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What's the deal with Blue Bottle?

They've been labeled "hipster" over priced and hyped.

So is it any good?

I drink 40-60 oz per day, I know nothing of the "Blue Bottle"

Looks like a high end Starbucks...

https://bluebottlecoffee.com/

it's ok. not for the connoisseur imo. 

they just sold 68% of their company to nestle. lol.....which is what i was thinking this thread would be about. 

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/09/14/business/dealbook/nestle-blue-bott...

 

much better coffee for the price than blue bottle, prior to the nestle bs as well. 

i will say, the blue bottle dripper and their filter is amazing, i just use different beans. 

I drink Safeway classic.

>> they just sold 68% of their company to nestle. lol.....which is what i was thinking this thread would be about.

Never heard of the company until I read that article.

big in the coffee scene, well know company. 

>big in the coffee scene<

 

 

There's a coffee scene?

Very good coffee.

^^maybe not for you..?

I don't know, pyramid, I do like coffee, and I drink large quantities. Tell me of this scene... please

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Two years ago I noticed a lot of chalkboard signs saying "Blue Bottle here" outside many bay area joints. 

I haven't had a cup yet. 

is this like inbev buying craft brewers??

Can we all agree to defer to Pyramid on anything to do with food and drink? He seems to be THE authority, and it would make life much easier.

orangeCounty 

there are great roasters all over the country and abroad.

george howell (mass)

ceremony 

reanimator (philadelphia) 

neat (CT) 

tim wendleboe (Norway roaster, incredible) 

tandem (portland me)

sey (brooklyn) 

april coffee (copenhagen) 

just to name a few i use. 

and sure bk. i don't fuck w/ alcohol, so anything other then that works. also, anyone who puts ketchup on a ribeye definitely needs help, so ask away. 

Food snobs suck. You probably have a man-bun.

We've been through this. Ketchup on a ribeye, or even a hot dog, is nothing like mayo and sprouts on pastrami.

haha. what about jello on cheeseburger? 

im not a food snob, definitely a cannabis snob tho. 

come on, i think the best restaurant in burlington is Al's. no good coffee being roasted up here in vt yet, huh? maybe one day. 

I like Vermont Artisan dark roast.

Cafe Mam (importer and roaster) in Eugene roasts lovely coffees which I need in my life. And when I say need, I mean I need coffee and I love Cafe Mam. When I go to the Bay Area I take my own coffee to make there.

I've had Blue Bottle (at the Ferry Building in SF) and it was quite good, but nothing to write home about.

I kicked coffee over a year ago for herbal tea.  The first few days were rough, but I now have more focus and more sustained energy, without the jitters, and negative impacts on my heart and prostate.  Addiction is for suckers.

im a true coffee addict, and would love to switch to tea....just not yet...tackling cigarettes first...then coffee

 

never heard of blue bottle, but i did see Nestle was getting sued yesterday for their mislabeling of one of their Poland Spring products. I dont know when they purchased that company, but its been commen knowledge for years that that isnt "spring" water...

 

hopefully, they do a better job promoting and advertising their new purchase.

An absolute classic from Greg Brown, "Good Morning Coffee".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bUqpG4v7fE 

I have had a lot of blue bottle coffee in SF.

Also Four Barrel, Sight Glass, Ritual, Andy Town and other local boutique roastery coffees.

Blue Bottle started out of a garage in Hayes Valley and the home base is still operating not far from my office (at Market & Van Ness - just across the street from the former location of the Fillmore West which is now a Honda Dealership).

Blue Bottle and those other coffee purveyors I referenced are all good but definitely in the realm of ridiculously over-priced.

2 Things I don't like that are every day normal in SF:
A Lattte or specialty coffee at one of these places is 4 to 6 bucks and as a daily caffeine consumer that's unsustatinable.
These businesses sell an half or 3/4 of a pound of beans for the price that other every day vendors sell a pound for.

IMHO none of these vendors sell coffee as strong as Peets and in general to cut costs I buy Organic, Fair Trade, Shade Grown Ethiopian or Guatemalen Coffee at 1/2 to 2/3's the Price at Trader Joes and I find it drinkable on everyday level.

Another Coffee Classic:

The late, great Rick Danko...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDaDr2UQprA

Maybe you were at the SF Civic Center 12/31/83??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbQZ9JRnaZM

Used to roast my own in a small 'Melita'  roaster when I had a good source of green Coffee beans.  I liked the Tanzanian Peaberry and Sumatra the most,  but just about any fresh-roasted bean packs much much much more flavour & aromatics in comparison to stale beans vac-packed at the store.  I would roast the beans and keep in a mason jar in the freezer prior to grinding.

