Charlie Kirk shot in Utah

More like the neck from the videos on the Twitter video I saw.   No reason to shoot the asshole because shooting people is bad and he will probably just become some sort of martyr if he died.

Thoughts and prayers.

tots and pears

BURN THE PALACE DOWN

I watched a video.  Wish I didn't.  I don't see how he survives it.  This is fucked up.

more guns will make us safer

Key Quotes by Charlie Kirk on Guns

On Gun Deaths and the Second Amendment

"I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights."

On the Price of an Armed Citizenry

"Having an armed citizenry comes with a price, and that is part of liberty."

On Comparisons to Other Risks

"Driving comes with a price—50,000 people die on the road every year. That's a price. You get rid of driving, you'd have 50,000 less auto fatalities."

On the Reality of Gun Violence

"You will never live in a society when you have an armed citizenry and you won't have a single gun death. That is nonsense."

No thoughts - No prayers 

he advocated for this

hes dead and prayers dont stop bullets

This has got some folks really riled up.  Now they have their martyr.  

So when are they going to release the rest of the Epstein files? 

How long until they blame South Park? 

 I guess the National Guard will be along to Utah promptly.

trumpers AND democrats scolding me on fb for not being sad about this is cracking me up. 

>>>>How long until they blame South Park? 

The guy was a master debater.

Haven't watched the video (seen enough neck traumas during my hospital tenure).  Watched FB explode with the right wingers either giving their blessings, or wanting Civil War (and more lies about transgender people doing all the mass shootings).  The left doing the "violence is wrong" or "thoughts and prayers" routine....    

So I'll share a different opinion from the masses, a younger musician friend penned this;

<<
Yeah man we know violence is violence is bad- but that doesn’t apply to Nazis. Fuck that guy and everyone like him. How many people have been killed as a direct result of his career? How many times has the guy riled up sentiments of hatred towards countless people in this country? How many times has he been very clear that this type of violence is “worth it” when it’s happening to others, so long as he and his get to keep being racist, homophobic, misogynistic, white nationalist, assholes with zero sympathy for anyone else? I don’t care that he landed at the other end of the of an equation he has so wholeheartedly supported when it’s men like himself on the other end of the gun. Fuck him. That’s the fuckin you get for the fuckin you got. Thoughts and prayers asshole.
>>

glad i don't really know who this is.

Same for me, Turtle. I did hear today that he's a parent of a young child or children and I have feelings for them. I know, I've heard he's anti-empathy, but that was his trip, not mine. I'm sad for his family.

And high school kids in Evergreen, CO shot today.

Melt the guns!

^ Informative quotes El Nino.

Word was he was answering a question about his advocating banning trans people from owning guns. This MAGAT interviewed on the news, who was 15 feet away, suggested the guy who asked the question should be found and questioned- as if it was a set up. Yeah, from 200 yards away. 

Not into violence, and though I didn't care much for his politics, he engaged with people discussing the issues. I give him credit for that. We need that. Just finished a book by Loretta J. Ross called "Calling In - How To Start Making Change With Those You'd Rather Cancel." Don't call people out. Call 'em in, and show some love. Good stuff. We all need to do better if we wanna save this country.

Vigil tonight in the state capitol rotunda at 7:00. That was quick.  

" I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately , some gun deaths every single year ... "

Did someone prove him right or wrong 

I never heard this name before.  Of course I don't watch Fox News Entertainment. 

 he engaged with people discussing the issues. 

The "your body, my choice" guy? 

Remember the talk show trend when every host on TV was inviting the metzgers to advertise their nazism recruitment drive for free on national tv? I wonder if their movement ever got off the ground.

He also said the person who broke into Nancy Pelosi's house and smashed her husband's head in with a hammer was an "American Patriot" and that his supporters should bail him out of jail. 

I Know Nothing About Him So No RIP

https://apnews.com/article/colorado-high-school-shooting-evergreen-6ab8d... in other news another school shooting today

On Fox News they are saying. "Whether we want to accept it or not, they are at war with us. And what are we going to do about it? How much political violence are we going to tolerate?

At this moment we have no fucking idea who shot Charlie Kirk - could be he fucked some guys wife. Could be a pissed off Q Anon guy who was upset that Kirk did a 180 on the Epstein files. We don't know.

Also Trump said that they will fly the flags at half mast in honor of Kirk. He wouldn't even call the Governor of Minnesota after two Dem politicians were assassinated a few months ago by a right wing MAGA extremist and no flags were flown at half mast. 

Fox News is right they are at war with us.  

I can only imagine that whoever changes Trump's diapers had a very busy day today.

