NFL 2023 /24

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Now that the Snyder's have sold TTFKATR, maybe the curse will lift.  Hopefully the new owners ditch The Commanders name and can find something a little more clever.  Also looking forward to some movement on leveling the decaying rust heap that is RFK Stadium, and building them a new home back in the District.  Time for the Burgundy and Gold to rise again.

So I just saw today that the Ravens are 25 and 0 in preseason. Will the streak hold?

Jordan Love looked decent against the Bengals 2nd stringers - There is hope in Green Bay GO PACK GO!!!!

Stop the hype, please, stop the hype.  There are a lot of strong AFC teams. 

Happy football season! For the next few weeks all of us, even Washington fans, can have good thoughts about our teams. Some are handicapped by owners and coaches who are known idiots, but until the games are played you can't be sure what will happen. That's why it's fun!

Go Niners!

OK, it's early but I'll chime in for a moment, just because.

>>>In addition to demonstrations of athletic prowess, we get to watch gruesome injuries and loads of commercials while overindulging on food and drink<<<

Don't forget the incredible dedication, sacrifice, amazing demonstrations of team play, improvisation, creativity and the pure beauty of the human spirit while under duress on display.

NFL football is massively fucked up in multiple, very easily defined ways, but it's still the greatest live example of the human condition/in-the-moment human artistic expression that exists in the world.

The men who go between the lines and play that game are absolutely amazing, and despite all the many negatives, NFL football when it's being played is absolutely fucking amazing to watch, and I'm looking forward to watching it again this year.

My team is set up real good and should do well. As always there are questions - is the quarterback the real deal or is he another false prophet? Can the Oline hold up? Will the new defensive coordinator break was isn't broken and mess up a very good thing? Will injuries once again devastate everything?

Right now I'm not overly concerned about any but the last, which is always the wildcard in football. Ultimately, in time all questions will be answered. It's time to play ball.

FUCK 'EM ALL!!!

GO NINERS!!!!!!!!

AFC Central is going to be on fire this year, hands down the strongest division in football this season, followed by the NFC East. The Super Bowl winner resides in the Central 

go browns!

we still have that pencil neck geek super analytic disphit coach.

Aw man, I hadn't heard about Dobbins. That dude is just snake bit, and an Achilles? His career is toast. He's a good player, that's too bad.

My Niners did well, although Pickett played terrible for the Steelers. The 49ers defense harassed him pretty good but he still looked like shit, which made it easier.

The 49ers stars played like stars, and Purdy was really good again. That little dude is the real deal.

Some interesting games today, with a few surprises.

There are allot of good teams out there and maybe a couple sneaky contenders, it should be a good season.

Aaron who?

Well Pats didn't embarrass themselves so that was good. With the schedule and the team they have this year I would be surprised to see them get in the playoffs. This is the do or die year for Mac Jones. Hopefully Bill O'Brien can help him put it together. 

Loved seeing Jimmy G pull it out for the Raiders. I still think people have sold Josh McDaniels short. 

Anyway this season is about one thing and one thing only. Fuck the Jets. 

i'm not surprised.

I lived and died with the Cleveland Browns until 1995 when Art Model moved them to Baltimore.  It is ironic because now I live in Baltimore. I took Model's move very personal and have watched exactly 1 game in the last 27 years.  I kind of thought I might go back someday, but then all those CTE studies came out and I just can't watch humans knowing give themselves brain damage. But I do understand the passion and enjoyment of watching football, just not for me anymore.  All I can say is go Orioles. 

>>>Don't forget the incredible dedication, sacrifice, amazing demonstrations of team play, improvisation, creativity and the pure beauty of the human spirit while under duress on display.

This doc on Netflix gives you a glimpse of that. The part where he Cousins is trying to learn the plays is just mind blowing. Remembering that shit is hard enough. Remembering while fighting a 15 round prize fight is just a whole different level. 

https://www.netflix.com/tudum/articles/quarterback-nfl-docuseries-news

>>>Fuck the Jets<<<

Yeah, because of the immensely unlikeable Aaron Rogers I guess I'm going with that, which is too bad because I really like Robert Saleh.

During his time with the 49ers Saleh continually came across as a very decent, likable, standup guy. Those aren't words often associated with football coaches and maybe under that smile he's as much a cutthroat bastard as most others, but I came to really like him and have been rooting for him in NY.

But with the insufferable punk Rogers playing there now that's going to make that difficult.

Either way, I'm going to miss watching Rogers eat his liver after his annual beatdown by the 49ers in the playoffs.

Those were always good times.

Well damn, I didn't mean to jinx the guy.

I mean, I don't like him but I didn't want to see him end his career after four plays.

You could actually see his Achilles blow on the replays, that really was too bad.

Insufferable or not, that's a sad way to end a fine career. Unless he tries to come back next year, which wouldn't surprise me because I think he was almost desperately looking forward to becoming the king of New York, but that likely wouldn't go much better than tonight did.

In the end the body betrays us all.

I know the energy got sucked out of that stadium like an 80's Victim or the Crime, but I haven't seen a team loose that hard since the Falcons in the second half of the Super Bowl. What the hell is up with the Bills. 

$75 million GUARANTEED for a 2 year contract. Sorry, hard to find too many tears. But yeah, not what you want to see. An incredible talent. Now he can sit on the beach and schroom! 

Feel a little sorry for all those Jets fans who paid big bucks for season tickets after the signing. "Sorry kid, no new school clothes this year. And we're stocking up on top ramen." 

Whatever entity Joe Namath made that Super Bowl deal with is still collecting its dues. That thing eats crystals for breakfast. 

