the cultural short term memory epidemic has reached staggering heights.
I'll take this opportunity to confess I've never seen my dinner with Andre nor iggy pop and I'm starting to feel like my life is slightly less because of it.
I, too, will admit that I've never seen My Dinner with Andre (nor Iggy Pop) and I may have to remedy that. Thanks for the link to that part of the conversation, Turtle.
Andre: They've built their own prison, so they exist a state of schizophrenia. They're both guards and prisoners and as a result they no longer have, having been lobotomized, the capacity to leave the prison they've made, or to even see it as a prison.
“ANDRÉ: Okay. Yes. We’re bored now. We’re all bored. But has it ever occurred to you, Wally, thatthe process which creates this boredom that we see in the world now may very well be a self-perpetuating unconscious form of brainwashing created by a world totalitarian government based on money? And that all of this is much more dangerous, really, than one thinks? And that it’s not just a question of individual survival, Wally, but that somebody who’s bored is asleep? And somebody who’s asleep will not say no?”
― Wallace Shawn, My Dinner With André
Andre:
You see, I keep thinking that what we need is a new language, a language of the heart, languages in the Polish forest where language wasn't needed. Some kind of language between people that is a new kind of poetry, that's the poetry of the dancing bee that tells us where the honey is. And I think that in order to create that language, you're going to have to learn how you can go through a looking glass into another kind of perception, where you have that sense of being united to all things. And suddenly, you understand everything..............
that's cool. i'll have to check andre out. always been partial to this as being truthful, not bored, in our world:
You have meddled with the primal forces of nature, Mr. Beale, and I won't have it!! Is that clear?! You think you've merely stopped a business deal. That is not the case. The Arabs have taken billions of dollars out of this country, and now they must put it back! It is ebb and flow, tidal gravity! It is ecological balance!
You are an old man who thinks in terms of nations and peoples. There are no nations. There are no peoples. There are no Russians. There are no Arabs. There are no third worlds. There is no West. There is only one holistic system of systems, one vast and immane, interwoven, interacting, multivariate, multinational dominion of dollars. Petro-dollars, electro-dollars, multi-dollars, reichmarks, rins, rubles, pounds, and shekels.
It is the international system of currency which determines the totality of life on this planet. That is the natural order of things today. That is the atomic and subatomic and galactic structure of things today! And YOU have meddled with the primal forces of nature, and YOU WILL ATONE!
Am I getting through to you, Mr. Beale?
You get up on your little twenty-one inch screen and howl about America and democracy. There is no America. There is no democracy. There is only IBM and ITT and AT&T and DuPont, Dow, Union Carbide, and Exxon. Those are the nations of the world today.
What do you think the Russians talk about in their councils of state -- Karl Marx? They get out their linear programming charts, statistical decision theories, minimax solutions, and compute the price-cost probabilities of their transactions and investments, just like we do.
We no longer live in a world of nations and ideologies, Mr. Beale. The world is a college of corporations, inexorably determined by the immutable bylaws of business. The world is a business, Mr. Beale. It has been since man crawled out of the slime. And our children will live, Mr. Beale, to see that perfect world in which there's no war or famine, oppression or brutality -- one vast and ecumenical holding company, for whom all men will work to serve a common profit, in which all men will hold a share of stock, all necessities provided, all anxieties tranquilized, all boredom amused.
And I have chosen you, Mr. Beale, to preach this evangel.
Beale: But why me?
Jensen: Because you're on television, dummy. Sixty million people watch you every night of the week, Monday through Friday.
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on Tuesday, June 6, 2017 – 12:54 pm
I'm Bored
I'm Bored
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QGfHoPvOi3g
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on Tuesday, June 6, 2017 – 01:44 pm
Good stuff, T
Good stuff, Guys!
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on Tuesday, June 6, 2017 – 01:53 pm
Good shit, Turtle.
Good shit, Turtle.
"that history and memory are being erased"
It's called the Mandela Effect and its really really strange.
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on Tuesday, June 6, 2017 – 02:01 pm
Amen to that, the cultural
Amen to that!
the cultural short term memory epidemic has reached staggering heights.
I'll take this opportunity to confess I've never seen my dinner with Andre nor iggy pop and I'm starting to feel like my life is slightly less because of it.
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on Tuesday, June 6, 2017 – 02:03 pm
I, too, will admit that I've
I, too, will admit that I've never seen My Dinner with Andre (nor Iggy Pop) and I may have to remedy that. Thanks for the link to that part of the conversation, Turtle.
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on Tuesday, June 6, 2017 – 02:06 pm
Andre: They've built their
Andre: They've built their own prison, so they exist a state of schizophrenia. They're both guards and prisoners and as a result they no longer have, having been lobotomized, the capacity to leave the prison they've made, or to even see it as a prison.
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on Tuesday, June 6, 2017 – 02:07 pm
Maybe I love you. Maybe . . .
