1200 days since my last drink of alcohol.

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Three years, three months, one week and six days ago I had my last drink. Twelve hundred days is a pretty

awesome milestone for me. I wonder if I will ever completely lose the desire to drink alcohol.

I still go to the pub for food and live music and there is no danger of me relapsing, but every once in awhile

I think a beer would be nice. So much healthier and happier without it. Thanks for reading.

You go, Zip!

Keep it up.

Nice job kirley

Congrats Zippy.  Now let's go celebrate with a couple of shots.  No really good work.  

Thank God for cannabis.

zippy this is great news...

 

but i would like to add something....

 

i feel like your day counting is akin to still being quite a slave to alcohol.... like a prisoner marking days in a cell....

 

do you think you could ever completely let go, and truly be free from even the temptation? this, would be true freedom....

 

keep on rockin in the free world.

I am a recovering alcoholic. I count the days to remind myself not to drink. If I stop counting I may forget why.

No. There will never be a day that I stop counting. It will take a lifetime to recover.

so.... no possibility, not even a chance of truly recovering?  im not berating you, simply asking. because i think there are other levels of freedom, and growth.

If counting helps, then count, but jonnyjonjon is wise...

You do your recovery your way and I will do mine my way. One day at a time. Now kindly shut the fuck up. Thanks.

i will stop, but i will not shut the fuck up...

 

recovery alone is tough, and its ok if we talk about it... i mean, you started this thread, right??? so, lets talk about it....

 

fanny taps and back slaps aside, there is more to your thread starting and day counting.....

Hey if counting the days works for him, then so be it.  As long as he stays off the bottle what does it matter Jon jon?  

Whatever works for you. Congrats

because one can recover from recovering.... its not over. life is a continuation.... not a series of goals....

 

you get over things, then you get over getting over them... its wonderful......

im not here to enable your recovery.......

>>>>you get over things, then you get over getting over them... its wonderful......

 

So get over it already. I'm not going to stop counting. You are being a dick at this point. 

congratulations and keep it going.

"just for today"

lol..... ok then.....

 

have a good one.

Keep up the sobriety from booze. It's a drug that does no good for anybody.

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Counting days helps me move the fuck on. I'm not hurting anybody doing it. This is what works for me.

This isn't for you to comprehend.

zip, this is what i was saying... your non stop day count, and endless threads are verging on the over analysis...

 

all i suggested is freedom from yourself.... i think you could try trusting yourself now.... you are not addicted any longer....... give it a try.....

 

 

Zippy what were you doing 1201 days ago?

Zippy will probably stop counting days once he figures out how to move beyond surly...

I was in Newark.

Congrats!

*burp*

How much were you drinking a day Zippy?  

Alcohol is a depressant. Probably the worst drug next to heroin. Very similar effects and results. I remember once in Tucson

I saw a heroin junkie stumbling in the middle of the street through traffic. I had to help him to other side. I asked him if

he was drunk and he screamed "if I were drunk I'd be happy!" His heroin high looked just like overdosing on alcohol.

Both heroin and alcohol have long term damage to brain as well.

Obviously, enough to be a problem.

How many days since your last Job ?

It doesn't matter how much or how often you drink. What matters is why you are drinking. That is the biggest part of letting go.

If you can be honest with yourself about the real reasons you drink then you'll have an easier time of recovering.

Six months of outpatient rehab three times a week helped me figure that out.

I am sure it was tough to not simply fall back into the bottle.  Good work.  How did you kick the coke addiction?  Were you smoking it?  You are not 

counting the days since you stopped doing coke.  What was the difference between the two when it came to becoming sober?  

Tulsa, I'm not playing twenty questions with your troll ass today. Alcohol is severely more addicting than coke.

Easier to get too. You've got a long way to go before I start conversing with you again.

Zippy I truly am interested in how you became the charming new Zippy.  I can't believe you are breaking up with me Christmas week.  Douche move

bro.  

No answer?

 

That's what I thought.

