Perry Farrell has always been a twisted soul who lives on his own planet, but something seems to be seriously wrong with him now. Apparently, at the previous show in NYC he was so incoherent and acting so strangely that people thought he was having a psychotic breakdown on stage, so this is not a one-time issue.
And Perry hitting on a bottle of wine throughout shows has been part of his shtick since the first time I saw him in 1991, so that's nothing new. He's clearly drunk, as he was in NYC, but this seems to be something more.
He had postponed and then completely canceled a recent Porno for Pyros tour with no explanation, and now this. It's hard to see this tour continuing.
I had already decided not to buy a ticket for my local show because the past couple of times I've seen them it's been more of an exhibition than a real band, but they're one of the great rock bands of all time, one of the best I've ever seen and I love Perry, so this is sad.
Last time I saw them had 4th row tickets. This was for BFD at shoreline a radio station thing so lot's of bands. Every band gets louder as the day goes on and Janes was the headliner. Garbage played before them and were very loud and good. Janes came on and by their third song I had to leave. Just painfully loud and I had ear plugs in and still couldn't take it. Ministry was my previous loudest but this blew them away.
Gave my tickets to kids on the lawn before I walked out. They were happy.
Perhaps a bit biased, but a bit of clarity is provided by Ferrell's wife...
“ettylaufarrell Rather than speculating, I thought to post a first person account of what happened on stage with @janesaddiction last night at the @lenderpavilion in Boston.
WHO: Perry Farrell & Dave Navarro
HOW: Clearly there had been a lot of tension and animosity between the members.. the magic that made the band so dynamic. Well, the dynamite was lit. Perry got up in Dave's face and body checked him.
WHY: Perry's frustration had been mounting, night after night, he felt that the stage volume had been extremely loud and his voice was being drowned out by the band. Perry had been suffering from tinnitus and a sore throat every night. But when the audience in the first row, started complaining up to Perry cussingat him that the band was planning too loud and that they couldn't hear him, Perry lost it.
WHEN: The band started the song Ocean before Perry was ready and did the count off.. The stage volume was so loud at that point, that Perry couldn't hear pass the boom and the vibration of the instruments and by the end of the song, he wasn't singing, he was screaming just be to be heard.
SO WHO WON THE FIGHT:
Why, Eric Avery of course. While Dave was keeping Perry at arm's length to de-escalate the situation. Dan rushed over to de-escalate as well by holding Perry back. Dave walked away to take his guitar off. Eric walked up to Perry, upstage, in the dark, behind Dan, put Perry in a headlock and punched him in the stomach three times. Kevin, crewmember with a long hair with long hair pulled Eric away. Then Eric nonchalant walked off to the front of the stage to apologize to audience for the show ended early.
WHAT WAS THE AFTERMATH?
Dave still looked handsome and cool in the middle of a fight. Perry was a crazed beast for the next half an hour - he finally did not calm down, but did breakdown and cried and cried. Eric, well he either didn't understand what descalation meant or took advantage of the situation and got in a few cheap shots on Perry."
The bit about Avery isn't surprising, as it's well-known that he has hated Farrell since the '80s, which is one of the reasons why they broke up at the height of their greatness in '91.
And it's clear that his voice is trashed and the explanation makes sense, but Jane's has ALWAYS been one of the loudest bands I've ever heard, so Perry melting down that way still points to something else going on with him.
Perhaps not being able to face that his body is failing him and his time as a rock 'n roll singer is over?
Perhaps not being able to handle the fact that his bandmates aren't listening to him/that he's not the leader of the band anymore?
Perhaps I'm a just completely uninformed outsider speculating about other people's lives on the internet?
Whatever the full truth is, it is a sad situation.
>>>Just painfully loud and I had ear plugs in and still couldn't take it<<<
I was also at that show and had the exact same reaction. I got off the clock early that night and was about 15 rows back for Jane's, and I too had to bail because of the blasting sound. It was even too loud at the top of the 200 sections, which is almost unheard of at Shoreline.
But Perry didn't seem to have an issue that night.
Hopefully some rest, reflection and compromise can allow them to continue the tour.
