Bivalenet Booster?

Ouch. That sucks and I hope you recover well and soon. The Bivalent vacc is supposed to be the "best one yet" with the most wide-ranging protection but that may be difficult to confirm. I read up on as much as I could find at that time in  weighing the Bivalent and wound up taking it (Pfizer) back in Nov and then pretty much gave up on masks, went to concerts, etc with out any issue(s) or infection. 

I'm sorry to hear this Nancy. I've gotten all the jabs, too... including the booster + flu shot in early October before I traveled to CAP.  
Got nasty flu in early Nov (which seems to happen every year that I choose to get the flu shot) ... but it wasn't COVID. 
Take good care and hope you feel better soon. 

Liddell brand homeopathics makes a good vaccine and heavy metals detox tincture -- google it. 

I got it the 5th jab when it came out, and still haven't gotten Covid, but I would attribute that more to no kids, only one plane trip since before times, 100% work from home for me, 60% work from home for my wife. 

I kind of feel like I'm the last one at this point, and other than wearing a mask in the grocery store I live my life the way I did before. That said I have every expectation that my time will come. I don't think the vax does much to keep you from getting it just keeps you from ending up in the hospital. 

And I don't think this gets said enough because Trump turned into to a racist trope but fuck China and their wet markets. 

This sucks, Nancy. I'm sending well wishes. Last week my wife got over a bout with the help of Paxlovid. Last booster I had was eight months ago. I was sure I was going to get the virus but I self tested(negative)every day for a week.

I got em all. So far no Covid but I'm a bit of a recluse. On the other hand friends who got them all just both got Covid and they only go out for groceries. She said she didn't know you be so sick. No taste or smell at all.

I got the bivalent booster last October and the flu shot a couple of weeks later. I haven't gotten Covid or the flu. I still do pre-ordered curbside-pickup groceries to avoid almost all stores. I wear a KN95 or N95 mask whenever I'm indoors with other people, which is rare (house, buildings, cars). I wear a mask but am okay with other adults who aren't sick not wearing a mask indoors with me, though my son and grandkids wear masks when they come to visit. I am pretty comfortable without a mask when talking with people outside but not too close.

I'm planning to fly to the Bay Area in April, we'll see if I go and how it works out if I do.

I'm sorry you got it again, Nancy, and especially sorry about your having long Covid. Totally sucks.

So far I've had the 4 shots but not # 5, the bi-valent. I don't go to indoor shows, I wear a mask in the store, and I don't fly. No kids at home. Have not had Covid. I don't usually worry about it. Wife has had it, and still suffers from long Covid symptoms.

How many folks here got the latest 'Bivalent' booster?

I've had it and every other recommended shot and three years in I have yet to contract COVID. I don't wear masks anymore, fly, go to indoor concerts and pretty much live life like the "before times."

The risks to the heart (and brain) from the jab(s) still seem much less than that of the virus itself.

"Covid can cause heart problems. Here's how the virus may do its damage."

https://news.yahoo.com/covid-cause-heart-problems-heres-150000401.html

Oct 2020 long covid, some shit dragged on for a year. At one time all 5 senses were affected. Im 5X stuck. I have tested positive 4x with covid since then. After shots all have been 2-3 day mild shit.

Overall my health has shit the bed since Oct 2020. Always sick or feeling like shit, shoulder surgery, vicious back issues, staff infections, vision loss, constant diarrhea to name a few. For someone who always was ready to go and do, I am now a couch sitting lump wishing I could and reminiscing old times.

Fuck this shit sucks.

Nancy I hope this passes easily this time around.

>>>>Overall my health has shit the bed since Oct 2020. Always sick or feeling like shit, shoulder surgery, vicious back issues, staff infections, vision loss, constant diarrhea to name a few. For someone who always was ready to go and do, I am now a couch sitting lump wishing I could and reminiscing old times.
 

keep getting those boosters!

Have the original 2 shots and 2 boosters after that (last one was 4/18/22).  Absolutely no plans for any more.Over Covid and all the conflicting BS that surrounds it / us.  Continue to take vitamin D3 and Zinc on alternating days.  That's it for me.

I got the first two shots, but passed on the boosters.  Although I work with the general public almost daily, and have done a lot of air travel the last three years, I've never developed symptoms.  Getting my sleep, minding my nutrition, and regular hand washing and use of hand sanitizer are my regimen.  I feel fortunate, and sympathize with those who have struggled more with this virus.  
 

