Question:
If you book a flight to City A, with a layover in City B, but abandon the connecting flight, will it void your return trip from City A?
Basically, looking at booking a flight to Amsterdam, then puddle jumping south to Lisbon ($513 round trip to A-dam, versus $1,300+ to Lisbon). The connecting flight in Munich has us sitting around the airport and then connecting to A-dam in the evening. We could catch a flight out of Munich and be in Lisbon a day earlier.
We fly back from A-dam, but on a different airline. Going there is Lufthansa, back on United.
Any experts out there?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ender
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 12:34 pm
Hidden city ticketing occurs
Hidden city ticketing occurs when a passenger disembarks an indirect flight at the connection node. Flight fares are subject to market forces, and therefore do not necessarily correlate to the distance flown. As a result, a flight between point A to point C, with a connection node at point B, might be cheaper than a flight between point A and point B. It is then possible to purchase a flight ticket from point A to point C, disembark at the connection node (B) and discard the remaining segment (B to C).
Using the hidden city tactic is usually practical only for one-way trips, as the airlines will cancel the subsequent parts of the trip once a traveler has disembarked. Thus, round-trip itineraries need to be created by piecing two one-way flights together.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airline_booking_ploys#Hidden_city_ticketing
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 12:42 pm
Thanks, ender.
Thanks, ender.
More detail: We found the itinerary and fare on cheapoair.com. The flight there is on Lufthansa and the second leg is on a different airline.
The return is on yet another airline (United). Since these different flights are taped together by cheapo, is this outside the scenario you posted from Wiki?
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on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 12:58 pm
Don't check any luggage if
Don't check any luggage if you try this method
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 01:04 pm
Actually, I think we would
Actually, I think we would need to get luggage and go through immigration/customs in Germany.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sycamore Slough Disco Stu
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 01:05 pm
There's also the "Open Jaw"
There's also the "Open Jaw" variant...
For example I booked a flight from PDX through Minneapolis and Cleveland to Montreal.
Took a train from Montreal to NYC and flew PHL to PDX later.
Sort of a round-trip but actually an "Open Jaw".
The air segments were booked through Orbitz; it was all less costly compared to other options.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: smiley 73guy
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 01:21 pm
Flights from South Africa to
Flights from South Africa to Australia often stop in Dubai.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Imagine Floops
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 01:25 pm
Ned in A'dam. Gonna snub me,
Ned in A'dam. Gonna snub me, Ned?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 01:26 pm
The only way it works is if
The only way it works is if you have the leg you will not be using be the last leg with that airline.
Forever!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 01:27 pm
Right, Surfy.
Right, Surfy.
So, since cheapo is taping together these flights from different airlines, are we at risk?
Floops, we aren't going to France.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High Surfdead
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 01:31 pm
Hmm...haven't the foggiest.
Hmm...haven't the foggiest.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Imagine Floops
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 01:34 pm
See? That's what I thought.
See? That's what I thought.
Nice knowing ya, Ned.
I don't see you anymore.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 01:37 pm
Floops, ideally we will be
Floops, ideally we will be snubbing The Netherlands, as a whole, on our trip to Portugal. However, if this scenarios works out we hope to spend a night in A-dam on our return.
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on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 02:07 pm
This is the website you are
This is the website you are looking for....
https://skiplagged.com/
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ender
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 02:30 pm
>> Since these different
>> Since these different flights are taped together by cheapo, is this outside the scenario you posted from Wiki?
From my reading, it seems like you would still be at risk of having your flights canceled. But I am far from an expert on the subject.
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on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 04:04 pm
waiting for javedude to chime
waiting for javedude to chime in here cause he knows alot about airlines and such..
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 04:50 pm
Just change into leggings
Just change into leggings once the first leg of the flight is in the air, and then hope they kick you off at the first stop :)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 19.5 Degrees FaceOnMars
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 09:27 pm
The judges have ruled this
The judges have ruled this "airline" thread is devoid of panashe.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Racketinmyhead Racketinmyhead
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 09:39 pm
I'm pretty sure united is a
I'm pretty sure united is a part of lufthansa's star alliance. As is Swiss air and others. Their ticketing is all connected. Why not take a train from Amsterdam or wherever to Lisbon?
remember Europe has fast efficient trains!
Or here are some super discounted airlines, to try and play with
ryanair, easy jet, eurowings.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Racketinmyhead Racketinmyhead
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 09:49 pm
Just kidding. Looks like it
Just kidding. Looks like it's a 20 hour train ride.
so you are buying a USA to Munich to Amsterdam to Lisbon plane ticket?
whats that trip layovers included? 40 hours?
there are def worse places to get lay ed over than Munich.
prost!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Racketinmyhead Racketinmyhead
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 09:51 pm
http://www.staralliance.com
http://www.staralliance.com/en/member-airlines
yes, essentially Lufthansa and united are one in the same.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Randy Salvador Vagrante
on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 – 11:23 pm
Umm...
Umm...
https://www.netjets.com/Mobile-Global-Landing/
Any questions?
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on Thursday, March 30, 2017 – 01:57 am
Ned, I was going for a
Ned, I was going for a schtick, but wasn't there to keep going. Please disregard my bs whining up there. Enjoy your time and have a good flight.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: smiley 73guy
on Thursday, March 30, 2017 – 07:25 am
Floops, why did the Dutch
Floops, why did the Dutch pull Dr Phil's programming after his recent epsiode on human trafficking and ritual abuse by those in power?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Alias botb
on Friday, March 31, 2017 – 03:58 am
I'm surprised you cant finder
I'm surprised you cant finder cheaper flights to Lisbon. Ive seen them. Check flights connecting out of Orlando or Miami. Atlanta or DC. It's the closest place in Europe to fly. Bummed we did not get there on our Spain trip and noooooo it is not convenient to take a train. The Iberian peninsula is big!
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on Friday, March 31, 2017 – 04:06 am
My informal pick a random
My informal pick a random date survey says miami to lisbon nonstop rt in the 6-700 range. More than it once was but also cheaper than orlando or atlanta. Now you just have to get to Miami. Benefit is shorter flight.
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on Friday, March 31, 2017 – 04:09 am
Also there used to be cheap
Also there used to be cheap as fuck planes from London to Lisbon but that may have changed post Brexit. All those expat Brits are bumming.
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on Friday, March 31, 2017 – 10:50 am
In the past, flights to &
In the past, flights to & from Orlando seemed cheap compared to other East coast cities. This may be true today, I suspected Dizzney subsidies.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved nedb
on Friday, March 31, 2017 – 11:10 am
We're flying out of Denver.
We're flying out of Denver.
Lisbon is way expensive ($1300+) anytime after memorial weekend. Amsterdam, London and Paris are all about $600-700. Puddle jumps from there to Lisbon are cheap, like $120 cheap. So, that's the way to go.
The flight I was targeting was $513, and was the flight to A-dam via Munich from Denver. That flight is now GONE so the crux of this here thread is now MOOT.