Any Disney fans?

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I like Disney

you are Keeping it Weird

“Cinderella Ate My Daughter.”

Satchmo on the Mark Twain

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AYoR9tz7tSs

Legoland is terrible.  It makes Knotts Berry Farm look good.

It's really sad to see radical feminism attacking something that many little girls really enjoy (pretending to be Disney princesses). My little girl recently got her first Disney princess costume, and she loves it.

It's pretty adorable watching her rule over her little plush toy kingdom. I'm teaching her the value of tyranny, how to crush dissent (I'm looking at you, Winnie the Pooh), and the fact that it's much better to be feared than loved as a ruler. 

The plush toys get it. They fall in line, or she casts them out into The Wastelands (if she doesn't just order their immediate execution, which I've also encouraged). It's really rewarding watching her imagination grow; definitely one of the best parts of being a parent. 

I love the crowd. I'm bummed they took out the tree in the middle of the path through Adventureland. It used to create the coolest bottleneck jams of people and it would always be hot and humid. 

Sounds fun, Nanc.

Barbie is clearly a tool of The Patriarchy.

Nothing beats Mickey Mouse in the glass house

When I lived in Florida, my friends and I would go down to Disney World about every month.  We would get locker "666" turn it into a wet bar, and mix drinks and ride the rides all day.  We learned that there are no lines during the Main Street Electric Parade and that was the time to ride all the good rides (Space Mountain and Pirates of the Caribbean) over and over with no wait.

Barbie is bigger than Jerry:

http://www.barbieconvention.com/

Haven't been into Disney since I was a little girl (except for the time I went to Disneyland on acid when I was 18 or 19). They lost me before and after that.

My sister's family (little grandkids and their parents) love Legoland. They've gone twice. I don't think they've gone to Disneyland.

Disneyland is like ren fair or Dickens fair. fun. 

We're planning a few days of food and music, no rides. fun.

$500 bucks a night at the Disney land hotel. 

Disney know’s how to smoke  the adults like cheap cigars.

>>>I dunno about that

If it sounds crazy, that's because it is. Here's a savage 3rd Wave takedown of Barbie from Southwestern University (which 100% sounds like a shitty internet college, but is actually a liberal arts school in Texas.)

"Mattel is often critiqued by feminist scholars who claim that Barbie exemplifies hegemonic beauty ideals and reinforces patriarchy, the normalization of heterosexuality and white imperialism within Western society."

https://people.southwestern.edu/~bednarb/su_netWorks/projects/sternenber...

>>>But I did just google the radical feminist who hosted the barbie bashing party and saw that her video game company which was developed for girls gaming preferences was sold to Mattel in '99

Lol

That's the kind of irony I love. 

From the article^

"The last few years have been tough ones for Barbie. Sales have declined significantly, dropping 16 percent in 2014 alone. In an effort to jumpstart the sagging brand, Mattel has launched a new marketing campaign called, “Imagine the Possibilities.” The signature ad for the campaign features little girls in professional roles in otherwise normal settings: a girl professor in front of a lecture hall, a girl veterinarian attending to a sick cat, a girl coach barking orders at a men’s soccer team."

Barbie sales are down? Well that's totally perplexing.

What imaginative little girl doesn't like to play college lecture with her friends? That's sounds like so much...fun. 

When I was a kid, me & the other boys loved to play Comptroller, Tax Attorney, and my personal favorite, Data Entry Manager!  We'd be out from dawn to dusk filing paperwork and litigating with the IRS. Good times.

>>>Disney know’s how to smoke  the adults like cheap cigars.

^^^^This.    

Disney is an enormous corporation. I generally like the stuff Pixar produces.  But I'd rather cut off a toe than return to one of their theme parks.

I live about 2 hours away from Satans playground.

When I was a kid my parents took us a few times when it was new and fresh and before they raped the adults of thousands of dollars a day for a family excursion. That was when they had ticket booklets with A-E ticket rides, I was the youngest so at the end of the day my siblings would screw me out of all my D and E tickets and a few C tickets too. I was stuck with a shit load of A and B tickets that were good for a horse and cart rides or some other lame activity.

