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...how many more ?!

Awful 

imagine if ISIS had done three mass shootings in a week.

 

>>>>imagine if ISIS had done three mass shootings in a week.

People would be losing their shit and freaking out seeing a terrorist behind every shadow.   Just hope the FBI is on top of these radicals like they have been with the Muslim variety of terrorist and devoting the same amount of resources and manpower to the investigations and trying to stop future attacks.  I am all for freedom of speech but the authorities should be snooping hard on those 4chan and 8chan web platforms and doing some serious deep digging on the people visiting those sites. 

Tough to take down all those crazy white nationalists terrorists...........Let’s start with the the one in the White House

The twat will twitter.

NRA = Republican Party = Accessory To Mass Murder

And when its gonna change my friend, is anybody's guess - fz

Repubs must go the way of the dinosaurs, sooner than later

Shooting minorities is the new GOP strategy to suppress voter output

Where can i find more information about this guy's white nationalist views?

Not a white nationalist but he apparently hated women. One of his victims was his sister, who he was pissed with for dating a black guy. The black guy was also shot but survived. 

You can find out all about it on the internet. 

 

 

>Lassen No Treble No Trouble on Wednesday, July 17, 2019 – 02:08 pm

race relations have never been better in this country. ymmv<

 

 

Still believe this, Lassen?

>>>Lassen No Treble No Trouble on Wednesday, July 17, 2019 – 02:08 pm

race relations have never been better in this country. ymmv<

 

Lol what? It’s hard to keep track of the crazies here even with so few people! 

Always a good idea to bring an AK-47 style weapon with 100 round capacity magazine to a sibling altercation in a crowded public space....

He had made a “hit list” and a “rape list” in high school too so it sounds like his perceived enemies were many

>>>Lassen No Treble No Trouble on Wednesday, July 17, 2019 – 02:08 pm

race relations have never been better in this country. ymmv<

 

Lol what? It’s hard to keep track of the crazies here even with so few people! >

Hey Bucky, remember when you told Bryen to kill himself? Dude, you should look in the mirror and ask yourself why you have so much hate that you would tell a fellow huiman being to kill themselves.

(((Thoughts and prayers for Bucky's mental well being)))

yeah I remember that Lassen. Does this effect your race relations theory at all? I’m Caucasian

I appreciate your thoughts and prayers btw I’ll let you know how it goes. 

Cool. Best of luck Bucky!!!

Thanks Lassen! 

yes Bucky

 

>>>Lassen No Treble No Trouble on Wednesday, July 17, 2019 – 02:08 pm

race relations have never been better in this country. ymmv<

 

no

 

https://splinternews.com/who-said-it-the-el-paso-shooter-or-fox-news-183...

 

>When a white supremacist manifesto allegedly posted by the El Paso shooting suspect first began making the rounds on Saturday night, it was hard not to feel a sense of familiarity.

From a New York Times summary of the manifesto (emphasis mine):

It spoke of a “Hispanic invasion of Texas.” It detailed a plan to separate America into territories by race. It warned that white people were being replaced by foreigners.

Hey, where have I heard that kind of violent extremist talk before? Oh, that’s right: on Fox News, constantly.

A tiny, tiny sample follows. See if you can spot the pattern (emphasis mine throughout):

Tucker Carlson, 7/9/19: 

This cannot continue. It’s not sustainable. No country can import large numbers of people who hate it and survive. The Romans were the last to try that, with predictable results.

Laura Ingraham, 6/18/19 podcast:

No longer can they claim to be for border enforcement, or “Oh yeah, we’re for enforcing the border, oh yeah, we’re for—we’re for keeping the country safe. And oh yeah, we’re not for illegal immigration, we’re for legal immigration”— that’s what they used to say That’s what the Obama folks and the Clinton folks used to say, but no longer. No, you’re for replacing the current American population, or swamping the current American population, with a new population of people who are perhaps more hospitable to socialist ideals.

Tucker Carlson, 5/21/19: 

The American piñata has been getting pummeled for decades and now it has finally come apart. Our national wealth is up for grabs by whomever gets here first, and they are coming. Over just the past year, 1% of the entire population of the nation of Guatemala has moved to the United States. A Wall Street Journal piece last month described the plight of that country’s villages. Some of them are literally depopulating as people stream north to America’s generous welfare state. Meanwhile a new study from the Federation for Immigration Reform, FAIR, given exclusively to this show, shows the scale on which the United States is being plundered.

