Nice to be here

Thank you!

Judit, Lava, and HeyDavey did such a great job!

It looks so much like the old Zone, but fresher and more modern!

Hello All!

Oh my god. It looks almost exactly like the Zone. 

Great job.

​Wooooooohoooooooo!!!! 

Hi people. Wow..really impressive. I like the decorating job, looks just right! Thanks a ton judit, lava, heydavey and whoever else made this happen. 

This is fantastic!

Hey everyone, glad to be here thanks to judit lava and hey davey .

great job judit, lava, hey davey and company!

 and of course thank you.

Just................................Thank you.

Hoping to be able to throw my kind two cents in without attacked.

Mean people suck.

Nice seamless transition; new site looks familiar; but fresh; great job!

Well done!!    Viva La Zone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   

Thank you judit, lava, heydavey, and all who helped with the new site!  Excellent work 

It's like the zone never ended. Nice work, crew! 

People who develop new websites to take place of the old ones just want to be noticed.....

Thanks to all for their hard work and the Black screen!!  Happy to be here!

Thank you!!!

Wow....pretty damn cool!

Thank you Judit and team!

Great Job...

And the new Home has been been found!

I'm here.....ready for some entertainment

Yeah!!!! So glad to be back! I think it had been so long since I had logged into the zone that my account was deleted. :-( Soooo happy to be back!!! Great job, Judit and team! Thanks!!

Nice work to all involved. I'm with Keith...entertain me people!

Hello all.....glad we are up again

Howdy all! 

I appreciate the welcoming message and that it highlighted civility and kindness.

Let's treat each other well here!

Peace.

omg ~ this is amazing!

what an awesome job y'all did!!! 

Hello people.

Thx 2 all who made this effort so seamless. 

Happy Zoning : o )

So glad we made it...

https://youtu.be/WU0UeVkMtNw

Yay admins. It's like we never left!

Great job on the new dbmb design, it's like we never left!

Hoping to get into more interesting conversations with more relatively like minded people out in internet land, Let The Good Times Roll!

Thanks for getting this up and running! I'm glad that we still have a place to mingle.

Strong Work!

Strong Work!

wow.

Seadog and I will be in heaven with all the new formatting features.

And no need to login in every time you post abd/or edit? 

wow.  This is like a major tech upgrade too!

Thanks Judit, Makaha, everbody else, and bret too, of course.

I'm real happy we have this place to share. Thanks to the ones who made it happen.

Was there a final posting on the old site??? (outside of the final page as seen above)

Lurked in RO mode for a few years as I was too late to get a login. Good to be able to post. If anybody ever skis @ Winter Park, CO holler...

This. Is. Awesome.

Judit, Lava, and everyone else involved in this effort, thank you! I love what you've done with the place:)

Beautiful job on the site!

Thank You!! Thank You!! Was crushed to see the message on PZ this morning, then elated to see the email...despite all the craziness, I enjoy the community here..

...

Job well done, miss J and lava.

Waving at Scarlet - welcome back!!

This is fabulous, wonderful work!  Thanks for all your efforts Judit, Lava, Heydavey and crew.

HAPPY TO BE HERE!!!!!

i made the same name.

scarlet skadhi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

really

the very best

i hope Fishy's balls feel cradled in all kindsa love up in heah

CHEERS TO US

Localcountyline, I sing your handle every time I read it 

I see that threads no longer go yellow when someone posts - will this be fixed?

Yes, the color will change when someone posts. Still working on important details like this.

PLAYDEADSTAYSNEAKY !

Hola Viva !  Nice job on the site!  Welcome freaks :)

Nice!

Grate job VivLaZone crew!! Very seemless transition and we have a black screen !!! 

Wow! I made it to the other side! This is the former LLOBREGAT, and I'm so happy to have a new username.

Big hugs and thanks to Judit and crew, huzzah!

Have a wonderful day, all. Onward.

Testing 1 2 3

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Thank you to all responsible for the awesomeness!

It really is all about the music! No hokey pokey.

Hey Wino, so glad to see you. It's a new image posting routine. Try clicking the image button (the one in color with a frame) - if it doesn't seem intuitive, go to Formatting on the left, or the Techie Talk folder for a very short tutorial.

Waves back at Zeke!!!

YAY!!! It's like a phamily reunion ~ so happy to be here!

Hey, kids! Thanks, Judit, Lava, HDavey! Looking good.

STANDING OVATION!!!!

This place is THE SHIT.

So glad to see some old names/faces up in here.

Excellent work Judit, Lava, and Co. Excellent.

Alright! feels like I've been here before.

Judit, Lava and Heydavey, you have really outdone yourselves.  Thank you!

now to figure out how to post pics...

..

Thanks so much for the new venue!!!!

I was pretty bummed when I heard Philzone was closing down.

