> Dropping the bombs ended the war - saved millions of lives.
I understand that, but those saved lives don't render the use of the bomb, and the omnipresent threat of its use for the last 79 years, any less atrocious.
A lot of them seem abnormally angry. I don't recall my grandparents generation (Silent) being so irate but perhaps I was too young to notice.
Did the Reagan Administration bake an unhealthy me-first idealism into their populace? Did the bifurcation of cable news programming add fuel to their predetermined tendencies and fears?
I think that before internet and cable, we all watched basically the same feeds and had disagreements based on that common intake. Now, we don't even give time to the other side, we listen in an echo chamber only to our side then try to argue on non common points. It doesn't work.
Would you post "Blacks - the worst race or simply misunderstood?: ?
I don't believe that, but if I did, I sure wouldn't post it.
I was taught since before kindergarten that you don't dis a person or a group for something they have no control over - like the color of their skin, their native language, where they were born, when they were born...
As a boomer I will acknowledge that my cohort are mostly awful. I don’t understand how people who grew up in the same years as me - which are arguably the best years ever to grow up - turned out so fucking bitter.
That said we get blamed for a lot of stuff like pulling up the economic ladder behind us that was done mostly by the “greatest” generation not boomers. We also get no credit for all the progress we helped push through like putting a big pause on nuclear power, the Clean Air Act, The Clean Water Act, ending the draft, massively reducing our nuclear stockpile, gay marriage, and women and people of color are more represented in every level of society than ever were before. All while churning out one of the greatest economic expansions ever recorded.
I would be a lot more sympathetic to the millennial's and gen Zers who mostly drive the boomers suck narrative if I saw them doing anything at all to make things better. We may have broken a lot of shit but it’s yours now if you don’t like it is completely within your power to change things, but instead we get memes and social media outrage.
If Boomers could simply have the wherewithal to turn off their phone flashlights while taking photos/videos at concerts, it would be a giant step forward for mankind.
All the resources I read showed that Japan wasn't anywhere near surrender. Even after the first bomb Japan was still all in.
That wasn't fed to me. It was through a great deal of primary source material that I used when studying as an undergraduate and teaching units on WWII. I'm not a fan of the, "If you disagree with me you're ignorant or brainwashed..." thing.
As for the decision to actually drop the bombs, that came down to a president who had inherited the position and hadn't been a huge part of foreign affairs as VP. He was very reliant on his advisors. Many of the internal memos are available online and they are very interesting.
I don't think any of us know what we would do if we were in Truman's position, with the intel he had.
Yeah just learned about this - until very recently they had to use this steel for all medical equipment
There's a particular reason why the steel of sunken warships is so valuable. All the steel produced after World War II was irreversibly irradiated with radioactive cobalt isotopes during the process of mixing iron and carbon as an unexpected consequence of global atomic testing.
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Which generation was it that
Which generation was it that dropped atomic bombs on other people? They might be the worst.
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But I thought that was the
But I thought that was the greatest generation?
which generation invented payday loans? Or dollar general stores?
they're definitely the worst
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Generationism.
Generationism.
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Which generation was it that
Which generation was it that dropped atomic bombs on other people? They might be the worst.<<<<<<<<
Check your history and/or do a little homework. Dropping the bombs ended the war - saved millions of lives.
That generation fought the worst war in history and defeated Hitler and the Japanese empire. Great generation.
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> Dropping the bombs ended
> Dropping the bombs ended the war - saved millions of lives.
I understand that, but those saved lives don't render the use of the bomb, and the omnipresent threat of its use for the last 79 years, any less atrocious.
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A lot of them seem abnormally
A lot of them seem abnormally angry. I don't recall my grandparents generation (Silent) being so irate but perhaps I was too young to notice.
Did the Reagan Administration bake an unhealthy me-first idealism into their populace? Did the bifurcation of cable news programming add fuel to their predetermined tendencies and fears?
Fascinating.
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I think that before internet
I think that before internet and cable, we all watched basically the same feeds and had disagreements based on that common intake. Now, we don't even give time to the other side, we listen in an echo chamber only to our side then try to argue on non common points. It doesn't work.
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Talking about mymymymy
Talking about mymymymy generation......
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>dropping the bombs ended the
>dropping the bombs ended the war - saved millions of lives.<<
ok boomer.
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Man they sure got some great
Man they sure got some great ass pensions, though.
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he use of the bomb, and the
he use of the bomb, and the omnipresent threat of its use for the last 79 years, <<<<<<<<<<<
The bomb was developed out of necessity to defeat Germany. It's "omnipresence" was necessary after the Russians got it.
ok boomer. <<<<<<<< fuck you Turt. Do your homework.
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>The bomb was developed out
>The bomb was developed out of necessity to defeat Germany. It's "omnipresence" was necessary
Who determines necessity in these things? Businessmen? Politicians? Generals? I'm fairly distrustful of those types as a rule, but I guess you're not.
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Would you post "Blacks - the
Would you post "Blacks - the worst race or simply misunderstood?: ?
I don't believe that, but if I did, I sure wouldn't post it.
I was taught since before kindergarten that you don't dis a person or a group for something they have no control over - like the color of their skin, their native language, where they were born, when they were born...
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>fuck you Turt. Do your
>fuck you Turt. Do your homework.<
well, you are free to believe the narrative that they told you.
what i have read, and surmised...is that japan was close to having to surrender anyways...
but your pals thought this would be a great opportunity to experiment by dropping H bombs on civilians.
now stick that in your metal pipe boomer.
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As a boomer I will
As a boomer I will acknowledge that my cohort are mostly awful. I don’t understand how people who grew up in the same years as me - which are arguably the best years ever to grow up - turned out so fucking bitter.
That said we get blamed for a lot of stuff like pulling up the economic ladder behind us that was done mostly by the “greatest” generation not boomers. We also get no credit for all the progress we helped push through like putting a big pause on nuclear power, the Clean Air Act, The Clean Water Act, ending the draft, massively reducing our nuclear stockpile, gay marriage, and women and people of color are more represented in every level of society than ever were before. All while churning out one of the greatest economic expansions ever recorded.
I would be a lot more sympathetic to the millennial's and gen Zers who mostly drive the boomers suck narrative if I saw them doing anything at all to make things better. We may have broken a lot of shit but it’s yours now if you don’t like it is completely within your power to change things, but instead we get memes and social media outrage.
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If Boomers could simply have
If Boomers could simply have the wherewithal to turn off their phone flashlights while taking photos/videos at concerts, it would be a giant step forward for mankind.
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All the resources I read
All the resources I read showed that Japan wasn't anywhere near surrender. Even after the first bomb Japan was still all in.
That wasn't fed to me. It was through a great deal of primary source material that I used when studying as an undergraduate and teaching units on WWII. I'm not a fan of the, "If you disagree with me you're ignorant or brainwashed..." thing.
As for the decision to actually drop the bombs, that came down to a president who had inherited the position and hadn't been a huge part of foreign affairs as VP. He was very reliant on his advisors. Many of the internal memos are available online and they are very interesting.
I don't think any of us know what we would do if we were in Truman's position, with the intel he had.
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And without the knowledge we
And without the knowledge we now have about the medical, environmental, and climate implications of nuclear weapons use.
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Yeah just learned about this
Yeah just learned about this - until very recently they had to use this steel for all medical equipment
There's a particular reason why the steel of sunken warships is so valuable. All the steel produced after World War II was irreversibly irradiated with radioactive cobalt isotopes during the process of mixing iron and carbon as an unexpected consequence of global atomic testing.