1968 Dead Discussion

Grateful Dead

1-17-68

Carousel Ballroom,

San Francisco

SBD>MR>C>D>CD>EAC>SHN

Disc 1 (61:14)

set 1:

1. Lovelight (12:02)

2. stage banter (3:19)

3. //Dark Star--> (4:48)

4. China Cat Sunflower*--> (3:20)

5. The Eleven%*--> (9:46)

6. Feedback (0:59)

7. //New Potato Caboose--> (8:35)

8. Born Cross Eyed*--> (2:30)

10. Spanish Jam* (15:50)

Disc 2 (34:29)

set 2:

1. Beat It On Down The Line--> (2:53)

2. Morning Dew (7:40)

3. Cryptical Envelopment--> (1:47)

4. The Other One--> (3:15)

5. Cryptical Envelopment--> (5:04)

6. Good Morning, Little Schoolgirl (13:49)

*first known renditions as of July 2002

Notes:

--there may be a second cassette generation in the lineage

--first few notes of Dark Star clipped

--splice @ 7:45 in Eleven

--first few notes of New Potato clipped

--splice @ 11:02 in Schoolgirl

part of The Music Never Stopped Project 2002

Thanks to Raoul Duke

edits/encoding by Matt Vernon & J. Cotsman

http://www.archive.org/serve/gd1968-01-17CarouselBallroomSanFrancisco/gd...

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I can really get behind 4 paragraphs of discussion on the 68 gd without calling it primal.... like calling victim angular, it just seems to be what you are supposed to say so kudos for avoiding the cliche. I mentioned this in the other thread, I'm a big fan of the Betty Nelson Organic Raspberry Farm show on 9/2

 

https://gratefuldeadoftheday.com/09-02-1968/

Grateful Dead

Eureka Municipal Auditorium

Eureka, CA

1/20/68

/Clementine>

New Potato Caboose>

Born Cross-Eyed>

Space>

Spanish Jam>

Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) Jam>

Dark Star

Comments from www.deadlists.com

Dark Star cuts off sooner on some tapes in circulation. ****Need to verify if beginning of Clementine

is clipped or not and the length of Dark Star - my DAT tape has it cut off early on, but a cassette I

have goes on for a minute or two longer and then it cuts off too. Need to check if it is Feedback as

I have it labeled or Space as per Gordon. DeadBase lists a Jam > before Clementine, but in the back

they say Jam#, #Clementine and that the tape cuts in on an announcer saying "...crank it up, lay it

down, Grateful Dead". Glenn Gillis says he has the jam and its more like 45 mins (I think the Jam

was not on the GDH and tapes that trace back to it)****

Uploaded 2003/ 01/ 15 by Julian (Jools) Elliott

shntool fix -o shn *shn run by tol 03-02-24, and a new md5-file generated.

http://www.archive.org/serve/gd1968-01-20/gd1968-01-20.mp3

9/2/68 - Grateful Dead

Betty Nelson's Organic

Rasberry Farm - Sultan, WA

Recording Info:

SBD -> Master Reel (Three half-inch four track reels, recorded on Ampex 440) ->

Dat (Tascam DA30/44.1k)

Transfer Info:

Master Dat (Sony R500) -> SEK'D Prodif Plus -> Samplitude v7.02 Professional ->

Cool Edit Pro v2.0 -> SHN (1 Disc Audio / 1 Disc SHN)

Transfered and Edited By Charlie Miller

2/5/04

Setlist:

d1t01 - Introduction

d1t02 - Dark Star ->

d1t03 - Saint Stephen ->

d1t04 - The Eleven ->

d1t05 - Death Don't Have No Mercy (cut)

d1t06 - Cryptical Envelopment ->

d1t07 - Drums ->

d1t08 - The Other One ->

d1t09 - Cryptical Envelopment

d1t10 - Alligator ->

d1t11 - Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) ->

d1t12 - Feedback

d1t13 - Stage Announcements

http://www.archive.org/serve/gd1968-09-02/gd1968-09-02.mp3

There are a few natural developments that occurred in that time frame, including I believe a growing tension among the group pulling in various directions, and tension, as uncomfortable as it can be can also lead to creative growth.