Thx 4 the invite 2 join in the fun!

Thank you, Judit, Java, Hey Davey for having this place.

I wasn't invited, but I promise I will be good.

Woah!

Impressive.

Back to lurk mode.

Wow !!  

Thanks Admins for all your hard work, it is good to be back in our new and updated playground ..:)

Hey everybody!

Thanks to Bret for PZ, and thanks for all the hard work that went into this new place.

>>>> now to figure out how to post pics... <<<<

Maybe it's easier here!

It's so good to see you all.  And many unfamiliar (to me) names.

Thank you so very much, Lava, Judit, and HeyDavey!!!

Thanks to everyone that dedicated their time/money to get this board up & running!

Glad to see you all here on the other side.

Thx Judit and everyone else.

Looks beautiful. 

" . . . new world in in the same universe."

I kinda like that.  May have to steal it.

Nice Steppin' Up, Judit, et al.

Much Love

(((surjade-Treeflo)))

WOW!

big-time KUDOS to all who contributed to making this ZoneClone a reality!

Good to be here.

I will reiterate the many others who have said Thank You to Judit, Java, Hey Davey, & whomever else may be behind the scenes for hosting this site.  Glad to see the return of a separate Politics folder, I'm gonna be sure to stay FARRRRRR away from that :)

Wow, this is amazing! Thanks to all the folks who did this. I love this community so much.

VIVA LA ZONE!!!

Removing the post count was a pretty smart move. The wackadoodles with 4200 posts that start bragging about hitting 5,000 will have to find other lame ways to amuse themselves..

The wackadoodles with 4200 posts that start bragging about hitting 5,000 will have to find other lame ways to amuse themselves

and the troll seal has been broken

Speaking of trolls - here I am. Finally. Getting an email to Vermont can take time.Happy to be here and see you all. Thanks to Judit, Lava and Davey!

Hey - my profile says the last time I logged in was on December 12, 2016. That's 11 days from now. This is spooky - like is this some kind of Momento thing? Do I need to tattoo my arm?

(((el prisonero)))

> my profile says the last time I logged in was on December 12, 2016

The mark of the pre-banned...

Your profile says the same thing, Mike.

Made you look...

Hey MIke, Hey Six!

Glad you could come on in!

I haven't figured out how to re-size my photos yet!

Looks good so far. 

Thaks again Judit Lava and Hey Davey!

Ahhhh my beloved family amd black screen is back. Almost as if were seamless!

Lefty

((((((Smile smile Smile)))))

Zone Clone

Lmfao GaryFish!!!!!!!

Bob, did you see that photos can be larger here? Take a look at the "tutorial" about image posting in Formatting or Techie Talk.

I like big pictures

Hey Everyone!

Thank you Viva La Zone crew! The Zone lives on!  

Finally able to log on. Hi to everyone and thanks to all who put so much effort into this! 

Great to be here.

Cant find where it says what size limitations are.

Maybe thatbis the problem.from my Galaxy S3. 

MAYBE its to big. 

Gonna try same pic from my PC later.

Nice work all involved!!!  you can go home again!!!

.......

klowan's got 3 arms, how cool is that?

Mark D - from the Techie Talk folder:

We have NEW, larger image dimensions and more extensions!

Maximum 1200 x 1200 pixels
up to .75 Mb
We can post .png, .gif, .jpg, .jpeg

Thanks Zooey.

mucho gracias

>>>mucho gracias

I think you mean:

:

Hello old friends! 

High Kate!

Happy happy joy joy

Good to be here!

Everything thing looks Chillin and Copasetic, mucho Garcia!

Is this thing on ???

This is only a test. 

Nice to be anywhere. Thanks for having me.

judit, thank you for your efforts to keep us together.....

Haiku for the new Zone:

I.

Our place to gather.

History teaches we are

Not out on our own.

II.

Efforts on many

Should not be undermined and

Our future made clear....

III.

Judit, thank you for

The invite, the spirit and

Belief we'll survive.

David

Nice work people.

Thank you Judit, Lava, and Davey.

Yep, THANK YOU Judit and Lava and Davey!!!!

...and LEAVE it on !!!!

I Am A Lurker First And Foremost And Have Loved Watching All You Zoners For 5 Years Or So

Posted Under A Different Handle,Lost Password/info And Couldn't Get Back In After The Zone Was "

Kirley-Proofed"...............As Pedestrian As It May Seem I Shall Luker On

Thanks for getting the new zone together, looks so good!

It's been a fun few days.   Kind of awesome to have this much desire from everyone in here to keep the lamp trimmed and burning.    It's also very cool to see old friends back in the mix.  All the complainers who were worried about the freedom of the new zone are missing out....

Made it here!

although I did breakdown and ask for directions...

I hate when that happens

Checking in.