The Melita roaster is basically a 'blow-dryer'  liek, for hair,  in terms of wattage and fan velocity.  You put a couple handfuls of Beans in the hopper and the heat rises vertically, and there is a 'chaff collector' that sits on top.  Sort of like an air popcorn-popper but smaller.

I figured out how to make the roast Beans gooey and oily:  substitute a tin can (w/ a few ventilation holes) for 'chaff collector'  and they sweat in there because moisture and air escapes more slowly.

Drank lots of quality Coffee years ago,  but now it's one cup in the morning.  Any Caffeine post-Dinnertime messes with my sleep.  Too much could promote Adrenal burnout.

I'm a coffee junkie.  I get an immense amount of pleasure from a strong, bold cup of coffee.

 

I really DO get into the taste of a good (to me) cup of coffee, but do not consider myself a snob.

 

Maybe 10-12 years ago, I was at an Oakland farmer's market and saw a long line in front of a table.  Found out these crazy people were happy to wait for a cup of Blue Bottle coffee.  I stood in line and noted that cups were individually prepared (single cup drips - first time I'd seen that available).  Took awhile, but it was the strongest, freshest, best-tasting cup of coffee I had ever had.  I was in complete physical and emotional bliss.

 

Never made it a high priority to chase Blue Bottle down, but if it was easily available (my friend's chocolate shop served it awhile  back), I would order one.  Pretty expensive, so I always considered it an indulgence (and you have to wait for the brewing)

 

Haven't had it in years, so I'm not too worked up about the Nestle purchase.

 

I hate the taste of Starbuck's coffee, but LOVE Peet's Major Dickason's.  Like Blue Bottle, it's rich and local (at least both started as local East Bay Businesses).

 

I'm also a cheapskate, so I brew my own (bulk from Costco).  And I'll never turn down a cup of Folger's, as long as it's strong enough.  Drinking weak coffee is worse than no cup at all.

Miami is a coffee city.

Cuban coffee is the reason why meth never took off in Florida.

When the old Cuban man holds a 12oz  Styrofoam cup of the real shit and dishes out little shots to his cigar smoking buddies.......Now that a coffee scene.

I'm new to the whole coffee scene. 

I've started drinking only about 1 or 2 cups a week if I'm sluggish at work, but I'm looking for something good and fancy.

ive just started dabbling but seem to prefer dark roasts, especially Ethiopian.

a friend swore by philz wonderbar from SF and, while being the smoothest cup of joe I've ever had, is still lacking the flavor I've experienced from far cheaper Ethiopian stuff.

ill look for the trader Joe's stuff treblemaker mentioned but I've also been meaning to try that metal looking organic deathwish stuff and Coptic light out of Oregon.

anyone try that David lynch line yet?

dude seems pretty Java obsessed so I would hope it's at least passable.

I drink 1 cup in the morning. Any more than that I start shaking and sweating.

Phew,I remember when you couldn't find exspresso

..in the us

Now it's like 4 coffees 20 bucks

Funny, when we were in Israel I almost went into McDonalds, just to get a tall cup of Joe. Those small, fancy and frothy frothy cups, with the pretty designs on top, were a bit too much for me.

Oh I drink about 10 a day..

You Know our love will not fade away real fast like

james freeman seemed like a great young ceo with a fair moral compass, as a business owner, but this latest move makes me second guess that opinion. nestle just sucks.

 

the coffee collective is a superb roaster, based out of denmark. i recommend their akmel nuri from ethiopia, though their sampler is a fine way to taste their offerings - everything ive had has been fantastic. a local brewery, hill farmstead, uses coffee collective beans in some of their exquisite products.

https://coffeecollective.dk/

 

bk, you ever try vivid roasters out of winooski? they're an up-and-coming roaster, and worth checking out.

>>Cuban coffee is the reason why meth never took off in Florida.

lol

I got couple of Peets Big Bang that weren't up to par. So I purchased a Cuisinart Supreme Grind - Coffee Grinder, which I highly recommend.

So, I'm trying different types of whole beans to grind as I search for that perfect cup. Just finishing off some 8;00 Hazelnut, which is too light.

I just ordered 2 bags of Caribou Coffee - Caribou Blend, I'll see how that goes.

I will read this thread up there, for advise.

We should do a Viva coffee trade/exchange. 

I'm into trying coffee from other parts of the country.

What about grabbing some of your favorite local beans and trading?

Like a quarter lb. for quarter lb.

List the company, origin, personal review, etc...

 

Any interest?

I have a good local that has been serving the restaurants for decades.  they branched off into specialty like the mexican organic, etc. not bad and roasted round the block. The real question: Do you drink your coffee black? I def do.