 

Tulsa, sobriety helped the charm factor big time. After the new year it will be forty freakin months. It might be time for you to

give an addiction up too. Think hard of what that might be.

RRG, learn to mind your own business. The question that you asked has nothing to do with you. Thanks

Zippy is it crazy Christmas sweaters?  Right now I am addicted to them.  J/K  Yes I would guess there are many Zoners who could stand to loose an

addiction or two.  

whatever works man. But as someone once said,  you are better off making the days count than counting the days. you might be far enough along to start doing that  BUT fucking do whatever works and stick to it.    try to be nice with it man.yes

How long before janicke melts?

Melt? For speaking the truth? This is a positive thread Mike. Let's keep it that way. Thanks

I think asking Zippy when the last time he actually contributed to society is a very valid question.

In fact I think he should try to find a job doing something more constructive than flipping burgers.

Or maybe volunteer in a crisis center, while looking for work.

Helping others does quite a bit towards helping yourself.

Instead of sucking off the system...give back a little.

 

And if your putting your "stuff" out there......

 

It is my business.

 

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...but nothing. I'll count for as long as as I need to. If that is for the rest of my life that is what I will do.

I don't know Mike, but am looking forward to it.  I like janicke.  Whoever it is.  

Nice try RRG. But it has nothing to do with you. Focus on yourself, rather than others. Thanks

Between TC, Big papa Johnny and ziptard, they can drive this sober mess of a thread to a hundred by 1pm

I wonder if I know this Janicke person.

Keep the streak going Zip....can't knock someone getting healthier 

Nice try joe.  You should follow your own advice. Thanks.

Not sure if the crisis center would be such  a good idea.

Man, you wouldn't believe the improvement in clarity and energy I have now. Beer and liquor were literally killing me.

Follow my own advice? Zippy was a walking mess for many years and turned his life around. That is awesome. Thanks

No joke. I would be dead if I had not quit drinking on September 7, 2013. Saved my life that day.

Just a thumbs up on 1200 Days....even though I can't spell, write a sentence or punctuate properly

>>>>>In fact I think he should try to find a job doing something more constructive than flipping burgers.

40 million service workers trying to survive and RRG thinks they're worthless. 

 

Congrats Zip, that's fantastic.

Now that you've been saved,

What are you going to give back?

 

He is already giving back RRG. Showing people hope. Again mind your own business. Thanks

It's never too late to take some adult education classes, Capt. Trips. I plan on eventually going to an IT school.

Been using computers since 1980 in the first grade. Saw an add for a company that will create and operate a

business page on Facebook for $10 a month. They post for you, generate likes, basic customer service.

I can do that shit. Lots of people can't even create a Facebook page much less copy and paste something.

40 million service workers trying to survive and RRG thinks they're worthless. >>>>

 

Yep and there will be a whole lot more after Trump is in office for a year.  This is why it is important to raise the minimum wage.  That's not going to

happen with Trump in office.  We are screwed.  Trump would like for the population to be poorly educated, and addicted to alcohol.  Easier to control 

the people when they are ignorant, and fucked up.  

Why would you knock a person for flipping burgers? What is wrong with you? Get off that high horse RRG. Thanks.

$9.75 minimum wage in Alaska but everything is more expensive up here. They have to ship a lot

of products up from the lower 48. At least minimum wage goes up every year now.

I bet you ate a lot of burgers after all those dead shows in the 80's RRG.

Yep, you win again...do not want to bother you about life skills.... but FYI, its all about $

"Me, me, me....look at me!!! It's me! I woke up in a beautiful world of my own today! I love me, don't you? Look at ME!! Behold, I've got nothing but me...as far as I see."

Telling folks to "shut the fuck up" for expressing a harmless opinion? Naughty, naughty. LOL

Ship Of Fools.....

 

I actually think that Zippy has more to offer than " just flipping burgers"

because of what he has seen and been through.

He should rise up EVEN FURTHER, and continue to challenge himself.

