Had another " drug dog" experience today.

Maybe that's why the dogs are "retired"?

where's disco stu?

The husky ate him.

Maybe the dogs have Covid?

howdy, jazfish,   here's several possibilities...

dogs are union and not alerting off-the-clock

dogs already have enough weed, so decided to let you go.....this time

maybe you put off a calm vibe, the dogs picked up on it and decided not to snitch on you.....this time

also, and most likely the case, as documented in movies, drug dogs only respond to 1 or more kilos......never seen a movie where anyone goes down for a one-hitter.

a lot to ponder...glad you're not in the gray-bar.

On the other side of the coin, Kai and I were road tripping north from Big Bend National Park when we reached a US Border Patrol checkpoint.  The agent asked me to pull over, then instructed me to get out of the car and to follow him for several steps .  He told me that the dog smelled drugs in our car and he asked me (away from my son) to confirm whether or not I had any.  I told him that we had some prescription medications and Ibuprofen, but nothing else (I wasn't even drinking coffee during this particular trip!).  I encouraged him and the dog to search our car, but the agent seemed to lack enthusiasm, once he saw all the junk that the two boys spread all about, as what happens on a 2-week road trip.  Adding pressure to the agent, I asked if they had a restroom that I could use.  The agent said no and sent us on our way.

I'd call that a "false positive" dog smelling test.

Yes, that's smells like bullshit Johnny D.

Most search dogs don't search a particular person or place unless/until their trainer tells them to.

Maybe you bought some bunk weed?

I like Stella, but it's BS that their bottles & cans are slightly less than 12oz.

I suppose that's a first-world problem, but it still sucks.

Plenty of other similar choices, sorry Stella.

I met a little brown Chihuahua named Ace yesterday at Terrapin Crossroads. He was a nice dog and wanted to be friends. The lady who owned him gave me a joint. Ace apparently has no history as a drug sniffing dog, or at least a drug busting dog.

Maybe they don't train them for pot anymore. Maybe they are powder sniffing dogs?

Jaz  you heard wrong. 

They were "drugged dogs," not drug dogs. 

(And maybe it's  time to switch to a vape for discrete smoking so you can take a big puff. )

Most search dogs don't search a particular person or place unless/until their trainer tells them to<<<

This is what I suspect.  My cousin once had a dog who went into yellow/red alert after he whispered the word "radar".  It was actually pretty amazing to see how the dog's ears perked up and started to more closely scan the environment.

 It's funny how dogs are generally obsessed with pleasing their owners and being a "good dog" while cats could care less.

>Maybe they don't train them for pot anymore

Some drug (cannabis)  sniffing dogs are being retrained to detect Covid 

what a fun thread

Its my understanding that most drug dogs have to go into retirement once cannabis is legalized in their jurisdiction.  The problem would be if the dog, for example, picks up on the smell of legal cannabis during a traffic stop, which in turn results in finding a dead body in the trunk.   If the reason for the search was arguably based on the dog detecting legal cannabis, then all the evidence gathered in the investigation, including the dead body, could be potentially be thrown out of court. 

And yes, dogs only actively search when prompted to do so.

I was at the airport at customs in Santiago, Chile, a few years ago and was shitting bricks when a guy came by with a dog.   But fortunately, they were only looking for produce which I didn't have.

Deprogrammed. 

Free at last from the drug sniffing sex cult. 

Ken...did you spend time in Santiago? Planning a trip down that way next January.

>>>>>if the dog, for example, picks up on the smell of legal cannabis during a traffic stop,

Not a lawyer, but wouldn't this case still stand up in court? Even where weed is legal you still can't smoke it in a car if you have the keys on you or in the ignition. Smelling pot during a traffic stop is akin to finding an open container of alcohol.

A recent  court ruling stated that cops aren't allow to search vehicles during routine traffic stop based on smelling the cannabis.
not sure if any distinction was made between police dogs being used to smell the substance versus just the cops claiming they smell it.
 

But since departments are decommissioning cannabis sniffing dogs,  in most States, and since there's not yet a reliable roadside  test for cannabis in one's system, maybe nothing to worry about?  
 

> Even where weed is legal you still can't smoke it in a car

But you can transport it in a car if it's legal.

Dogs sure don't wait for their owner's permission to sniff each other's asses.  Bunch of ass-crackheads.

That's just how dogs greet one another, and other species. 

True, I was thinking burning weed odor. Having a bag of stinky weed should def. not be evidence of anything nefarious.

So I can shed a little light on Dope Dog experience.