Reading  now Sounds Like A MAGA POS !

Probably some straight guy he met on grindr

So can you call a Nazi a Nazi anymore?

The Oval Office address was creepy as all fuck.

As of 11:34PM PST, the BBC reports that the manhunt continue

I find it interesting that the shooter is not yet in custody.

... and those interviewed are branding it as a "political assassination."

Press conference this morning. FBI say they found a bolt action rifle in some nearby woods and they have video of the suspect entering campus, going onto the roof, and escaping off the roof. They think they may be able to identify the suspect from those videos. Not releasing any names or pics just yet.  

No word yet on if ICE troops will be sent to Orem, Utah to clean up crime. 

On further reflection Dise, I see where his discussions and "debate" might've been more like opportunities to ridicule and deflect. Never watched one of his discussions, but his answers regarding trans mass shooters and mass shootings in general yesterday before he was shot seemed to me to be full of pompous snark causing the crowd to laugh. And he was only on his second question.      

Wouldn't be at all surprised if it turned out to be Trumpian set-up to justify some fascistic actions in the near future.

While I am totally against political violence!!!! I find it interesting how MAGA is applauding killing people without a trial when it's folks in a boat off the coast of Venezuela, innocent black civilians shot by cops, sending people to gulags without a trial, the death starving and forced removal of millions in Palestine, the beating of police with flagpoles , etc etc but they are totally outraged when it happens to one of them??? 

Photos of the suspect show a college age male. Slipped away in the chaos like John Wilkes Booth. and probably faces a similar fate.

^^^^ Given the name, it has to be about skin color 

Am I bad, not missing Charlie yet?

I really feel terrible for his kids however.

I knew more about him than I thought I did. Scary human being.

I feel for his kids and wife.

Melt the guns.

As big of an event this is , I am asking myself why I have never heard of this cat. 

His target audience was new college kids.

Charlie Kirk said if his 9 y/o daughter was r2ped and conceived that he'd force her to carry to term. I feel terrible for his kids because his wife is as fucked up as he is 

"grilled cheese samwhiches 1 for $3 2 for $5" 

>>> Charlie Kirk said if his 9 y/o daughter was r2ped and conceived that he'd force her to carry to term. I feel terrible for his kids because his wife is as fucked up as he is  <<<

Dise , in my opinion everything I read about this cat is kind of vial bullshit coming out of his mouth , great debater non- violent civil discourse or not. He's being treated like a head of state.

Get Mouthy ( Risk ) it might not end well.

Seems like this could all be a false flag to ignite a civil war and allow the regime to crack down on free speech and political opponents.

Kirk was adamant about releasing the Epstein files, they had reason to silence him too and create a Martyr. 
 

The best move would be for us all to show up to the vigils and convince the MAGA that we support Kirk's wishes to release the files and support them in their grief. It's a long shot..

September 10th 2025

NEVER FORGET

^now THERE is a man worth murdering in cold blood

Bill Mahers Club Random Podcast, with guest Charlie Kirk (4 months ago) 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OblCcO7-Alg&t=930s

he died the way he lived

with a bullet in the proverbial>>>>fr neck

buhbye

and

free luigi

oh, and, yea, he is mosdef their current martyr

#tamponear

"can't find the shooter"

as per my new fave fiancee:

"the bullet had just grazed

the scandal was contained"

his kids are now set for life

lastly, as someone who is freaked out so badly by guns as i work out in the public

i watched that video over and over

and over

something inside me is like biting on tinfoil anymore

FAM turned him in...he was punked by his family

I'm not a fan of vigilanteism and people playing judge, jury and executioner. It's fucked up in a million ways.

The people who kill "abortion doctors" with the excuse that it saves lives are no different than people who kill CEO's and political activists, also saying it saves lives. To repeat, they are exactly the same, using exactly the same justifications. They should all rot in jail. I don't understand how so-called liberals cheer this shit on. 

What is obvious is that hatred reaps hatred.

Tyler Robinson said Charlie Kirk was full of hate.

Charlie Kirk was against the concept of non-violence.

They both reaped what they sowed.

>>> This has got some folks really riled up.  Now they have their martyr.  

As Stephen Miller would have it, sacrifice an up-and-coming ideologue for the greater cause. "We must crack down on these left-wing radicals". 

>>>>mistake my ambivalence toward it as " support"

That is what we are seeing and its really disturbing.  Pete Hegeseth says he will track down and punish any service member who "celebrates or mocks" the assassination after a military officer complained about lowering the flag to half staff to honor a racist and misogynist podcaster.   The forced lionization of this asshole by the federal government and punishment for anyone who disagrees is chilling.