Hell, if they end up playing the show in SF next month maybe I'll go now.
davenavarro Due to a continuing pattern of behavior and the mental health difficulties of our singer Perry Farrell, we have come to the conclusion that we have no choice but to discontinue the current US tour.
Our concern for his personal health and safety as well as our own has left us no alternative. We hope that he will find the help he needs.
We deeply regret that we are not able to come through for all our fans who have already bought tickets. We can see no solution that would either ensure a safe environment on stage or reliably allow us to deliver a great performance on a nightly basis.
it's probably over a one in a million odds that a band like Jane's rises to the success level they've had.
That being said it's always sad to me to see someone suffering publicly from alleged substance abuse and/or mental illness.
The 3 other guys in the band seem to be on the level, per their statement about canceling the tour.
I hope Perry gets the help he needs.
The loudest show I ever saw was Jesus Lizard/Melvins at First Ave in Mpls circa 1993 or 94. Scary volume levels. Bob Mould's band Sugar pushed those aural limits as well.
melvins is also up at the top of my list of loudest shows, jay. melvins, and a show from el-p's final tour before forming run the jewels. both shows made my ears ring for several hours afterward, and are the only 2 shows ive ever been to that genuinely had me worried about long term hearing damage, although as far as i can tell i dont have any lasting effects. luckily it seems like these days, most shows are played at a pretty reasonable volume that isnt to high or to quiet. IME its very rare for me to be dissatisfied with the volume a show is played at in either direction, unless the crowd is super chatty/drunk and more volume would be required to drown them out, but imo thats more of a people problem than a volume problem. personally i dont really understand why live music would need to be played at ear ringing volume. these shows did not provide more intense music or a more noticeable sensory experience, it was just loud af.
Philadelphia Inquirer, November 20, 1990 20 ARRESTED IN POST-CONCERT MELEE
The place was packed and the mood was surly. Especially after lead singer Perry Farrell began baiting the 3,000 people who jammed the Tower Theater to hear his innovative rock band, Jane's Addiction. So when the group abruptly walked off the stage last night after 51 minutes of music, things got nasty. Irate concert-goers moved outside the Upper Darby theater about 10:30 p.m., yelling, throwing bottles, blocking traffic and refusing to move. The street filled, tensions swelled. Suddenly, the police detailed to work the concert knew they had a bad situation on their hands.
Jane's Addiction, a group that fuels innovative lyrics with hard-rock octane, has been a hot commodity on the concert tour this year - especially amid rumors that the band may break up once the tour is done. The Tower show was an immediate sellout. Lead singer Farrell is not one to shy from controversy. And he was in true form last night, according to those on hand. "He was complaining about the crowd from the stage," said one concert- goer. "He was saying things like it was made up of young, disaffected suburban kids." When the band made its abrupt departure, the audience became hostile.
Philadelphia Daily News JANE'S ADDICTION A BAD TRIP FOR FANS, PROMOTERS
Concert-goers agitated over Jane's Addiction's unsatisfyingly short, and sometimes obnoxious, Tower Theater performance Monday night can take some revenge. Show attendees were so ticked off at the psychedelic metal posers' curtailed 51-minute performance on Monday that they blocked traffic, then rocked the group's tour bus and pelted it with bottles and stones outside the Tower at 69th and Ludlow streets. Many epithets also were chanted, including the group's name minus the last syllable.
Farrell, who has been threatening to leave the group because the music is no longer "spontaneous," took a fast dislike to the makeup of the Tower audience and their unwillingness to storm the stage. Actually, Tower guards prevent fans from congregating in front of the stage. After the first song, Farrell started baiting the crowd, declaring "This is bull - - - -." He was also heard to proclaim "I don't owe you anything," and "you're all white . . . you can't dance" and "I bet you think this is loud." They hadn't performed their most popular songs, "Jane Says," "Stop" and their current MTV breakout track, "Been Caught Stealing." The last song can be blamed for bringing out some of those well- scrubbed suburban youth that so ticked off Farrell - as well as the group's old original hardcore and speed-metal devotees.
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on Saturday, September 14, 2024 – 08:47 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayMakwwevqI
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on Saturday, September 14, 2024 – 09:59 am
I was on the fence about
I was on the fence about going tomorrow night but my interest has increased.