I guess it's official: Aaron Rodgers is out for the season with a torn Achilles’ tendon

CNN - New York Jets quarterback Aaron Rodgers will miss the rest of the 2023 NFL season after suffering a complete tear of his left Achilles tendon, according to multiple sources.

CNN has reached out to the Jets and Rodgers’ representatives for details.

The Jets indirectly referenced the bleak outlook of the injury on social media, posting on X, formerly known as Twitter: “Not the way any of us wanted it to go, but we know the commitment you’ve made to this team will continue to impact us moving forward. Get well soon, Aaron Rodgers.”

Jets head coach Robert Saleh is expected to address the media in a previously scheduled virtual availability at 3:30 p.m. ET on Tuesday.

Ignore my AFC Central post above.

'The AFC Central is trash, Browns will FINALLY DOMINATE!

Odell was a bad signing for the Ravens, Flowers is going to be great, have him on two of my fantasy teams 

Brady to the Jets Rescue?

With those receivers, maybe Matt Barkley?

>>>>Brady to the Jets Rescue?

Um no. The person who drove the whole made up deflate gate thing was a former NY Jet's front office employee before he started working for the NFL. He was still butt hurt over the whole Belichick leaving the Jets to coach the Patriots thing.

If Brady put on a Jets uniform I would seriously be concerned for his safety. There is a white hot hatred of the Jets in New England that is completely unhinged, and no old quarterback who doesn't desperately need the money should play behind the Jets o-line.

Ravens should sign Kareem Hunt or Leonard Fournette. Hill is very good but injury prone. Edwards is a full back at best and Melvin Gordon is a bum.....

49ers grind out a tough win against a good LAms team.

And I didn't break anything in my house.

Win/win.

What the fuck is wrong with people. 

Patriots fan apparently punched at Gillette Stadium dies

https://turnto10.com/news/local/patriots-fan-dies-at-gillette-stadium-fo...

the "experts" said out D would be better this year...

Turtle, you know there's no D in San iego. (Or Los Angeles)

And isn't the Chargers head coach supposed to be a defense focused guy?

He sure seems to be in over his head.

>>>What the fuck is wrong with people<<<

I don't think there's a comprehensive list for that.

I've always said that nothing brings out the stupid like sports, politics and religion, but football specifically could win that boobie prize.

>>And isn't the Chargers head coach supposed to be a defense focused guy?<

he's an "analytics guy"......

Bills vs the phone next Sunday at 1pm should be a good one. The national media will be going crazy over tua, waddle and hill. Tua will be having nightmares about getting knocked into next week by Milano last year. Bills aren't losing this game. They have a ball control offense and a stingy, ball hawking defense. Go Bills!

Damn.  Broncos v. Dolphins.  70-20 Dolphins.   Second highest scoring game by one team ever.   

That Dolphins coach knows what he's doing. Their offense is nasty, and it's nice to see Mostert having success, he's a good guy.

The Cardinals beating Dallas is a shocker, but it helps the 49ers in a couple of ways.

In two weeks the 49ers host the 'boys on Sunday night, which will be a HUGE NFC game, but they play the Cardinals next week. That's a game that the 49ers could easily overlook with the BIG game the next week, but now Arizona will have the Niners full attention, and they're also now a game up on the Cowboys for playoff seeding.

It's still early, but the NFC is shaping up to be the 49ers, the Eagles, the Cowboys and everyone else, so every loss by the birds & the boys is a win for the Red & Gold.

And that Ravens loss is definitely your fault Alan. Switching game-day drinks??? What were you thinking?

 The media is going to tear you apart tomorrow.

GN!!!!!

>>And isn't the Chargers head coach supposed to be a defense focused guy?<

he's an "analytics guy"......

**Dip shit did it again today**

The Chargers failed to convert on fourth-and-one gamble from their own 24-yard line with 1:47 left when Joshua Kelley was stuffed at the line.

At least he was "smart" enough to do it against Kirk Cousins.  How do you like him now?  If the game's on the line?  No.

Going for it on your own 24 isn't "analytics", it's just plain stupid.

Every coach who's ever coached uses statistics and percentages to inform their decisions, but ultimately stupid is as stupid does.

Derp.

The bolts should have hired the 49ers guy who's raging in Miami now.

We might as well have AI coach if it's just going to be analytics. I remember Belichick saying once you never have to do anything in response to a reporter saying something about you have to run in that situation. 

Ugly win for the Pats, but I'll take it because Fuck the Jets. Don't worry Lance the Pats will take care to the Boys next week so the 49rs will be getting them after a two game loosing streak with their supporters saying the season is on the line. Jerry Jones teams always fall apart when it counts. 

>>>>Bills vs the phone next Sunday at 1pm should be a good one. The national media will be going crazy over tua, waddle and hill. Tua will be having nightmares about getting knocked into next week by Milano last year. Bills aren't losing this game. They have a ball control offense and a stingy, ball hawking defense. Go Bills!

Spot on, Denny. Awesome game, just as predicted, and not ugly either, but literally awesome. Squished. Their. Fins lol!!!!!

Well that was a horrible week. Patriots are back to being pre Bledsoe unwatchable. Any other coach would be on the hot seat. We will see - some tough decisions for Kraft coming up. 

Is SF one of the most injured teams ever or does it just only happen to their stars so it is more noticeable. We will get to see how real Purdy is now. 

As for the Ravens I haven't seen them play so honestly no idea but we are moving into the any given Sunday phase of the season where every teams weaknesses are well documented. There is no more hiding. This is when the season really starts. 

One final note on Jimmy G. I mean what the actual fuck. I think players get a bad rep for being "injury prone" especially in football, but Jimmy G is a magnet. You better have a good back up if you want him to play for you even as a back up. 

"See below" is a phrase idiots who post twice use. 