Then I got older in my late teens to early 20's.

A friend of mine showed us how to sneak in for free. It was fuckin on!!! There was a few occasions when 20 to 25 of us would get in at a time. Once my sister refused to be part of the sneak ins and we all had to wait on her to go through the gates as it took less time to get in not paying.

Disneyworld is made for LSD. We would go at least 2 times a month for a handful of years sneaking in when the gates would open and take copious amounts of candy and handfuls of boomers. There was a ride called Mr. Toads wild ride, we renamed it Mr. Toads wild line. You would pass the same people in the line 20 times before you got on, it was so hard to control yourself sometimes.

The best part of dosing there is all you needed was a water fountain and an ice cream bar in the afternoon, as we all know you cant eat on L we didn't spend a whole lot of money there.

Plus when they bought all the land in Central Florida and developed the land the totally fucked up the natural water flow from North Florida to lake Okeechobee. They have spent a shit ton of money trying to fix this error and it is still not like it was before they built.

Disneyland Paradise Piers rooms available for $300.

>>>>>The Disney Princess brand suggests that a girl’s most valuable asset is her beauty, which encourages an unhealthy preoccupation with physical appearance.

I can see how that is a turn off for the uglies out there.  Fortunately my wife and I passed on some great genetics to our kids and they are much better looking than the average schlub so it’s not something for them to worry about.

did it as a teen...but dosing at disney does not sound like a good time anymore...

rip electric light parade...

I doubt there are any parents that watch Cinderella with their kids and tell them the moral of the story is to look pretty.

>>>they are much better looking than the average schlub

lol, Fresno.... That and $5 will get them a cup of coffee. 

Disney “princesses” and “Barbies” all have to be rescued by men. Pass.

>>>Disneyland Paradise Piers rooms available for $300

And your fake pier experience is still 50 miles from the real ocean! What a joke that is for inland dwelling fools. 

It's really sad to see radical feminism attacking something that many little girls really enjoy (pretending to be Disney princesses)<<<

Kennedy's

Bush's

Clinton's

The last of which contained "Hillary" ... what are the statistical odds of a First Lady becoming POTUS in a genuine merritocracy?

While Disney princesses might be cute / fun / etc.  they are nonetheless reflections of a remnant that has morphed into something insidious in our political landscape.

>>>>>And your fake pier experience is still 50 miles from the real ocean! What a joke that is for inland dwelling fools. 

Newport Beach is 20 miles away. 

>>>>Disney “princesses” and “Barbies” all have to be rescued by men

There he is getting it wrong again.  That’s our 6ravy.

I’m very confident you’ve got it wrong, barmaid. 

I grew up in NB, so I know where it is, Slax, thanx. Nobody’s riding a beach cruiser from Anaheim to Balboa Pier, trust me. May as well be in different states. 

6ravy, you’re wrong about Disney Princesses needing to be rescued by men.  That hasn’t been the case for 20 years now.

Nancy, that hasn’t been a theme since Mulan in 1998.

Haha...Timmy’s gonna fuck up more than just his own life! We are trying to help you, if only you’d pull the pompous ass

out of your ear holes. 

>I grew up in NB<

may explain some things...

having raised 2 girls within 30mins of the park..i have some experience in this area...

you know...you can deny or pretend that the disney world doesn't exist, but most likely, your kids will be influenced by their peers and ostracized if you are too over the top with the anti-disney deal. it will probably backfire. girls DO love to play dress up, and all that. there's no getting around it. you can let your kids be exposed to the fairy tale, but you can also let them know its exactly that...

6ravy, which Disney princesses have needed to be rescued by a man in the last 20 years?

Because you said

Disney “princesses” and “Barbies” all have to be rescued by men

No Turtle, they’re right.  I shouldn’t let my daughter enjoy something she really likes because 6ravy and Nancy think the characters are unrealistically good looking.

