Musk is Trump's Goebbels

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and hes gonna be prolific - 

buckle up kiddies, have your facts straight when you are combating the fire hose of misinformation coming at you...i already had to explain to three people how the hydrants didn't actually run out - they ran out of pressure....

I take a little powder
Take a little salt
Put it in my shotgun
And I go walkin' out...

 

No salt though.

Musk eats Trumps Gerbils? 

Musk is what the MAGA nutjob's accuse Sorros of being. 

well, its a little more than that ^^

he owns the means to spread the disinformation...and controls the means to combat rebuttal 

Ministry for Public Enlightenment and Propaganda , modern day version is now X

Scott Galloway talking to Anderson Cooper about Musk, money, pay to play. I"m sorry I couldn't retrieve it from CNN, just Ig

https://www.instagram.com/p/DEpd5Tlp5F7/

speaking of misinformation ...Pizza gate gunman shot dead by police over the weekend? Let the conspiracies fly!

https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/09/politics/pizzagate-gunman-killed-police-s...

I've had front row seats watching super high functioning people devolve into meth psychosis and the dude is checking all the boxes. He ain't snorting K anymore.

>>>Pizza gate gunman shot dead by police over the weekend?

You hate to see it.

As previously shared I have had pizza and pints at Comet a couple times before I left DC.  It's in the same building as Politics and Prose bookstore.

Comet Pizza does not have a basement.

 

Trump is Musk's Bitch - fixed it for you.

What Ken said.

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Jesus Christ, here we go. 

Annnnd, nobody's hand was on a bible

aig - you beat me to it. I was busy throwing up after reading that and didn't get a chance to post link.  agreed.

Long post here, but this is an educated take on Musk from one who knows him well. I believe this came out today, I'm sure the the MAGA propaganda/misinformation machine is working overtime right now to deflect and attack.

Philip Low - Founder, Chairman, and CEO of NeuroVigil

"I have known Elon Musk at a deep level for 14 years, well before he was a household name. We used to text frequently. He would come to my birthday party and invite me to his parties. He would tell me everything about his women problems. As sons of highly accomplished men who married venuses, were violent and lost their fortunes, and who were bullied in high school, we had a number of things in common most people cannot relate to. We would hang out together late in Los Angeles. He would visit my San Diego lab. He invested in my company.

Elon is not a Nazi, per se.

He is something much better, or much worse, depending on how you look at it.

Nazis believed that an entire race was above everyone else.

Elon believes he is above everyone else. He used to think he worked on the most important problems. When I met him, he did not presume to be a technical person — he would be the first to say that he lacked the expertise to understand certain data. That happened later. Now, he acts as if he has all the solutions.

All his talk about getting to Mars to “maintain the light of consciousness” or about “free speech absolutism” is actually BS Elon knowingly feeds people to manipulate them. Everything Elon does is about acquiring and consolidating power. That is why he likes far right parties, because they are easier to control. That is also why he gave himself $56 Billion which could have gone to the people actually doing the work and innovations he is taking credit for at Tesla (the reason he does not do patents is because he would not be listed as an inventor as putting a fake inventor on a patent would kill it and moreover it would reveal the superstars behind the work). His lust for power is also why he did xAI and Neuralink, to attempt to compete with OpenAI and NeuroVigil, respectively, despite being affiliated with them. Unlike Tesla and Twitter, he was unable to conquer those companies and tried to create rivals. I fired him with cause in December 2021 when he tried to undermine NV.

Elon did two Nazi salutes.

He did them for five main reasons:

1. He was concerned that the “Nazi wing” of the MAGA movement, under the influence of Steve Bannon, would drive him away from Trump, somewhere in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building, rather than in the West Wing which is where he wants to be. He was already feeling raw over the fact that Trump did not follow his recommendation for Treasury Secretary and that the Senate also did not pick his first choice;

2. He was upset that he had had to go to Israel and Auschwitz to make up for agreeing with a Nazi sympathizer online and wanted to reclaim his “power” just like when he told advertisers to “go fuck yourself”. This has nothing to do with Asperger’s;

3. There are some Jews he actually hates: Sam Altman is amongst them;

4. He enjoys a good thrill and knew exactly what he was doing;

5. His narcissistic self was hoping the audience would reflect his abject gesture back to him, thereby showing complete control and dominion over it, and increasing his leverage over Trump. That did not happen.