Tucker Carlson, 12/13/18:

Our leaders demand that you shut up and accept this. We have a moral obligation to admit the world’s poor, they tell us, even if it makes our own country poorer, and dirtier, and more divided. Immigration is a form of atonement.

Fox & Friends, 11/2/18:

When you see a lot of young men carrying the flag of their country to your country to break your laws, it looks a lot more like an invasion than anything else.

Laura Ingraham, 8/7/18:

In some parts of the country, it does seem like the America that we know and love doesn’t exist anymore. Massive demographic changes have been foisted on the American people, and they are changes that none of us ever voted for, and most of us don’t like.

I could go on. This is not some fringe ideology confined to the dark corners of the web. It’s being peddled constantly by some of our highest-profile media figures—oh, and by the president of the United States.

>>>>>This is not some fringe ideology confined to the dark corners of the web.

 

It's in midtown Manhattan.

too bad the guy was a registered democrat & warren supporter

sure pal.

 

>>> too bad the guy was a registered democrat & warren supporter <<<

 

That’s your takeaway from this? Gonna try and “both sides” us, jfc 

yeah because, again, it's "those damn republican mass murderers" non fucking stop

Maybe if NRA supporters weren't mostly Republicans, and maybe if the GOP didn't oppose sensible gun stafety legislation, and maybe if Donald Trump didn't embrace NeoNazi and White Supremacist support, well maybe right wing assholes like Hilman would have a point.  The fact is though that gun violence and mass murders will continue because the GOP/NRA and right wing assholes really don't care. Your right to live free of gun violence is Trumped by their love of blood and guns. They're also fuckin scared of brown people "taking over" this country. And most are misogynistic creeps. see  "toxic masculinity" and "white privilege". 

By Peter Baker and Michael D. Shear

Aug. 4, 2019

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At campaign rallies before last year’s midterm elections, President Trump repeatedly warned that America was under attack by immigrants heading for the border. “You look at what is marching up, that is an invasion!” he declared at one rally. “That is an invasion!”

Nine months later, a 21-year-old white man is accused of opening fire in a Walmart in El Paso, killing 20 people and injuring dozens more after writing a manifesto railing against immigration and announcing that “this attack is a response to the Hispanic invasion of Texas.”

The suspect wrote that his views “predate Trump,” as if anticipating the political debate that would follow the blood bath. But if Mr. Trump did not originally inspire the gunman, he has brought into the mainstream polarizing ideas and people once consigned to the fringes of American society.

While other leaders have expressed concern about border security and the costs of illegal immigration, Mr. Trump has filled his public speeches and Twitter feed with sometimes false, fear-stoking language even as he welcomed to the White House a corps of hard-liners, demonizers and conspiracy theorists shunned by past presidents of both parties. Because of this, Mr. Trump is ill equipped to provide the kind of unifying, healing force that other presidents projected in times of national tragedy.

Hillman doing that faux obtuse thing again.

Or maybe it's genuine.

You Can’t Understand White Supremacists Without Looking at Masculinity

-DAVE GILSON

“These guys believe something has been taken from them that they were entitled to.”

 

Nearly all right-wing extremists have something in common: They’re men. Without addressing this fact, it is impossible to make sense of hate groups or try to eradicate them, argues Michael Kimmel, a sociologist at Stony Brook University who has written several books about masculinity and gender. For his most recent, Healing From Hate, he interviewed former extremists about the psychological and economic factors that drew them into violent white supremacist groups.

Mother Jones: You write that “American white national­ism offers American men the restoration of their masculinity.” How does it fulfill that promise?

Michael Kimmel: These guys believe something has been taken from them that they were entitled to, that they deserved, and it was given to people who don’t deserve it, like immigrants and gay people and women. Joining up is a way to get it back, to restore your masculinity. The white nationalist organizations are fairly explicit in this: “Join us and you feel like a real man. Join your brothers, your comrades. We have a sacred mission to preserve the white race.” All this stuff is designed to say, “I’m retrieving what’s rightfully mine.” The feeling of being emasculated comes from a feeling of entitlement. Entitlement is what fuels the anger and desire to restore what’s “rightfully ours.”