I know it's not NFL, but how about them Utah Utes beating USC for the 4th time in a row. Lots of happy folks around here.

And Caleb showed the chump he is by not congratulating the Utah pig farmer QB who played the game of his life, or any other Utes for that matter. Pout away Caleb.

F**K USC!!! Couldn't have happened to a more deserving outfit. No playoffs this year, Caleb.

>>>how about them Utah Utes beating USC<<<

Why is there low level/minor league football talk in an NFL thread???

This is the NFL thread, not the single-A minor league level football thread.

Start your own thread for that small-time minor league shit.

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Yikes. I'm guessing the 49ers lost tonight.

Lance, is the moon in son-of-a-bitch? Or just cranky pants? I hope this doesn't mean you're dealing with ill health or something serious.

Lance, I wasn't gonna start a thread about one college game. Thought by throwing it on here, some football fans may have seen it. Not everyone has a giant wall between college and NFL. 

Sorry to have violated one of the tenants of "The Gospel According to Lance." 

LOL. Yeah Mike, The Warriors, Niners, and Giants could've given a guy some heartburn this past year or so. Maybe Lance is a USC fan, too. At least he kept it short. 

Sorry again, Lance. Best wishes.  

fuck sc.

The Eagles and Chiefs have the best records and have been pretty consistent but not overwhelming. I suspect barring injuries they'll tighten up their games. Any of the top 12-14 or so teams could upset the apple cart on any given Sunday. I see Purdy as pretty good but his supporting cast is the secret sauce that will keep them in it. Your Ravers are looking about as good as anybody and seem to be gelling. Jags and the Lions are not to de discounted. Cowboys are faggots(nothing new). Plenty of time left for surprises. Feels like there are more variables than ever. 

Keep posting the cheerleader photos and meatloaf recipes! 

>>>>Can someone please tell me if there are any good teams to keep an eye on out there

Now that someone else bumped this thread, I'll chime in. First, really Astro? Uneeded stupidity. What does that mean? 

While I have a love/hate relationship with pro sports (they get paid way too much and the cost for a family to go to a game is ridiculous) I enjoy the NFL and NHL.

For football, what Jalen Hurts is doing with those Eagles is pretty amazing. 

I'm also paying attention to a couple of quarterbacks from Utah, former-BYU QB Zach Wilson and Jordan Love for the Packers, former QB of Utah State. Neither are setting the world on fire. Also watching former-Utah Ute Tight End Dalton Kincaid (Shit - did I mention THEM again? Ut-oh.) who is with Buffalo now, but Josh Allen isn't having the best year. Kincaid could be like Travis Kelce, but I don't know how he feels about pop music stars. But he has some great potential. 

I'm with you on Zac and Jordan having loads of potential. QB is the most demanding position and the supporting cast can make or break your career. Some guys take more time than others to get dialed in, some just never get a coach that helps them realized their potential. 

Buffalo has been underperforming for four years. Given their schedule unless they catch BIG fire it's more of the same. 

No clue what you are referring to with "First, really Astro? Uneeded stupidity. What does that mean?"

Cowboys? 

"America's Team"

Jerry Jones

Oh the Raiders. They will be paying out the remaining $60 million on Josh McDaniel's contract and are still paying out $60 million on Gruden's contract. I want to be a fired NFL coach. I think I would be really good at the job. 

Watched the Eagles Cowboys game and had to turn it off in the 3rd quarter when I realized all I really wanted out of the game was for an astroid to hit the stadium.

KC fans seemed to be enjoying Frankfurt more than the Miami fans who looked like they were wearing every piece of clothing they owned.

Without a major injury this season looks like a repeat of last year.  

I feel like the Ravens are the best team in th NFL right now.   I say that as a Lamar fan but more so an Eagles fan.  The Eagles make me nervous and wish they had picked up one more piece at the trade deadline but they did well just the same.   They win by a touch down or less quite frequently for the best team in the country.  Granted their schedule is tough but a breezy win every now and then would be great.   The Ravens seem to be moving on all cylinders.   And they are beating good teams handily and in different ways.  It's not just the Lamar show.  Both the Eagles and Ravens seem to be playing more team ball than individual ball and it's working.   Either way - I'm glad to see their success and hope it continues. 

So very strong rumors in Patriots land that Bill gets fired after they return from Germany. 

If that ends up being true they are going to have to change the words to the song.

They got a name for the winners in the world
I want a name when I lose
They call Alabama the Crimson Tide
Call me Maaac Jones

Here's a stat:

the chargers have lost 100 games over the last 10 years by 1 score or less.

sending offensive hall of famers to losing records and fruitless careers yet again. 
 

Niners look real once again. Who were those guys playing in red and gold in the previous 3 games?

Another pathetic showing from the Jets offense. First and goal from the 3 and there's a penalty and they go backwards? Geez.  

Dare I mention something that's not NFL? I thought about heading up to the university to watch the high school playoffs last Friday. I kinda like the amateur purity of it, and the excitement of playing for the state championship. (Cue Todd Snider - "We can take state.") 

Anyway, Zach Wilson's brother is now quarterbacking Zach's old high school team. Issac Wilson. On Friday, he threw and rushed for over 500 yards. IN THE FIRST HALF!!!     

>>> the chargers have lost 100 games over the last 10 years by 1 score or less.

it's very frustrating.

As if I needed another reason to hate the Jets

Even weirder seeing Woody without that stupid baseball hat on his head. S$%t team, and S$%$% franchise. Same as it ever was/

Wow Bills fire offensive coordinator. I don't think he is drawing up Josh Allen interceptions. 

How about 12 men on the field for that field goal. Sure guys, you can try TWICE! LOL!

