pence, kill pelosi, kill the jews... perhaps you didn't see enough of Jerry to realize how wrong you were, continue to be, and could possibly see some jail time for your words and deeds, though maybe not the decades to life your cop killing, democracy destroying clones of yours will be seeing...
But alas, you're unable to see truth, know facts, or even give them consideration... but you're excellent at trolling this place with true redundancy, suppose pedophile racists are like that, consistent...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: smiley 73guy
on Saturday, January 23, 2021 – 06:15 am
Even Republicans are ready to
Even Republicans are ready to kick Donald to the curb.
They are circulating an 8 point memo encouraging conviction in the Senate.
They are tired of his lies about the election and his lies to his followers that lead to a violent Insurrection, killing 5 at the Capitol.
Only low information dead enders are left around this failed president and failed human being....willing marks.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: skyjunk fabes
on Saturday, January 23, 2021 – 06:31 am
As the lies continue to
As the lies continue to unravel
Bryen's mind is still unwilling to travel
down the road and into the ditch
haven't we had enough of this bitch?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: skyjunk fabes
on Saturday, January 23, 2021 – 06:34 am
I apologize to female dogs,
I apologize to female dogs, that was uncalled for
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bryen Bryen
on Saturday, January 23, 2021 – 07:48 am
"jail time for your words"
Who's the fascist?
Interesting, and somewhat revealing, after the theft...curtailment of speech, somehow labeling dissent or stating the obvious that the election was stolen as a thought crime, how convenient
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Saturday, January 23, 2021 – 08:24 am
Do you understand what
Do you understand what freedom of speech is? I'd like to hear your thoughts on whose constitutional rights regarding freedom of speech were violated with specific examples.
I'll wait
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Saturday, January 23, 2021 – 09:03 am
I spent all that time and
I spent all that time and effort on the roots of the Revolution, and not even a acknowledgement? I even traveled to see Garcia. I'm deeply hurt.
I have an old friend that I was pretty close with. We were roomies on and off for years, and saw a lot of shows together. After a lifetime of alcohol abuse he got pretty bad wet brain. At a Hampton Phish show he lost his shit and went crazy. Ever since he has been a conspiracy theorist. One is that he is a joint experiment between the CIA and Nazis, bred with superpowers and put here to infiltrate the Dead and Phish scenes. He even saw his file in the Navy Intelligence bunker.
He's been prattling on about pedo stuff since then, and now says he was the original Q. I parted ways with him a few years ago because he's a douchebag, but check his FB page daily in fascination. It's all pro Trump, Q, Commie, Fascist craziness. Here's a couple from the last 24 hours:
"Eric Swalwell shamelessly fu**s Chinese spies & gladly takes their $$$ to become a US Congressman. Yet, he's somehow an "impeachment manager" @ Donald Trump's trial. The anti-American evil Demoncraps are all fu**ing traitors. Every last 1 of them."
"Trump was BY FAR the greatest US President in history. Now, we're all doomed to an Earth entirely run by Satanists, transvestites, Communist heathens & billionaire pedophiles."
Now, keep in mind that this dude has serious wet brain, is a convicted felon, an admitted sex addict, abused any other drug than opiates, and has also spent time in institutions. Is this the profile of many of the Trumpfucks around here?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: fishcane fishcane
on Saturday, January 23, 2021 – 09:25 am
Still waiting
Still waiting
not surprisingly
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Saturday, January 23, 2021 – 09:40 am
How did he miss opiates?
How did he miss opiates?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: skyjunk fabes
on Saturday, January 23, 2021 – 10:57 am
"Shouting fire in a crowded
"Shouting fire in a crowded theater" is a popular analogy for speech or actions made for the principal purpose of creating panic. The phrase is a paraphrasing of Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.'s opinion in the United States Supreme Court case Schenck v. United States in 1919, which held that the defendant's speech in opposition to the draft during World War I was not protected free speech under the First Amendment of the United States Constitution. The case was later partially overturned by Brandenburg v. Ohio in 1969, which limited the scope of banned speech to that which would be directed to and likely to incite imminent lawless action (e.g. a riot).[1]
The paraphrasing differs from Holmes's original wording in that it typically does not include the word falsely, while also adding the word "crowded" to describe the theatre.[2] The original wording used in Holmes's opinion ("falsely shouting fire in a theatre and causing a panic") highlights that speech that is dangerous and false is not protected, as opposed to speech that is dangerous but also true.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: intentionally blank mikeedwardsetc
on Saturday, January 23, 2021 – 11:02 am
FIREF i r e o n t h e M o
FIRE
F i r e o n t h e M o u n t a i n
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: skyjunk fabes
on Saturday, January 23, 2021 – 02:13 pm
What I cannot wrap my head
What I cannot wrap my head around is;
Republicans held the white house
the three states that were contested were republicans states
republicans and democrats work side by side on Election Day
the courts in each of these republican states ruled against almost all legal battles against Trump to overturn
How did the Democrats pull it off?
if true it make the Republican leadership under Trump look totally inept and stupid, coupled with Covid response, the insurrection, it appears they have the barrel of the gun pointed at their own Temple and are about to pull the trigger. Oh boy and they may spilt into two parties
From here it looks like insurrection is the only card to play. We all know they will not change philosophy and try to attract more, brown and poor voters. Well they have the poor vote in rural areas but the Democratic school system in the cities have just made the city power too smart to fall for it all.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Saturday, January 23, 2021 – 02:17 pm
>What I cannot wrap my head
>What I cannot wrap my head around is;
you must first wrap your head in tinfoil, dude.
(cultists don't question the false premise of their beliefs)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Saturday, January 23, 2021 – 02:23 pm
https://www.kqed.org/science
https://www.kqed.org/science/1972169/why-so-many-people-believe-trump-re...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: aiq aiq
on Saturday, January 23, 2021 – 02:29 pm
A mob, incited by the
A mob, incited by the president of the United States, stormed the halls of Congress in an effort to prevent it from certifying Trump's electoral defeat. During the attack, the mob killed a police officer and went looking for the Vice President and members of Congress.
Trump installed sycophants in the three top civilian positions of the DOD six days after the election who were instrumental in delaying a response to the Trump riot.
Trump himself did nothing to stop the riot instead enjoying it on tv. He did not even bother to check on his Vice President for whom the mob was calling out to be hung.
As the Congress reconvened to certify the EC votes many GOP House members raised the false argument that the election was tainted.
Every single point made by these traitors was refuted four or five times each in the nearly 70 court cases that killed Trump's lies, three from the Supreme Court with three Trump appointees.
To persist in this coup attempt is not only devoid of intelligence it is treason at this point.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: skyjunk fabes
on Saturday, January 23, 2021 – 02:55 pm
Nancy, I really can wrap my
Nancy, I really can wrap my head around it, and I also need to fix my auto spell mistake, fuckin ai
Well they have the poor vote in rural areas but the Democratic school system in the cities have just made the city poor too smart to fall for it all.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: skyjunk fabes
on Saturday, January 23, 2021 – 02:57 pm
aig, you are have just too
aig, you have just too much good sense in there for some to understand
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Saturday, January 23, 2021 – 02:57 pm
>>How did he miss opiates?
>>How did he miss opiates?
Beats me, but it's too bad. Probably would have chilled him the fuck out and done less damage than the booze and blow.