Beautiful red rocks evening. Light rain, 30 mile gusts pre show. Then magic. Dark Star Orchestra played a 2-set energy filled show. From china cat on we knew the night was going to be special. An indeed it was: John K. came to delight the audience when he joined DSO for cumberlin, 1st time in twelve years. Weather Report suite was highlight of 1st set, jamming smoothly throughout. Then, Morning Dew after set brake to dazzle the crowd, dancing all around. Dark star " you and me while we can" forever. What more can I say: St stephen, w.t.b, 11,That's it..., death, alligator. Encore time: viola lee blues to rock your brain for the entire night ahead. Many, many DSO heads met their maker this show. Thank you D S O.
That's right, Doolittle. How many ya need from your friends and mine at AXS? Click on that link and go to town.
Actually it's $180 for front row - $207 each after fees, or $148 plus fees for third row. Both still available! I must've clicked on row further back for the $132's when I looked.
After all...it IS Deer Valley, and........
"Dark Star Orchestra offers much more than the sound of the Grateful Dead, they truly encapsulate the energy and the experience. It's about a sense of familiarity. It's about a feeling that grabs listeners and takes over. It's about that contagious energy...in short, it's about the complete experience and consistent quality show that the fan receives when attending a Dark Star Orchestra show."
It was fun listening to everyone who played; each is a very good musician. They sounded like their fun-loving selves, the lovely Dino (Vorty) included. Lisa kicks ass.
Comparing them to anyone else is silly; they're playing as DSO, no one else. Thanks for the list, Andy.
I usually go to see them when they're in Eugene, people come out - it's another of the "gathering of the tribes" moments in Eugene.
Yes I did. Thought it was newsworthy for this site. Just clicked on YT to check out DSO performing live and JK was playing with them. I know he started the band in Chicago but know nothing about the history and if this is the first time he's played with them since the Furthur offer? I agree that they're all fine musicians but Jerry spoiled me and you can't recreate what he did no matter what. Everything else is a forgery imo.
I'm not a fan of the group, but you can't forge improvisation, which is why the post-GD bands that are good carry on and play the big places.
It may all be derived from the past, but improv is always in the moment, and that's why it always works when it's good.
It's also why, at any of these post-GD band shows you always see people in the '70s, and '60s, and '50s, and '40s, and '30s, and '20s, and 'teens.
Because even though the music is covered in the GD cloth, by design it's still always being played in the present moment, changing every night, and to one degree or another that's what made every one of us a fan whenever we got on board, and because of that in-the-moment nature, and as long as it's played by inspired improvisational musicians, Grateful Dead music and their concert experience continues 26 years after the originals stopped, and will continue for a long time to come.
Every other tribute or cover band anywhere, or even the old originals like Styx, Boston, Yes, whoever, the fans at those shows are always original fans of a certain age, all in their '50's & '60s.
But youth is always looking for something different, something adventurous, something new.
The Grateful Dead created something different, something always new, something that carries a sense of adventure, and because of that it carries on.
I get it Lance. Nostalgia will never wane for some. Elvis has his people. And I get it that young folks want to experience a piece of an era that they never experienced God Bless them. But the 60's are over If you dig it good for you. I don't claim to have perfect taste. I like what I like and vice versa! Just stating MY opinion. If people think my opinion is BS fine. But if you think paying over $100 to see DSO is fine..................LOL!
Where'd you hear that the '60s were over? Check your sources, the '60s have just evolved into more recent times. First the '90s were the '60s upside down, now we're in the double '60s (the 2020's). Okay, I made that up, but it's somehow true.
The Grateful Dead created something different, something always new, something that carries a sense of adventure, and because of that it carries on<<<<<
I'd replace The Grateful Dead with Albert Hoffman in that statement.
>>>I get it Lance. Nostalgia will never wane for some. Elvis has his people. And I get it that young folks want to experience a piece of an era that they never experienced<<<
Well, from those statements it's pretty clear that you didn't get what I was saying, and you don't get what's actually happening.