Maybe two years back,  Jerry Garcia Birthday,  Wall Township NJ cops pulled me over for some imaginary traffic infraction.

They pestered Us for about an Hour and made me perform Roadside Ballet moves,  speak the Alphabet backwards,  dance,  tell them when a Minute was expired,  translate Croatian Bible texts,  touch my nose with my Foot,  convert Metric to Olde English thread sizes,  and they made me take off my Hat.

At least two cop cars arrived on the scene because I took Hùsky to the Coast and let H.I.M. play at the Legal, Authorized Dog Beach.

One cop spoke up -- "The Dog Is Wet",  an actual fact. He was Wet.

That actually confirmed my tale of "We went swimming at the Coast and Dog is Wet".

So after all that hassle, they can't bust us for anything,  and ask to search my truck,  which request I decline.  They (actually the one aggro cop) gets huffy and says "Well you know your rights and we are bringing in Dope Dog".

Eventually Dope Dog arrives and sniffs all around,  but I had no Dope.

I did speak up and say "Hùsky would enjoy meeting that Sleek German Shepherd;  they should frolic together !!" But that was not allowed.

They (the cops) did some illegal stuff like leaving passenger door open, and allowing Dope Dog to hop up on passenger seat -- that's not allowed. Quite illegal.

Turns out there was nothing interesting in the Truck,  and what a waste of taxpayer dollars deploying all these cops to Shake me Down.

Looking back,  I felt bad for Dope Dog.  He eats standard cop-grade industrial Chow and is stuck with a batch of cops all day.

Husky eats Grain-Free kibble, Lamb and Venison.  He's got a decent Life.

Poor Dope Dog wishes he had a chance at Fun.

how far is the beach stu?

Mr. Turtle,

We go to Asbury Park North Shore.

That is Dog Beach,  Fishing Jetty and Surfer place.

About 45 minute drive if no heavy traffic, maybe 33 miles.

Asbury Park Nj is extremely Dog-Friendly town and a well-behaved Canine is welcome everywhere,  but technically not allowed on the Beach except that North Coast area.

AP cops are very professional and don't really bother the average tourist.  They're looking out for actual crime and such, not Dogs on leash.

i'm sure he enjoys his outings.

even if he is technically a benny :)

Mr. Turtle,

Think twice before telling "Benny" to HÜsky to his face.

To H.I.M. that means "Bunny"  and that means "Snacky"... He's a Good Boy, but has an affinity for murdering chickens and wabbits.

After years of Obedience School,  he still has that "High Prey Drive"  (Wabbit murder) built in.
There are still some resentments from when He slaughtered a Chicken or two at local Farmers place.

I offered to replace the Poultry... He can't help H.I.M.self;  it's a built-in trait.

He's got a very efficient Killing technique.  Mostly, He is well-behaved.
Can't be trusted around Poultry.

However,  He is total Babysitter with Hu-Persons,  absolutely fine with kids.  No worries there.
Very well-behaved around People.  Poultry, not safe. He murders Chickens.

Regarding the 11.2 oz. Stella Artois,  I think they are tasty if chilled to the right temperature.

Problems would be from "Light-Struck" defects if they are exposed to light for very long... Methyl-Mercaptan or such "Skunk" off flavor.

While it's not my favorite flavor,  a Cold Stella is OK once in a while.

But let's do the Math on this. If you have ten 11.2 Fluid oz. beers, that's equivalent to 112 Fluid oz.

Ten 12 Fluid Oz. Beers would be 120 Fluid Oz.

So it's about an Eight Fluid Oz. difference with Ten Beers, meaning you have to drink twenty of those to appreciate an actual Pint of loss or gain. These are the actual facts.

Let me note that I'm actual BJCP Certified Beer Judge.

We are trained to calculate stuff like this.

There is some Factual data involved in Every batch of Beer...
Well, most of them.

Q Anon Stu 

Bill Gates cares about all of us. If he didn't, he wouldn't have put so much damn time and energy into vaccines.  God bless that man. 

Just took HÚsky for evening Walkies,  and neighbor Southside handed me a Cold Beer... Stella Artois in Aluminum Can, 11.2 oz.

Can't see the Metric litres on there.

I will look at it under stronger light and see if it has Metric designation. Getting dusky out here East Coast time.

Mr. Jaz --

My belief is that your mathematical modality is derived in the Fifteen system,  which is the Devil's number.
Look at the Tarot Card in the typical Deck;  15 is Devil.

My simple Math anology is based upon the 10-base Decimal system, which is God's work,  not a product of Satan.

