Say what you will about Shappy, the linup, the price tag, or whatever; I guarantee you there will actually be a functioning festival, as promised, happening at Lockn'. So there's that.
I think Shappy has been on a good run since he manifested that rainbow that refracted off Slacker's forehead at GD50.
Actually thinking about visiting the BB the next time I'm in Brooklyn. I heard they serve the same friend chicken as the Vegas location, which is delish.
Very special hour in a crowded hot tent not nearly appealing to me as JRAD at the bowl.
Regarding it raining too hard, I was there that year and looking back it was a success that they were able to go on after that storm. Who can the weather command.
>>>>I will say this, there's now an In-N-Out directly below the LVBB ... so slim chance just went to none re: me ever eating food inside that "venue".
Apparently you aren't familiar with my fried chicken prowess, which is the stuff of legend. When St. Mark say the fried chicken good, the fried chicken good.
Only a "fool" would eat In-N-Out and pass on Blue Ribbon fried chicken.
I'm not going, but can only imagine how much it would suck to receive an email with the billing of shows I'm effectively unable to see
This didn't just randomly "happen", there's clearly an intention re: marketing ... not to restate the obvious, but people seem to "forget" when some fluff the fuck out of what he's done to bring the music to us.
Looking at the long term: he needs to be exposed, unless you like the trajectory of the scene's ride into the future.
Are you OK with up and coming generations accepting this sort of BS within our scene as being acceptable / status quo?
Not going to say it hasn't already been happening, but does there not seem to be something more "structural" about VIP / upselling -> class stratification that can be mitigated by simply not buying into it? vs. what may have been a more natural organic progression (or "regression") from the early days of the Acid Tests -> In the Dark'ers
Seems like you could see any of those performers in small, intimate venues if the artists seeing your face in the audience is so important to the custy star fuckers. TXR, Sweetwater, Fur Peace...
Never mind me, I'm grumpy and I miss the Grateful Dead where the gross star fuckers and social climbers were primarily behind the scenes instead of constantly on the rail at every show making sure everyone sees them there. I guess if Shappy can get them to pay through the weenie for it, good for him.
I'm not going, but can only imagine how much it would suck to receive an email with the billing of shows I'm effectively unable to see
This didn't just randomly "happen", there's clearly an intention re: marketing ... not to restate the obvious, but people seem to "forget" when some fluff the fuck out of what he's done to bring the music to us.
Looking at the long term: he needs to be exposed, unless you like the trajectory of the scene's ride into the future.
Are you OK with up and coming generations accepting this sort of BS within our scene as being acceptable / status quo?
I don't thing any promoter is influencing the trajectory of the scene in any fashion, much less Peter Shapiro. VIP "experience" packages are part of just about every mid-sized performer tour out there. It doesn't matter what scene it is. It has more to do with there being an older demographic who does not want to deal with many of the hassles involved in a show and are willing to pay to eliminate those hassle. Silly little things like waiting in line to enter the venue or to have a clean, air conditioned, flush toilet without, again, waiting in line.
Different artists and/or promoters handle the demand for VIP in different ways. Some just take the money and give additional value in the form of t-shirts, commemerative laminates, special performances, meet and greets, meet and eats, etc. Others provide lounges and informal meet and greets, selfie sessions with the artists as part of a charity experience, with the proceeds going to a charity.
I am aware of the demand of some of these events by knowing the people who run them and let me tell you that the demand is off the charts. A certain artist runs a lounge at almost all of his performances and charges 1500 per ticket which includes a premium ticket, pre-show lounge with free and inexpensive drinks and a brief meet/greet/selfie session before the show. They cap this at 500 - 1000 tickets per show based on the size of the venue. At most shows, there is a wait list of over 2000 to get in.
That is a pretty strong demand if you ask me. Obviously a whole lot of people aren't bothered at all that there is some stratification of the scene based on income. In most areas of life there is pretty much the same. 'tis life.
Yes, it was $12, and if they would've announced it 2 days in advance I could've made the trip!
We went to Lockn in (oops) 2014. It is a well-organized fest. We got to see Phil and ABB and SCI....and we had regular early bird tickets...felt like there was room to move around. We shipped out our camping gear and went for it and found some friends from Wanee fest who took us in.
