Emmett Till Accuser Admits Lying

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The white woman who accused 14 year old Emmett Till of flirting and getting physical with her which led to her husband and BIL kidnapping, torturing and murdering him now says she lied, and she "feels sorrow for his mother".

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http://time.com/4652126/emmett-till-carolyn-bryant-donham/

"Not guilty".

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J.W. Milan who admitted to murdering and torturing Till after he was found not guilty in court with his wife *who later said Carolyn made it up because she didn't like her husband traveling and wanted to manipulate him into staying home with her.

 

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***Warning,****

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I'm going to post an open casket photo of Emmett Till. It's graphic.

 

 

Last chance to heed above warning

America's shame.

Humans suck.

Emmett Till was dragged out of bed at his uncle's house in the dark of night, forced into Milan's truck, taken to a shed and was tortured, pistol whipped, and beaten, then taken to the river where Milan and Bryant tied a cotton gin fan to Emmett's neck with barbed wire, shot the boy in the head, and his body then thrown in the river.

His mother insisted on an open casket funeral so the world could see what racism did to her son, sparking the civil rights movement

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The local Sheriff went on record saying not only was the body not Emmett Till, but that the entire thing was a "Chicago ni---- NAACP conspiracy" and that "the real Emmett Till was relaxing somewhere in Chicago". Till's body was exhumed decades later and DNA tests prove beyond any doubt that it was definitely 14 year old Emmett Till's remains. 

 

off-topic-I looked at a lot of trial photos and can't help wondering wtf is up with southern men pawing at women in public. Photo after photo MIlan and Bryant are draped all over their wives, like they might run away at any second if the dude's arms aren't on them, other women pictured, too.

The PBS doc shows film footage of Roy Bryant shoving his tongue down Carolyn's throat at the not guilty verdict, like the trial was all some tweaked southern foreplay..what the hell?! Get a room, racist, gross, and tacky PDA people

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You need to switch channels, Dise. Maybe watch some SpongeBob to brighten up your day.

nedb, there's no reason for you to say something so patronizing to me. If you want me to slap you, just ask. Don't be such a desperate pussy. 

 

...but seriously, there's some incredible photographs from the trial, and I read a few intense period newspaper articles that make me miss real journalists.

Check the Nov. Esquire for an article on the likely frame of Emmett Till's father for rape/murder in Italy during WWII. 

Yeah, he was hanged  

Sorry if that is too real. 

I would, Aiq, but I don't have copies of Esquire laying around, got a link?

Not trying to be patronizing, Dise.
Just saying balance is good, that's all. Have a great day!!

The Death of Emmett Till (B.Dylan)

 ’Twas down in Mississippi not so long ago
When a young boy from Chicago town stepped through a Southern door
This boy’s dreadful tragedy I can still remember well
The color of his skin was black and his name was Emmett Till

Some men they dragged him to a barn and there they beat him up
They said they had a reason, but I can’t remember what
They tortured him and did some things too evil to repeat
There were screaming sounds inside the barn, there was laughing sounds
out on the street

Then they rolled his body down a gulf amidst a bloody red rain
And they threw him in the waters wide to cease his screaming pain
The reason that they killed him there, and I’m sure it ain’t no lie
Was just for the fun of killin’ him and to watch him slowly die

And then to stop the United States of yelling for a trial
Two brothers they confessed that they had killed poor Emmett Till
But on the jury there were men who helped the brothers commit this
awful crime
And so this trial was a mockery, but nobody seemed to mind

I saw the morning papers but I could not bear to see
The smiling brothers walkin’ down the courthouse stairs
For the jury found them innocent and the brothers they went free
While Emmett’s body floats the foam of a Jim Crow southern sea

If you can’t speak out against this kind of thing, a crime that’s so unjust
Your eyes are filled with dead men’s dirt, your mind is filled with dust
Your arms and legs they must be in shackles and chains, and your blood
it must refuse to flow
For you let this human race fall down so God-awful low!

This song is just a reminder to remind your fellow man
That this kind of thing still lives today in that ghost-robed Ku Klux Klan
But if all of us folks that thinks alike, if we gave all we could give
We could make this great land of ours a greater place to live

Thanks, aiq.

 

I find it impressive that you double down on the patronizing BS, ned..oh wait, no I don't. Fuck off to the eddieboy thread or someplace where your lame mental migetry is more appropriate. We're talking about grown up stuff here.

I didn't mean to offend, Dise.

Carry on....

See you on the rainbow thread, dude

Aiq, interesting article that I'd classify as op-ed as opposed to reporting/journalism, but thank you for the link. A good (VERY long) read that was interesting for sure. The author used a bit more artistic license than I appreciate. It was difficult to discern which points were facts and what were contrived scenarios in the author's wandering mind, without the author's personal input, the article would be about 1/4 as long, but still quite intriguing. So no, it wasn't "too real" but indeed engaging.

at a minimum it's purgery, but can't she legally be tried for accessory to murder?

Good question, dickyb. There's little doubt that Bryant and Milan were racist scum, but it's pretty clear Till was murdered because she lit the fuse in their heads with her tale of a fresh black kid terrorizing her in her husband's absence. The photos of her smiling triumphantly at the not guilty verdict make me want to vomit.