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on Saturday, September 14, 2024 – 10:01 am
Damn. Was thinking about
Damn. Was thinking about hitting the Portland show on Oct. 9. Wonder if the tour will make it that far?
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on Saturday, September 14, 2024 – 10:49 am
Nothing's shocking ...
Nothing's shocking ...
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on Saturday, September 14, 2024 – 11:54 am
saw the show in SD, it was
saw the show in SD, it was good but not amazing
perry went on a tirade about rich people.
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on Saturday, September 14, 2024 – 01:51 pm
Ugh. What a mess. Navarro is
Ugh. What a mess. Navarro is a saint.
Literally every single video I've seen of them has perry basically hitting the bottle the whole time.
(((65 year old rock stars throwing drunken public tantrums)))
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on Saturday, September 14, 2024 – 04:57 pm
Perry Farrell has always been
Perry Farrell has always been a twisted soul who lives on his own planet, but something seems to be seriously wrong with him now. Apparently, at the previous show in NYC he was so incoherent and acting so strangely that people thought he was having a psychotic breakdown on stage, so this is not a one-time issue.
And Perry hitting on a bottle of wine throughout shows has been part of his shtick since the first time I saw him in 1991, so that's nothing new. He's clearly drunk, as he was in NYC, but this seems to be something more.
He had postponed and then completely canceled a recent Porno for Pyros tour with no explanation, and now this. It's hard to see this tour continuing.
I had already decided not to buy a ticket for my local show because the past couple of times I've seen them it's been more of an exhibition than a real band, but they're one of the great rock bands of all time, one of the best I've ever seen and I love Perry, so this is sad.
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on Saturday, September 14, 2024 – 05:23 pm
Last time I saw them had 4th
Last time I saw them had 4th row tickets. This was for BFD at shoreline a radio station thing so lot's of bands. Every band gets louder as the day goes on and Janes was the headliner. Garbage played before them and were very loud and good. Janes came on and by their third song I had to leave. Just painfully loud and I had ear plugs in and still couldn't take it. Ministry was my previous loudest but this blew them away.
Gave my tickets to kids on the lawn before I walked out. They were happy.
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on Saturday, September 14, 2024 – 05:45 pm
Perhaps a bit biased, but a
Perhaps a bit biased, but a bit of clarity is provided by Ferrell's wife...
“ettylaufarrell Rather than speculating, I thought to post a first person account of what happened on stage with @janesaddiction last night at the @lenderpavilion in Boston.
WHO: Perry Farrell & Dave Navarro
HOW: Clearly there had been a lot of tension and animosity between the members.. the magic that made the band so dynamic. Well, the dynamite was lit. Perry got up in Dave's face and body checked him.
WHY: Perry's frustration had been mounting, night after night, he felt that the stage volume had been extremely loud and his voice was being drowned out by the band. Perry had been suffering from tinnitus and a sore throat every night. But when the audience in the first row, started complaining up to Perry cussing at him that the band was planning too loud and that they couldn't hear him, Perry lost it.
WHEN: The band started the song Ocean before Perry was ready and did the count off.. The stage volume was so loud at that point, that Perry couldn't hear pass the boom and the vibration of the instruments and by the end of the song, he wasn't singing, he was screaming just be to be heard.
SO WHO WON THE FIGHT:
Why, Eric Avery of course. While Dave was keeping Perry at arm's length to de-escalate the situation. Dan rushed over to de-escalate as well by holding Perry back. Dave walked away to take his guitar off. Eric walked up to Perry, upstage, in the dark, behind Dan, put Perry in a headlock and punched him in the stomach three times. Kevin, crewmember with a long hair with long hair pulled Eric away. Then Eric nonchalant walked off to the front of the stage to apologize to audience for the show ended early.
WHAT WAS THE AFTERMATH?
Dave still looked handsome and cool in the middle of a fight. Perry was a crazed beast for the next half an hour - he finally did not calm down, but did breakdown and cried and cried. Eric, well he either didn't understand what descalation meant or took advantage of the situation and got in a few cheap shots on Perry."