Café con leche

Ive become a dirty chai guy.

Blue Bottle has good beans but like most premium coffee they only do dark roast. It’s too bad that people think dark roast equals good coffee. Ritual is the only premium roaster I know that does a light roast. Way over priced but worth it for my first cup of the day. Then I switch to they crap the serve at work.

 

Dark roast generally has less caffeine that a light roast, being cooked longer.

been drinking daily since HS.

can go a day without it. no withdrawals, no headache.

drink usually just 1 20oz travel cup in morning/work.

i rarely have a cup after noon.

do not get jitters/addicted or buzzed. the health benefits are very well documented. like everything, moderation.

gal just brought back some organic kona, from....kona. it was $30 fucking bux for 6 or 8 oz and honestly was not great :/

we use a chemex + a stainless steel re-useable filter as the chemex paper filters sucked.

pretty good. plastic completely out of the equation.

some dumb hipster $4-5 cup place here we just went to said "cone drip" or whatever. fuck i've been doing that for 25+ years...ok

i used to get it at the bus stop even!. dude at hipster place pumps it from a karafe....and i'm like WTF??!!

don't know what a blue bottle is.

and starbucks is schwagg. 

ps. can't anyone just order a fucking cup of coffee????!!???QW*&$W*&@

they should have separate lines at coffe places for people that just want coffee....

 

"Caffeine exposed to film negative" - I have no idea what that means, but I've had this image for a long time. I love coffee.

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most premium coffees are of a lighter roast. way more flavorful than dark

roasts. 

All I know is if Its a good cuppa, made with good beans in say a French press, I don't add anything to it. I like it black.  I like the taste. 

I read about this shop in the city that does some crazy long cold brew thing. I guess its catching on.

Happy National Coffee Day.

Enjoy every cup!

>>>IMHO none of these vendors sell coffee as strong as Peets

I have been drinking Peets Big Bang; what other types Peets (whole bean) does anyone recommend? They have a bunch available to me.

A good coffee will taste good at any temperature. I drink it all day/all night long...

Lol. There's a bunch of old folks on San Fran who aware in Peet's, like my uncle Kevin. Last time I was there he poured me a cup and it wasn't even drinkable. Absolute trash. Pretty much on he same level as Folgers. I hope referring to people who have refined their palates to taste great coffee as "snobs" makes you feel better about drinking garbage like Pete's.

Coffee junkie or may be a caffeine addict, yes. Local roasters beans are much more flavorful. Starbucks, Peets, etc don't compare.

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That Coptic Light coffee is really good stuff.

Mango/White Chocolate and Coffee with noted bug excrements. I'll pass & take Peets, thank you

Uhh...

Bob Dylan - One More Cup Of Coffee (Live 1975 )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBSfuqPhIec

can't smoke bad cannabis. and you can't drink bad coffee. otherwise crazy shit happens. FACT! wink

finishing up some giankanja and nano challa from tim wendleboe roasters. the giankanja is all berries and floral notes, super clean and juicy w/ flavor just bursting outta dem beans. really cool and quite enjoyable, and tastes just as good iced. light roast full of terpenes. highly recommend if you can wait 6 days for beans. 

I am going to give Brooklyn Roasting Company a try.

http://www.brooklynroasting.com/

^I didn't go with BRC, they sounded like they were brokering beans and putting them in fancy cans.

So, I purchased a new very good Braun Coffee maker. Great brewer.

I have found the Porto Rico Trading Company in The Village who has been roasting beans there for over 100 years. Nice selections.

I went with the French Brazilian Bourbon Cerrado. I'll see..

http://www.portorico.com/store/coffee.html

 

My Coffee came in today from the Porto Rico Import Co. in NYC/Brooklyn

French Brazilian Bourbon Cerrado - Taste fantastic.

Roasted yesterday and here today. I'm very happy with them

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>>>>what other types Peets (whole bean) does anyone recommend?

 

Bluelight, I still stand by my favorite: Major Dickason.  I wish that Peet's brewed that every day...

 

I've tried some of the Ethiopian coffees, but I'm not quite into the fruity flavors.  Quality stuff, not doubt, but that's not my bag, Baby.

 

Also, I DO notice that some Peet's locations are better at consistent, strong brewing than others.  Unfortunately, the closest Peet's to my work is pretty uneven in the brewing quality, which can be disappointing.

 

Enjoy to blessings of coffee in whatever style you prefer.

Anyone use a Siphon or Vacuum brewing apparatus?  They are at a few places around here.