My biggest health concern continues to be my knee and ankle which got all tore up when a driver ploughed her car into me three years ago.  It has recently shown slow signs of improvement, but it's been a long process.

Some decent general guidelines for a more health-favoring diet:

Primal Diet Foods To Eat:

*Fruits and vegetables

*High-quality meat and fish (that isn’t overly processed)

*Eggs

*Nuts and seeds

*Healthy fats (including olive oil, avocado oil, coconut oil, grass-fed butter, and ghee)

*Dairy, in moderation

Primal Diet Foods To Avoid:

*Inflammatory oils (including vegetable oil and soybean oil)

*Processed foods with sugar, trans- or hydrogenated fats, artificial ingredients, or other chemicals

*Grains

*Soy

*Corn

*Sugar and artificial sweeteners

If anyone could OD on VitaminC, I would have done so already with the 1300MG I take every AM...then I top it off with the juice of 4-5 oranges and grapefruit too.  

I am sorry that any of you are sick. It is no fun.

My wife & I each have had 5 shots, I am over 70 & she is close behind.

After being careful for so long we had 2 house guests in November who flew from back East. They are our ages & they each had 5 shots.

They wore masks on the plane but others did not & they were coughed on.

While @ my house they became sick & we all tested positive.

After about 10 days we all had 2 negative tests 48 hours apart per the CDC & they went home.

My wife was 2 days behind me so when she took her 2nd (negative) &  I took a third one for fun It was positive.

The next day my wife took another one & it was positive.

We were sick for about 1 week.

My doctor said we rebounded back into the original sickness & that it was not a new infection.

While sick the 1st time we all took Paxlovid.

President Biden & Dr. Fauci also rebounded after taking the drug.

We were asymptomatic with the 2nd round.

The CDC still recommends the drug even with of the risk of rebound because it helps keep the elderly  & those with other medical conditions out of the hospital.

Thanks for all the good info above. Sorry to read about the long covid problems for you guys,  and i hope those symptoms eventually clear up..  I've had 4 shots. I have not heard of the bivalent. 

I tested positive for Covid, 1/20, the day before i was supposed to go for facilitator training, so i didn't go. No pharma drugs. I only dosed up on Vit. C (1,500mg),  N-acetyl cysteine, NAC (900mg, once daily), and thc.  I had maybe 5 days where i felt more tired than usual and not hungry, but that's really been about it. Tested neg. 10 days later too. My sense of smell and taste are diminished a decent amount from almost twenty years in labs, but those senses don't seem any worse than before. Very lucky.  

((((((((((((((((((((( Improving Health for All ))))))))))))))))))))))))

Sorry to hear about your illness, Nancy. Same for all of you. Thanks for sharing your stories. I think long covid is what worries me the most at this point. I've seen it debilitate otherwise young, healthy people. We've had all the shots and still avoid crowds. Had covid a year ago and nothing since. Mrs Twang has flown a couple of times and we've been to two indoor shows without incident.

We  have a good diet and exercise daily. Best of luck. 

All 5.  Nothing yet.

Went to an indoor reception last Saturday and got a report on Monday that someone there who had tested negative Friday morning tested positive Monday. 

No masks. Lots of vaccinated people.I tested Monday with a kit - negative. May retest. No symptoms. I wear a mask a lot. A little just to say FU to the Qtahns in the state. 

Testified at the state legislature twice in the last few weeks and both times, I think I was the only person in that room with a mask. 

Had the first three then the bivalent.  Also flu and shingles during the same general period.

My wife went on a cruise with my sister and came home with it.   She was similarly vaxxed and she was pretty sick.  Blood in the sinuses, lingering dizzyness.

I got it, I would describe it as like a bad case of the flu, a couple weeks of symptoms.  I blacked out and fell toward the end, doctor says likely due to reduced oxygen.  I am 70.  OK now.

I vax when the doc says vax.  He thinks we will be doing an annual covid vax like flu.

I will wear a mask where requested but usually not.  Of course I only go the thegrocery store and weed man.

I will go to a restaurant or anywhere I can have space.  No concerts and no damn cruises.

It's almsot reassuring that Racketinhishead stops by for select threads.

>>> because it helps keep the elderly  & those with other medical conditions out of the hospital. <<<  That is how I feel about the bivalent and other boosters. I'm bound to get the virus at some point, but hope to avoid a case that sends me to the hospital by having had the vaccines. The risks associated with having Covid and the other illnesses/conditions I have keep me masked and vaccinated.