I'd love to see someone do a comparison of injuries per game for the weekend/Monday games compared to Thursday games and particularly late season Thursday games. Worst thing the NFL has done. 

Broncos with a winning record

2nd in their division

who knew?

mostly winnable games for the rest of the season

playoffs?

10:00am games suck. They've been the bane of my football existence my entire life. They should be eliminated.

Alan, you gonna' be in the Bay Area for Christmas? If so, you gonna' make an effort to go to the Ravens/49ers game in Santa Clara on Christmas night? It's gonna' be an epic battle.

(OK, I'm gonna' stop using gonna')

GO NINERS!!!!!!!!

Someone tell Mahomes to quit bitching at the refs 'cause Toney couldn't decipher the line and was way offside. 

49ers are looking unstoppable right now. 

I generally have no ill will toward KC but yesterdays post game was just an embarrassment to that organization. He was offside. It was as clear a foul as there is in the NFL and it has been called 11 times this year. I mean they actually went on camera and said they should not be held to the standard of all those other teams. Just a complete embarrassment. That said I feel sorry for those refs. The Swifties are going to destroy them now. 

Fuck the Chiefs it is their own fault, Toney is an idiot. He does not know the plays and has demonstrated that in almost every game. He should of been cut a long while back.

and how does one team sign about 20 WR's including drafted players, and not one of them can consistently catch the ball? They have guys that can leave the DBs and safeties in the dust, but they cannot catch, it is comical watching the chiefs play 

how soon will the chargers fire their coach? Long overdue, should of gotten rid of him last year 

the Jags and a lot of analysts have been crazy for Trevor Lawrence, what do they see? Not consistent at all or that accurate. Bring back Minshew 

Helluva play by Kelce, but Toney was clearly offside, so it doesn't count.  Mahomes and Reid's protestations make them sound like whiney cunts.

>>>it has been called 11 times this year

Thanks for that stat, El Nino. Mahomes was acting like it's never called and the refs always warn the offending players when they see it. 

From Gene Steratore, Rules Analyst on CBS

"When officiating the line of scrimmage, general philosophy is not to be overly technical and split hairs over very minor infractions (such as a receiver's hand slightly breaking the LOS). However, when an infraction is so egregious and obvious, a flag has to be thrown. Kadarius Toney is blatantly lined up offside and in the neutral zone. You rarely see an offsides penalty on the offense, but that is not because this play in #BUFvsKC isn't a foul. It is because a receiver rarely lines up offsides."

One ref who was there said he was so far over the line they couldn't see the football. 

>>>Hi Lance, hope you are well. I haven't noticed you post for a while<<<

Thanks for the hope Alan. Unfortunately, for a while now my health has been performing more like the Raiders than the 49ers. It's a variety of things and nothing that's killing me (I hope) but it has me mostly land-locked and a bit grumpy these days.

I think mostly because of that I noticed a while back that my various online posts were taking a snarky, negative tone, which is not the attitude I want to project, so I thought it might be best to back away from the keyboard for a while.

That's something I'm planning on continuing, but your comment about Sunday morning 10:00am games struck a chord (I fucking hate them) and got me typing.

As for the Christmas night Ravens/49ers game, that could be a Super Bowl preview, but just on its own it will be a huge game for both teams and Vanilla Stadium should be rocking.

You won't be missing much from the venue experience though. The place is serviceable but it's bland, lacking gravitas, and it's a pain getting into and especially out of. The crowd should be well lubricated and fired up so the energy will be good, but the venue is meh.

Still, the game itself on Christmas evening should make for an exciting game, and while I've missed a few games this season I'm planning on being at that one.

BTW, I think you mentioned that you'll be seeing Phil at the Fillmore this weekend. I have a ticket for the Sunday show which I may or not make, most events these days are game-time decisions for me, but if you're at that one look in the very back corner on the right side of the room, between the elevator and the entry doors from the lobby. That's where I like to hang in that venue, right against the corner wall. If I'm there I'll be the tall lug wearing a Giants hat, be sure to say hi.

BTW, For whatever reason, it took the Fillmore staff FOREVER to get the crowd in at the Phil show last month, many people missed most or all of the first set, so if you're going I recommend you get in line early.

Oh, and...............

GO NINERS!!!!!!!!

Lance, hope you're back to full health soon.  I really appreciate you hooking me up with your ticket for the NYGiants/Niners game... your seat is awesome! 

I'm looking at possibly going to the Ravens game, but so far, even face prices are like double what I paid last year for the Seahawks/Niners playoff game.  If I do end up going, I'll be sure to try to finagle my way into your section to say hi.

GO NINERS!

Wow... not sure I needed to see how it is in Mr Sculptor's fantasy world.

golf clap.

pencil neck gone and gm.

now do the ownership!

Ravens came to play no doubt. 

A fine time for the Niners to take it on the chin given they were getting a lot of lip service. Might serve them well moving forward?

Love to see them meet again.

Belichick out - can't really complain about it since that is exactly how Belichick handled all hiring decisions. Move on - past performance doesn't matter. What have you done for me lately.

But still 24 years. Maybe the Pats will get Pete Carol back.

    Belichick w/DC Nick Saban in Cleveland '91-'94

go browns!

<chomp<chomp

At 71, I don't think Belichek was up for the tear down and rebuild the Pats situation dictates.  Sounds like he and Kraft were of one accord.  Carroll won't be heading there either.  If either of those guys takes another job, it will be somewhere they can win right now.

Yeah Jarod Mayo gets the job. I really hope he isn't the place holder for the upcoming tank it seasons. 

Yeah Jarod Mayo gets the job. I really hope he isn't the place holder for the upcoming tank it seasons. <<<

Pats are definitely not in tank mode. The defense has a solid base and they have plenty of cap room and decent draft capital, including the #3 pick. Kraft is 82 and it's his last run before handing over the reins. He's motivated.