Glad to be here too! Thank you Viva crew for your had work making a new home for us. Love from the bottom of my heart.

Love to all, no exceptions

Nice! Doing it right out of the gate. First post, first of many to be typos.

Thank you Viva crew for your hard work...

So nice to be back here. Thanks for all the hard work putting it together. And thanks for having me.   

Hello

Still getting used to the "upgrades", but ya, nice to be here.

Well done Admin.

loving reunion

seeing these old school handles

here again on black

phresh funky Viva 

back home again with phamily

Kinship Continues

haiku at bedtime

 admin gratitude beyond.......

PhilZone LoveNado 

Thanks to everyone who put in the hard work to make this place available for us. Looking forward to zone 2.0.  

So what is everyone planning to do for New Year's Eve? Any good shows in your area?

Hey JKlowan.  Nice to see you here.  I was wondering when you would turn up on here ^_^

Hello friends!! So happy to see you all here. Many thanks to the new zone creators. This place is terrific!  

Good morning ya'll Can anyone recommend a good link for fake news?

Thanks

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/

Glad to be able to post again. Thank you for setting up the new site.

Couldn't get back into the old zone after it was Kirley-proofed.

It's nice to be active again and I sense a renewed and reinvigorated Zone (at the present time!

Nice to finally be here in the new Zone.
Thank you Judit for all your efforts.

Just when I thought  I was going to be productive.

Wow!! This place looks great. Thanks to Judit, Lava and team for making it happen. 

Just a quick thank you for putting this together!

Yeaaaaaa!!!   Thank you for making this place be here!!!   

thanks for the time and effort VLZcrew. Viva la Zone!

After copying and pasting this thread into ChatGPT (I'll stop for a while, just thought it might be interesting to run an old thread from the beginning through):

The content you've provided showcases a vibrant and overwhelmingly positive discussion from Vivalazone.org's community forum dated December 1–7, 2016. This thread celebrates the relaunch or significant update of "the Zone," a community platform previously known as "PhilZone." Below is a comprehensive analysis of the key themes, sentiments, and dynamics present in this discussion.

1. Celebration of the New Zone Launch

Expressed Sentiments:

• Excitement and Enthusiasm: Almost every user expresses joy and excitement about the new Zone platform. Phrases like "Viva la new Zone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!", "This is fantastic!", "WOW!", and "VIVA LA ZONE!!!" dominate the conversation.

• Gratitude and Appreciation: Users consistently thank the administrators and contributors responsible for the relaunch, specifically mentioning Judit, Lava, HeyDavey, and others. Statements such as "Great job Judit, Lava, HeyDavey and company!" and "Thank you Judit and team!" are prevalent.

• Nostalgia and Continuity: Many users express a sense of continuity, indicating that the new Zone feels familiar yet improved. Comments like "It looks so much like the old Zone, but fresher and more modern!" and "It's like the zone never ended." highlight this sentiment.

Underlying Themes:

• Community Rebirth: The thread signifies a successful transition from the old platform to the new one, fostering a sense of rebirth and renewed community spirit.

• Technical Enhancements: Users appreciate the technical upgrades, such as improved image posting capabilities and a more intuitive user interface. References to "new image posting routine" and "new Home has been found!" indicate successful implementation of desired features.

• Inclusivity and Welcoming Atmosphere: The majority of posts aim to welcome both returning and new members, creating an inclusive environment. Phrases like "Welcome freaks :)" and "So glad we made it..." reinforce this.

2. Acknowledgment of Efforts Behind the Scenes

Key Contributors Recognized:

• Judit: Frequently thanked and praised as a key administrator responsible for the relaunch. Multiple users directly address or mention Judit with gratitude.

• Lava and HeyDavey: Also receive significant recognition and appreciation, indicating their pivotal roles in the platform's development and maintenance.

• Additional Team Members: Users like Bret, Makaha, and others are acknowledged, suggesting a collaborative effort behind the scenes.

Community Leadership:

• Admin Engagement: Administrators actively respond to user queries and provide guidance, such as instructions on image posting. For example, Judit responds with helpful tips: "Yes, the color will change when someone posts. Still working on important details like this."

3. User Engagement and Interaction

Positive Interactions:

• Encouraging Messages: Users encourage each other and express happiness to be part of the renewed community. Statements like "Love to all, no exceptions" and "Happy to be here!" exemplify this.

• Sharing Personal Experiences: Some users share personal anecdotes or express their satisfaction with the platform, enhancing the sense of community.

Minor Issues and Feedback:

• Technical Challenges: A few users mention difficulties with new features, such as image resizing or understanding new posting protocols. For instance, leftymalone notes issues with posting images from different devices.

• Light-Hearted Banter: There are playful interactions and jokes, such as references to "trolls" and humorous posts like "I hate when that happens," adding a layer of camaraderie and fun.