Good wishes and good luck to all of us.

Liddell brand homeopathics makes a good vaccine and heavy metals detox tincture -- google it.

please do not google this. homeopathy is not real and is 100% a fraud. homeopathy is in the same realm as being antivax, flat earth, or thinking that 5g is going to kill you. 

there is also nothing in the vaccine you need to "detox" from - the entire concept of "detoxes" and "cleanses" is just more woo-woo hippie bullshit that is not real. what is in the vaccine that you feel like you need to detox from? and how will a bunch of plant extracts that are so heavily diluted that no detectable traces of them are left help get these things out of your body? its literal water dude. make this make sense, please. im waiting.

if you do not have the capacity to read about what homeopathy is and understand that it is 100% fake and 100% a fraud, your input on discussions relating to health, science and wellness, especially as it relates to covid and the vaccines, is not needed nor appreciated. we have enough problems with anti-science bullshit coming from the right/antivax spaces, the last thing we need is more woo-woo bullshit coming from spaces that are largely left leaning/pro-vax. go write a horoscope or take a trip to narnia instead.

Please point out on the drawing where the natureopath touched you 

I have been using homeopathic remedies selectively for the past 25+ years with actual real life success. No fraud, no fakery. I choose what I will treat with homeopathy and what I will treat with "scientific" allopathic/pharmaceutical medicine based on trusted practitioners and my knowledge of both.

I agree that I don't need to detox from the vaccines. I disagree that homeopathy is in the same realm as > as being antivax, flat earth, or thinking that 5g is going to kill you <. I don't believe that any of those 3 things is true.

Dr Benway is correct. Not just because he's a doctor. Snake oil salesmen have been using this convoluted logic for ages -- the more pure something is, the better it is. "We distill it down to its essence.This very bottle has just one molecule of _____ and it will cure you." Homeopathy, with its proposed mechanisms of action, violates the laws of physics and current knowledge in pharmacology, biochemistry, and pathophysiology.

And yes, the placebo effect is real and more real for some predisposed individuals. 

But let me save you a ton of money --  instead of buying expensive homeopathic meds from your local natural foods store (if they sell it it must be good for you*), just send me a crisp 20 bill along with a self addressed envelop and I will send you back a tiny speck of "Alan's Amazing Specially Prepared Cure-All Extract Potion"  If you believe in it, it WILL work. No refunds or exchanges.

* cause you wouldn't buy this same stuff from a shady guy in an alleyway, right?

I think woo-woo should be added to the zoner dictionary.

If anybody still has that stashed somewhere.

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^ oh shit - Lance is distributing one tiny speck (.) of his specialty potion on the internet for free --- what's ammater with you? We can make loads of money selling these things to hippies that embrace magical thinking. Cause if you believe in magic.....

   . .   take two - they're small

Speaking of illness, I've been waylaid by the stomach flu for a couple days. Trust me, there is nothing more pathetic than an old guy barfing and crapping his brains out at three in the morning wanting to curl up on the cold bathroom floor. 

Norovirus or stomach flu is not really a respiratory illness. Masks won't help. But just another reason to avoid restaurants and other human beings. Who's got my homeopathic cure?

The shitty part (no, not that part) is that I had to cancel my stone sculpture pop-up gallery at the Los Lobos concert tonight. Bummer. I even shlepped all the pedestals and sculptures from the basement up to the carport to load everything in the cars. I was hoping to sell some stuff to this crowd. I even reworked the neck of Rock Guitar and replaced the soapstone one with a removable wooden one. The carved stone one was just too top heavy and the marble guitar was hard to transport with it attached. 

>Snake oil actually did WORK to treat arthritis and bursitis (inflammatory conditions). It was rich in Omega <

Sooooo, are you also saying the homeopathic version --- essence of snake oil (microscopic amounts of distilled omega) will have more of a beneficial effect on the human body? Or do you mean if you  take a reasonable amount? To like, make the biochemical reactions work?

I hope everyone feels better whatever medication they are taking. Except for bloodletting. That's gross.

Ouch - I just came in for some gluten-free cereal and some homeopathic meds, can't you just ring me up?
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Listen hippie, we're called Natural Foods and All Healthy Things for a reason. Bloodletting was mentioned in the Whole Earth Catalog so it must be good for you.
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>>>>>  . .   take two - they're small

Just don't take the brown ones.