And I don't think anyone paid anywhere near $100 for DSO at Red Rocks.
Roller coasters just go round and round; the Grateful Dead gave us a road that goes on forever, and a party that never ends.
We get on when we do, and we either choose to get off or find ourselves off at whatever point, and if we're really lucky we can find ourselves back on, but that road continues to go on with or without any one of us.
And that's why it's all still so popular, and will continue to be long after we're all gone.
Lance, that is exactly how I feel and you said it very well. Much akin to psychedelics, it has oftentimes felt to me as if that realm is always 'on' but we just weave in and out of it by nibbling on the fruits that help us enter that space and experience it. Even if one never actually trips again. It has been quite a long while since I fully dove in but I still/forever feel that way. The long road of The Grateful Dead will never actually come to an endpoint.
I watched the first set of DSO @ Red Rocks last night and really liked it too. I am glad they are doing what they have been doing for so long as well, honoring and celebrating the finest and craziest music ever devised and created....'in my opinion' ;)
Jeez, this is what happens when I try not to overwrite for a change.
For starters, my roller coaster post was a response to Dave's suggestion that Dr. Hoffman's problem child, and not the GD, was the "something different, something always new, something that carries a sense of adventure, and because of that it carries on." In response to that, I suggested that while Hoffman got us started with a metaphorical bike ride, the GD then gave us a roller coaster. The roller coaster I had in mind was one that lays track ahead of itself, so that it doesn't just go round and round, and there were corkscrew spirals, rocket boosters, and wormholes involved too.
I agree with the adventure roller coaster analogy. GD could go from fully rockin' out to country to psychedelia, turning on dimes, hanging on limbs, and, yes, laying that track as they went.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: treat island judit
on Monday, July 5, 2021 – 10:06 pm
Lisa is doing a great job now
Lisa is doing a great job now on You ain't Woman Enough! And Jeff Mattson is back. Rob Barraco is having fun, too.
Another free stream: https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?v=217280150137401&ref=watch_permalink
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Strangha Slickrock
on Tuesday, July 6, 2021 – 12:00 am
Thanks, Judit.
Thanks, Judit.
Looks like they're doing 2 Labor Day weekend shows in Deer Valley, Utah by Park City.
https://thestateroompresents.com/deer-valley/deer-valley-calendar/dark-s...
$132 front reserved center, $75 front reserved sides, $35 lawn. 6 PM start.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: It's me Dave open up! Davesnothere
on Tuesday, July 6, 2021 – 01:12 am
Thanks, this was a nice
Thanks, this was a nice surprise.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lance minimum goad Newberry heathentom
on Tuesday, July 6, 2021 – 04:29 am
Yadda yadda yadda, and there
Yadda yadda yadda, and there's ALOT of yadda yadda in the greater world of the Grateful Dead, but ultimately, John's a really good player.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Tuesday, July 6, 2021 – 12:17 pm
$132 tickets and the return
$132 tickets and the return of John K.
It's like DSO's version of the Brahphecy.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Andy Tahoe
on Tuesday, July 6, 2021 – 01:30 pm
D S O
D S O
Red Rocks 7-5-2021 (Morrison, Co)
Rob, Rob, Rob, Lisa, Dino, Jeff, Skip
Set One
China Cat Sunflower <
I Know You Rider
Black Throated Wind
Here Comes Sunshine
Cumberlin Blues (JK)
Box of Rain
Ain't Woman Enough
Weather Report Suite
G D T R F B
Set Two
Morning Dew
Easy Wind<
Dark Star<
Saint Stephen <
William Tell Bridge<
The Eleven
That's It For ...<
Drums<
...The Other One<
Death Don't Have No Mercy
Lazy Alligator
Encore
Viola Lee Blues
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: doctor doolittle
on Tuesday, July 6, 2021 – 01:34 pm
They were really selling
They were really selling tickets for $132 face??