Bottom line: Elon is not a Nazi but he did give two Nazi Salutes, which is completely unacceptable.

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N.B. For the few whining about my post “sans connaissance the cause” and either trembling about my having shattered their illusions about their cult leader or thinking I am defending Elon:

I. My point is that he is transactional rather than ideological;

II. That being said, I am not defending him or his actions, just explaining them and confirming that he did, in fact, do two Nazi Salutes if anyone had doubts or believed the doctored footage of Taylor Swift doing the same thing to normalize what Elon did;

III. At some point, it matters to few people if one is a Nazi or if one acts like one. My father was a Holocaust Survivor. 32 out of 35 of his family members were murdered by Nazis. My mother’s grandparents were murdered in Auschwitz;

IV. After Elon tried to manipulate NV’s stock in 2021, I fired him with cause, and he was unable to exercise his stock options. In the aftermath of the Nazi Salutes, I told both him and his wealth manager to fuck off. Any remaining friendship between us ended with the Nazi Salutes. He is blocked on my end and I am pretty sure I am blocked on his;

V. I did not share what he told me in confidence. I just happen to know him extremely well, the person, the aspirations and the Musk Mask;

VI. I know who I am, have no desire to be famous and give exceedingly few media interviews. I prefer to work in obscurity and let the work speak for itself. I am certainly not envious and would definitely not want Elon’s life, including living in a bubble and having to make one outlandish claim after another and manipulate the public, elections and governments to shore up my stock and prevent the bubble from bursting. Unlike Elon, I am an actual scientist and inventor and I am not pretending to be someone I am not, like a fellow who got his BA in Econ at 26 all of a sudden pretending to be an expert in mechanical engineering, chemistry, rocket science, neuroscience and AI and keeping the people actually doing the work hidden and paying people to play online games in his name to appear smart and feed his so-called “Supergenius” Personality Cult — the “Imperator” has no clothes, and he knows it. I am just very disappointed in what happened to someone I had a lot of deep admiration for and the first person to find out about my concerns about his behavior was always him;

VII. He is the one who betrayed a number of his friends, including Sergey, and, given his actions, many other people who believed him and believed in him. I have no sympathy for this behavior, and at some point, after having repeatedly confronted it in private, I believe the ethical thing to do is to speak out, forcefully and unapologetically, whatever the risks may be, so as to not be part of the timid flock remaining silent while evil is being done, including propping up far right governments around the world in part to deregulate his companies and become the first trillionaire and otherwise to “rule the planet” — he knows Mars won’t be terraformed in his lifetime and he really wants his planet. No joke… Ethics matter. People matter. The truth matters.

I took down Descartes (through the Cambridge Declaration on Consciousness) and I am definitely not afraid of a so-called inventor whose greatest invention is his image.

I will not be silent. You should not be either. I am a sovereign individual, and so are you. I stood up to bullies, and am stepping out of the dark to do it again.

Stop working for him and being exploited by him. Sell your Tesla and dump your Tesla stock. Nikola Tesla was a great, creative and courageous man who led with ethics and by example and he would not have wanted for his good name to have been used by him and would agree with my principled stance. Sign off of “X” which is boosting far right propaganda, and of your Starlink as well. He is a complete cunt who doesn’t give a shit about you — only about power. Just ask Reid Hoffman. He only wants to control, dominate and use you — don’t let him and cut him and his businesses out of your and your loved ones’ lives entirely. Remember he is a total miserable self-loathing poser, and unless you happen to be one too, he will be much more afraid of you than you should ever be of him.

He will probably come after me, and I am completely fine with that. I am a self-made multibillionaire with an armada of lawyers — literally — and most importantly, I know who I am and who I stand for, the people and their freedoms, whatever happens. He can send his dumb Proud Boys and Oath Keepers after me and they will be butchered on sight. Either way, I would rather die with honor than live as a coward".

“Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” — Elie Wiesel, Holocaust Survivor and Nobel Peace Prize laureate

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Pennsylvania official resigns after mimicking Musk’s inauguration ‘salute’ in TikTok video

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/pennsylvania-official-resigns-after-mi...

 

Thanks Lance.  Interesting read

>>> "He can send his dumb Proud Boys and Oath Keepers after me and they will be butchered on sight. Either way, I would rather die with honor than live as a coward".

Local weekly here published the names of the four J6 convictees pardoned who live in this area.