I do like the Mayo selection. A high quality character and hopefully a long term solution. We will see.

Well we all know Bill would have traded the #3 pick for 2 second rounds and 3 third round picks.

I wish they would have at least interviewed some people out side of the organization not to mention that Vrabel is also available. I think Josh McDaniels proved that coaching under Bill doesn't necessarily lead to future success. 

Anyway looking forward to the seeing Miami play in -27 wind chill in KC on Saturday. 

>Yeah Jarod Mayo gets the job. I really hope he isn't the place holder for the upcoming tank it seasons. 

You never want to be the guy replacing THE GUY, be the next guy after that 

I saw the Mayo ascension was part of BB's last contract.  He is set up for a potential long run given he is now the youngest coach in the NFL... if he can pull it together. 

That's some long term thinking by Kraft.

did anyone dl and PAY for the stupid game on peacock?

a playoff game, really?

Fuck you nfl. just another way to alienate fans. 

i think its stupid and lame.

I saw it via my iPad via a low level NFL sub. 

Chiefs were solid. Played as if was a fair weather day. Their game was better than it had been no question, like they hit the playoff switch. Fins were competitive for the first half but got mowed over in the second. Tua has limits. 

I ponied up for peacock

$5 a month, cancel anytime

sign up was quick and easy

was trying to imagine how much peacock raked in, in between games yesterday

seems their site should crash with so much demand but they were on it to make the money grab

Go Pack!

So, one more time, it's the Packers & Niners in the playoffs. A lot of history there.

Love sure has looked good lately, and the 49ers will be coming off what amounts to three weeks off. That's been good for some important players to heal up, but that evil "rust" can also come into play. A lot of storylines in this one.

A Saturday night game, it should be raucous in Vanilla Stadium. On paper the 49ers are the better team, but that's the thing about NFL playoff games, at this point every team is good and in one game anything can happen.

Playoff games are what it's all about in all sports, and NFL playoff games are especially crazy. I'm definitely looking forward to being there Saturday night.

It's time to Hate Love!!! DOWN with the Packers!!!!!

GOOOOOOOO NINERS!!!!!!!!

OK, I'm messing around on the internet and came back here, so I'll comment on the Belichick situation.

I find it interesting that among all the tonnage of jabber we've heard about replacing Belichick the coach, there has been almost no talk about replacing Belichick the General Manager.

At least to my outsider's eye, it hasn't been so much the coaching that's gone south in New England, it's the talent that's cratered, and if Belichick as reported was really willing to give up that area of player acquisition control it might have been wise to keep him as the coach and look to hire a quality GM, something they have to do anyway, to work with him.

IMO, if you give him great players he'll find good coordinators and he'll continue winning. I think it was a mistake to fire Belichick; Kraft should have just hired a new group of top quality player personnel staff, let Belichick focus on coaching and I believe things would have righted in NE.

Washington just hired the 49ers top personnel guy, who is damn good, and if/when that team starts winning it will be the HC who will get the credit, but I'm expecting to see the talent quickly rise there as well.

Fortunately I don't care about New England's issues, but if I did I'd be more than a bit focused on who the next GM will be, something no one else seems to be that concerned about, but is where the real issues seem to lay.

love and stoud were amazing! 

love seeing jerry jones eat crow at his palace. suck it!

I just can't get into watching humans give themselves brain damage, even if they are consenting adults.  With more research done they are finding even high school players are getting brain damage from CTE.  I realize I'm in a minority position on this. I'm not saying ban football, as consenting adults should basically be allowed to do as they wish as long as they aren't harming others.

I do wonder about tackle football be played in middle and high school. And why does the NFL get to use our universities as minor leagues for developing their talent? I think the baseball model of having minor league teams is the way to go. The NFL could certainly afford this.  Maybe this should have been a new thread, not sure. It is how I feel about the NFL 2023/2024. Carry on, 

Just heard Cold Rain album version prior to a break during Bills vs Steelers.

I'm used to hearing GD, WSP, and Phish on FOX NFL.

Bills-Steelers today is CBS. 

Gotta hand it to the grounds crew at the Bills stadium. That field looked amazing. 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/photos-snow-cleared-at-highmark-sta...

Well that was a crappy Wild Card Weekend. Just one close game. It was great for upsets but other than that not great to watch if you didn't care who won. Glad to see the Lions advance. I wonder what city has taken over the longest playoff drought now. 

The demise of the Cowboys, Eagles and Dolphins has been one for the ages. All three of those teams looked unbeatable at different times during the season.

Would have been nice to see the Dolphins play somewhere other than that freezer. I don't understand why indoor and warm weather teams don't go for the whole week before the game. You can't adjust to that cold in one day. If you saw the halftime interview with the Dolphins coach he sounded like Biden. That kind of cold makes your brain stop working if you aren't used to it. 

As for the Pats and the GM role the fan base is all over that and have very strong opinions about who shouldn't get the job. I don't follow that closely anymore so don't have an opinion, but no way Mayo gets that authority. Would be fun to see Belichick and Saban team up to coach some Div 2 college team or a high school team. 

The 49ers may well be in for a shootout this weekend against a very hot team that is playing with house money.

I hate being reminded by local talking heads about the one seed 49ers team that got knocked out in the first round by the Vikings, but it wouldn't surprise me if history repeats itself Saturday.

I saw this in Reddit:

Favre > 49ers

49ers > Rodgers

Love ? 49ers

Hoping the pendulum hasn't swung back just yet, though it may not matter either way considering the talent of the teams left in the AFC.

GO 49ers!!!

Yeah Googly, it's funny you mention that. I haven't heard anyone else bring it up, but for the past few days I've been thinking quite a bit about that game in '87.