They were also getting more comfortable and prolific with their songwriting and were becoming more experienced playing bigger, longer live shows with much better sound systems (thank you Owsley) but I've always believed that the biggest single change that moved them from a speedy, jangly blues rock band on drugs to true multidimensional psychedelic stormtroopers was the addition of Mickey Hart.

He added rhythmic & dynamic dimensions that dramatically expanded their sound and approach that are noticeable immediately after he joined the group.

Many like to bag on Mickey or minimize his importance to the band, but the Grateful Dead changed fairly dramatically right after he showed up, and I don't think that's just coincidence.

Either way, I do love me some 1968 Dead.

10/20/68 is a groovy listen too...

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Grateful Dead Live at Greek Theatre - University of California on 1968-10-20

by Grateful Dead

Publication date

1968-10-20 ( check for other copies)

Topics

Soundboard, Charlie Miller

Collection

GratefulDead

Band/Artist

Grateful Dead

Resource

DeadLists Project

Set 1

Good Morning Little Schoolgirl  
Turn On Your Lovelight  
Dark Star ->
Saint Stephen ->
The Eleven ->
Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) ->
Feedback  

https://archive.org/details/gd1968-10-20.sbd.miller.9071.shnf

I  1968 Grateful Dead, particularly from a visual standpoint.

All of my favorite posters are from '68.

Yea the poster art of that era just shakes its head at the cartoon bears and doofus skeletons of today. 

66 matters too

Saturday, July 16, 1966

Fillmore Auditorium – San Francisco, CA

Soundboard Recording

You know the way you can’t see the apple tree when you look at the apple seed? You know a fully fruited tree is completely held within the seed, but if you’ve never seen one grow, it can seem like a wild stretch of the imagination to go from point A to point B. 1966 Grateful Dead is like possessing a secret eye in the soil that caught a seed as it sprouted the roots and trunk of what would eventually grow into one twisted psychedelic monster of an apple tree.

In large part, the Dead in 1966 sounded like electrified Bluegrass, in the same way that Dylan was electrifying Folk one year earlier. But while being a well put together Country-Grass-Rock-Blues combo, this 1966 rock act from San Francisco could set a fuse to the sun, bringing forth an explosion of color, sound, and energy that literally wrote the book on Psychedelic Rock.

The Dead spent the year honing their earliest image as a band to be reckoned with, taking their place at the top of the food chain. Even in 1966, the Dead *were* Psychedelic Rock.

Tapes from each segment of the year display a band in wildly rapid development of playing style and tone.

By the middle of the year, they were already a well oiled machine.

To a present day listener, who can easily form a mental picture of the Grateful Dead before ever even traveling down the road of tape collecting, 1966 can sound completely foreign to that picture.

The music sounds very different than that of most any of the following 29 year. Generally, the easiest inroads to 1966 come from the band’s psychedelic masterpieces of the day, Viola Lee Blues, Cream Puff War, Good Morning Little Schoolgirl, and Dancin’ In The Streets.

These tunes reflect forward to the band that was still to come a year or so later, and we tend to latch onto them as examples of the Dead we love back at the beginning.

But in equal parts, an enormous degree of magic resides in the band’s “singles” – songs like Don’t Ease Me In, Cold Rain & Snow, I Know You Rider, Beat It On Down The Line, Sitting On Top Of The World.

These songs burst with a mountain spring purity, rich with the same intoxicating minerals that were being set aflame in the longer “jams” of the day.

So much a part of the fabric were these songs, that it should come as no surprise that we saw them all return in full force at the end of 1969 when the band “went acoustic.”

Once you are able to tune your ear to the thematic undercurrents being first explored here at the beginning, the music from 1966 opens up like a magic land before you, undeniably connected to all the years after.

But it’s worth it, and I’ll offer you an easy in here.

July 16th, 1966 at the Fillmore Auditorium. This show, nestled in the center of the year, typifies 1966 Dead beautifully. Good bits are featured in Birth of the Dead, the 2-CD set included in the Golden Road Box Set official release.

As was the case for most nights in ’66, the Dead split the night with one or more other acts.

They would play an early set, and then return much later in the evening to close things out. Both sets on 07/16 are top shelf.

But there was often an undeniable difference in energy between these split sets, and 07/16/66 demonstrates this tendency.

Set one is tight, and well played, reaching peak after peak of the Dead’s special brand of Psychedelic Bluegrass Rock.

But set two is a white hot blast furnace, defining the West Cost psychedelic scene in 1966.