Those Super VIP shows happen in the middle of the night in a big tent. Regular ticket holders get to see late-night sets in the outdoor bowl out in the pasture... that year we got to see Joe Russo's Bustle in your Hedgerow (LZ covers), which was mind-blowing at that hour.
Because of the 94 degree heat and the 98% humidity, the VIP amenities are super attractive, but not at those prices! sheesh!
I don't thing any promoter is influencing the trajectory of the scene in any fashion, much less Peter Shapiro.<<<
Regardless of whether we agree or not, it's good to see you responding skifurthur ... hope you're doing well!
I agree that there's a much larger industry wide current & Shapiro didn't invent it, but he's certainly adapted it to the "GD related scene" ... which I think historically is different than most in so far as embracing notions of "social equality" in a more general sense and as it relates to the concert going experience. Yes, reserved vs. GA has pretty much always been around, and I often roll my eyes when someone says "there's no such thing as 'assigned seating' at a GD-related show" ... but still, there's something to this sentitiment.
After going around and around on this topic, I've started to wonder if still being on the "front lines" at 48 years old and seeing 60+ concerts per year (of one shape or another) puts me in a minority perspective in so far as my demographic goes? IOW, maybe I'm a bit of an anomaly and most people my age aren't seeing nearly as many shows; and when they do, they're careful & selective in so far as trying to avoid the typical concert-going bs, or are willing to pay to avoid it via VIP.
If this is the case, it's even more reason to band against VIP mechanism that causes stratification. I suppose living in a western culture, it's consistent with our general approach to elderly in so far as isolation & compartmentalization vs. an "extended family". Wouldn't it help the scene to have older heads explain to younger ones re: "bad behavior", or simply to be within the younger generation's field of view as a good role model vs. being partitioned away on the other side of the barrier? Granted, we're not quite "there" yet to such an extreme, but it's a slippery slope and I can only imagine how more more severe the stratification will become in the long term.
I don't really agree with the KW negativity, but have not seen the guy an awful lot recently. I suppose anybody could get bored of the whole solo-act looper-machine technique after a while.
Around the turn of the century I thought the Keller shows were great Fun, in small audiences with small-priced tickets. Few places in and around Eugene like "Wild Duck" (rip) and "Dexter Lake". For NYE 2000->2001 we saw "Keller Williams Incident" in Porland, OR and it was really not too awful, we actually had fun.
Maybe not on the scale of the NYE with RatDog, PLF & Crusader Rabbit "Fun" but still a harmless evening, and nearby hotel with a pool.
I think that KW has inspired dozens, or hundreds of aspiring musicians to get Looper pedals and practice Music more.
Another way to think about the VRP experience is it's just what VRP's have always sought out anyway ie. they buy front row from a scalper at crazy price, they pay the security guard to go back stage. They bring a waiter waitress to the show with them to run back and forth with drinks for bennies. These are all things I've seen people do in the old days why shouldn't promoters/ artists get in on that action ? Once they put a fence in front of the stage in the concert area that's too far. I don't think Lockn' does that ? When they have the fence with a crowded area on half the stage and a spacious area with a pool on the other side that's just profane. At that point the festival experience is not one of a counter culture but just a microcosm of the larger culture.
These are all things I've seen people do in the old days why shouldn't promoters/ artists get in on that action ? Once they put a fence in front of the stage in the concert area that's too far.<<<
That's kinda the rub: it's a very slippery slope; just about anything could potentially be for sale that we now "take for granted" as being free.
But the thing with fences, they do far more "damage" to the social scene than simply as a barrier to prevent access.
Before fences, the "high roller" would still need to have to interact with "undesirables" and at least put on a game face ... now, said high roller will be surrounded by others of a like mindset who will at the very least have subconsciously, if not overtly, "validated" one another in so far as their decision to retreat to the comfort of the inner sanctum of the castle behind the mote. There's no longer a need to have to "work things out" with one's neighbor who might not necessarily be of a like mind. Now, it's simply a beeline to cross the drawbridge and find "comfort".