In the meantime,

Volunteering is a great resume (and character) builder.

 

 

 

 oh, and...

I gave up eating meat in 80's

Fast food is disgusting and is fucking up our environment.

 

You boys have a nice day. smiley

Gravy, if ya can't love yourself who can you love?

What if you ONLY love yourself, Zippy? Where's that get you?

I am surrounded by love, my man. It's not by accident.

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Sweet non-sequitor, baller.

...and you wonder why people call you a troll. Back on ignore you go.

" make good money $5 a day, make anymore I might move away"

Reality=Zippy's troll

Nobody calls me a troll, because they'd be wrong and they know it.

I'd rather be literate than rich. 

All the rich people I know are highly literate. Not either/or, baller.

Tell that to ole Capt. up there. Not everything revolves around you, Dogfood.

Derp.

)))))The Zippy Zone((((

I bet you love it when a 3 year troll plan comes together.

Well thats just simply stupid....and I needed to say that, sure you would rather be when rich is not an option....funny

Tell the truth, Zippy,  was "Fuck you, pay me" inspired by Thoreau?

My quarter ran out.....game over

Could you try that again in English? Either way you are no fun to talk to. 

Interesting thread though. The next one will be even better.

janicke will probably start going after jambone soon...

Somehow I think your still drinking because a clear brain would not go off on the tangents that you do....but that is just my opinion 

>>>>I actually think that Zippy has more to offer than " just flipping burgers"

 

making pizza?

selling shaved ice?

hot dogs? 

Brewing Coffee? 

Selling overpriced flat brims and basketball shoes?

gold and diamond thief er dealer

real estate? 

Wall Street? 

Ambulance chaser? 

Unless you just have mental illness 

selling shaved ice?

In Alaska? Coffee mo' betta'

Lots of "joe lurkers" here. 

This thread is starting to grow legs.

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This thread is starting to grow legs.

That's just the body lice.

>>>>Nobody calls me a troll, because they'd be wrong and they know it.

 

>>>>That's just the body lice.

 

Contradicting yourself in the same thread. Way to be, Dogfood.

Like you don't have lice...

And, baller, you're going to need to invent a new nickname b/c Dogfood is another Zoner. Maybe you saw him posting cum rag pics?

>>Back on ignore you go.

12 more back-and-forths...

>>Contradicting yourself in the same thread. Way to be, [Zippy].

 

Great to have you back, lil' buddy.

You will always be Dogfood to me. Generic Dogfood at that. I'm the one who coined the name and someone went with it.

Gravy I guess you missed it.  Zippy went six months without a shower because of a coke addiction.  This caused him to have body lice.  Well he was probably fornicating with hairy legged women at the same time.  I don't care if Zippy flips burgers, or joins Trump's cabinet.  I can tell from his posting he is doing better than a couple years ago.  Why must Zoners troll.  Give him some props for the improvement.  

I hope you enjoyed that, Chris. I was willing to give you another chance. You blew it. Have fun talking to yourself, dickhead.

Don't call me a dickhead Zippy.  I am in your corner, and would like for you to be in mine as well.  

Oh God.... you guys have to be kidding, not

You call giving Gravytroll ammo like that being in my corner? What was the purpose of posting that story here in my

sobriety thread? You saw he was trolling and stalking me. Eat a bag of dicks, Chris. Not cool at all. You are dead to me.

lol zippy

Captain I am not kidding.  Zippy was piled on last Friday I believe.  People are real bad asses when posting on a message board.  You would not

think they would need the gang mentality, but they do, and they use it.  Why can't people just chill the fuck out?  When a man is down I don't come

in from behind, and kick him while he is down.  

As brought up before by Zip, why waste bandwidth.... you know that I know that you know

Never thought you were kidding

Fine Zippy put my furniture on the porch.  I am coming to get it, and don't even try to come outside.  There will be no parting hugs.  Yes some tears

will be shed, but this isn't working out.  :(

Fine Zippy put my furniture on the porch.  I am coming to get it, and don't even try to come outside.  There will be no parting hugs.  Yes some tears

will be shed, but this isn't working out.  :(

As an FYI, one may not refer to eating dicks without posting the accompanying ASCII art.