The bit about Avery isn't surprising, as it's well-known that he has hated Farrell since the '80s, which is one of the reasons why they broke up at the height of their greatness in '91.
And it's clear that his voice is trashed and the explanation makes sense, but Jane's has ALWAYS been one of the loudest bands I've ever heard, so Perry melting down that way still points to something else going on with him.
Perhaps not being able to face that his body is failing him and his time as a rock 'n roll singer is over?
Perhaps not being able to handle the fact that his bandmates aren't listening to him/that he's not the leader of the band anymore?
Perhaps I'm a just completely uninformed outsider speculating about other people's lives on the internet?
Whatever the full truth is, it is a sad situation.
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on Saturday, September 14, 2024 – 09:02 pm
Decided on hold onto my
Just received notification that tomorrow is canceled.
Oh well, I kinda' wanted to watch football anyway.
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on Saturday, September 14, 2024 – 09:11 pm
sam will deliver
sam will deliver
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on Saturday, September 14, 2024 – 11:36 pm
>>>Just painfully loud and I
>>>Just painfully loud and I had ear plugs in and still couldn't take it<<<
I was also at that show and had the exact same reaction. I got off the clock early that night and was about 15 rows back for Jane's, and I too had to bail because of the blasting sound. It was even too loud at the top of the 200 sections, which is almost unheard of at Shoreline.
But Perry didn't seem to have an issue that night.
Hopefully some rest, reflection and compromise can allow them to continue the tour.
Hell, if they end up playing the show in SF next month maybe I'll go now.
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on Sunday, September 15, 2024 – 11:19 am
Loudest show I have ever seen
Loudest show I have ever seen, Jane's Addiction at Ruth Eckerd Hall Clearwater Florida
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on Monday, September 16, 2024 – 11:35 am
davenavarro Due to a
davenavarro Due to a continuing pattern of behavior and the mental health difficulties of our singer Perry Farrell, we have come to the conclusion that we have no choice but to discontinue the current US tour.
Our concern for his personal health and safety as well as our own has left us no alternative. We hope that he will find the help he needs.
We deeply regret that we are not able to come through for all our fans who have already bought tickets. We can see no solution that would either ensure a safe environment on stage or reliably allow us to deliver a great performance on a nightly basis.
Our hearts are broken.
Dave, Eric and Stephen
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on Monday, September 16, 2024 – 11:48 am
Next thread
Next thread
bands who burned out live on stage
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on Monday, September 16, 2024 – 11:54 am
Did you ever feel cheated?
Did you ever feel cheated?
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on Monday, September 16, 2024 – 01:33 pm
Thought about going to
Thought about going to Bridgeport, but imagine how bad they would have sounded in that concrete shit hole. Loud + distorted x echo + reverb = yikes.
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on Monday, September 16, 2024 – 02:17 pm
it's probably over a one in a
it's probably over a one in a million odds that a band like Jane's rises to the success level they've had.
That being said it's always sad to me to see someone suffering publicly from alleged substance abuse and/or mental illness.
The 3 other guys in the band seem to be on the level, per their statement about canceling the tour.
I hope Perry gets the help he needs.
The loudest show I ever saw was Jesus Lizard/Melvins at First Ave in Mpls circa 1993 or 94. Scary volume levels. Bob Mould's band Sugar pushed those aural limits as well.
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on Monday, September 16, 2024 – 03:13 pm
Jethro Tull Rock Island tour
Jethro Tull Rock Island tour
James L Knight center in Miami 30 years ago
My ears are still ringing
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on Monday, September 16, 2024 – 04:16 pm
Bachman Turner Overdrive
Bachman Turner Overdrive warming up for Van Hagar 1988?
New Haven Coliseum (R.I.P)
They were so loud we left are seats for the hallway and it was still too loud
Van Halen's volume was fine
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on Monday, September 16, 2024 – 04:24 pm
Husker Du in a little
Husker Du in a little concrete box next to Scott Stadium in Charlottesville.
Close 2nd to Dinosaur Jr. at the Showbox Marketplace in Seattle.