Very similar circumstances to this season.

That was Montana's worst big-game performance of his career, the entire team came out flat and they got punched in the mouth by a good/not great team.

After that game people were calling for Walsh's head, saying Joe was washed up, that Eddie should blow the whole thing up. And that was before social media; imagine how it will go if a similar situation occurs on Saturday.

Or don't imagine it, and just hope that history won't repeat.

I was 27 when Anthony Carter & the Vikings shocked our world at Candlestick in 1987. I was disappointed, but I knew they were good and I had plenty of time then to be patient (and the best of times did come right after that) but in these much later days I'm not in such a patient mindset. If they lose to Green Bay (or Detroit the week after) I won't be nearly as reactionary as many will be around here, but I will be more than disappointed.

And that's because I believe that the only team that can beat the 49ers this year is the 49ers, but to get #6 this year they're going to have to run a full gauntlet and beat three outstanding teams in a row, so they can't afford any lackluster or even average performances (in a more fair world they'd be playing the mediocre Bucs this week instead of the rising Packers, oh well).

But, they ARE good enough to beat three outstanding teams in a row, they just have to do it.

No foolish turnovers, not too many stupid penalties, and for the love of god HOLD ONTO THOSE PUNTS!!!

Hopefully they're listening.

GN!!!!!!!!

I wonder if Jim Irsey overdosed on being rich and white?

Nah, Fabes, he overdosed because he's an addict. 

One thing I learned in the year I worked as a volunteer with the Harm Reduction Alliance is that Addiction doesn't care how much money you have or what your ethnicity is.  It's indiscriminate.

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Since I work on Sundays. I don't follow the NFL like I used to.  Growing up in D.C., I'm still a fan of the Burgundy & Gold, but I don't care for the new Commanders name, and miss calling them the Redskins, like most of the fanbase.  We've sucked for a while, but now that the Snyders have sold the team, it feels like our fortunes are changing.  It will be interesting to see how long they stick with Ron Rivera as HC.  His rope must be getting pretty short by now. 
 

Here in Seattle, the big talk is Pete Carroll getting kicked to the curb.  That guy did a lot of good things for the Seahawks, including leading them to their only title.  As he still had the desire and energy for the job, his exit is awkward.

My older brothers were all on the Browns bandwagon this year, so I felt bad for them.  The Joe Flacco revival was a nice story, but it had a cruel ending.  Nevertheless, things are looking up in Cleveland  

As I like most things Baltimore, and also am fond of San Francisco, I'd also enjoy a Ravens/Niners Super Bowl.  

good points Dave, but you are obviously not familiar with Cleveland and the Browns. Flacco ended like we all knew it would, even though the ride was fun. Flacco just confirmed the $250 million dollar anchor tied to our neck, the team is adrift, and Lake Erie is cold and unforgiving. The Browns are the city, and the city is The Browns, no matter what the Guardians, the Commanders of the Midwest, and Cavs fans say. 

they want to ban tackle football for kids in ca...

>>>>they want to ban tackle football for kids in ca...

And that is why people hate liberals. You can't be for allowing parents and doctors to make decisions about trans kids and then have the government ban football for kids. That is a decision for the parents and the kids. 

All the talk about the Cowgirls not being in the Conference Championship(NFL Final Four) since the '95 season, their last title, the Dolphins were the '93 season, last Super Bowl win, 1973 season.

Just heard this AM on ESPN that the Niners haven't won a Supe since the '94 season.  Big difference is SF has been to 2 title games and 7 conference title games since their last title.

Al least of the 3 teams that tanked this year in the postseason, the Eagles actually went and won 1 of 3 Super Bowls since the mid 90's & the same 7 conference title games as SF.

Have the government ban football for kids.That is a decision for the parents and the kids.>>>

The decision to use artificial turf in High School is destroying kids lower bodies with shredded knees at 16,17 years old.  HBO Sports(RIP) did a great story on this a year or two ago.

>>>Niners haven't won a Supe since the '94 season

I remember working down town during that victory parade. I was pretty new to SF at that time so it was exciting for me being my first parade, but the vibe of the city was a big yawn. If they win this year I'm sure it will be different and much more like the first SF Giants World Series. Now that was a crazy parade. 

>And that is why people hate liberals. You can't be for allowing parents and doctors to make decisions about trans kids and then have the government ban football for kids. That is a decision for the parents and the kids. <

i know mannn....i played as a kid k-7th.

Looks like Belichick is on to Atlanta. The odds are 28-3

22 years ago today

https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/19ao7jg/highlight_tuck_rule_game_happened_22_years_ago/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

hear me out

If a player gets taken out of the game for concussion protocol

I think its fair to remove the player that inflicted the injury 

> It looked a little dicey at halftime, but whatever drugs or satanic rituals or holy ghost prayin they do in the locker room during halftime; it worked. 

Everybody knows Balmer has the best crack!

..and there's proof! 

Wide right - those poor suffering Bills fans. I hope they do get theirs someday. 

The Niners pulled that one out of their ass... they better treat every single drive like that last one from here on out if they want to have any chance (and hopefully Deebo is back in 3 weeks IF they can manage to get past a very good and hungry Lions' team).  Luckily it's supposed to not rain this Sunday here, so small hand Brock should have a better showing.  I wish he would have just stuck with the glove, but it could also have been the 3 week layoff plus playoff jitters.

On the other end of the spectrum, the KC Swifties seem to be playing their best ball when it matters and that F'n Mahomes just keeps doing Mahomes things. I would not bet against him breaking more hearts again this weekend, and even though no one wants to face that guy in the Superbowl, at least their defense is less dominant than Baltimore's, so keeping the score close would be much more doable.