^^and this folks is the perfect example of what alcohol does to the brain. Instant asshole. Thank you for reminding me

why I quit drinking, Tulsa. Dick move.

Zip, I'm not sure it's in good form to accuse every asshole of being a lush. Some people are just assholes.

BK I resemble that remark.  

I so fucking need that ignore feature right now.

Ignore feature?

*toke*

I thought it was installed in your frontal lobe?

Dickhead posting? 

 

*spit*

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Drink up, trolls. Jealousy because you have no self control much?

Hoover I am going to keep count of how many people you troll today.  I love you bro, but Viva is no place for all this trolling.  :(  Yes you just scored another troll point with your comment to Zippy.  I will also count how many posts you make in good taste.  A fun experiment.  The results will not

be shocking to anyone.  

You are the troll, Chris. Grow the fuck up already. 

Zippy, besides myself, Hoover, Gravy, BrianK, Judit, RRG, Mikee, Turtle, Troubador, Trumpcuntry, Nedb, Fish, Markd, StMark, Coyotte, Racket, Captain and Tulsa, who else do plan to you use the ignore feature for?

WTF is that supposed to be in the glass? Spiders?

admin: I'd like to see an "embolden" feature.

Maybe get alerts on the old iTouch when my favs post?

That was low Zippy.  You will not be getting the ring back.  I have already pawned it, for 20 bucks.  A real diamond my ass.  

Google dude, I have no problem with 3/4 of the people you listed. In fact you aren't even on the list. I'd say maybe

three people on that list will be ignored. Thanks for the bump, stalker.

We're here to bump for you, baller...

"Eat a bag of dicks" is a vulgar sexual comment and is a blatant disregard for the rules here. Right?

McDoobie from what I have learned it all depends on who post said comment.  

"Rudy_McDoobie" is slang for cocksucker, right?

I thought you weren't going after people on the new PZ, Zip?

Zippy even though you have broken my heart today.  I am going to tell you to chill out right now, or a banning could be eminent.  

Imminent...

Nope. It's a reference to a song by the Specials.

>>> you aren't even on the list.

I guess I have misinterpreted what being done with someone means. lol

415-692-1053Zippy on Thursday, December 15, 2016 – 07:24 pm

Pot meet kettle. I'm done with you. .

This thread isn't fostering a kind sense of community. It should be pulled for the good of all.

I do not care, Tulsa Piss. I posted a thread celebrating my sobriety and a handful of people including you shit in it.

If I get banned for reacting so be it.

If by "Specials" you mean cum dumpster piece of shit then yeah. I agree.

You can only bully someone so much before they react.

Zippy just ignore it.  

Fuck you. Just don't post it. I was celebrating a huge milestone for me and you decided to play your troll games. 

Zippy I haven't posted anything to you that was meant to be hurtful.  I haven't posted anything that breaks the rules either.  I simply want to have Viva be a fun place, that takes

your mind off of stress in the real world, and have some laughs with other Zoners.  I am not posting to hurt anyones feelings.  I love all Zoners.  That is what makes this place 

interesting.  The variety of personas here.  

Zippy pushing a 4.1 here today.

Beats looking for work, I guess. 

Telling a troll who is hurling insults at me about one of my lowest points in my life does hurt me, dipshit. Posting that story in

a thread about my sobriety is very hurtful. You saved that shit for the right moment to discredit me.

Get a fucking clue, Chris. There he is again stalking me. What was your purpose???

You posted that story yourownself a few days ago, Zippy. It was a different "Look at Me!" thread of yours. Remember, when you give protips on how to camp in GG Park?

I don't think Zippy's skin has grown thick enough for the zone yet...

That wasn't my thread, Fuckstain. It was Chris's thread. I made the mistake of posting in it. Now chock on a dick.