But if you've already taken them, don't worry - you won't die.

Well, not right now.

Probably.

It surprises me that you folks think that the help I've gotten isn't real. I'm surprised that none of you uses Arnica gel, ointment or cream to prevent bruising - could that be true?

Homeopathy's not a matter of belief, it's what I've seen and felt. I am seriously sensitive (allergic) to fragrances. When people wear fragrant body lotions or hair products, perfume, essential oils, or their clothes smell of detergent or dryer sheets, I get headaches, my throat closes (never to the point of not being able to breathe), my thinking gets muddled, and I get really angry that I've been assaulted in that way. It makes me want to seriously injure the person who exposed me to the fragrance. I have a homeopathic remedy that was prescribed to me so I lose the anger I feel and don't want to hurt someone. If I don't have the remedy with me, the anger stays with me, if I take it the anger lessens. I have to repeat it to be able to be around fragrant people.
p.s. I have to wash my clothes when I come home from appointments or places I've sat in chairs that people who use smells in their laundry or on their body because I can't wear them again. All of this may seem extreme but it's what happens in my life.

I use a homeopathy remedy to cause cuts and incisions to heal more quickly. I use one when I've been stung by a stinging insect to reduce the reaction to the sting.
It can be subtle or dramatic, but whichever, it helps. Yes, I realize that I will be the object of your whatever, but I get the help I need and am willing to share that.

Homeopathy has been in use for more than 200 years. Hippies?

I'm not saying the remedy changes my physical reaction to fragrances, it lessens it, but most importantly, it makes me not want to kill someone.

Judit - Without revealing too much on the Interwebs, I (unfortunately) know more about fragrance allergies  / chemical sensitivities than most folks. I know of what you speak. I know all about the related challenges that some folks confront. Beyond the pain in the ass of renting cars and booking hotel rooms and the peril of air fresheners, etc. It sucks and I feel for you.

I also know that just because a medical belief has been around for a long time, it doesn't mean beans. (See bloodletting above. "With a history spanning at least 3000 years, bloodletting has only recently—in the late 19th century—been discredited as a treatment for most ailments." The history of bloodletting | British Columbia Medical Journal.) Some people swear by voodoo. But don't tell me some micro amount of chemical compound essence of flower petals in a bottle is what is actually doing the healing. You are doing the healing yourself. The bottle you purchase is s prop. A catalyst of sorts. You can't not believe it works -- or it wouldn't work. So nothing you read on a DBMB will change your mind.

The power of the mind over, or more correctly along with, the body is incredible. If you get relief from a magic potion - good on ya. Whatever works, right?  Glad you found something that enhances your life. 

But I would think hippies would know that drug effects are dosage dependent. (And that humor is the best medicine -- Readers Digest says so, so it has to be true, right? They've been around forever.)

What the hell Judit, maybe if you seriously injured a couple of people you'd find you liked it, and you wouldn't need the homeopathy stuff.

On a slightly more serious note, I'm not going to get into this discussion because I have no idea what you all are talking about, other than to say that virtually nothing in this world is 100%, except death, and there are many who will argue about that.

Also, another thing hippies should know is that the effects of drugs/substances vary widely from person to person; what does certain things for one doesn't always do the same to others.

I'm just saying that it's rarely a good thing to be absolutely certain about almost anything.

And damn Judit. There were a couple of times you were right next to me at TxR, and when I'm working a show I habitually suck on Hall's Wild Cherry cough drops to keep my eyes wide open and senses (somewhat) sharp. Those things reek from 10 feet.

Thanks for not kicking my ass.

Lance it's like if you waved an empty box of Hall's over a sealed bottle of distilled water, and later you took a eyedropper drop of that water, you would still get the full taste of Wild Cherry. 

Back to bloodletting. Research has shown that people who donate blood regularly, or once a year, have lowered blood pressure and all sorts of good side effects.  So how is that not bloodletting?  And more importantly, Judit how can you stand the smell of weed and not want to kill somebody? 

^and the Cattlemen's Beef Association lobbying arm would be up someone's ass too. Every action...

Ironically for this discussion, the guy who invented homeopathic theory, Samuel Hahnemann, did so because he didn't believe in bloodletting.

"My sense of duty would not easily allow me to treat the unknown pathological state of my suffering brethren with these unknown medicines. The thought of becoming in this way a murderer or malefactor towards the life of my fellow human beings was most terrible to me, so terrible and disturbing that I wholly gave up my practice in the first years of my married life and occupied myself solely with chemistry and writing."

