lots of people, especially deadheads, often mix up "rap" and "rap".
there is rap as in "pigpen rap" or "let me sit down and rap with you" and there is rap as in "hip hop music". some early forms of rapping, like gil scott heron, do have very real and measureable influence on hip hop, but a lot of what is considered early forms of "rapping" dont really have direct influence on hip hop in the way that stuff like early blues or rock and roll had on the grateful dead.
the origins of hip hop music are entirely instrumental. this sketch from comedy central is surprisingly accurate and informative, and the portion about kool herc declining to create the first hip hop album because he thought of hip hop as a live art form that involved the audience and couldn't be recreated on a recording should resonate pretty heavily with fans of the dead.
Well, it is his song, and think how bad it would be if he actually sang it.
Considering that way more than half of the legions of D&C fans are under 50, never saw the GD and probably don't know that Mickey wrote the song, his "rapping" it probably blew a lot of minds... "What a reinterpretation!!! AMAZING!!!"
And I'm OK with that. A mind blown is a mind blown, no matter the details.
"Area Code 415" by The Marin County Collective Recorded in 1972 and 1973 at Mickey Hart's ranch in Novato, but never released. It often circulates with tracks from Mickey Hart's unreleased solo album Fire On The Mountain.
Good versions played fronting the Mystery Box on that first Furthur tour in '96. Irvine '96 Down the Rd>>Fire
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: I rang a silent bell China-Rider
on Monday, July 3, 2023 – 07:41 am
Oh no, the rap is back!
Oh no, the rap is back!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sun so hot, clouds so low Trailhead
on Monday, July 3, 2023 – 07:58 am
That's what happens when
That's what happens when Billy is AWOL ...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sigmund SeaMonster
on Monday, July 3, 2023 – 09:11 am
It was well received and long
It was well received and long overdue
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Tim Wheres My Flashbacks
on Monday, July 3, 2023 – 09:30 am
I love the Mickey rap and
I love the Mickey rap and Only the strange remain too
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: billionyearoldcarbon thegunkman
on Monday, July 3, 2023 – 12:07 pm
I've been traumatized ever
I've been traumatized ever since hearing the rap back in 2003-2004 at Red Rocks. You know he is going to do it in San Francisco.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee Herbal Dave
on Monday, July 3, 2023 – 12:21 pm
When old people rap, it comes
When old people try to rap, it comes across more as hectoring.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Dr. Benway daylight
on Monday, July 3, 2023 – 12:35 pm
the inventor of hip hop back
the inventor of hip hop back at it again, incredible
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on Monday, July 3, 2023 – 01:09 pm
>>>the inventor of hip hop
>>>the inventor of hip hop back at it again, incredible
I wondered that myself for a bit....but
>>>The song Noah by the church choir group The Jubilers. is known as the first rap song in history, recorded in 1940.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Jay Sunshine jaysunshine
on Monday, July 3, 2023 – 03:09 pm
Comedy ensues below, at least
Comedy ensues below, at least for me, this isn't good - no insta account/login needed:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cs8LC_UMDqc/?igshid=MTc4MmM1YmI2Ng%3D%3D
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: No mas naranja. mikeedwardsetc
on Monday, July 3, 2023 – 03:16 pm
> long overdue
> long overdue
Was it really?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Dr. Benway daylight
on Monday, July 3, 2023 – 03:37 pm
lots of people, especially
lots of people, especially deadheads, often mix up "rap" and "rap".
there is rap as in "pigpen rap" or "let me sit down and rap with you" and there is rap as in "hip hop music". some early forms of rapping, like gil scott heron, do have very real and measureable influence on hip hop, but a lot of what is considered early forms of "rapping" dont really have direct influence on hip hop in the way that stuff like early blues or rock and roll had on the grateful dead.
the origins of hip hop music are entirely instrumental. this sketch from comedy central is surprisingly accurate and informative, and the portion about kool herc declining to create the first hip hop album because he thought of hip hop as a live art form that involved the audience and couldn't be recreated on a recording should resonate pretty heavily with fans of the dead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnMqFrxxQNg
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lance minimum goad Newberry heathentom
on Monday, July 3, 2023 – 05:41 pm
Well, it is his song, and
Well, it is his song, and think how bad it would be if he actually sang it.
Considering that way more than half of the legions of D&C fans are under 50, never saw the GD and probably don't know that Mickey wrote the song, his "rapping" it probably blew a lot of minds... "What a reinterpretation!!! AMAZING!!!"
And I'm OK with that. A mind blown is a mind blown, no matter the details.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: doctor doolittle
on Monday, July 3, 2023 – 05:50 pm
I was going to write
I was going to write basically the ;same Lance that Mickey wrote the song but refrained.
Losing interest here
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D. Portland_ken
on Monday, July 3, 2023 – 06:05 pm
Saw Mickey's rapping FOTM
Saw Mickey's rapping FOTM with "the Dead" in 03. Seen him do it couple other times with his own bands.
I like it.
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on Monday, July 3, 2023 – 06:25 pm
Had this studio cut on
Had this studio cut on cassette sometime late 70's/early 80's. Garcia's up front w/some great leads
Fire On The Mountain - Fire Rap Version - Mickey Hart - Unreleased Jerry Garcia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0jt-2huWAg
"Area Code 415" by The Marin County Collective Recorded in 1972 and 1973 at Mickey Hart's ranch in Novato, but never released. It often circulates with tracks from Mickey Hart's unreleased solo album Fire On The Mountain.
Good versions played fronting the Mystery Box on that first Furthur tour in '96. Irvine '96 Down the Rd>>Fire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01h-9W0wQXw
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: r n terrapin1977
on Monday, July 3, 2023 – 08:35 pm
I thought that unreleased
I thought that unreleased version was on Rolling Thunder but it's not .
I heard it somewhere though back in the day.
Don't believe I had the Diga album but I might have as I've heard that version before also.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: No mas naranja. mikeedwardsetc
on Monday, July 3, 2023 – 08:56 pm
I heard it as filler on a
I heard it as filler on a cassette back in the early 80s, and thought it was interesting enough as a one-off.
The version of FOTM on Diga was titled "Happiness is Drumming", but if I recall correctly, it was an instrumental. No vocals.
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on Monday, July 3, 2023 – 09:35 pm
https://youtu.be/V0jt-2huWAg
https://youtu.be/V0jt-2huWAg
https://youtu.be/r9QFI5yJjlI
yes
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: El Nino kxela
on Wednesday, July 5, 2023 – 11:16 am
>> and think how bad it would
>> and think how bad it would be if he actually sang it.
He did at one of the post Jerry Dead configurations at the Kaiser. One of the worst mushroom experiences I ever had.