Self-Congratulatory Thread By Polarizing Poster Goes Poorly, Just As Expected: NEWS AT ELEVEN 

>>Now chock on a dick.

Chock full o' cocks?

I'm just sayin, this site hasn't been open three weeks and this isn't your first "sobriety" thread. Now maybe you need all that attention, but I'd point you back to what Jonnyjonjon had to say early on here for words of wisdom

i feel like your day counting is akin to still being quite a slave to alcohol.... like a prisoner marking days in a cell....

 

do you think you could ever completely let go, and truly be free from even the temptation? this, would be true freedom....

These kinds of threads are meant to help me stay sober. It's part of the way I cope with my addiction. If you can't skip

by a thread without posting that is your problem.

Ahh, the old figure 8 troll.

Well done, Zip

I wasn't trolling, hounder. I'm just trying to stay sober. Bullies can't handle when someone is successful.

Got itwink

carry on

Cumdumpster peice of shit. Yikes!

Tell us again about the rules and how well you are following them. LOL

I got flamed for using bandwidth by Zip, in hindsight, that was funny.....such a long time ago

Tell us again about how you are a bully harassing people on the Internet. You have the mentality of a child.

You got flamed for being an illiterate monkey with a fifth grade education. I also apologized to you and tried to bury the hatchet.

Now that you've decided to gang up on me with the rest I rescind that apology. Learn to read and write, grandpa.

Still a victim.

Still obnoxious.

 

Seems like getting sober never helps those with those issues, for some folks.

BrianD I see you, and you are not being helpfull.  Does it make you feel better about yourself to give Zippy shit?  If so that is BS.  What has Zippy done to you?  I am asking you this

because I don't understand why you are trolling him.  

I was just fine until you lot started bullying me. I've participated in this community positively for the most part.

That is more then I can say for half the people in this thread. Have you promised a postcard to Fafa's daughter?

Have you offered condolences to the zoner who passed away recently? How about info on moving to Colorado?

No? Well I have. I share what little I have. Most of you just talk shit.

Harassing you? You're high. Maybe skip the cocksucker insults if you can't take a little ball busting.

Eat sh*t, Tulsuck.  

 

I wasn't addressing you.  Do the same.  Thanks.

 

Zip, you came back in full attention whore/obnoxious mode.

 

You can look it up.

Off to the job.  You remember jobs, right?

 

 

^^Know that if we ever meet I'll be busting you right in your cocksucker mouth. That is a promise. You've bullied the wrong person.

Ball busting is reserved for friends and acquaintances. You do not know me well enough to talk shit without consequences.

Really feeling the "Spirit of the Season" in this thread!

If only someone pretending to be a wild rabbit would cite Bible verses....

Zip, you know as well as anyone that you can't control what anyone posts on any thread. 

That said, congrats. And yeah, if you really want, over time your sobriety will be less and less of a daily thought.

It' s all about the bandwidth being used....very disrespectful as per Zip....remember Zippy, or was that just my imagination 

Captain Trips is Kiley or someone similar. It's obvious.

BK, I'm not trying to control anything. I just want to be left alone. I don't go around stalking these motherfuckers. Why are they 

stalking me? I'm the one who should have restraint? How about everyone else trashing me and ganging up on me here?

No restraint for them counting days is so offensive?

IMG_0770.JPGThe DERP IS STRONG IN THIS BITCH!

 

Way to go Ziptard.

last time i had a Drink and a Beer

 

2 minutes ago

Wait One minute i am Progress = WooHoo !

 

happy holidays

By the strong zoning job you've done today,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i can see the job search is over.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What local fast food joint won the competition of your services?

 

 

Window or counter?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Back to the Toke?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*stroke!

You've threatened me with physical violence before Zippy. Yawn.

But please let me know when you're back in Cali so I can give you a shot at taking that shit to me in 3D.

So now that Zippy has committed a crime how long before he gets the boot?

Just keep bullying me and you'll be the one removed. How many years have you been stalking me now?