Hahnemann was a pretty interesting guy --- he was smart and well educated for his time (he mostly had a career as a translator). And like many of his contemporaries, sorta like a Benjamin Franklin (but not of his stature), he was interested in why so many people suffered various illnesses. The microscope had been invented and used, but bacteria (germs) and viruses were not yet linked to illness until much much later. He lived in a time when Europeans were experimenting with plants and compounds with a renewed sense of curiosity. 

At one point, he thought coffee was the source of illness:

'That the drinking of warm coffee and Chinese tea...has further augmented the tendency of this period to a multitude of chronic diseases and thus aided psora, I least of all can doubt, as I have made prominent, perhaps too prominent, the part which coffee takes with respect to the bodily and mental sufferings of humanity, in my little work on the 'Effects of Coffee' (Leipzig, 1803). This perhaps undue prominence given was owing to the fact that I had not then as yet discovered the chief source of chronic disease in Psora.' (Chronic Diseases, Jain Edition, 1978, (Tafel translation of 1896), Vol 1, pp13-14)

Then, he thought it was psora -- skin diseases (maybe scabies). 

Then he settled upon little amounts of poison. Because he could easily witness the link between a these substances and a bodily effect. So he wouldn't kill healthy people, he purposely diluted these poisons and gave them to sick people whose illnesses mimicked the poison's effect. Some people embraced his theories because they heard they worked. Another placebo treatment, European style. (Europeans printed books, unlike the tribal shamans who often relied on similar methods, so Euro medical methods were popularized.) When the scientific method was used to test his theories, they were discredited. Interesting story if you are into the history of medicine. 

Fast forward to the sixties and the counterculture embraced many "alternative" theories with Ancient origins. Some proved beneficial. Others, pure bunk, proved lucrative.Hence we find homeopathic medicines in health food stores and website with pictures of real doctors. It's a multi-million dollar industry with and easy marketing pitch (hey, you've never seen a virus, it's invisible, so try our stuff, your kind healer hippy friend says it works). Woo Woo.

When Greg was doing chemo infusions, there were people there who came to the infusion center to have blood drained. It's not a matter of diet, it's how their organs function.

I'll be back later, on my way out to the country for the afternoon.

Isn't  "evidence-based" science used now the result of people thinking and experimenting? New info creates new thinking creates new info, which leads back to the OP.

And Lance, your height saved you.

well,

looks like this thread has gone upside out/inside down but just wandered in to hope you're feeling better and wish you a speedy recovery Nancy...

Hey we're all sick in bed missing music, we get crotchety. And please always read anything I post with a smile in the voice (insert smiley face).

Hope Nancy and everyone recovers ok, too.

My favorite doctor with an old friend of mine:

keep getting those boosters!>>>>>

I will

Reading through this thread, I'm wondering if there's an issue with agreement on the definition of "homeopathy." For instance, is arnica homeopathic, or is it just a natural substance with medicinal properties? When it comes to Covid, I'm sure there are plenty of natural substances that can boost immunity and help to minimize symptoms. There are bodies of proof that show both the pharmacology and pharmacokinetics. These substances probably aren't really homeopathic.

>>>h shit - Lance is distributing one tiny speck (.) of his specialty potion on the internet for free

Does it come on paper? 

B- from what I read on the internet and product packaging, the two things basic to the original homeopathic theory are: dilution of the ingredient to immeasurable levels (because they were toxic in "normal" amounts) and the "like for like" ingredients idea (onions make ya cry so that substance can be used to treat allergies).

So if you believe zero ingredients (i,e, just the imaginary essence of something) can cure ya, I call it placebo. Which may work.

I know very little about arnica, it does have effects on the human body in measurable amounts and is usually classified as a poison, but read the label abut dosage. If there is virtually no active ingredients in the tube, I'm pretty sure that a bruise would go away on it's own without the cream. But humans like to make correlations -- "I rubbed it in and the swelling went down; It must be that miracle cream."

My main point is that charlatans have duped the crowd that are prone to embrace alternative medicines in this instance. And they make tons of money doing so. Everyone's still waiting for the scientific method control group proof that homeopathy really works -- after 200 years. It's not coming from corporate alt med. But slap the word natural on it and sell it in a health food store next to the yoga mats --- it must be true, right?