Easy, Turtle. Or I’ll have to remind the group you’re a nonnative NJ transplant. An invasive species, if ever there was one  

And Hoover, it’s the thought (or lack thereof) that counts. Looks schmooks; dime a dozen. Everybody looks like a movie star in SoCal. 

>>>It's really sad to see radical feminism attacking something that many little girls really enjoy (pretending to be Disney princesses). My little girl recently got her first Disney princess costume, and she loves it.

It's pretty adorable watching her rule over her little plush toy kingdom. I'm teaching her the value of tyranny, how to crush dissent (I'm looking at you, Winnie the Pooh), and the fact that it's much better to be feared than loved as a ruler. 

The plush toys get it. They fall in line, or she casts them out into The Wastelands (if she doesn't just order their immediate execution, which I've also encouraged). It's really rewarding watching her imagination grow; definitely one of the best parts of being a parent. 

Gold from St. Mark.  9.8

Gravy, how many pairs of Black Flys do you own? 

Is your cruiser all matte black? 

Does a sea lion bark for itself alone?

6ravy wears Maui Jim’s and wears Dockers to the dock.

Gravy, did you go to Newport Harbor? Did you know the Oswalds? 

And then...?

Asian Prince thinks the Princesses can rescue themselves, but would offer a helping hand, if asked nicely.

>>>Dockers to the dock.

Haha, yes. The ol' Dockers on the dock meme.

A classic.

Dockers shorts have a dedicated phone pocket, so you won’t lose it overboard when digging out your rigging knife. 

If you’re landlocked, you wouldn’t understand. 

nj isn't so bad. i prolly should have stayed...

newport however is arguably the worst coastal city in all of california...

>>so you won’t lose it overboard when digging out your rigging knife. 

attach your rigging knife to a string.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_incidents_at_Walt_Disney_World

>>>Dockers shorts have a dedicated phone pocket, so you won’t lose it overboard when digging out your rigging knife. 

Yes, Gravy; we're aware of your enthusiasm for Dockers. 

>>>If you’re landlocked, you wouldn’t understand. 

You're right; I wouldn't pursue a hobby that requires me to wear Dockers. I have dignity.

I did some research and found my wardrobe is most suited for Curling.

How about Universal Studios Orlando? When they got the cash cow Harry Potter a few years ago i thought tables might turn.

Disney has Star Wars on the upswing, advantage Disney.

We love WDW but can't afford to stay on property any longer. Next year i'm renting a car and staying at a reasonably priced hotel in Orlando and driving to the disney parks and to Universal.

I could do an informative thread on my trip experience?

Peer pressure in schools is a bigger problem than a Disney Princess, imo..

Dockers are very high quality and quite stylish.

There's a great picture of Fog wearing a stained t shirt, ovetsized basketball shorts, and a pair of moccasins (fogcasins) at a fast casual restaurant in DC with Tulsa Chris.

Schlub.

I'm ALL ABOUT Lilo and Stitch.  Greatest Disney characters ever! (I dont care what people say, Lilo is my favorite princess!)

>>>>>Dockers are very high quality and quite stylish.

Why do you wear basketball shorts all the time like a middle school kid?

 

1 Walt Disney Parks and Resorts Musician Salaries. Walt Disney Parks and Resorts Musicians earn $55,000annually, or $26 per hour, which is 56% higher than the national average for all Musicians at $31,000 annually and 10% lower than the national salary average for ​all working Americans.

hahahaaa, fun

Mark, how about you go hangout at the Overdressed Hipster Chatroom and stop poaching all the DBMB's.. That shirt was not stained, lies.

Slacker, you need to get out of cali man its warping your reality. Only middle school kids wear mesh shorts?

>>>Only middle school kids wear mesh shorts?

yes

Gravy probably doesn't own one pair. 

Slacker, back east it’s common for grown men wear gym shirts and sweats in public. 