If I really wanted the amenities, I'd totally plop down the cheddar. Open bar, A/C, lots of space? Sounds great. Where do I sign up?
In terms of the class implications; meh. Who cares, really? There are a lot of people with disposable income who maybe only do one festival, and that's their vacation. It doesn't bother me that they want to go in style. I like to vacation in style, too.
For my money, the three day gigs down in Mexico seem like the way to go, in terms of stylish destination music festivals. Everybody I know who has attended one of those has said it was a great experience.
To each their own, but I don't get it either. Seen the dude 15+ times in various formats and still dig his one man band shtick, which he somehow manages to keep fresh and fun each time. Ironically, the one time I was disappointed was when he fronted Bill and Mickey's band at NWSS in 2010. I thought between Keller and the Devils, they would pull off some trippy, looping psychedelic madness, but instead we got a mediocre Grateful Dead bar band. Still would not pay $$$$ to see the guy (nor Bob n Phil for that matter) at some VIP tent. That being said, to each their own and I am not going to tell somebody how to spend their money.
I hate the classist, elitist implications of the super vip bullshit. It's not even the price. If I could actually afford I still wouldn't do it. It's just weird in a not good or fun way.
But, I guess you gotta make $$$ for sustainability.
I don't usually do VIP, but when Bromberg offered up the perfect VIP for only 44 bucks more than the original 44 in the door fee...I jumped at it :)
This is VIP...
Private and up close parking
Tented seated area with couch/comfy seating
FREE bottled water and snacks
First choice for front of stage viewing ( bring your own chair)
Private and close restrooms ( worth the 44 bucks in and of itself ...yeah, I'm old...lol )
This is the type of festi I am grateful for these days, small town, slow n sweet..;) Plus I adore David Bromberg, nicest guy around !
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D.
But will there be swimsuit
But will there be swimsuit models, gourmet meals, and a Kardashian?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark
Exactly, Ken.
Exactly, Ken.
Say what you will about Shappy, the linup, the price tag, or whatever; I guarantee you there will actually be a functioning festival, as promised, happening at Lockn'. So there's that.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day
>>>>Say what you will about
>>>>Say what you will about Shappy
He looks like he might not know his own strength and probably doesn't like having his ears touched.
(I miss you PJ)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark
I think Shappy has been on a
I think Shappy has been on a good run since he manifested that rainbow that refracted off Slacker's forehead at GD50.
Actually thinking about visiting the BB the next time I'm in Brooklyn. I heard they serve the same friend chicken as the Vegas location, which is delish.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: The Sound of Steam and Caffeine
I guarantee you there will
I guarantee you there will actually be a functioning festival, as promised, happening at Lockn' ~ if it doesn't rain too hard.
I fixed that for you.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: onthehillside
Very special hour in a
Very special hour in a crowded hot tent not nearly appealing to me as JRAD at the bowl.
Regarding it raining too hard, I was there that year and looking back it was a success that they were able to go on after that storm. Who can the weather command.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Jelly roll
The BB fried chicken(and all
The BB fried chicken(and all the other blue ribbon food) is coming to the Capitol next year....building a restaurant on the opposite side of El Tio's
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 19.5 Degrees
Say what you will about
Say what you will about Shappy<<<
I've hired a professional editor who is currently reviewing my "copy" on the subject ... to be posted later.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 19.5 Degrees
I heard they serve the same
I heard they serve the same friend chicken as the Vegas location, which is delish.<<<
I will say this, there's now an In-N-Out directly below the LVBB ... so slim chance just went to none re: me ever eating food inside that "venue".
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 19.5 Degrees
WFT is "Super VIP anyhow? Is
WFT is "Super VIP anyhow? Is it not all of "our time" anyhow? Who does he think he is to say otherwise?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ________
If you don't know what super
If you don't know what super VIP is you might be a goat herder in Somaliland
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark
>>>>I will say this, there's
>>>>I will say this, there's now an In-N-Out directly below the LVBB ... so slim chance just went to none re: me ever eating food inside that "venue".
Apparently you aren't familiar with my fried chicken prowess, which is the stuff of legend. When St. Mark say the fried chicken good, the fried chicken good.