GO SF!!

Is Lance ok?

I look forward to his boots on the ground reviews.

I got the over in both with both home teams

>>>Is Lance ok?<<<

Compared to what?

Well, relatively speaking I'm OK, although that game on Saturday didn't help my nerves or my heart. It sure was exciting though. There's nothing quite like the energy, excitement & glory of an intense NFL playoff game. Experiencing bursting joy with 70,000 people at the exact same moment is a hell of a drug, and it reminded me of why after 42 years I still go through all the hassles and expense to experience it live.

So, a review? OK, deep breath, here goes........

Throughout the game and right up until fucking Greenlaw finally went down at the end, I thought the Packers were going to win that game.

I thought the 49ers were clearly suffering from the effects of having not prepared to play a meaningful game for three weeks. They were uncharacteristically sluggish, they were out of rhythm on offense, they were slow to react on defense (why they were slipping so much) and were consistently taking bad angles.

Conversely, I thought the Packers were sharp, quick and on top of everything they were doing. They were prepared and ready to play.

And like most, I also thought the rain must have been messing with Purdy, because he was missing many of the throws he usually makes.

Overall, I walked out thinking that the 49ers played poorly and were lucky to win.

After dispassionately re-watching the game again at home, I agreed with my first two takes, but now don't agree so much on the other two. I don't think the rain bothered Purdy as much as it seemed. He definitely didn't play his best game, but he really only threw a couple of poor, unforced errant passes. On most of his misses he was either forced to throw too soon because of pressure or his receivers were slightly off rhythm or out of position (often because the Pack was playing good defense).

As for them playing "poorly", after watching it again I came away thinking that it was more a heavyweight NFL playoff game between two excellent teams, that the Packers played fucking GOOD and the Niners not as bad as it seemed.

I think that both teams played well, both made big plays and forced mistakes by the other, both got some lucky breaks, and both teams also played poorly at times. The difference was that in the end the 49ers played well when they HAD to, and the Packers didn't. That's what winning teams do.

Oh, and that's also what great quarterbacks do, which is what Purdy did, and Love didn't.

Purdy didn't play great, but he did make some great throws through the game, he kept his composure when things weren't going well and most importantly he was perfect when he HAD to be, while everyone's favorite new toy Jordan Love faded and ultimately threw the game away with a brain dead heave in his biggest moment.

Love really came on this season and he looks like he's going to be an excellent QB, but if I was a Packers fan that final throw would stick in the back of my mind just a little bit, because it's those moments where the contenders separate from the pretenders. It was just one play and he's just getting started, but both young QBs faced that moment and one rose while the other fell.

As for Purdy, many say that he doesn't have the physical tools to be great, that he's being carried by the talent around him, that he's just a "game manager".

Tools? He's not 6-5 with a rocket arm and a sprinter's speed, but he's quick, his mechanics & rhythm are rock solid so he's accurate and on time with his throws, and maybe the two most important tools, the one between his ears & the one in his chest, he has in spades.

Carried? Maybe, but in every team sport even the greatest players need great players around them to win.

Game manager? I don't even know what that means, but since especially these days we all love to stick simplistic labels on everything, I'll say that the dude is more than just a manager, he's a Field General. He always knows exactly what he's doing, he's always in control and he's calm under pressure.

I don't know if this facebook clip will play on here, but to me it's a subtle but clear sign of why he's so good...

https://www.facebook.com/49ersCBS/videos/1077436293403555

On that play the tight end was supposed to go in motion, but with the clock ticking down Purdy stops him because he saw/he felt how the defense was set, he gets the snap off at the last possible moment and runs the play.

When talking about Purdy after the game a couple of players pointed that play out. It may be a little thing, but under the biggest pressure Purdy was in complete control, he handled the situation and he executed the play.......... touchdown.

There are definitely better quarterbacks in the league, but as a 49ers fan I am very happy to have that guy running the team I root for. To all the naysayers? Well, as Prince would have said, we'll just put them over there.

Now, next week. The Lions have scared me all season. They've flown under the radar but they're damn good. They're explosive on offense and can stuff the run on defense, and maybe most importantly they're a classic underdog, a "team of destiny", which carries a certain gravitas.

EVERYBODY (except 49ers fans) wants to see them win. The 49ers are the Evil Empire this week for sure.

The Niners are going to have to play better than they did last week, and I expect that they will, but Detroit is nasty, and last week also demonstrated once again how important Deebo Samuel is to the Niners offense. I'll be shocked if he doesn't play in such an important game, but will he hold up?

If he does then I think the people of Detroit will have to wait another year. If he doesn't then I think it will be close, and the winner will have two weeks to figure out how to deal with Lamar Jackson and that great Ravens defense.

So, here we go, one more time.

GOOOOO NINERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks great review

Well looks like I'm going to have to root for the Chiefs

Homemade Bloody Marys garnished with celery and Old Bay BBQ shrimps

Homemade sourdough crackers with Murray's Delice soft ripened cheese and mixed olive tapenade

Hatch chili cheddar cheese burnt ends sausage links

Fat Tire in cans for back up

As much as I like the Lion's story, Go Niners!

I hope Lamar can pull it off but who doesn't want to see Taylor in Vegas?

Ravens keep stepping on their dicks. They just lack poise and focus. Did anyone tell them it's win or go home. 

Kelsey surely gained points with his blonde billionaire girlfriend 

I look forward to seeing her outfit for Vegas! 

Suspect the Niners are sitting up in their chairs watching the Chiefs performance. 

 It's Sunday.  Kansas is god's country. Baltimore is where The Wire was produced. The cards were stacked.

Quoth the Raven never more.