Disney princesses don't make fun of the pool cleaner. 

why do you two make people so upset?

Gravy probably doesn't own one pair.>>>

Probably not. I don't own any dockers either.

If i'm actually playing basketball are basketball shorts appropriate? Actually i'm getting back into playing basketball and golf.

Don't play golf in shorts that don't have pockets. 

There was an accusation of sweats being worn at a show, got very heated. That was a west coast show btw.

>>>You boys seem way too concerned about clothing and what other people think of your clothing choices

Your thread is about girls dressed as princesses. 

lol

Why do feminists dislike feminine beauty so much?

Serious question, thanks is advance Nanc.

...

Girls don't want to be lower or working class. 

I hate Disney, not the movies, just the parks and all of the traffic and tourist, hillbillies from all around the world, not tipping servers, and not wearing deodorant, stinking up the joint, with their fucked up teeth and unruly children. That song, it’s a small world, I hate that too

Of Course as a Kid went to disneyland anaheim ca from 1969 thru the 70s and 80s They Use To have Disneyland Fun Day where you Saw a California Angels dad running The Big "A" game ( so cal bill ) then Went to Disneyland afterwards Original Pirates People Mover Carousel of progress haunted mansion submarines tea cups AND Mr Toads WildRide !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E60nt-_f6Sw

^^^How are we supposed to unsee that, Turtle?

^^^How are we supposed to unsee that, Turtle?<<<

Will EWWWWWWWWW Suffice ?

Which is worse parenting; letting your kids watch Disney or raising little porkers like Honey Boo Boo?

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>>>'feminine beauty’ mean different things to different people. If you’re talking about superficial beauty, I don’t have a problem with that so long as it isn’t an unhealthy obsession. Beauty comes in many forms and there are many different versions of beauty standards. Skin deep, ya know?

Fair enough. I appreciate you answering my question, Nanc.

As a parent to a little girl, I don't really worry about what toys she's playing with or which Disney princess she likes, because assuming things stay exactly the way they are right now, girls of my daughter's generation are more likely to attend college, get a Master's degree, never work a dangerous job, have a lower suicide rate, command a higher salary out of college, and make up the majority of management positions in corporate America. That's actually how things work here. 

So yeah. I'm cool with Cinderella. 

http://yrnf.gop/

mmmm stinky

I feel like the odds are definitely in her favor, and I am very skeptical of the disorders you listed and their actual causation (although you do concede they only affect a small percentage of women, which seems fair and probably accurate). 

That's not to say I don't understand that mental illness affects women at a higher rate than men (I believe the CDC cited a 25% mental illness rate for US women recently).

In other words, bitches be crazy.  I assume this is not breaking news to any man over the age of 14. 

Do you like pop stars, Nancy? Any favorites?

https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2018/08/lady-gaga-is-using-the-streets-...

Nanc, I'd like to break character for a moment and point out that the flagrant misogyny at the end of my last post was actually designed to inspire a reaction from a zoner who isn't you.

You know that I genuinely hold your zoning in high regard, and obviously I would never bait a trap for you with something so low brow and obvious. 

That is all.

It's pizza port Wednesday....

So while many understand that physical beauty is indeed only skin deep, some feminists believe that Cinderella pontificates a notion that pretty woman R rewarded for their physical appearance.  Another approach to said subject states that better looking people (male or female) do ‘better.’  Society may set false standards for attraction, still looking good seems to benefit those who R considered attractive. 

Sleeping Beauty promotes rape culture because the princess doesn't grant the prince enthusiastic consent before he kisses her. Consider that before you visit Disneyland.

Off topic, but it's outrageous that Auqanan is being played by that super jacked dude with the underwater bro tattoos. Why can't a normal guy like Steve Buscemi play Auqaman?  

So many little boys out there are suffering the traumatic effects of seeing superheros played by men who actually look like superheros. 

The Patriarchy hurts us all, guys. Lets not forget that.