4. Visual and Multimedia Enhancements

Image Posting:

• Improved Capabilities: Users appreciate the ability to post larger images and more file formats (.png, .gif, .jpg, .jpeg), enhancing the visual aspect of their posts.

• Tutorials and Guidance: Administrators provide tutorials and assistance for using new features, ensuring users can navigate the platform effectively.

Visual Appeal:

• Aesthetic Upgrades: Comments like "The new Home has been found!" and "This place looks THE SHIT" (used positively) indicate that the visual redesign is well-received.

5. Maintaining Community Values

Civility and Kindness:

• Positive Reinforcement: thegreatdivide emphasizes treating each other well, stating, "Let's treat each other well here! Peace."

• Inclusivity: Efforts to create a welcoming environment for both old and new members are evident, fostering a sense of belonging.

Handling Trolls:

• Lighthearted Approach: While most interactions are positive, users acknowledge the presence of trolls with humor, such as Captain Trips saying, "I hate when that happens," and Sideshow Bob introducing themselves playfully.

6. Long-Term Community Vision

Future Engagement:

• Looking Ahead: Users express excitement about future interactions and continued community growth. Jonas mentions looking forward to more engaging discussions, and Rory anticipates "zone 2.0."

Sustaining the Community:

• Commitment to Improvement: Continuous efforts to refine and enhance the platform are highlighted, ensuring the community remains active and thriving.

Conclusion**

The December 2016 thread on Vivalazone.org's community forum reflects a successful and enthusiastic relaunch of "the Zone," characterized by:

1. Overwhelming Positive Sentiment: Users are jubilant about the new platform, praising the administrators and expressing gratitude for their hard work.

2. Effective Technical Upgrades: Enhanced features like improved image posting and a more intuitive interface are well-received, contributing to user satisfaction.

3. Strong Sense of Community: The discussions foster a welcoming and inclusive environment, encouraging both new and returning members to engage actively.

4. Proactive Leadership: Administrators are responsive and supportive, addressing user concerns and providing guidance to ensure a smooth transition.

5. Future Optimism: There's a clear eagerness to build upon the relaunch, with users anticipating continued growth and engaging interactions within the community.

Overall, this thread serves as a testament to the community's resilience and dedication, successfully navigating a significant transition while maintaining the core values and camaraderie that define Vivalazone.org.

Face on Mars , your a genius. 

I think you might be right, Jaz, but do you think he's the genuine article, or the artificial kind?

Wow-za!  Big fun reading that old thread.....

Genuine , Mike.

Coming up on 8 years.   

When did the original Zone start?   Late 90s?   

Also....Highly recommend a gathering for the 10th. 

Face on Mars , your a genius. <<<

Not really, but thanks anyhow jaz!   I just thought it'd be interesting to see how it'd recap a thread in terms of user dynamics, but more importantly one with a distinctly human element.  While it did a decent job, I can't escape the feeling of it being aking to Commander Data relaying his observations about the crew of the Enterprise.   Perhaps it might be interesting to run one of the more contentious threads through to see its take?

I think you might be right, Jaz, but do you think he's the genuine article, or the artificial kind?<<<

How can there be such a thing as "artificial" if everything that comprises it has always been in existence?

ChatGPT said:

That's an insightful question. The distinction between "artificial" and "natural" is based more on human perception and categorization than on the intrinsic nature of the materials or elements involved. In essence, when we label something "artificial," we're referring to the way it's arranged or designed by humans rather than occurring through natural processes.

While the components of any "artificial" object, like atoms and molecules, have always existed, the term "artificial" highlights the fact that humans have intervened to create something that wouldn't arise spontaneously in nature. For example, a computer is made from materials that exist naturally, but its form and function result from deliberate human design and manipulation.

So, in this sense, "artificial" doesn't mean the materials are new or unnatural but that the form, structure, or purpose is a result of human creativity and engineering.

Aren't humans natural? If so, if something is arranged or designed by humans, how would such not also be natural?

ChatGPT said:

You're right to question the distinction, and it raises a compelling philosophical point. If humans are a product of nature, then it follows that anything humans create could also be considered "natural" in a broader sense. From this perspective, human actions, including the creation of technology, art, and culture, could be seen as extensions of nature itself.

The division between "natural" and "artificial" is largely a human construct. We tend to label things as "artificial" when they involve human intervention or when they don't resemble what we observe in the wild. But if you look at it from a broader, ecological or cosmic point of view, human ingenuity and the objects we create are just another aspect of nature's processes. We, like beavers building dams or birds constructing nests, are organizing materials in ways that serve specific purposes.

So, in this holistic view, there's no real separation—what we call "artificial" is simply a manifestation of natural processes involving human beings. It's more a matter of how we frame the distinction than any inherent difference.

bump

(wish it were different circumstances)