Maybe I love you. Maybe I'm just kinda bored . . .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6GWckNEIEE
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on Tuesday, June 6, 2017 – 02:08 pm
“ANDRÉ: Okay. Yes. We’re
“ANDRÉ: Okay. Yes. We’re bored now. We’re all bored. But has it ever occurred to you, Wally, that the process which creates this boredom that we see in the world now may very well be a self-perpetuating unconscious form of brainwashing created by a world totalitarian government based on money? And that all of this is much more dangerous, really, than one thinks? And that it’s not just a question of individual survival, Wally, but that somebody who’s bored is asleep? And somebody who’s asleep will not say no?”
― Wallace Shawn, My Dinner With André
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on Tuesday, June 6, 2017 – 02:14 pm
Andre:
Andre:
You see, I keep thinking that what we need is a new language, a language of the heart, languages in the Polish forest where language wasn't needed. Some kind of language between people that is a new kind of poetry, that's the poetry of the dancing bee that tells us where the honey is. And I think that in order to create that language, you're going to have to learn how you can go through a looking glass into another kind of perception, where you have that sense of being united to all things. And suddenly, you understand everything..............
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on Tuesday, June 6, 2017 – 02:16 pm
Judit, unless you're
Judit, unless you're completely adverse to iggy, I recommend checking out his pbs Austin city limits performance from a year or 2 ago.
His current ensemble consists of some slick younger cats with some pretty niffty vintage gear.
And I want to hear more about this polish forest
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on Tuesday, June 6, 2017 – 02:17 pm
No aversion at all, just
No aversion at all, just ennui.
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on Tuesday, June 6, 2017 – 02:24 pm
its in reference to nazis E
its in reference to nazis E
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on Tuesday, June 6, 2017 – 02:41 pm
Goddamn gestapo
Goddamn gestapo
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on Tuesday, June 6, 2017 – 02:45 pm
One of my favorite Ted
One of my favorite Ted Huntington songs
http://tedhuntington.com/audio/cfoai/06_gestapoworldv2.mp3
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on Tuesday, June 6, 2017 – 02:50 pm
Wally liked working with
I wonder if Wally ever got bored of working with dudes named Andre.
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on Tuesday, June 6, 2017 – 02:51 pm
Who r the brain police?!
Who r the brain police?!
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on Tuesday, June 6, 2017 – 04:09 pm
It can't happen HERE!
It can't happen HERE!
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on Tuesday, June 6, 2017 – 04:09 pm
2 of my threads are trending
2 of my threads are trending high.
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on Tuesday, June 6, 2017 – 05:48 pm
that's cool. i'll have to
that's cool. i'll have to check andre out. always been partial to this as being truthful, not bored, in our world:
You have meddled with the primal forces of nature, Mr. Beale, and I won't have it!! Is that clear?! You think you've merely stopped a business deal. That is not the case. The Arabs have taken billions of dollars out of this country, and now they must put it back! It is ebb and flow, tidal gravity! It is ecological balance!
You are an old man who thinks in terms of nations and peoples. There are no nations. There are no peoples. There are no Russians. There are no Arabs. There are no third worlds. There is no West. There is only one holistic system of systems, one vast and immane, interwoven, interacting, multivariate, multinational dominion of dollars. Petro-dollars, electro-dollars, multi-dollars, reichmarks, rins, rubles, pounds, and shekels.
It is the international system of currency which determines the totality of life on this planet. That is the natural order of things today. That is the atomic and subatomic and galactic structure of things today! And YOU have meddled with the primal forces of nature, and YOU WILL ATONE!
Am I getting through to you, Mr. Beale?
You get up on your little twenty-one inch screen and howl about America and democracy. There is no America. There is no democracy. There is only IBM and ITT and AT&T and DuPont, Dow, Union Carbide, and Exxon. Those are the nations of the world today.
What do you think the Russians talk about in their councils of state -- Karl Marx? They get out their linear programming charts, statistical decision theories, minimax solutions, and compute the price-cost probabilities of their transactions and investments, just like we do.
We no longer live in a world of nations and ideologies, Mr. Beale. The world is a college of corporations, inexorably determined by the immutable bylaws of business. The world is a business, Mr. Beale. It has been since man crawled out of the slime. And our children will live, Mr. Beale, to see that perfect world in which there's no war or famine, oppression or brutality -- one vast and ecumenical holding company, for whom all men will work to serve a common profit, in which all men will hold a share of stock, all necessities provided, all anxieties tranquilized, all boredom amused.
And I have chosen you, Mr. Beale, to preach this evangel.
Beale: But why me?
Jensen: Because you're on television, dummy. Sixty million people watch you every night of the week, Monday through Friday.
from 1976, Network. prescient.
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on Tuesday, June 6, 2017 – 09:12 pm
sorry turtle, didn't mean to
sorry turtle, didn't mean to kill your thread here,
thought it was pretty good.
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on Tuesday, June 6, 2017 – 09:22 pm
no worries hillman, nice
no worries hillman, nice excerpt there yourself. i can dig it.