What a pathetic joke!
And people posting setlist"s of a cover band!
LOL!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Andy Tahoe
on Tuesday, July 6, 2021 – 01:45 pm
Beautiful red rocks evening.
Beautiful red rocks evening. Light rain, 30 mile gusts pre show. Then magic. Dark Star Orchestra played a 2-set energy filled show. From china cat on we knew the night was going to be special. An indeed it was: John K. came to delight the audience when he joined DSO for cumberlin, 1st time in twelve years. Weather Report suite was highlight of 1st set, jamming smoothly throughout. Then, Morning Dew after set brake to dazzle the crowd, dancing all around. Dark star " you and me while we can" forever. What more can I say: St stephen, w.t.b, 11,That's it..., death, alligator. Encore time: viola lee blues to rock your brain for the entire night ahead. Many, many DSO heads met their maker this show. Thank you D S O.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Andy Tahoe
on Tuesday, July 6, 2021 – 01:45 pm
Red Rocks $45.00
Red Rocks $45.00
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Andy Tahoe
on Tuesday, July 6, 2021 – 01:47 pm
Hey Doolittle: And what;s so
Hey Doolittle: And what's so bad with posting set list for all? Enjoy the video if you did not attend.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Strangha Slickrock
on Tuesday, July 6, 2021 – 01:55 pm
That's right, Dolittle. How
That's right, Doolittle. How many ya need from your friends and mine at AXS? Click on that link and go to town.
Actually it's $180 for front row - $207 each after fees, or $148 plus fees for third row. Both still available! I must've clicked on row further back for the $132's when I looked.
After all...it IS Deer Valley, and........
"Dark Star Orchestra offers much more than the sound of the Grateful Dead, they truly encapsulate the energy and the experience. It's about a sense of familiarity. It's about a feeling that grabs listeners and takes over. It's about that contagious energy...in short, it's about the complete experience and consistent quality show that the fan receives when attending a Dark Star Orchestra show."
Thanks for the setlist, Andy.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: treat island judit
on Tuesday, July 6, 2021 – 01:58 pm
It was fun listening to
It was fun listening to everyone who played; each is a very good musician. They sounded like their fun-loving selves, the lovely Dino (Vorty) included. Lisa kicks ass.
Comparing them to anyone else is silly; they're playing as DSO, no one else. Thanks for the list, Andy.
I usually go to see them when they're in Eugene, people come out - it's another of the "gathering of the tribes" moments in Eugene.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Strangha Slickrock
on Tuesday, July 6, 2021 – 02:01 pm
>>> it's another of the
>>> it's another of the "gathering of the tribes" moments
You're right, Judit. That part is always enjoyable. I may hit the lawn if I'm in town.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Tuesday, July 6, 2021 – 05:12 pm
didn't doolittle start this
didn't doolittle start this thread? LOL
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Mice elf Bss
on Tuesday, July 6, 2021 – 05:35 pm
Hahahahahahahaha
Hahahahahahahaha
ned from downtown
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff JR
on Tuesday, July 6, 2021 – 06:19 pm
Crawl back, definition:
To return to one in a dejected or humbled fashion.
"Don't come crawling back to me when she throws you out!"
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: doctor doolittle
on Tuesday, July 6, 2021 – 06:24 pm
Yes I did. Thought it was
Yes I did. Thought it was newsworthy for this site. Just clicked on YT to check out DSO performing live and JK was playing with them. I know he started the band in Chicago but know nothing about the history and if this is the first time he's played with them since the Furthur offer? I agree that they're all fine musicians but Jerry spoiled me and you can't recreate what he did no matter what. Everything else is a forgery imo.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lance minimum goad Newberry heathentom
on Tuesday, July 6, 2021 – 07:02 pm
>>>Everything else is a
>>>Everything else is a forgery<<<
I'm not a fan of the group, but you can't forge improvisation, which is why the post-GD bands that are good carry on and play the big places.