But furthermore, jeez Louise, Alan.  The Orioles have the most stacked assemblage of young talent we'll probably ever see in our lifetimes, Camden Yards is a great place to catch a game, and they have Mr. Splash!  Come on, who else has Mr. Splash?

Even if you have been somehow traumatized by the Naional Pastime (you don't strike me as a commie....were you the last person picked for the kickball teams in your 2nd Grade P.E. class?), you still have Lacrosse to fall back on, which both Johns Hopkins and the University of Maryland excel at.  Tough luck for the Ravens, but it's still a good time for Sports fans in Maryland.

Wow. Just, wow.

Sometimes it's absolutely better to be lucky than good.

But being lucky AND good is best, and the 49ers were both today.

Whew.

What a game.

Even as a 49ers fan I feel bad for Lions fans, they were so close. But, to the winners go the spoils, so we Niners fans get one more game, and another shot at that damned Mahomes.

Aren't we all sick of fucking Mahomes by now?

I have a feeling I'm soon going to be more sick of him than I already am.

He's so good.

Anyway, sorry Lions fans.

That was one hell of a game.

Now, FUCK THE CHIEFS!!!

GOOOOOOOOOOOOO NINERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh, and congrats to Chiefs and Niners fans.  Should be a good game.  Too bad they're playing it in Las Vegas.  What a travesty.

BTW, Brock Purdy, not so bad.

The presumptive league MVP Lamar Jackson, not so good.

And Vegas? A perfect town for the Super Bowl. The most bloated American event played in a first class venue in the #1 party town in America, the most decadent town in America?

It checks all the boxes.

Win the game Niners, while everyone else loses their money and their minds.

soooooo excited Taylor's going to the super bowl !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Win the game Niners, while everyone else loses their money and their minds."

First we get another two weeks of the national sports media and a whole lot of other dummkopf​s raging on San Francisco and the Bay Area.

The Kansas City Chiefs ~ "America's Team!"

Las Vegas is a filthy pit in a pitiless desert. 

GO NINERS!

whomever i root for has a 90% chance of failure...

if you care, you should pay me to root for your opponent.

- the cooler.

l am enjoying the MAGA meltdown. All the people who said they quit watching the NFL after Kaepernick are loosing their minds over Taylor Swift going to the Super Bowl after months of calling her a distraction, and now they have to hope the San Francisco team wins. Heads are exploding and just when you thought they couldn't be more stupid.

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I'll go with being out-coached>>>

Per ESPN, the Ravens ran once(?) on 2nd down the entire game.  Ever heard of keeping the other team's offense off the field??   

Note to Danny Boy & The Lions:  Take the F'n points......

Re: Ms. Swift at the SB, I had heard she'd be playing her 4th consecutive show on her tour in Tokyo the night before, but her fans are going bonkers with the logistics. 

The star has a concert in Tokyo on Feb. 10 — the night before the game, which will be held in Las Vegas on Feb. 11.

By one fan's math, if Swift ends her show in Tokyo by 11 p.m. — or midnight at the latest — and boards a 13-hour flight, she could be back on U.S. soil on the night of Feb. 10, in time for some sleep before the game. The Super Bowl kicks off on Feb. 11 at 6:30 p.m. Eastern time, 3:30 p.m. in Las Vegas.

Her tour resumes in Australia Feb 16th. 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/taylor-swift-attending-super-bowl-to-...

They covered getting back from Japan on West Wing. She will make it no problem

https://youtu.be/cGXp34c_o48?si=rz-J0SDtWxlGz1aU&t=12

>Note to Danny Boy & The Lions:  Take the F'n points....<

right?

basically fucked them going into half time.

>>>whomever i root for has a 90% chance of failure<<<

I think the tide will be turning for you now Turtle.

Jim Harbaugh doesn't lose 90% of anything.

He's a strange bird and I don't know if he'll be a long-term savior, but he's a leader and motivator and he's going to toughen up the Chargers.

He may end up melting down like he did with the 49ers, but at least for a while the Chargers are going to be fun to watch, and are going to win more games.

Just not two weeks from now.

GO NINERS GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

...

Red:  Hope is a dangerous thing. Hope can drive a man insane.  It's got no use on the inside [of a dome].

Andy: Remember Red, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies.

Go Niners!

Atta' boy Googly.

While my heart is filled with hope, my brain is filled with doubt.

Our boys in Scarlet & Gold are certainly good enough to beat the Chiefs, but I fear the Chiefs defense, their experience and the Mahomes factor will be very difficult to overcome.

I believe that the Chiefs are in the middle of what in the future will be known as their great dynasty, and Mahomes is well on his way to shoving into the GOAT conversation.

The 49ers are an excellent, championship caliber team, but their defense has been a bit shaky and they're running into a buzzsaw. I can't help but feel that the Niners are in the place the '84 Dolphins, the '88 Bengals and the '89 Broncos found themselves in; now it could be our turn to be slapped down by greatness.

But........... if the 49ers play their best game, especially on defense, they are definitely good enough to win.

Either way, it's been a great season and it will be fun to see what happens.

CHOP THE CHOP!!!

GO NINERS!!!!!!!!!

Taking the Chiefs. With his history, it's hard to bet against Mahomes. You just know he's gonna do it, pulling rabbits from a hat if needed. And I like Andy Reid. But either is OK. Two of the best teams.  

I know it's an awful lot to ask, but I just want a clean game on the ref's part.

Beyond that may the better team prevail! 

"with an assist from Taylor Swift's marketing magic, can be crowned America's Team and NFL fandom will spread throughout the world"

until it's rumored that Taylor is steppin' out with Purdy

the clue will be when Kohls /Kmart is using her music in the Superbowl commercials

someone please generate an AI with Taylor-Brock -Travis cuckhold tape...