I think its funny some people call this bullying and stalking.john-travolta-pulp-fiction.jpg

Grandpa.....? Oh boy..... so I'm older with life skills....my mistake

People are being dicks to you on your thread. It's not really bullying or stalking.

Trust me, I know what this Innerwebz stalking thing is, and you ain't being stalked.

It's not totally cool, but it's Viva.

Zero years stalking you baller. You flatter yourself.

And I'm not the one posting ridiculous threats either. That's all you genius. I'm sure someone will let me know if/when I do something ban worthy. Until then I hope you continue to enjoy my Zone stylings as much as I do.

I hope you enjoy swallowing your teeth if we ever cross paths. You have been following me around for years.

You threaten to continue. That is stalking. 

looks like this thread is going to set some sort of new bar for viva

Zoner please. We aren't going to meet, you aren't going to hit me, and I'll post when and where I want.

Apparently you have a huge problem with that. Try to get over it, you'll sleep better. 

I'll make it clear for all of you that have posted harassing and mean spirited messages to me in this and other threads.

I want nothing to do with you. Leave me alone. Stop following me around talking shit. This should be the end of it.

I'm not playing this game anymore. The zone is gone. Move on and stop trolling me. That right there should be a rule.

If someone asks you to stop posting to them directly you need to stop.

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If you post in a public forum, people can and will respond. There's nothing you can do about that. If it bothers you feel free to kick rocks.

>>>>We aren't going to meet, you aren't going to hit me,

 

You our better hope so, coward. I'll have you eating through a straw. Leave me the fuck alone.

Good stuff, Doobie. Somebody should quote you more often. 

I'll sleep soundly knowing a Zippy beatdown has about a .00000001% chance of happening.

I commend you!!!

My brother was likely days or weeks from death by alcoholism earlier this year. Yes, thank the universe for cannabis.

For clueless people, alcoholism is a disease...just like cancer. Would you say harassing and mean spirited things to someone who is battling cancer?

I'll take the time to read through and see who the real assholes are and I too will make note to never acknowledge your presence in this lifetime. Perhaps you will learn in other lifetimes.

Keep counting Zippy!

 

If you type:

\ignore{name} 

with the user who you want to ignore where "name" is between the {}, then that person will be ignored 

pretty sure

Well Zippy you kept some of my undies, but I have every thing else loaded up.  Sorry to see you threatening violence.  Stop it or you will get the boot.  

I feel my work here is done, so I leave the thread with a smile. Have a great evening folks.

Thank you, Neal. I am very excited for your brother and his new life. Cannabis is what helped me in the beginning. I still use

weed when I have alcohol cravings. I'm glad a few people see what is happening here and have to balls to speak out.

Alcoholism is indeed a disease and a mental illness. It can be cured with hard work and commitment.

One day at a time.

im having special k flashbacks

honest question zippy.

 

why do you feed these guys?

There are two kinds of people in this world. Those who have been humbled and those who are waiting to be humbled. Seems there are a few here who fall in the latter category. Judgment is a terrible thing. Positivity is a good thing.

So perhaps I shouldn't judge the ignorant comments. 

Love to all.

P.S. It is well documented fact that alcohols are always recovering when sober. The Alcoholics Anonymous Big Book is chalk full of information.

https://www.amazon.com/Alcoholics-Big-Book/dp/1893007170

 

Tulsa, piss up a rope. Leave me alone. You are dead to me with your trolling. You are no better than any other

asshole troll here. You could actually help me but you'd rather play games. Have a nice life. 

Zippy anyone who doesn't think addictions are a disease are simply fucking idiots.  

Zippy we were thinking about each other at the same time.  That is a sign.  You want to get back together.  J/K

Zippy I know a couple of Zoners that spent some time with you, and they both said the same thing.  Not word for word, but close to this:  Zippy was great to hang out with, until I 

wanted to kill him.  

Chris

Yo, chris

Chris, hey

Hey, chris

Chris

Congratulations.