Agreed.  More of a look at the actions of Army lawyers in general with regard to black soldiers in WWII than a conclusion on Till's guilt or innocence. There was a murder.

 

A very common dynamic during the lynching days was that a consensual sexual relationship between a white woman and black man would often result in a lynching based on a rape claim once the relationship was found out. The woman was often blocked from testifying or kept from speaking. 

Has anyone read the book that came out last week?

 

 

Another common thread that is still pretty much current is that black men are presumed guilty of *something* when victimized by whites, somehow rendering their murder acceptable. Trayvon Martin, Tamir Rice being modern examples of how far we haven't come.

Greg Popovich of the San Antonio Spurs went off yesterday on what he think about black history month:

Well, it's a remembrance, and a bit of a celebration in some ways. It sounds odd because we're not there yet, but it's always important to remember what has passed and what is being experienced now by the black population. It's a celebration of some of the good things that have happened, and a reminder that there's a lot more work to do. But more than anything, I think if people take the time to think about it, I think it is our national sin. It always intrigues me when people come out with, 'I'm tired of talking about that or do we have to talk about race again?' And the answer is you're damned right we do. Because it's always there, and it's systemic in the sense that when you talk about opportunity it's not about 'Well, if you lace up your shoes and you work hard, then you can have the American dream.' That's a bunch of hogwash. If you were born white, you automatically have a monstrous advantage educationally, economically, culturally in this society and all the systemic roadblocks that exist, whether it's in a judicial sense, a neighborhood sense with laws, zoning, education, we have huge problems in that regard that are very complicated, but take leadership, time, and real concern to try to solve. It's a tough one because people don't really want to face it. And it's in our national discourse. We have a president of the United States who spent four or five years disparaging and trying to illegitimatize our president. And we know that was a big fake. But still, [he] felt for some reason it had to be done. I can still remember a paraphrase close to a quote "investigators were sent to Hawaii and you cannot believe what they found." Well, that was a lie. So if it's being discussed and perpetrated at that level, you've got a national problem. I think that's enough."

JR, if you watch the PBS doc, it's pretty frightening how similar the crazy shit righties said about Obama is nearly identical to the sheriff's nutso NAACP conspiracy theory the Mississippi court case propagated about "the Chicago NAAP (n-word) taking over our government" denying the dead body was even Till - quite obvious he knew damn well it was Till, but he went on anyhow-Bryant and Milan admitted in gleeful, graphic detail the murder 4 months after the trial knowing they couldn't be charged twice. They were paid $3,000 for their story. It's still 1955 in a lot of white people's heads.

At least OJ got off

 

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My wife is reading Just Mercy and was telling about some of the injustices chronicled. Sometimes things are just mind numbing, but I suppose you have to do what you can and leave the rest, else you go crazy.

http://bryanstevenson.com/the-book/

So, what are you saying Dead2? We're even now?

Pretty sad that the author and Bryant sat on her admission until the Tyson book came out. I won't buy it because I feel like that information could've given some relatives of Emmett Till a little bit of peace before they died. Saving it nearly a decade for the book release smacks of cold, shameless self-interest on both the author and Bryant's part.

Derp Derp did you need to post that photo to make your racist comment? Dise gave us three warning posts and had a serious argument she supported with a graphic image. You just seem to want to be contrary all the time. why dont you go back to starting threads in politics that everyone ignores? I bet you had that photo on your hard drive. 

Neal buddy, you are a good egg.

>>at a minimum it's purgery, but can't she legally be tried for accessory to murder?<<

 

ps-There's reason to believe Carolyn Bryant was present during the kidnapping, torture and murder and might have even participated (as well as a couple others Roy Bryant and Milan refused to name). At least one witness (Mose) said he heard a woman's voice identifying Emmett Till to his killers when they dragged him out of his uncle's home. (Milan) "Is this the one?"...(woman's voice from truck cab) "Yes." 

 

Clueless alt whites...

I sometimes find it hard not to be an apologist as a white male in our culture. 

http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/PROJECTS/FTRIALS/till/confession.html

 

Look was the publication that paid Milam and Bryant for their side of the story, 4 months after being found not guilty. The full article and interview can be found at the link above.

Milam: "Well, what else could we do? He was hopeless. I'm no bully; I never hurt a nigger in my life. I like niggers -- in their place -- I know how to work 'em. But I just decided it was time a few people got put on notice. As long as I live and can do anything about it, niggers are gonna stay in their place. Niggers ain't gonna vote where I live. If they did, they'd control the government. They ain't gonna go to school with my kids. And when a nigger gets close to mentioning sex with a white woman, he's tired o' livin'. I'm likely to kill him. Me and my folks fought for this country, and we got some rights. I stood there in that shed and listened to that nigger throw that poison at me, and I just made up my mind. 'Chicago boy,' I said, 'I'm tired of 'em sending your kind down here to stir up trouble. Goddam you, I'm going to make an example of you -- just so everybody can know how me and my folks stand.'"

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/till/peopleevents/p_strider.html

Sheriff Strider said nearly the same in a press conference aired at the time of the trial "We never have any trouble until some of our Southern niggers go up North and the NAACP talks to 'em and they come back home. If they would keep their nose and mouths out of our business we would be able to do more when enforcing the laws of Tallahatchie County and Mississippi."