Why No Comments on the Events in London Today?

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Perused the thread titles and i may have missed it, but i see nothing. no opinions? no opinions on the maryland school rape story? is trump the only thing occupying people's minds? the only reason i know was because i got off work at noon and it's been all over the radio and tv in the stores i've gone into that has tv's playing.

Hillman, I count on the Zone to give me the news; could you share the news? I've been traveling all day and not looking at news.

Here's Donald Jr. criticizing and mis-characterizing the Mayor of London today for an article in September of last year. Trump Jr's an insensitive dolt, isn't he.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/22/us/politics/donald-trump-jr-criticize...

Terrorism Fatigue

Had it happened in the US an AR-15 would have been involved and dozens more would be dead.

just the first link that popped judit:

 

'SICK AND DEPRAVED' 

London terror attack victim named as Westminster officer PC Keith Palmer – as Theresa May condemns attack on Parliament that killed five

Suspect shot by cops after leaving at least 40 injured, many 'catastrophically'

 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3151786/london-terror-attack-parliament-ca...

The Maryland High School rape case from CNN & RT since they're respected outlets here:

 

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/21/us/maryland-undocumented-student-rape/inde...

News that one of the two Maryland high school students accused of raping a schoolmate was allegedly in the country unlawfully has caught the attention of the White House.

The student, 18-year-old Henry Sanchez-Milian, was arrested Thursday at Rockville High School in Rockville, Maryland, along with 17-year-old classmate Jose Montano. Both students are being charged as adults with first-degree rape and two counts each of committing a first-degree sexual offense, Montgomery County Police said.

Following Sanchez-Milian's arrest, ICE issued an immigration detainer, an order to local law enforcement to hold a suspect for a pending immigration review.

 

 

https://www.rt.com/usa/381695-rockville-rape-illegal-immigration-sanctuary/

The reported rape of a high school freshman by two classmates in Rockville, Maryland, has become part of the national conversation on immigration after the two boys charged with the crime were found to be in the US illegally.

Police charged 17-year-old Jose Montano and 18-year-old Henry Sanchez with first degree rape and two counts of first degree sexual offenses after they said the two freshmen raped a 14-year-old classmate in the men’s room at Rockville High School during school hours last Thursday. Both are being charged as adults and are being held without bond.

Prosecutors say 18yo rape suspect Henry Sanchez already had a pending "alien removal case." He entered U.S. from Guatemala 7 months ago. pic.twitter.com/9Swce4DTbj

— Kevin Lewis (@ABC7Kevin) March 17, 2017

Absolutely horrible!

That being said...

>> Had it happened in the US an AR-15 would have been involved and dozens more would be dead.

^^^ THIS

Fuck the NRA!

 

There've been so many girls that I've known
I've made so many cry and still I wonder why
Here comes the little girl
I see her walking down the street
She's all by herself
I try and knock her off her feet
But, she'll never break, never break, never break, never break
This heart of stone
Oh, no, no, this heart of stone
What's different about her? I don't really know
No matter how I try I just can't make her cry
Cause she'll never break, never break, never break, never break
This heart of stone
Oh, no, no, no, this heart of stone
Don't keep on looking that some old way
If you try acting sad, you'll only make me glad
Better listen little girl
You go on walking down the street
I ain't got no love, I ain't the kind to meet
'Cause you'll never break, never break, never break, never break
This heart of stone
Oh, no, no, you'll never break this heart of stone darlin
No, no, this heart of stone
You'll never break it darlin
You won't break this heart of stone
Oh no no no
You better go
You better go home
Cause you'll, you'll never break this heart of stone

 

 

>> Had it happened in the US an AR-15 would have been involved and dozens more would be dead.

yeah except if didn't.

seems like cars/vehicles are being used more than guns. it was in Brussels on this day last year when another vehicle was used to kill 30+ people. guess we'll have to have some org pop up to propose outlawing cars/buses/trucks.

damn, slack, never really paid close attention to those lyrics. kind of chilling ain't they?

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So your point is that these are people of color? There are many incidents of these types, horrible things, that are perpetrated by "white" guys. What is worse about these? And Hoover's correct, a gun instead of a knife could have been so much more deadly.

who are people of color? the ones that were killed? i didn't say a damn word about the perpetrator, that's up for the reader/viewer to make a decision about. i suppose using a vehicle to kill/injure 40 or so people is preferable to a gun. but you have to take Brussels into account on this very day last year where a vehicle was used and the count was over 30. What's acceptable for a vehicle & what's acceptable for a gun/knife? weren't 60+ people in China killed by knife in an attack?

i gotta say i love slack's posts. he doesn't really say very much but most of the pics he posts gets his message across.

Tucker thinks it's the beggining of an offensive. 

On another note...