Keep up the good work, Zip.

Congratulations on the sober time. That's nothing to shake a leg at. I bet there is quite a few zoners that could never stay off booze that long 

great work. 

Slacker I am here.  Do you need a life jacket?  Okay I get it, and will never post to you again with the three introductions.  I simply was adding to my name dropping.  

WTF did you want Slacker?  

Chris

Yo, chris

Chris, I don't think I can write as much as Chris. 

That Chris guy averages about 20,000 characters per hour. 

this thread is a mess.

Tulsa Chris writes more than PJ. 

Well I like that better than Ulsa, or piss chris.  

I think Tulsa Chris could write War and Piss in one afternoon.

Piece not piss, chris

Whoa! What going on here. That should say peace not piece piss chris

dude i totally haz canned.

Alcoholism is indeed a disease and a mental illness<< stop blaming alcohol. Blame your parents for having a half ass kid who can't control himself.

 

Of the 200 some odd posts how many are yours zip?

Can you drink one beer a day, OG? 

Alcohol is not a disease. Alcoholism is a disease. It only takes about 10-15 minutes to research and learn this simple fact.

I actually quit drinking beer slack. I haven't been keeping track like Zip has due to having too much going on. Though I enjoy a fine cider or margarita from time to time. Infact I had one last night with CT equinox 

No worries Slacker.  Piss and Chris has been something people have been calling me my entire life.  Peace is much better.  

 

Wow Trumpcuntry that was pretty lame.  No I am not going to get into a troll war with you, but why do you dislike Zippy so much?  One other thing; why do people care about post numbers?  When that one guy posted wall paper over and over again it was annoying.  Can't think of his name right now.  Other than that if people wish to multi post who really cares?  Trumpcuntry you are very abusive at times.  What's up with that?

Good for you OG.  Doesn't sound like it is in your genes.  You are lucky.  

Not that it really matters, but only in the disease model is it a disease. If people subscribe to that model, and the "prescription" that it gives works for them, all the power.

There are other models that work just as well for just as many people.

It's a personal thing, and people need to understand that there isn't only one "right way." There's only the way that works for the individual.

Interesting Brian. Are you talking about drinking/alcohol in general, or are you saying that a true alcoholic doesn't need to subscribe to the "disease model" as long as said alcoholic stays sober? Do you personally know an alcoholic or alcoholics? I ask respectfully and am genuinely curious. I do not profess to know everything about alcoholism. 

i know everything, and the only way iz my way.... deal.

Jon Jon please send the financial statements, so we can start the ass spankings.  

Me daddy always said " I ain't no alcoholic, I'm a drunk! Alcoholics go to meetings."

My uncle, and grandfather said the same thing OG.  Both of them died in their early 50s.  

Just as a point of fact, in AA literature there are many, many references to "recovered" alcoholics. That is the correct term, not recovering. Of course, on any given day one might relapse. IMO, it is truly a daily reprieve.

Severe alcohol abuse definitely does shit to the body, which makes it medical. Not all alcoholics have a physical addiction. Physical addicts go through DTs, and as long as they don't drink afterwards the physical isn't an issue. It becomes 100% psychological. A lot of people use a lot of different types of groups to help. AA and Rational Recovery are very different, but both work. Some do it all by themselves, or just with some sort of therapy. The variable is the person. If they really want to, they will.

A few years back I was researching that swanky Passages Malibu place for a friend, and they don't do the medical model, but rather a whole self model. 

Does it really matter? Whatever works works. I know people who have done it every which way.

Thanks for taking the time to reply. I'm much clearer on what you are saying. I would tend to agree there is not one way or right way, as long as the result is sobriety. May all that struggle find health.

230-plus posts?!   Can somebody provide a brief summary, including significant twists and turns?

 

Congrats, Zippy,  Keep on doing what you're doing

Zippy 1200 days sober.

Much congrats and encouragement.

Some ignorant comments and attention seeking.

Some brief discussion on alcoholism and addiction.