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on Monday, September 16, 2024 – 04:31 pm
1. Pantera / White Zombie at
1. Pantera / White Zombie at the Pioneer Events Center in Reno
2. Sevendust & Sepultura at the old Huntridge Theater in Vegas
3. every Type O Negative concert I ever went to. always reliably blistering
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on Monday, September 16, 2024 – 05:00 pm
>>Bachman Turner Overdrive
>>Bachman Turner Overdrive warming up for Van Hagar 1988?
I saw this tour in Sept 1986. I thought BTO was an odd choice, but it was ok.
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on Monday, September 16, 2024 – 08:03 pm
melvins is also up at the top
melvins is also up at the top of my list of loudest shows, jay. melvins, and a show from el-p's final tour before forming run the jewels. both shows made my ears ring for several hours afterward, and are the only 2 shows ive ever been to that genuinely had me worried about long term hearing damage, although as far as i can tell i dont have any lasting effects. luckily it seems like these days, most shows are played at a pretty reasonable volume that isnt to high or to quiet. IME its very rare for me to be dissatisfied with the volume a show is played at in either direction, unless the crowd is super chatty/drunk and more volume would be required to drown them out, but imo thats more of a people problem than a volume problem. personally i dont really understand why live music would need to be played at ear ringing volume. these shows did not provide more intense music or a more noticeable sensory experience, it was just loud af.
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on Tuesday, September 17, 2024 – 12:45 pm
Philadelphia Inquirer,
Philadelphia Inquirer, November 20, 1990 20 ARRESTED IN POST-CONCERT MELEE
The place was packed and the mood was surly. Especially after lead singer Perry Farrell began baiting the 3,000 people who jammed the Tower Theater to hear his innovative rock band, Jane's Addiction. So when the group abruptly walked off the stage last night after 51 minutes of music, things got nasty. Irate concert-goers moved outside the Upper Darby theater about 10:30 p.m., yelling, throwing bottles, blocking traffic and refusing to move. The street filled, tensions swelled. Suddenly, the police detailed to work the concert knew they had a bad situation on their hands.
Jane's Addiction, a group that fuels innovative lyrics with hard-rock octane, has been a hot commodity on the concert tour this year - especially amid rumors that the band may break up once the tour is done. The Tower show was an immediate sellout. Lead singer Farrell is not one to shy from controversy. And he was in true form last night, according to those on hand. "He was complaining about the crowd from the stage," said one concert- goer. "He was saying things like it was made up of young, disaffected suburban kids." When the band made its abrupt departure, the audience became hostile.
Philadelphia Daily News JANE'S ADDICTION A BAD TRIP FOR FANS, PROMOTERS
Concert-goers agitated over Jane's Addiction's unsatisfyingly short, and sometimes obnoxious, Tower Theater performance Monday night can take some revenge. Show attendees were so ticked off at the psychedelic metal posers' curtailed 51-minute performance on Monday that they blocked traffic, then rocked the group's tour bus and pelted it with bottles and stones outside the Tower at 69th and Ludlow streets. Many epithets also were chanted, including the group's name minus the last syllable.
Farrell, who has been threatening to leave the group because the music is no longer "spontaneous," took a fast dislike to the makeup of the Tower audience and their unwillingness to storm the stage. Actually, Tower guards prevent fans from congregating in front of the stage. After the first song, Farrell started baiting the crowd, declaring "This is bull - - - -." He was also heard to proclaim "I don't owe you anything," and "you're all white . . . you can't dance" and "I bet you think this is loud." They hadn't performed their most popular songs, "Jane Says," "Stop" and their current MTV breakout track, "Been Caught Stealing." The last song can be blamed for bringing out some of those well- scrubbed suburban youth that so ticked off Farrell - as well as the group's old original hardcore and speed-metal devotees.
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on Tuesday, September 17, 2024 – 12:59 pm
JANE'S A DICK!
>>>Many epithets also were chanted, including the group's name minus the last syllable. <<<
haha they treat him like a rag doll
JANE'S A DICK!
JANE'S A DICK!
JANE'S A DICK!
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on Sunday, September 22, 2024 – 05:36 pm
1 to many pre show bottles of
1 to many pre show bottles of wine.