Only a "fool" would eat In-N-Out and pass on Blue Ribbon fried chicken.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: treat island
People at TXR just had a very
People at TXR just had a very special hour with Bob and Phil yesterday, is there more?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Localcountyline
^Sure, if you have 2k.
^Sure, if you have 2k.
The most overrated burgers ever, Mars.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: I rang a silent bell
Judit, I was thinking the
I could fly to CA, see friends, go to a TXR show, probably see Phil, and do lots of great stuff for a week for less than $2049.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: treat island
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: dj_easy_wind
Say what you want, Lockn is Rockn...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Zzzzzz
Are people really willing to
Are people really willing to pay $2000 for an hour of phil and bob and Keller Williams.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sound and Vision
Keller Williams super VIP is
Keller Williams super VIP is pretty laughable. Has his shtick changed much?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 19.5 Degrees
at this point, would rather
at this point, would rather be a goat herder
I'm not going, but can only imagine how much it would suck to receive an email with the billing of shows I'm effectively unable to see
This didn't just randomly "happen", there's clearly an intention re: marketing ... not to restate the obvious, but people seem to "forget" when some fluff the fuck out of what he's done to bring the music to us.
Looking at the long term: he needs to be exposed, unless you like the trajectory of the scene's ride into the future.
Are you OK with up and coming generations accepting this sort of BS within our scene as being acceptable / status quo?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Def. High
>>>>>this sort of BS within
>>>>>this sort of BS within our scene as being acceptable
Unfortunately, it has been the case for quite a while now that "our scene" is but a small pimple on the ass of this BS.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day
>>>>>this sort of BS within
>>>>>this sort of BS within our scene as being acceptable
Didn't the Boomers already ruin "the scene" in the late 70's/early 80's?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 19.5 Degrees
Not going to say it hasn't
Not going to say it hasn't already been happening, but does there not seem to be something more "structural" about VIP / upselling -> class stratification that can be mitigated by simply not buying into it? vs. what may have been a more natural organic progression (or "regression") from the early days of the Acid Tests -> In the Dark'ers
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Jay
I miss PJ and his
I miss PJ and his contributions too, TH.
DJ Logic is cool.
Crazy how expensive SUPER VIP is. There must be a market for it if they keep doing it :( Damn. I love that meme of Jer'.
I think I'll be at this year's Lock'n and am looking forward to the trek to Appalachia in my new truck with my friends.
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>>DJ Logic is cool.
>>DJ Logic is cool.
definitely
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: aiq
When Weir played here
When Weir played here recently they offered Enhanced Experience, $1200 for two.
http://www.cidentertainment.com/events/bob-weir-2017/
THE ENHANCED EXPERIENCE FOR TWO PEOPLE
Two (2) premium reserved tickets in the first two (2) rows to see Bob Weir live in concert
Invitation to attend soundcheck
Two (2) framed photo prints with commemorative ticket
Two (2) limited-edition posters, signed and numbered by the poster artist
Two (2) premium merchandise gifts
On-site concert and experience concierge
The Enhanced Experience for Two People: $1,299
Package price is inclusive of service fees.
I stuck with the fungal enhanced experience
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ParadiseWaits
Seems like you could see any
Seems like you could see any of those performers in small, intimate venues if the artists seeing your face in the audience is so important to the custy star fuckers. TXR, Sweetwater, Fur Peace...
Never mind me, I'm grumpy and I miss the Grateful Dead where the gross star fuckers and social climbers were primarily behind the scenes instead of constantly on the rail at every show making sure everyone sees them there. I guess if Shappy can get them to pay through the weenie for it, good for him.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: skifurthur
at this point, would rather
I don't thing any promoter is influencing the trajectory of the scene in any fashion, much less Peter Shapiro. VIP "experience" packages are part of just about every mid-sized performer tour out there. It doesn't matter what scene it is. It has more to do with there being an older demographic who does not want to deal with many of the hassles involved in a show and are willing to pay to eliminate those hassle. Silly little things like waiting in line to enter the venue or to have a clean, air conditioned, flush toilet without, again, waiting in line.