That's just too bad.

> "I took down Descartes (through the Cambridge Declaration on Consciousness)"

This is a great line in an interesting read, and a splendid portal to a fascinating rabbit hole.

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Just heard from someone who works for at a defense contractor and the DOGE guy is in their office and has asked everyone what sex they were at birth and what sex they are now. Then he just sits there all day. They aren't sure if he is supposed to make sure that they don't transition at work. 

Dr. Evil, Mini Me, and the Oompa Loompa.

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I have come to the realization that he is Elon Scissorhands. 
Creepy dude.  

Musk made it acceptable so now Steve Bannon also uses the Nazi salute. Wake up Amerika, this is way easier to fix than global warming. Peace out.

The picture of Bannon giving the Nazi salute at CPAC was a top story on MSNBC last night and they still have a picture this morning, but smaller and lower in the feed. I don't see it on other news outlets.  I thought this would be huge news, WTF. Trump's inner circle people (Musk and Bannon) addressing crowds with the Nazi salute and news agencies aren't even carrying the story. This is really F'd up. 

Years of normalizing behaviors has led to complacency and blind acceptance. No one even cares anymore 

> Musk made it acceptable so now Steve Bannon also uses the Nazi salute.

This is kind of interesting because on the other (raised) hand, Bannon seems to have it in for Musk.

Bannon Calls Musk a ‘Parasitic Illegal Immigrant’

Stephen Bannon, a top adviser during President Trump’s first term and a popular figure among his supporters, said Elon Musk wants to “play-act as God” as part of his push to overhaul the federal government.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/18/us/politics/steve-bannon-elon-musk-fe...

I've had front row seats watching super high functioning people devolve into meth psychosis and the dude is checking all the boxes. He ain't snorting K anymore.

this comment lightly touches on one of my major pet peeves over the way the left discusses elon musk - for some reason feeling the need to label him as a "ketamine addict" and constantly attribute aany strange behavior to ketamine abuse or intoxication.

AFAIK, when musk has mentioned using ketamine, it is in the context of ketamine therapy, prescribed and administered by a doctor. lots of folks all over the world have received great benefit from ketamine therapy without becoming addicted or exhibiting strange behavior.

for many on the left, and im sure many folks here, drug policy reform and psychedelic therapy are political issues that have been very important to us - its very sad for me to see folks on the left falling into these kinds of blatently false anti-drug talking points just to make fun of a guy who constantly offers up new, not blatantly false reasons to make fun of him nearly every day.

debunking the claim that musk is some kind of ketamine addict isnt a defense of musk, its a defense of ketamine.

Who is more powerful, the POTUS or the wealthiest person on earth?

It'll be interesting when those two assholes stop the charade of unity and decide it's time to answer that question. Trump sure as hell doesn't want to be seen as "second," nor does Musk. I don't think either of them know how to share. How long until they part ways and go to war?

And speaking of power, hasn't it been said that those in power strive to keep it? For some reason the Reps in Congress have decided their power comes from Trump, and not their power of checks and balances. They are willingly giving up that power, and it isn't going to be easy to regain it when there's a Dem POTUS or a useless Rep. I'm guessing that by 2026 more and more Republicans are going to be willing to challenge Orange God and try to regain some power before he's gone.

>  the Reps in Congress have decided their power comes from Trump, and not their power of checks and balances. They are willingly giving up that power

They're afraid they won't be re-elected if they stand up to Trump; e.g. Liz Cheney. He's gotten in their heads.

Agreed, Mike. That's why I think it may flip a bit in 2026, when Trump is on his way out.

And there will be voter pushback if the economy sours. The MAGA-fucks are going to feel it bad, and they're going to demand their elected reps do something about it. When policies effect "those people over there," voters don't care, but if his policies kick them in the gut, they sure as hell will care. If those reps want to keep their power, they have to give their allegiance back to the voters.

"back to the voters"  Are you kidding me? They have no allegiance to the voters. Never have. They work for the corps.

I have to believe free and fair elections will continue in 2026 or my brain will explode. But I've been wrong many times in my life. 

I also believe that in trump's brain he believes that he will be POTUS until he decides to give it up. 

I don't have any beliefs about 2028, it is just too far away and history shows that pretty much anything is possible.

I wouldn't be surprised if after a terror attack or some other catalyst that he declares martial law in an attempt to avoid further election or the possibility of disrupting his control