It may all be derived from the past, but improv is always in the moment, and that's why it always works when it's good.
It's also why, at any of these post-GD band shows you always see people in the '70s, and '60s, and '50s, and '40s, and '30s, and '20s, and 'teens.
Because even though the music is covered in the GD cloth, by design it's still always being played in the present moment, changing every night, and to one degree or another that's what made every one of us a fan whenever we got on board, and because of that in-the-moment nature, and as long as it's played by inspired improvisational musicians, Grateful Dead music and their concert experience continues 26 years after the originals stopped, and will continue for a long time to come.
Every other tribute or cover band anywhere, or even the old originals like Styx, Boston, Yes, whoever, the fans at those shows are always original fans of a certain age, all in their '50's & '60s.
But youth is always looking for something different, something adventurous, something new.
The Grateful Dead created something different, something always new, something that carries a sense of adventure, and because of that it carries on.
Long Live The Grateful Dead!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Alan R StoneSculptor
on Tuesday, July 6, 2021 – 07:23 pm
^ did you get a retirement
^ did you get a retirement job for Relix or something?
(You write better than Joel Selvin, for sure.)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: doctor doolittle
on Tuesday, July 6, 2021 – 08:31 pm
I get it Lance. Nostalgia
I get it Lance. Nostalgia will never wane for some. Elvis has his people. And I get it that young folks want to experience a piece of an era that they never experienced God Bless them. But the 60's are over If you dig it good for you. I don't claim to have perfect taste. I like what I like and vice versa! Just stating MY opinion. If people think my opinion is BS fine. But if you think paying over $100 to see DSO is fine..................LOL!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call" Knotesau
on Tuesday, July 6, 2021 – 08:46 pm
Nostalgia is good enough for
Nostalgia is good enough for you because you never listen to anything new.
Get a job, Spicoli.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: treat island judit
on Tuesday, July 6, 2021 – 10:36 pm
Where'd you hear that the
Where'd you hear that the '60s were over? Check your sources, the '60s have just evolved into more recent times. First the '90s were the '60s upside down, now we're in the double '60s (the 2020's). Okay, I made that up, but it's somehow true.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Thumbkinetic (Bluestnote)
on Tuesday, July 6, 2021 – 11:30 pm
Elvis has his people.<<
Elvis has his people.<<
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLSZXHXFsss
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Tuesday, July 6, 2021 – 11:35 pm
I haven't thought of the word
I haven't thought of the word "dimwit" in quite some time, but it seems to fit here.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Wednesday, July 7, 2021 – 12:42 am
JK is good with JGB
JK is good with JGB
gonna go to felton soonish for a replay
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Wednesday, July 7, 2021 – 01:48 am
The Grateful Dead created
The Grateful Dead created something different, something always new, something that carries a sense of adventure, and because of that it carries on<<<<<
I'd replace The Grateful Dead with Albert Hoffman in that statement.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Wednesday, July 7, 2021 – 03:07 am
Replace, or supplement?
Replace, or supplement? Hoffman gave us a bike ride. The GD gave us a roller coaster.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lance minimum goad Newberry heathentom
on Wednesday, July 7, 2021 – 04:39 am
>>>I get it Lance. Nostalgia
>>>I get it Lance. Nostalgia will never wane for some. Elvis has his people. And I get it that young folks want to experience a piece of an era that they never experienced<<<
Well, from those statements it's pretty clear that you didn't get what I was saying, and you don't get what's actually happening.
And I don't think anyone paid anywhere near $100 for DSO at Red Rocks.
Swingin' like Kingman.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lance minimum goad Newberry heathentom
on Wednesday, July 7, 2021 – 04:46 am
>>>The GD gave us a roller
>>>The GD gave us a roller coaster<<<
I don't think that's accurate either.
Roller coasters just go round and round; the Grateful Dead gave us a road that goes on forever, and a party that never ends.