It operates at a level above the first set, which was already pretty high to begin with.

Listening to the second set, you can completely hear how dangerous this band was – forging a mesmerizing does of life altering music into the hearts and minds of the Fillmore audience.

It is this music that demonstrates the rationale held by those oldest ‘heads who say that in many ways, it was all downhill after 1966 (explored a bit more in depth in “Primal Dead – The Early Years").

One of the things that gave this band such strength goes largely unrecognized, and it was sitting behind everyone else the whole time.

The music of this band rides on the back of its drummer - Bill Kreutzmann.

Billy showed from day one that he is one of the most unsung rock drummers of all time. In this particular 1966 show, he and Bob Weir hold the band together, driving a powerhouse of energy and control, while Phil and Jerry veer and slide into every nook and cranny possible.

This is evident across the entire show, and really shines in the first set on tunes like I Know You Rider, Beat It On Down The Line, and Cream Puff War. In the latter, Jerry and Phil are given total freedom under Billy’s rock solid foundation.

The song finds the group bathing in psychedelic fire, burning pure white ribbons of sound out into the crowd.

Viola Lee Blues shows this beautifully as well. Billy is just so solid, as Jerry goes way way out – completely free to lose every ounce of the song and chord structure while the rhythm section pounds and pounds along.

Phil somehow walks the line between remaining keyed in with Bob and Bill, while stirring his own pot of cosmic colors with Jerry.

Garcia gloriously breaks entire chapters of the Rock-n-Roll Guitar Rule Book written by one of his idols, Chuck Berry.

He allows his footing to become lodged in great fields of misty star light, caught on one note phrases which pulse like quasars, looping in on themselves like climbing vines.

With each passing moment, Jerry gets further and further detached from the constructs of the music.

All the while, there isn’t the overwhelming sense that the band is pushing themselves to get “out there.”

It seems more that they are still in the discovery phase of what “out there” actually meant.

It isn’t until they turn on a dime back into the closing portion of the song, that you fully appreciate just how far out they went. “Far out, man!”

As great as it is to hear Viola Lee here as it is starting to take on the form that it would fully explore into 1967 (we don’t reach the searing whiteout of noise this early in the Dead’s career), it’s actually songs like Don’t Ease Me In, Sitting On Top Of The World, You Don’t Have To Ask, and Cold Rain & Snow that shed light on how this band that could reach the highest of highs.

They had this down! Viola Lee thoroughly satisfies.

But it is after that set two opener where the music really takes over. Don’t Ease Me In possesses every ounce of power culled up by Viola Lee, and it never lets up from there.

And while it is period music – the Dead were key figures in the casting of a musical movement that came to power the Summer Of Love, so there’s no denying this sounds like the mid 60’s psychedelic rock that it was – there is clearly the sense of something enormous lurking behind the band on 07/16/66 as it fires on all cylinders through every moment of their second set.

It’s less in the music being played, and more in the undeniable creative energy that fuels each of the short songs that fill out the show. You can taste the strength as the band rides its own wave.

Schoolgirl features Pigpen completely defying our ability to believe he is just some 20 year old kid, belting out the blues.

Garcia’s solos get all the way into the same mind bending eddies and whirlpools we would come to associate with his playing over the next two years.

Near the end, Billy plays masterfully, driving the rhythm back and forth at times between measures, while the song edges into its more swinging tempo.

Somehow feeling that we want the tempo to stay in that alternate swing, he lets it fly for an extended batch of measures, and it’s wonderfully satisfying.

This, all happening under Garcia’s swirling blues licks. Great stuff.

It’s All Over Now, Baby Blue is hypnotic. We could listen to Jerry sing this song for hours.

The tempo is 1966 fast, but the song emanates a certain aspect of ’66 Dead like no other.

Closing out the tape is Dancin’ In The Streets. Dropping into the solo, Jerry immediately starts playing the Eastern tinged scales, and pushes the tone of his guitar in direction after direction.

Of course, Billy is once again playing a solid beat under everything. Bobby’s rhythm guitar has a throaty moan to it, and the entire song begins sounding Velvet Underground-ish at times.

Then, proving that no year was immune to it, we start hearing the tape approach its final coil around the spool. The tape ends with a harsh cut long before we could have ever wished the band to stop playing.