Different artists and/or promoters handle the demand for VIP in different ways. Some just take the money and give additional value in the form of t-shirts, commemerative laminates, special performances, meet and greets, meet and eats, etc. Others provide lounges and informal meet and greets, selfie sessions with the artists as part of a charity experience, with the proceeds going to a charity.
I am aware of the demand of some of these events by knowing the people who run them and let me tell you that the demand is off the charts. A certain artist runs a lounge at almost all of his performances and charges 1500 per ticket which includes a premium ticket, pre-show lounge with free and inexpensive drinks and a brief meet/greet/selfie session before the show. They cap this at 500 - 1000 tickets per show based on the size of the venue. At most shows, there is a wait list of over 2000 to get in.
That is a pretty strong demand if you ask me. Obviously a whole lot of people aren't bothered at all that there is some stratification of the scene based on income. In most areas of life there is pretty much the same. 'tis life.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: An organ grinder’s tune
>star fuckers<
>star fuckers<
wasn't that owsley's kid's name?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff
Very special hour at txr?
Very special hour at txr?
Please elaborate.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jeff
Very special hour at txr?
Dise cracks me up.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: The Sound of Steam and Caffeine
I think the show at TXR this
I think the show at TXR this week was $12.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: MeditateontheQ
Yes, it was $12, and if they
Yes, it was $12, and if they would've announced it 2 days in advance I could've made the trip!
We went to Lockn in (oops) 2014. It is a well-organized fest. We got to see Phil and ABB and SCI....and we had regular early bird tickets...felt like there was room to move around. We shipped out our camping gear and went for it and found some friends from Wanee fest who took us in.
Those Super VIP shows happen in the middle of the night in a big tent. Regular ticket holders get to see late-night sets in the outdoor bowl out in the pasture... that year we got to see Joe Russo's Bustle in your Hedgerow (LZ covers), which was mind-blowing at that hour.
Because of the 94 degree heat and the 98% humidity, the VIP amenities are super attractive, but not at those prices! sheesh!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 19.5 Degrees
I don't thing any promoter is
I don't thing any promoter is influencing the trajectory of the scene in any fashion, much less Peter Shapiro.<<<
Regardless of whether we agree or not, it's good to see you responding skifurthur ... hope you're doing well!
I agree that there's a much larger industry wide current & Shapiro didn't invent it, but he's certainly adapted it to the "GD related scene" ... which I think historically is different than most in so far as embracing notions of "social equality" in a more general sense and as it relates to the concert going experience. Yes, reserved vs. GA has pretty much always been around, and I often roll my eyes when someone says "there's no such thing as 'assigned seating' at a GD-related show" ... but still, there's something to this sentitiment.
After going around and around on this topic, I've started to wonder if still being on the "front lines" at 48 years old and seeing 60+ concerts per year (of one shape or another) puts me in a minority perspective in so far as my demographic goes? IOW, maybe I'm a bit of an anomaly and most people my age aren't seeing nearly as many shows; and when they do, they're careful & selective in so far as trying to avoid the typical concert-going bs, or are willing to pay to avoid it via VIP.
If this is the case, it's even more reason to band against VIP mechanism that causes stratification. I suppose living in a western culture, it's consistent with our general approach to elderly in so far as isolation & compartmentalization vs. an "extended family". Wouldn't it help the scene to have older heads explain to younger ones re: "bad behavior", or simply to be within the younger generation's field of view as a good role model vs. being partitioned away on the other side of the barrier? Granted, we're not quite "there" yet to such an extreme, but it's a slippery slope and I can only imagine how more more severe the stratification will become in the long term.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Jerman
last guy I knew in vip ran
last guy I knew in vip ran out of gas and no one in vip was there to help out... hmmmm
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ...
One guy I knew in GA was
One guy I knew in GA was allowed to dump all his fine bud in the grass and grind it into the ground by the fuzz.
Thanks for the gas, man
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Roarshock
I have laser vision and I can
I have laser vision and I can fly.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sideshow Bob
You'd have to pay me $2049 to
You'd have to pay me $2049 to sit thru a set of Keller Williams . . .
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sycamore Slough
I don't really agree with the
I don't really agree with the KW negativity, but have not seen the guy an awful lot recently. I suppose anybody could get bored of the whole solo-act looper-machine technique after a while.