White supremacist charged with murder after traveling to NYC to kill a black man

The wave of hate crimes following Donald Trump’s election continues. James Harris Jackson, a white supremacist with connections to a documented hate group in Maryland, has been arrested and charged with second degree murder in the stabbing death of Timothy Caughman, a black man, in New York City. According to NBC 4 New York, authorities want to upgrade the charges against Jackson to a hate crime and first-degree murder, with police saying that Jackson traveled from Baltimore to New York to specifically attack black men:

"He knew what he was doing when he was coming up here," [NYPD's Chief of Detectives for Manhattan William] Aubrey said.

"We’re very fortunate it started at one and wasn’t more. His intention was to come here and harm male blacks."

Aubrey said Jackson's recent actions and information from interviews led police to believe the crime was "clearly racially motivated." NYPD Commissioner James O'Neill called the killing "extremely distressing."

http://m.dailykos.com/story/2017/3/22/1646188/-White-supremacist-charged...

 

Instead of calling it a Homegrown Terror Attack we call it a "Hate Crime"...

Terrorism is terrorism. It knows no nationality and knows no color.

kos - figures. one murder to deflect from multiple murders because of JIHAD & sexual crimes committed by at least one confirmed illegal immigrant. move along, nothing to see here

>>>>Tucker thinks it's the beggining of an offensive.

what offensive and who is tucker?

Hillman, I brought up people of color because the alleged perps in the 2 cases you brought to light are people of color. I don't remember your posting about the rape case of the Stanford swimmer, or massacres by white guys. Every single incident of these types is fucked. I admit that I don't remember everything, so you may have posted about them.

Tucker was once a young Bob Novak. 

i haven't heard anything about a Stanford swimmer or any news about massacres by white guys. like i said, the only reason i heard about this was i got off work at noon and it was on tv/radio everywhere i went.

Daily Kos one of many both on the Right and Left reporting it...

NY Post

Washington Post

NY Daily News

UK Daily Mail

To name just a few.

 

 

Seems the actions of a lone nutcase are way too quickly called Terrorism these days, or maybe they know more than they are letting on?  Or because the suspect looks Muslim, it's the anniversary of the Belgium attack, & ISIS sympathizers are celebrating?

MK ultra psy op...

>>>>seems like cars/vehicles are being used more than guns. 

 

Yeah, in countries where it's harder to get a gun than it is here.

so what conclusion can you draw from that? cars/vehicles are killing/injuring just as many people as guns when it comes to mass murder/jihad. stricter regs on who can & who can't have a vehicle? 

Really?

Spoken like an NRA twit.

oh fuck yourself, i have nothing to do with the nra, don't belong, don't read their propaganda, and i don't even think about them unless someone brings them up here.

Four people were killed in Wisconsin today and we don't have a thread for that shooting either. I haven't seen any reports about the ethnicity of the shooter yet.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/22/us/wisconsin-four-killed/

>>>  so what conclusion can you draw from that? cars/vehicles are killing/injuring just as many people as guns when it comes to mass murder/jihad. stricter regs on who can & who can't have a vehicle? 

 

 

Obviously we should ban all darkies from driving.

 

 

I mean, WTF, Hill?

 

 

Dylan Roof shoot up a black church and - oh well, crazy people deserve guns too.

 

And now we are supposed to panic because some idiot asshole wannabejihadist kills a few people with a car and a knife?

 

 

 

 

 i have nothing to do with the nra, don't belong, don't read their propaganda, and i don't even think about them unless someone brings them up here.<<

 

Didn't say you did.

 

You still sound like one.

 

And GFY, Cracker.

Jihadists killed 94 people inside the United States between 2005 and 2015. During that same time period, 301,797 people in the US were shot dead.

https://qz.com/898207/the-psychology-of-why-americans-are-more-scared-of...

The sticky about Trump/politics threads is gone. Good work, Hill. 

What's on Fox News right now, Slacker?

Why should there be comments about the same old thing?

Crazy nobodies desperately trying to be somebody.

Even for just a moment.

So sad.

So meaningless.

What's to comment?

There's no black people in Baltimore?

"Had it happened in the US an AR-15 would have been involved and dozens more would be dead."

Ah, it has happened in the U.S. and no rifle was involved.

"Suspect Identified in Ohio State Attack as Abdul Razak Ali Artan"

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/suspect-dead-after-ohio-state-univer...

Try to keep up.

Are you saying white people are better at this, Thom? 

Yeah Thom.  Nobody has ever used an AR-15 to kill a bunch of people in the US. 

 

We should start referring to our resident research librarian as Uncle Thom for his subservience to the party line.