1966 Grateful Dead is at once a creature unto itself, as well as the clear germination point of everything this band would become over the years.

It provides a critically important layer of musical information needed in every tape collector’s listening pile.

We connect a lot of dots throughout the years. For this five piece band, many of the connective lines begin with points in 1966.

o

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Hey LLTD........'66 Dead

i have some '66 if anyone wants some.

I think playing at the Acid Tests had something to do with it as well.

Let's not forget that Bobby and PigPen were "fired" in the late summer / early fall of 68 but it didn't stick. Thankfully. Apparently the various Hartbeats experiments were not as rewarding as the Grateful Dead with those two onboard. Here's a good writeup on that chapter of the band's history:

"In mid-1968, Pigpen and Bob Weir were briefly kicked out of the Grateful Dead. I’ve written about this in a couple previous posts; but it’s still an episode that’s known more by rumors than facts. In fact, we’re not even sure just when or for how long either Pigpen or Weir were actually out of the band. Ultimately, though, it had a far-reaching impact – not only was it the impetus for Tom Constanten joining the band, but a groundbreaking tour was also canceled as a result, and it also kick-started Garcia’s side projects at the Matrix. So it’s time to explore what happened in detail…"

http://deadessays.blogspot.com/2011/03/1968-firing.html

Great link

"All this, of course, required lots of rehearsal – and the Dead were more than willing to put in the hours of practice.
Lesh said, “The Grateful Dead used to practice all day, for years and years. Used to play every day, the whole band.”
Hart also recalled, “In the old days, we’d wake up every day and play… When we were at the Potrero Theater, we used to go in every day and play. We’d take a lot of psychedelics and play for long periods of time. We’d get into monstrous jams, truly monumental – they had a life of their own, and never lived again.”

The old Potrero Theater still stands. Based on what I've heard & read over the years, I believe the band's metamorphosis into their brilliant "primal" period happened inside those old brick walls.

Sure wish they would have run a tape recorder during those rehearsal sessions.

great pics Lance - I don't think I've ever seen that

In mid-1968, Pigpen and Bob Weir were briefly kicked out of the Grateful Dead. In fact, we’re not even sure just when or for how long either Pigpen or Weir were actually out of the band.>>>  Rumor for this amazing performance is Pen's girlfriend was sick.

Avalon Ballroom 10/12/1968   Pigpen was absent. This show has circulated for years mislabeled 10/13/68   https://archive.org/details/gd1968-10-12.sbd.gans.miller.owen.9385.shnf
Dark Star >
Saint Stephen >
The Eleven >
Death Don't Have No Mercy 

Cryptical Envelopment  >
Drums  >
The Other One >
Cryptical Envelopment >
New Potato Caboose >
Jam > Drums > Jam > Feedback 

From Deadlists.com>>>

Dick Latvala found the master reel in the vault of the complete set 2, which was not in circulation till recently. Dick has said that this is one of his favorites and he calls it "primal Dead".

Before Dark Star: Jerry says "Hold onto your bodies and relax, everybody. Everybody relax for crissakes, everybody just cool it. Everything's gonna be alright. We're gonna play here until, until uh, until we drop." Then Bobby says off mic "you won't remember."  Copy has Bobby saying: "Ok, we're gonna do a, we're gonna do a elementary dance number now. It's a fox trot and it's also a ladies' choice. and uh..." Jerry then says off mic "no, not gonna dance".  After "one man gathers what another man spills" in Saint Stephen, Bobby says "funniest thing I ever heard".  Garcia after Death Don't, "We're gonna, uh, we're gonna just, uh, just stop for about five minutes, and uh, get our hands dry. and then we're gonna play some more. But, but in the meantime, you can do whatever you like, while we're, while we're waiting around." 

^^^^Great show for Saturday morning.   

Everything was higher, guitar tone, garcia's voice, and the people, I like high 

No I'm not.  Who said that. 

I'd love to find a take from the Shrine show on 7/11/68.  They opened for Blue Cheer.  I once saw a SBD that circulates of the Blue Cheer set.  Surely the Dead's set was recorded?   I keep hoping that it may show up as one of Bear's Sonic Journal one of these days.

I'd like to get that Blue Cheer set.  

(((((the old, old new portero))))))

fishcane if that's what you believe the posters of today to be; you ain't seen posters anytime.....since, well.....then?