Around the turn of the century I thought the Keller shows were great Fun, in small audiences with small-priced tickets. Few places in and around Eugene like "Wild Duck" (rip) and "Dexter Lake". For NYE 2000->2001 we saw "Keller Williams Incident" in Porland, OR and it was really not too awful, we actually had fun.
Maybe not on the scale of the NYE with RatDog, PLF & Crusader Rabbit "Fun" but still a harmless evening, and nearby hotel with a pool.
I think that KW has inspired dozens, or hundreds of aspiring musicians to get Looper pedals and practice Music more.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: BlackPeter
Once they put a fence in
Another way to think about the VRP experience is it's just what VRP's have always sought out anyway ie. they buy front row from a scalper at crazy price, they pay the security guard to go back stage. They bring a waiter waitress to the show with them to run back and forth with drinks for bennies. These are all things I've seen people do in the old days why shouldn't promoters/ artists get in on that action ? Once they put a fence in front of the stage in the concert area that's too far. I don't think Lockn' does that ? When they have the fence with a crowded area on half the stage and a spacious area with a pool on the other side that's just profane. At that point the festival experience is not one of a counter culture but just a microcosm of the larger culture.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 19.5 Degrees
These are all things I've
These are all things I've seen people do in the old days why shouldn't promoters/ artists get in on that action ? Once they put a fence in front of the stage in the concert area that's too far.<<<
That's kinda the rub: it's a very slippery slope; just about anything could potentially be for sale that we now "take for granted" as being free.
But the thing with fences, they do far more "damage" to the social scene than simply as a barrier to prevent access.
Before fences, the "high roller" would still need to have to interact with "undesirables" and at least put on a game face ... now, said high roller will be surrounded by others of a like mindset who will at the very least have subconsciously, if not overtly, "validated" one another in so far as their decision to retreat to the comfort of the inner sanctum of the castle behind the mote. There's no longer a need to have to "work things out" with one's neighbor who might not necessarily be of a like mind. Now, it's simply a beeline to cross the drawbridge and find "comfort".
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: St. Mark
The VIP thing doesn't bother
The VIP thing doesn't bother me in the least.
If I really wanted the amenities, I'd totally plop down the cheddar. Open bar, A/C, lots of space? Sounds great. Where do I sign up?
In terms of the class implications; meh. Who cares, really? There are a lot of people with disposable income who maybe only do one festival, and that's their vacation. It doesn't bother me that they want to go in style. I like to vacation in style, too.
For my money, the three day gigs down in Mexico seem like the way to go, in terms of stylish destination music festivals. Everybody I know who has attended one of those has said it was a great experience.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D.
>>>I don't really agree with
>>>I don't really agree with the KW negativity
To each their own, but I don't get it either. Seen the dude 15+ times in various formats and still dig his one man band shtick, which he somehow manages to keep fresh and fun each time. Ironically, the one time I was disappointed was when he fronted Bill and Mickey's band at NWSS in 2010. I thought between Keller and the Devils, they would pull off some trippy, looping psychedelic madness, but instead we got a mediocre Grateful Dead bar band. Still would not pay $$$$ to see the guy (nor Bob n Phil for that matter) at some VIP tent. That being said, to each their own and I am not going to tell somebody how to spend their money.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Peglet
I hate the classist, elitist
I hate the classist, elitist implications of the super vip bullshit. It's not even the price. If I could actually afford I still wouldn't do it. It's just weird in a not good or fun way.
But, I guess you gotta make $$$ for sustainability.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: comic book colors on a violin river...
I don't usually do VIP, but
I don't usually do VIP, but when Bromberg offered up the perfect VIP for only 44 bucks more than the original 44 in the door fee...I jumped at it :)
This is VIP...
Private and up close parking
Tented seated area with couch/comfy seating
FREE bottled water and snacks
First choice for front of stage viewing ( bring your own chair)
Private and close restrooms ( worth the 44 bucks in and of itself ...yeah, I'm old...lol )
This is the type of festi I am grateful for these days, small town, slow n sweet..;) Plus I adore David Bromberg, nicest guy around !