We get on when we do, and we either choose to get off or find ourselves off at whatever point, and if we're really lucky we can find ourselves back on, but that road continues to go on with or without any one of us.
And that's why it's all still so popular, and will continue to be long after we're all gone.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Zzzzzz Zang
on Wednesday, July 7, 2021 – 08:49 am
Wait, so there were two Fake
Wait, so there were two Fake Jerry's playing at once?
My head cannot comprehend....it's too much.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: GDTRFB StrawBud
on Wednesday, July 7, 2021 – 09:36 am
Lance, that is exactly how I
Lance, that is exactly how I feel and you said it very well. Much akin to psychedelics, it has oftentimes felt to me as if that realm is always 'on' but we just weave in and out of it by nibbling on the fruits that help us enter that space and experience it. Even if one never actually trips again. It has been quite a long while since I fully dove in but I still/forever feel that way. The long road of The Grateful Dead will never actually come to an endpoint.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: GDTRFB StrawBud
on Wednesday, July 7, 2021 – 09:38 am
...I watched the first set of
I watched the first set of DSO @ Red Rocks last night and really liked it too. I am glad they are doing what they have been doing for so long as well, honoring and celebrating the finest and craziest music ever devised and created....'in my opinion' ;)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: joy blackrock
on Wednesday, July 7, 2021 – 10:07 am
>>>>I know he started the
>>>>I know he started the band in Chicago
I think Vorty started the band and JK came later. Vorty is the longest tenured player in the band if my memory serves
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Mice elf Bss
on Wednesday, July 7, 2021 – 10:20 am
>>Roller coasters just go
>>Roller coasters just go round and round; the Grateful Dead gave us a road that goes on forever, and a party that never ends.<<
actually Robert Earl keen gave us that
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Richard Cranium Fitzman
on Wednesday, July 7, 2021 – 11:11 am
Lisa is the longest tenured
Lisa is the longest tenured member of the band these days. Vorty wasn't even an original.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nevermind mikeedwardsetc
on Wednesday, July 7, 2021 – 11:47 am
> Roller coasters just go
> Roller coasters just go round and round
Jeez, this is what happens when I try not to overwrite for a change.
For starters, my roller coaster post was a response to Dave's suggestion that Dr. Hoffman's problem child, and not the GD, was the "something different, something always new, something that carries a sense of adventure, and because of that it carries on." In response to that, I suggested that while Hoffman got us started with a metaphorical bike ride, the GD then gave us a roller coaster. The roller coaster I had in mind was one that lays track ahead of itself, so that it doesn't just go round and round, and there were corkscrew spirals, rocket boosters, and wormholes involved too.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Rasputin O'Leary Rasmataz
on Wednesday, July 7, 2021 – 01:31 pm
When the real McCoy weren't
When the real McCoy weren't touring or no longer a unit, good cover bands are not only big fun,, they're down right essential.
Max Creek was my 1st love of Dead cover bands,, that's pretty much all they played back in the day.
Then I fell in love with the Zen Tricksters - then DSO. All great, all necessary to fill the void.
The day my mother died in 04, I drove 3 hrs to the vibes in Mariaville that night just to see DSO. They helped me more than words can say.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Rasputin O'Leary Rasmataz
on Wednesday, July 7, 2021 – 01:53 pm
<< Elvis has his people
<< Elvis has his people
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: long live the dead love matters
on Thursday, July 8, 2021 – 02:47 am
10,000 tons of steel out of
10,000 tons of steel out of control
no toller coaster
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: GDTRFB StrawBud
on Thursday, July 8, 2021 – 03:10 pm
I agree with the adventure
I agree with the adventure roller coaster analogy. GD could go from fully rockin' out to country to psychedelia, turning on dimes, hanging on limbs, and, yes, laying that track as they went.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: skyjunk fabes
on Thursday, July 8, 2021 – 03:25 pm
https://youtu.be/w1h_hmdVJAc
https://youtu.be/w1h_hmdVJAc
im riding with grandma next show