Like they say --- believe it if you need it....

Hope everyone is healing up. I'm headed to a dr appointment myself for some Western medical voodoo.

Honestly, I stay away from anything labeled as "homeopathic." If it's natural, and there's a body of peer reviewed lit on PubMed showing efficacy, that's a different story. The monographs on German Commission E are also a good place to look.

For everyone not up to date on the bivalent booster and not planning to get it, does that make you anti vaxx?

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Nancy the scientist should explain spike proteins to the class.

This is a good article on the state of Covid today. Particularly this part. 

A Breakthrough for Prevention of Long Covid

Until now the only way we knew that Long Covid could be prevented was to not get Covid. That’s still the case. But a new randomized, placebo-controlled trial of metformin has yielded exciting results—the first drug to be shown to help prevent Long Covid. Over a thousand people with mild-to-moderate Covid were randomly assigned to 2 weeks of metformin (500 mg pills, 1 on day 1, twice a day for 4 days, then 500 mg in AM and 1000 mg in PM for 9 days) or placebo. There was a 42% reduction of subsequent Long Covid as you can see by the event curve below, which corresponds to an absolute decrease of 4.3%, from 10.6% reduced to 6.3%.

As I’ve written in the past, I don’t use the term “breakthrough” lightly. Besides Paxlovid, that I initially wrote about in 2021 here, and the new anti-obesity drugs here, I’m reluctant to go there. But to see such a pronounced benefit in the current randomized trial of metformin, in the context of it being so safe and low cost, I’d give it a breakthrough categorization. Another way to put it, that unless or until there are data to the contrary, if I got Covid, I’d take metformin for 2 weeks at the doses used in this trial.

https://erictopol.substack.com/?utm_campaign=pub&utm_medium=web

Ozempic is semaglutide, not Metformin.

I take 1500 mg of Metformin daily for type 2 diabetes in split doses - 1000 in a.m., 500 p.m.  It sounds like I might be somewhat protected from Long Covid if/when I get Covid if the trial is the case.

Al Franken's podcast on Youtube from 3 days ago featuring Andy Slavitt & Laurie Garrett on “The End of the Covid Emergency?” was so informative and interesting to me. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwJ3zuJ_MBk

i got it Monday along with the Shingles vax...didnt knock me out but i did feel like crap Monday night and Tuesday AM.

Ivermectin expert/influencer that promoted these Ivermectin "protocols" dies suddenly.

Now, the anti-science, Ivermectin protocol followers are realizing the need for concern over their own severe symptoms including migraines, vomiting, severe stomach pain, chest pain, Costochondritis symptoms, internal tremors, brain fog depression, etc.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/z3mb89/ivermectin-danny-lemoi-death?utm_...

>>>We need cures and we need them fast
 

There will be no "cure" for COVID.  Follow the science.

Just tested positive for COVID on Saturday. Hit me good Sat and Sunday. Fever, congestion, coughing, sneezing, headache. Surprised at the backache. Like a REALLY bad cold. Feeling a bit better today. Even got on the porch in the sunshine for some guitar picking. 

The isolation thing is weird. Live with my wife in a small house. Not easy. We're both masking and open the windows when possible. Staying in the bedroom as much as possible. Glad it's hitting the 50's. She tested neg again today. But there's lots of false negatives. Not a lot of false positives.

Decided against the Paxlovid. Nurse didn't think it would make much difference and there were contraindications with my heart and BP meds. Those 5 shots helped lessen the effects, according to the nurse. 

Think I picked it up at the Twiddle show last Wednesday. Who knows? 

Enjoy the sunshine, Slick.

Best wishes for complete recovery, Slick.

It's going around... 3 friends tested positive within the last week. They're all starting to feel better, one with Paxlovid, 2 without.

One of them is taking 1500 mg of Metformin for diabetes, I'll be watching. She didn't have latest booster and her husband had no vacc. at all. She says she's been doing all kinds of high-risk behaviors "except wild sex". I hope they'll all come through with complete recovery and without bumps along the way.

Damn.Been feeling good these last few days and hoping the adventure would end soon and....my wife tested positive this morning. I'm still pos also.

We're in a small house so it's been hard to isolate. I thought about the nightmare people in refugee camps lived through when this thing was rampant. I don't have it so bad. 

The nurse indicated the Paxlovid was emergency-released to deal with the ugly Delta variant, but isn't as effective or needed with the newer ones.