And it turns out the perp grew up in a conservative Mormon household.  

Yeah, they've politicized political assassinations. It's pretty fucked up.

IMO while the assassination shouldnt be supported or celebrated, there is an additional confounding factor in this specific assassination that i think opens up kirk to some pretty deserved post mortem criticism and mockery. the dude literally said that his own murder was "acceptable" in service of the second amendment. that is kirk's own words. death by gun violence is acceptable to achieve or preserve his political goals. if kirk himself really thought it was so acceptable then i dont see why its somehow beyond the pale for the general public to not really feel bad for the dude or make jokes about it. he literally told us to not feel bad about it. 

thinking that kirk's death is acceptable in the furtherance of yours, or someones political goals is exactly what he preached. now all of a sudden when shit gets real im supposed to be torn up over it? lol

Going back home shows he didn't care about being caught.   He wasn't too far from the border.  At least early on in the investigation they must have not yet determined what type of vehicle he was in, as he got a couple of hours drive away.

I could not care less about Charlie Kirk. I do care about how easy it has become to justify murder. I'm also worried that vigilantism will become normalized.

If you read this you are gay.

thinking that kirk's death is acceptable in the furtherance of yours, or someones political goals is exactly what he preached. now all of a sudden when shit gets real im supposed to be torn up over it? lol

well, I doubt he thought it would be HIS death

The shooter was raised with God, Guns and Guts. Recipe for creating a murderous MAGA Incel. 
 

"our label is run by homos"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njurqNQVzgA

Apparently ck was assassinated because he wasn't far-right enough

our maga mayor is lowering the flag. what a kook.

i guess hate speech is a national service....

I mean, he's basically the MLK of the alt-right

There sure is a lot of bowing down to false idols going on in the world at the moment...

The Last Person to Debate Charlie Kirk (Exclusive Interview)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18FNK6ZNGuo

Groypers - learn something new every day.  Saw the term being used in various Twitter posts and looked it.

Apparently, there is a viscous schism in the far right on line community between the Pro-Israel crowd and the hard core antisemitic faction, the later being known as Groypers after the Pepe the frog meme.  Those folks apparently hate Kirk more than anybody for his support of Israel.  

The best move would be for us all to show up to the vigils and convince the MAGA that we support Kirk's wishes to release the files and support them in their grief. It's a long shot..<<<

Right. Fantastic post.

..

Probably asking to much to get them on board with sensible gun control legislation to prevent the next MAGA Incel from committing gun violence?

funniest comment I read was that Kirk was killed by friendly fire.

Hunter said it best. "If you plant ice, you're going to harvest wind."

What a disgrace of a country the USA  has become. 

I hope and pray when Scump finishes the White House ballroom the final touch is a sign on the door that says "Evil Lives Here"

Wife Erika Kirk IS A TOTAL NUT JOB.

eriKa KirK 

Angry, power hungry white men in the U.S.  Highly problematic since 1492.

Probably asking to much to get them on board with sensible gun control legislation to prevent the next MAGA Incel from committing gun violence?

def not this time around. most proposed reasonable gun legislation wouldnt have stopped this. was done by a common hunting rifle by someone who seemingly had decent shooting experience, no criminal/mental health record,  lives with/is the son of an ex-LEO, took his shot from a somewhat hidden area outside of the official event zone, and didnt take advantage of any kind of open carry or pro-gun regulation to "hide" his gun in plain sight.

although i do support expanding gun control, its not really one of my primary issues im most passionate about, so maybe there is some proposed legislation/regulations  that would have effected this guy and  saved kirk, but from what i know about the proposed regulations that even have the slightest chance of being enacted, none of them would have really touched this dude and on paper he seems like a model gun owner under common sense gun control laws. no record, has training/experience, bolt action hunting rifle. 

charlie's death is important and striking in the conversation around gun control because of his past statement on the acceptability of gun deaths in service of the second amendment, but ultimately the gun control that would have been needed to prevent his death would be far beyond realistic and not something even many democrats would support. 

in a way, kirk's statements about some amount of gun deaths being acceptable in service of the second amendment isnt wrong, and its a concept that society applies to a ton of stuff thats totally uncontroversial - cars, knives, unhealthy food, alcohol, etc etc etc. unless your actual goal is a society/country with ZERO guns, there is probably going to be some amount of deaths from guns. a society with absolutely zero guns might be a nice dream, but as long as we are dreaming, that's about as realistic as a society with guns, but where everyone is magically perfectly responsible with them and everyone loves each other and gets along so there are no accidental gun deaths or murders ever.  

I wonder which Dead & Co. version of "He's Gone" Tucker Carlson is grieving to?