Changes to "Green Board" (and other colors) in aftermath of Jan 6th

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It's always been the wild west of "jam band" message boards; allowing for a mostly anything goes sort of policy. 

Can't help but to believe that it's in the same light that Cumulus Media is cracking down on the seditious speech of its radio "personalities" such as Mark Levin to avoid being in the hotseat of providing a platform for language and behavior that is no longer just "talk".   Just because it's been a long slow walk that we've gotten used to, does that negate the underlying seditious nature of the content and how it plays out?

 

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Changes Coming to the Phantasy Tour Message Boards

January 11, 2021

For over two decades, Phantasy Tour has been a destination for live music fans to engage with their favorite bands and connect with other fans. We have long struggled with enforcing the rules for posting messages on Phantasy Tour’s message boards. The volume of content, diversity of opinions and technological work arounds make this especially challenging. As with any vibrant and active online community, discussions on our forums can often devolve into ugly exchanges. With our large number of readers, we have attracted users that seem to have little interest in discussing music and instead are intent on sowing discord, intimidating others or spreading disinformation. We do not condone hate speech or illegal activities on our website. We have always had mechanisms for reporting content and have been committed to the timely review of all reported posts. When reviewing reported content, we strive to be as fair and objective as possible while also respecting freedom of expression. This is not an easy task and I’m grateful to our volunteer moderators for their assistance in striking this delicate balance. Unfortunately, we have had little recourse to stop individuals intent on persistent divisiveness. This has been in part due to our reluctance to institute measures that would be inconvenient, restrictive and intrusive to our thousands of valued members that use our service responsibly. However, the time has come for implementing measures that will improve our ability to enforce our rules. Effective immediately, new members of Phantasy Tour will need to request access to post messages to our site. Members that repeatedly violate our rules will have their posting privileges revoked. Other measures are being actively discussed and I will post updates to blog.phantasytour.com as they are implemented. Your feedback is welcome at support.phantasytour.com.

As a reminder, each member of Phantasy Tour is equipped with ability to remove content themselves with the ignore feature. This is especially useful for addressing members with whom you disagree but that do not violate our rules.

>>>>>with the ignore feature.

 

It's called "scroll past".

The political and social climate out there has already spawned the move to remove hosting sites protection from content posted by members on message boards. Since site owners will soon be culpable for what people post on their sites, you will see much more moderation for anything hosted in the US. I can't blame the owners of sites for doing this. Basically if a person on a board says they are going to kick somebody's ass who posts something they don't like and then proceeds to kick their ass and the site owner doesn't remove that content immediately, the site owner can be put in jail or lose their house or both. 

I would not be surprised is it gets to the point that if a site owner does not pass on threats like that to legal authorities in a timely manner that the site owner will get penalties as well. 

I occasionally lurk and rarely post over there.

I see a lot of KYS postings.  I know most is in jest but.....

The political and social climate out there has already spawned the move to remove hosting sites protection from content posted by members on message boards. Since site owners will soon be culpable for what people post on their sites, you will see much more moderation for anything hosted in the US. I can't blame the owners of sites for doing this. Basically if a person on a board says they are going to kick somebody's ass who posts something they don't like and then proceeds to kick their ass and the site owner doesn't remove that content immediately, the site owner can be put in jail or lose their house or both. 

I would not be surprised is it gets to the point that if a site owner does not pass on threats like that to legal authorities in a timely manner that the site owner will get penalties as well. <<<

I generally agree with all that you've said, but what I find interesting is how that particular message board has allowed known serial doxxers a free hand for years.   Perhaps doxxing isn't technically illegal or it might fall into more of a legal gray area, but it's far more of a cannibalistic activity when one stops to consider how said activity affects the registered users of the board and in light of the context / primary mission of the board itself (not being dedicated to some alt right group).

But yeah, I think the Rubicon has been passed where hosting sites are now more cognizant of the potential for culpability.

>>>>Basically if a person on a board says they are going to kick somebody's ass who posts something they don't like and then proceeds to kick their ass and the site owner doesn't remove that content immediately, the site owner can be put in jail or lose their house or both. 

 

Or maybe advocates killing the #2 and #3 in line of presidential succession while attacking the Capitol attempting to overturn an American election?  

Ban anyone who likes Weir's slide playing. 

I generally agree with all that you've said, but what I find interesting is how that particular message board has allowed known serial doxxers a free hand for years.   Perhaps doxxing isn't technically illegal or it might fall into more of a legal gray area, but it's far more of a cannibalistic activity when one stops to consider how said activity affects the registered users of the board and in light of the context / primary mission of the board itself (not being dedicated to some alt right group).

I agree that doxxing is something that can, and has, cause a great amount of problems for those doxed. I've said for years that probably the only answer will end up will be the loss of any anonymity on message boards. In order to post, sites will have to have verifiable credentials as to who you are, where you live, etc. That way if you create damage you will be held accountable for that damage. 

Some will remember in the olden days if you wrote a letter to the newspaper op-ed page you had to sign your name and address.

Because people can't look away and control their anxious desires for money, murder, sex and madness now huge tech companies are flexing their muscles of what they can and won't censor or ban letting them dominate even further what you are viewing. Even phantasy tour lol. 

Turn off your phones and TVs and stay away from the government. Next ten years the political system, the media and social media companies will only get more power and control until they are planting chips in your brains and copying and pasting you onto some robot somewhere. 
 

Enjoy the good ol times of talking on a back deck with a couple acoustic guitars and having good conversation or maybe throwing on a nice album while you can. One day they will cease to exist.

I agree that doxxing is something that can, and has, cause a great amount of problems for those doxed. I've said for years that probably the only answer will end up will be the loss of any anonymity on message boards. In order to post, sites will have to have verifiable credentials as to who you are, where you live, etc. That way if you create damage you will be held accountable for that damage.<<<

Yeah, I'd agree with you on this front.  It seems it's been a general trend over the long haul, but has been slow to completely solidify in its full adoption.    If you think way way back, many "comments sections" of newspapers and message boards didn't require any form of registration; and often turned into a complete free for all.   Newspapers then started to either require in house user registration or some form of embedded application such as Disqus or Facebook.  Anyone can still register anonymously with either, but at least FB probably has some level of adherence to real-world identities due to the nature of its primary mission.   But still, it may not be good enough moving forward.  Perhaps there's a potential business model out there for an outfit to act as a clearinghouse for validated online identities?  IOW, you go through a legit / rigorous identity verification process and they issue you something equivalent to a unique "online social security number and ID" .... that can be used to register at various sites.

Vivalafantasytour?

I think we all know how this will work out.

 

a grown man started this thread. let that sink in. lol

a grup started this thread. let that sink in. lol<<<

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