There was another attempted car attack in Antwerp today, but folks were able to jump out of the way and nobody got hurt:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe-security-belgium-idUSKBN16U1RI

These vehicle attacks are a scary new twist.  The attack last year in Nice with the stolen truck killed far more people than any mass shooting in modern American history.  Shows the kind of carnage a determined person can cause, even without ready access to firearms or explosives.

So i read most of this thread and Im confused.   I''d like to ask Hillman what your intent was in the OP.  I know you are smart, can you dumb it down for us regular uninformed people? What is your point? Thx

Hillman thinks the left is afraid to call Muslims terrorists as much as he's afraid to admit that gun violence is the number one health crisis facing the United States of America.

 

The facts are that there are lots of Muslim terrorists, how ever they don't have the market on terrorism cornered.  Guns do have the market on suicides and mass killings in the US cornered though.

Q: What kills 30,000 times more people than Muslims in America?

A: Guns.

Yes, I heard about London.  Your rape case in Maryland hasn't been part of any discussion on immigration that I've heard.  Not sure who considers rt a reputable outlet but not me.  I am sure it has been covered by my regular outlets (Tampa Times, CNN, NBC News, Fox News, Fox Radio News Network, Al-Jazeera, BBC, NPR, Sacbee) but it is definitely not the main news item of the day in these parts.  What is news is how the Trump government is publishing a nazi retro publication listing crimes by immigrants, exactly as the nazis did regarding crimes by jews.  

 

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In other news, white guy travels to New York looking for random black man to kill.  There were also a couple murders locally, no word on identity or motive but it is believed that the that the suspects will be white, black, hispanic, middle eastern, or asian.  

Your math is off by a decimal point, Hoover. Guns kill about 3,000 times more people in the US than jihadists

Are you including suicides?

>>>>gun violence is the number one health crisis facing the United States of America.

While its true that day to day murders and suicides get little press when compared to the much more rare attacks by scary Muslim radicals, gun violence is far from being the number one health crises in America.

Here is the leading causes of death as reported by the CDC:

* Heart disease: 614,348
• Cancer: 591,699
• Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 147,101
• Accidents (unintentional injuries): 136,053
• Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 133,103
• Alzheimer's disease: 93,541
• Diabetes: 76,488
• Influenza and pneumonia: 55,227
• Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 48,146
• Intentional self-harm (suicide): 42,773

And just as a side, the worst cases of mass murder in American history have been perpetrated by: (1) hijacked airplanes (9/11), (2) truck bomb (OK City), and (3) arson (1990 Happy Land fire).  

> Are you including suicides?

Using the figures from 2005-2015 from the link I posted above, 301,797 / 94 = 3,211.

I guess I could cherry pick a year when Jihadist only killed one or two people.

 

Either way.  3,000 times more likely is signifigant too, and you can't cherry pick a year with more deaths by Jihadist than guns.

I was taking my kids to the park this past Saturday and pulled up behind a Harley at a red light. The motorcycle had a small orange swastika sticker on either side of the license plate.

I kept looking at them thinking I must be mis-seeing some other symbol or was missing the joke. Nope, just a straight up Neo-nazi. That was way more terrorizing to me than someone killing a few people in another state or country. I couldn't get it out of my head.

>>>> I''d like to ask Hillman what your intent was in the OP.

just wanted to know why no one said anything about it.

 

>>>>Hillman thinks the left is afraid to call Muslims terrorists as much as he's afraid to admit that gun violence is the number one health crisis facing the United States of America.

since you've been proven wrong about the number one health crisis facing the united states, let me tell you the first part of your sentence is wrong as well. i never said a damn word about "leftists" or muslims. i did mention jihad as that is the reason for attacks by radical muslims. or are you going to deny that too?

 

and no one said we need to "panic because some idiot asshole wannabejihadist kills a few people with a car and a knife."

 

but no, let's be single minded and have no opinions on anything other than

 

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but no, let's be single minded and have no opinions on anything other than

 

TRUMP<<<<

 

Pretty sure you're the only person in this thread to bring him up.

Ha ha full melt by hillman.  A lot of offhanded racist comments too. 

>>>> I''d like to ask Hillman what your intent was in the OP.

>>>> "just wanted to know why no one said anything about it.

Sorry Hillman but that sounds like a cop out.  I believe you had an ulterior motive.  "see you hippies, guns aren't that bad" or "why are you focusing on trump" or "guess everyone here only reads USA TODAY"  or "I love Che"  or "democrats are dummies".   But your OP is not just a neutral thought.   

> 3,000 times more likely is signifigant too

It's hugely significant, and, it's like our old friend Pogo the possum once said:

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I talked to my boss at The London today. Our offices are about 200 yards from Winchester Bridge. He's pretty young, about 35. He was mildly phased, but very pragmatic about it. Not that any loss of life is acceptable, but this was no Nice, Brussels, or the Towers.