>>>>>Many ‘successful’ women who are college educated  develop eating disorders

If either of my kids end up with an eating disorder rock climbing would probably be more to blame than Disney.  I don’t intend to stop climbing with them either.

>>>>>>I know, it's more fun to make light of the topic and mock feminists and the research.

Im not making fun of feminism or or the research.  I’m just not worried about Disney ruining my daughters life because I know that my wife and I are raising her to respect herself and others.

I do appreciate your and 6ravys concern for her though.

>>>>>assuming things stay exactly the way they are right now,

Always a good assumption.

Sorry if I upset any schlubs

Nanc, I've been glancing over the study you posted from APA, and I'm not seeing anything from "Disney princess culture" mentioned or even alluded to.

The study you cited seems to be focused on sexualized images of adult women, and how exposure to adult media & advertising could be harmful to kids, particularly in causing what the study calls "self objectification" in girls.

I'm not really disagreeing with the study's basic common sense (little kids probably shouldn't be watching hip hop videos with a bunch of naked women twerking in a hot tub, derp); but again, I don't see anything about Disney princesses (or, um, "culture". Why is everything a "culture" now?) in the study.

Doing a bit of my own research on the Disney princess thing over the past few days, I've noticed two prevailing themes from the feminist literature on the topic:

1.) Disney princesses are harmful to girls because they embody feminine ideals of beauty.

2.) Disney princesses are harmful to girls because (often) a prince comes to the princess' rescue, and we don't need no man.

This is interesting, because I would argue two points about self-identified academic feminists (who are, btw, only a small minority of women. Less than 20% here in the US, for example. Less than 10% in other parts of the West like the UK).

1.) Feminists resent attractive women.

2.) Feminists resent men.

That seems to be the agenda, if you will, of modern, gender studies credentialed feminism. Most women & men (rightly) think that this virulent form of radical feminism is bat shit crazy. There's nothing wrong with feminine beauty, and there's nothing wrong with complimentarianism between the sexes. 

OK- I've got two comments, not that after all this discussion anyone might really care-

1: I never went to a Disney park until I was 51 years old. I enjoyed Anaheim far more than I expected to.

2: My (now 18 y/o) daughter passed over many of the Disney princess phases, but really latched on to Mulan, perhaps because she was the hero, didn't really need a man, and cross-dressed. At her HS grad party, she and a couple of her friends enthusiastically sang "I'll Make A Man Out Of You", repeatedly and with much glee. Of course, these are theater kids who all also had a regular Thursday night date to watch RuPaul's Drag Race.

I feel sorry for Ripplen and your child.  5150?

by the way, the little girl is adorable

Honestly, nanc...your recent accusations and overall posting are a total mess playing out right in front of everyone.  Lashing out in all directions and thinking you have a grip on what's going on in general.  You abandoned the crazy mistruths in the other thread because you know it was a complete lie and you looked foolish.

Keeping it unhinged.

take a lap

Super adorbs, Turtle.

Can somebody photochop a picture of noted feminist nut job Andrea Dworkin taking that little girl's balloons, screaming something about "smashing da patriarchy!!!!", and gnawing on her bright, beautiful little princess face?

That would be awesome. Thanks.

Trolling?  Hmm, you would know.  Haha, a curse word.  So, let's have it nanc?  Did Lulu speak to you about my brother whom she doesn't know?  Where did you have this conversation?

You are so transparent.  Let's face it, you're menopausal on a drug band message board stirring a big old pile of shit.  Game over.

>>Did Lulu speak to you about my brother whom she doesn't know?  Where did you have this conversation?

Put on your mom jeans and answer the question.

>>We can chat about your family another time, perhaps after your nap time

Sweet edit and nice deflection.  Admit it nanzi, you're a proven liar.

Hate to interrupt the sweet dialogue going on now, but may I introduce another topic of concern the pretty picture reminds me of?:

Mylar balloons

Those things ought to be illegal. Straws and plastic bags are now banned in my town and the trend is growing wider, but you can't sail across the channel without seeing fucking mylar balloons floating in the ocean and they'll never biodegrade. 

do you  pick them up out of the ocean?