MJ: White supremacy in the United States is nothing new. Is the feeling of emasculation and victimhood that drives men into white supremacist groups unique to this moment?

MK: Almost every one of the guys I talked to was downwardly mobile, lower-middle class. They made a bargain, the bargain of the 1950s: “I will work hard, I will pay my taxes, I will be a good citizen, and in return for that, I—the man, the breadwinner—I alone should be able to support my family and buy a house.” There are economic forces that are depriving these guys of the bargain that their fathers and grandfathers made. Global­ization and neoliberal economics have meant that Walmart has moved in, the mom-and-pop place has closed. All those heavy manufacturing jobs have disappeared—no matter what President Trump promises, it’s a done deal. Now at the same moment that these economic changes are happening, you have all these other groups shouting out for their rights, and these guys feel like, “Well, wait. What about us?”

MJ: What makes one white man become a pissed-off Trump voter and another join a hate group?

MK: Two things turn guys to this movement. First, there’s a conscious and deliberate manipulation of the emotions of despair and confusion by those on the right, who basically massage these emotions into a politicized anger. The second thing is, it has to be experienced as something you’re moving toward. You feel isolated and alone and despairing. You feel like you’re failing your family. Then these guys come along and say, “No, you’re great, you’re awesome. You’re one of us. We are your brothers.” You get community, camaraderie; you get people who are validating your masculinity. Then, of course, the sacred mission of preserving the white race.

MK: The recruitment process is really about emotion. In order to get these guys out, you have to understand the emotional and visceral draw that pulls them in the first place. It’s not the ideology. But I do think one of the big drivers is this economic displacement.

MJ: So to get these guys out of these groups, you have to replace this sense of belonging and masculinity with a different sense of belonging and masculinity?

MK: Of course. I’m not gonna be able to persuade a guy to leave the movement because I say to him, “You know, I think your interpretation of page 156 of Mein Kampf is wrong.” I’m gonna help him by saying, “You have a place to land, you have a place to stand, you have family, you have kids, you have a partner, you have a job.” You become a stakeholder in the system rather than an outsider in opposition to it. You have to give people a place to land...

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/07/men-white-racist-extremism-...

>>>>>“yeah because, again, it's "those damn republican mass murderers”

 

Hillman, you’re  one of a very small number who cares about what party affiliation mass shooters have.  Most of us just want something done about the undeniable gun problem our country has.

Hill of beans

I hope Bryen is ok usually by now he would have posted several YouTube videos that have nothing to do with the thread subject 

Betts had been active on Twitter, where he described himself as an "anime fan," a "metalhead" and a "leftist." The social media company suspended his account after the shooting.

In his tweets, Betts promoted atheism and gun ownership. He sometimes retweeted prominent accounts associated with the political left, replying with expressions that seemed to support the anti-fascist movement and politicians such as Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., and Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt.

 

Hillman, you’re  one of a very small number who cares about what party affiliation mass shooters have.  

Most of us just want something done about the undeniable gun problem our country has.

 

I agree with Hoover on this....

 

EXCLUSIVE: DAYTON SHOOTER WAS IN A “PORNOGRIND” BAND THAT RELEASED SONGS ABOUT RAPING AND KILLING WOMEN

Before he killed nine people in a mass shooting in Dayton, Ohio, early Sunday, Connor Betts was deeply involved in the misogynistic, male-dominated “goregrind” or “pornogrind” extreme metal music scene. It has a regional following in the Midwest and is known for sexually violent, death-obsessed lyrics and dehumanizing imagery depicting women.

Over the past year, the 24-year-old shooter occasionally performed live vocals in the band Menstrual Munchies, which released albums titled “6 Ways of Female Butchery” and “Preeteen Daughter Pu$$y Slaughter,” with cover art showing the rape and massacre of female bodies. He also performed with a group called Putrid Liquid.

 

https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/j5yekp/exclusive-dayton-shooter-was-...

 

 

typical Warren supporter.

ignorance is a great handle - true to your self
typical shmuck

Incel

i thought the sarcasm was blindingly obvious.

guess I was wrong.