Let's say you drink 50 (x) 11.2 Oz. Stella.
That would equal about 560 Fluid Ounces,  or approximately 16.561177 Liters.

Fifty (x) 12 Oz. Beers would be 600 Fluid Ounces, about 17.744118 Liters.

At the end of all this Math,  it takes about 5o Beers to lose/gain a "40" style Beer.

Jaz,

I must disagree with your statement, with an explanation.

If you are a working Brewer,  it's somewhat important to be able to convert various measures to and from the other ones.
A "Barrel" of Beer is 31 USA Gallons. A "Keg" or 1/2 Barrel is 15.5 USA Gallons. 1/4 Barrel is 7.75 Gallons ("Pony Keg").

That's all 1970's -> 1990's technology.  You can still get Kegs of Bud or Coors in those dimensions, but the trend has evolved toward "Euro-Sankey" Metric containers calibrated in Liters.

So why the weird USA Gallon sizes in Beer Kegs ? It derives from British Barrels or BBL.  Anyone could look up the history,  but that's a lot of work.  As a USA Brewer, I worked with USA Gallons of Beer and Water, Pounds of Grain, USA Pounds of Hops for the numbers.

But if I ever went to Germany or Belgium to Brew,  it would be Hectoliters and Kilograms,  so it would be crucial to convert from one paradigm to another.

The metric system works out nicely for Scientists and Water-Based workers because one Gram of water = one cubic centimeter; 1000 grams of water = one liter.

You work in a Water plant,  so I'm sure you know what I'm saying.

Stu, I'm so glad my prediction wasn't correct.

Didn't mean to be harsh, but I do know dogs get hungry.....

My first memory of Stella Artois was when I was about to board the hovercraft from Dover to Calais in 1990.  People were returning to Great Britain with cases of the stuff and I couldn't figure out why it was so prized.  I found out later that some folks called it "wife-beater" beer, because it was stronger than the Stella Artois that was sold in England.

IMHO, there are much better beers/ales in Belgium and, for that matter, in England (at an impressive Imperial pint, no less).

That's about it.

My 6th grade class toured the Stella Artois brewery. The local kids were able to take a sip of the product being there is no drinking age in that country, but us "international" students were not allowed to partake

"I'm so glad my prediction wasn't correct.

Didn't mean to be harsh, but I do know dogs get hungry....."

No worries Local.  If Húsky eats my leg or other appendages,  Good for H.I.M. and I hope that he enjoys the meal.
Preferably that would take place after I drop Dead.

He actually eats pretty well.  I get H.I.M. fancy Grain-Free kibble and mix in chunks of Lamb, Venison,  Chicken,  Eggs,  all the Good stuff.
Even with His "spoiled canine" diet,  He will find some rasty Deer Carcass in the snow and drag it home,  which I think is disgusting. 'That' stuff stays outdoors.

But he likes to gnaw on that stuff like Hu-Persons enjoy their Burger King and such.

^^

That's Kool you got to live in Germany back when.  One of the things I liked during my visits in the 1990's was Beer carts on the Streets of Frankfurt and Hamburg,  liek a Hot-Dog Street cart,  but Metric Pint Bottles for sale; a couple Deutsch Marks.

And it was all Legal and permitted to Drink Beer on the Sidewalk and lurk around,  Drinking Beer and yelling.

My thoughts at the time made me think that Germany has some Better sort of Freedom to allow Public Drinking.

No Idea if they allow that now,  but I definitely bought a couple Beers and drank on the Street back when,  all Legal.

I just found this online (which sort of jives with what I perceived back in 1990:

“Stella’s for the fellas who take their lager strong”

This was the first slogan Stella used in advertising the beer in the UK. Domestic beer in England is and was low – with most beers running at 4% alcohol content. Although there were stronger beers on the market, they were not widely drunk or served in pubs as the beers were often of poor quality, too high in alcohol content (meaning people would drink less) and were often associated with alcoholics. However, when Stella, a triple filtered continental beer came onto the British market, the 5.2% alcohol content was higher than the average beer served. Nonetheless, it soon became available at pubs and stores across the UK.

The 80’s and 90s saw the company increase their presence in the UK with many high production adverts which were known for their distinct style of mimicking European cinema.

https://brussels-express.eu/why-was-stella-artois-known-as-wife-beater-i...

It is funny, because I fell in love with Newcastle Brown Ale at the time (which seemed pretty strong), as well as the Scottish ales (I was staying in Glasgow, afterall).  However, the "real" Brits were drinking Stella Artois and Foster's...

The best deal in town? 2 liter bottles of Hard Cider for about 3 bucks (USA).  Oh Nellie!