Brief enough?smiley

 

Got It!

 

Cheers!

congrats, josh ~ love and strength for another twelve hundred days.

^

yep

Congrats man.  Keep it going :)

Congrats, zip

 

Quitting anything one is addicted to is no easy feat....

Do you all know that there is a Recovery Folder in the Folder known as Caregivers / Recovery / Gatherings / Personals? Look for it on the main page. It's empty right now, except for a thought about Bruce (Eddieboy).

It's a place to note exactly this kind of achievement, Zippy. On PZ there was a group of folks who showed up when they felt moved; it was a place of support, recognition and congratulations. And no, I'm not saying you have to post there instead of OS, but the reception will always be warm and welcoming.

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^^^^230-plus posts?!   Can somebody provide a brief summary, including significant twists and turns?

 

aint this guy zippy bigger than the PZ itself?

Neither one exists!

Great job zippy.

Keep it up!

Last time I tangled with my demons it was 1-19-95. Lost track of days long ago. Never will forget the date.

By the grace of God I made it through!

For those fighting any addiction, please don't give up the fight.

 

Welcome to 1201

Yup. 1201. I will continue he to count because that is what helps me. My next sobriety thread will be in a few weeks.

Looks like I'm getting the ban folks. It was cool chatting and reconnecting with some of you. Know that the rules Judit posted are

only for a select few. Following people around posting harassing bullying comments is perfectly fine unless Judit has a bias

against the target. This is a popularity contest as it has always been. The rules are not enforced.

If anyone needs to get a hold of me for any reason here is my contact info.

https://facebook.com/travelin4light

[email protected]

Just to seal the deal I stand by my word. If I ever run into that Doodie fag I will be rearranging his face.

Same goes for Trump Cunt. You bullied the wrong person. Watch your back.

https://www.vivalazone.org/rules 

What a joke. Why even bother writing all of that out if the "rules" only apply to a handful of people?

By the way, I would really appreciate if you see what is really happening here to report it to the admin. A couple of people

have stepped forward to speak out against bullying in this thread alone. Please contact admin and let them know.

Are you still threatening me? What a moron. 

Are you still whining after following me around and bullying me? What a cocksucker.

Who's whining? I think your homophobic insults and threats of physical violence are kinda dumb. Hence the moron observation.

Nobody is "stalking" you baller. It's a public forum. If/when people want to address you they will. If that gets you all worked up maybe you should bail.

FWIW: I think your sobriety is an accomplishment and you should be proud of yourself. So there. LOL

Fuck you, asshole. Just keep hoping we never meet.

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>>>Who's whining? I think your homophobic insults and threats of physical violence are kinda dumb. Hence the moron observation.

some have said this to OG before. 

It is only homophobic if you are insulted by it. Must be some truth there.

jeez... someone needs a drink.

Yeah. I could use a drink. There is a liquor store a half mile from here. I choose not to relapse.

I choose life, sanity and health. I hope to never drink again but you never know.

One day at a time.

Nice edit, Baller.

Zippy, is there a time limit on your voicemail line? I may want to drunk dial you later.

Also, could you post the number again? I want to be sure I've got it right.

Dear folks,

Look, here’s the deal. Threats of physical harm won’t be tolerated. Harassment went too far.

This is one of those miraculous Zone threads that went from a straightforward announcement of achievement and success, to threats of physical violence and back to helpful discussions about addiction and sobriety, covering a lot of hurt.  

There was a lot of mean-spirited speech, and it’s not cool. If you need to do that, you need to do it elsewhere.  For real.

The Viva Crew

You let it go too far

so zippy is out because the folks who willingly jumped into the mud with him got upset when they realized they got mud on themselves?

makes sense i guess?

Good for him with his sobriety. But I can't say I'll miss this guy at all. Good riddance to the The Self Righteous! 

I guess that's one attention whore with not much to offer down, several to go?

Is Gravy gone for his threats of physical violence too?

og will be back with a sock

Are they banned or is this the one month time out phase?