I’m with ya Gravy.  We don’t do any balloons or glitter.

>>do you  pick them up out of the ocean?

Yes, when possible, but it's not always as easy as it sounds.

>>We don’t do any balloons or glitter.

Ugh, glitter. Don't get me started on that either.

And nice to know your G-key isn't permanently broken, too, Hoover.

One of Gravy's most beloved nicknames is The Skipper.

>>>>>>>And nice to know your G-key isn't permanently broken, too, Hoover.

Yeah Gravy, i May owe you an apology.  You’ve never really been as insufferable as 6 (even when you’re trying : )

I got a little number happy when Hall coined Fo6.

Mulan has the gayest songs ever ever written, performed, and recorded by man. No sir, I don't like them. 

Alice has some of my favorite songs of all time. 

The Sea Maiden was supposed to kill her her prince to get her voice back, but instead, for the love she felt for him, she balked and became the foam on the sea. 

Do you know who was born from that love and that foam? Venus, Aphrodite, the Goddess of Love. 

Dysney sure missed out on a sequel there.

The Indian scenes in Pan sure are fucked up.

I pick this one: 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qhwXgvOfJc8

Or any Studio Ghibli. 

Gilligans Island is a American treasure.

The back cover of the Sex Pistols "Great Rock & Roll Swindle" lp.

You're funny Nanzi!  Please tell the group when you spoke about my brother to Lulu.  Go ahead and get it over with...do you know my brother's name?

>when Hall coined Fo6.<

we covered this yesterday....

You brother plays for the Cubs? Did he go to Disneyland after the series? 

>>>>>we covered this yesterday....

You're right.  My bad.  Credit goes to Turtle.

Attention nanzi!  That is not my brother it's Anthony Rizzo.    You're too much!  Just concede. 

Again, when did you talk to Lulu about my brother?  Lol, I'm not melty at all.  You're wrong, so admit it.  You don't owe me nada so let's try not to pretend you know anything.

That was my brother in the Cubs jersey?

Who needs tix folks?  My brother Anthony Rizzo!

Yeah, so funny!  Looks like you're having egg on your face for dinner!

congrats!

Who’s the kid in the OP?

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/disneybounding-ideas-for-disney-lov...

Where does Bondage Barbie rate in this scathing critique?

My sister is a psychologist with her own practice. She only treats women. She's doing quite well for herself. Anyone in this thread need her number?

Tell her hounder sent you and you'll get 1/2 off your first session.

You've reduced it all down to the absurd, Nancy. It applies to all people. 

Magical !

Who needs tix folks?>

Slacker needs four tickets to Disneyland.

The best part about Disneyland is that everyone wants to be there. 

>everyone wants to be there. <

the hell they do.

Everyone there wants to be there. 

Yeah, no way, Slax. You got it wrong there.

I’ve merely tolerated it for my kids sake. But even they were underwhelmed. 

If you don't want to be there, why are you there? 

its nice people are not blowing cig smoke in your face any longer.

while i do agree with most of nanc's narrative...it is interesting as mark pointed out above. boys in our society are also under societal pressures...be good at sports, be "manly", be successful, and our own set of sexual expectations....

>>>>>I’ve merely tolerated it for my kids sake. But even they were underwhelmed. 

How old were they? What would they rather do at the time? 

I will double down since this is a Disney thread

https://www.visitorlando.com/magicaldining/

For one month the local restaurant s around Orlando put on a magical menu for $35.00 a ton of great places,

Disneyland is going to serve alcohol in Star Wars Land, but you have to drink in the cantina. 

Thats a sly trick to get all the drunks in the cantina to buy more stuff they don't need.

Everyone needs stuff to look at and remind us of the best of times. 

Knots, do they serve beer in the Tiki Room?

No. Just Dole whips and floats. 

Bummer man

Not even a Pina Colada?