I've ordered from here for years: https://www.coffeemaria.com/

Site looks like it's 15 years old, but he roasts to your taste and free priority ships the same day he roasts. His "cinnamon roast" is the lightest I've ever ordered. Prices are exellent.

Cheap green coffee beans too.

Thanks ender.

 

That Porto Rico looks tasty.

I started doing pour overs, nothing better. IMO 

The family loved the Porto Rico Trading Co. French Brazilian Bourbon Cerrado Coffee this morning.

That was the real test.

The fresher/stronger caffeine high, pairs well and revitalizes my strain of smoke.

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two colombians in rotation this week, both roasts are superb. 

finca el mirador cosecha, roasted by neat coffee
https://store7640034.ecwid.com/Colombia-Finca-el-Mirador-Cosecha-p84342042

san jose de pedregal, roasted by george howell
https://store.georgehowellcoffee.com/coffees/san-jose-de-pedregal-colomb...

Thanks for the info lava.

I just heard the term "pour over" for the first time a couple of days ago. It's that same as drip coffee, right? If so, that's how I make my coffee. A gold filter, no paper. Bloom first, pour more. Add 1/2 and 1/2. Ahhhhhhhhh.

I think so, just all glass. A simple process, like a drip. Anyone?

The family ruled me out on the Gold filter yesterday and now back to the paper ones.

I use 1/2 & 1/2 too Judit. Love the stuff.

I've had these gold filters for so long (35 years) they've got to calling it home. :) But really, they make coffee I love. What was the reason for ruling out gold filters at your place?

They could see tiny coffee grinds at the very bottom, didn't bother me. But then we tried the paper filters, and it was very clear and purified like.

I'm very happy with the French Brazilian Bourbon Cerrado from Porto Rico Trading Company.

Their Mocha Java is on sale & picked up pound to brew for a dinner party I am hosting next week

http://www.portorico.com/store/weeklysale.html

 

A.J. Croce -Operator

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8P69BQyOcps

Anyone ever tried Kopi luwak?

 

Just went to buy a lb. of the French Bourbon Cerrado.

$18.01 cheapest shipping to my zip.

Wow!

Can't bring myself to pull the trigger at that shipping price.

Will probably stop there after getting a slice @ Bleeker st. pizza next time in the city.

They also use the US Postal mail. Picks up once week. Maybe call them at 1.800.453.5908

I like that coffee bluelight.   I have picked some up in nyc in the past.  So what time is dinner?

5:30pm 11/19 is my father's birthday dinner. Come on down!

Almost my exact birthday.   Scorpios rock!

They're good with money too.

We will celebrate your birthday as well!

I gave up coffee in January after many decades of drinking 60 ounces a day . Now I drink decaf herbal tea w diced ginger two squeezed lemons and raw honey. 

Ok , so here I am in Houston.  So when in “Rome”, I thought I’d get a bag of local roast.  I remembered a thread about Blue Island coffee from the zone.  Now I see I was mistaken.  Either way, I have tried a new coffee. It is excellent and roasted in Dallas.   They allegedly care about the beaches and such...

 

>I gave up coffee in January after many decades of drinking 60 ounces a day 

 

sounds intense. how long before you got rid of the headaches and drowsiness?

 

I have a love/hate relationship with coffee/caffeine. Was totally hooked in college and then went cold turkey because I was pissed at the grip the caffeine had on me. I dabble in chocolate espresso beans now as a late night stimulant when I'm at a show. And after getting over the flu this winter, I needed that caffeine for a jump start in the morning and got hooked again. I've been off the caffeine for a couple of weeks now, and am hella drowsy and spacey in the morning. Just makes me more determined to NOT get hooked again, and I know that once I'm over the withdrawal I'll be back to normal. A little caffeine here and there without the addiction is all I want. Fuck any substance that is addictive. And fuck those jonesing caffeine headaches. I do love my herbal tea, and on rare occasion, a caffeinated one - usually a vanilla green tea. 

i only drink free range coffee

It's an obsession but it's pleasing

Nancy, Traditional Medicinals from Sebastopol makes a great 50% green tea 50% ginger.  I get it at Wegmans.

Yum. Have fun down there. Get a tan

Since December, I haven been getting my coffee from a small family roaster in Island Park NY called East Coast Roast.

Pricey, but his Columbian is the best.  Takes only a day to get here and its still warm.  His pounds, weigh almost a pound and half. I order two pounds at time, and it takes a good size box.

http://www.ecroast.com/

>Nancy, Traditional Medicinals from Sebastopol makes a great 50% green tea 50% ginger.  I get it at Wegmans.

 

thanks, I'll check it out. I usually have cupboard stocked with YOGI teas. I buy on Vitacost.com. Typically best prices and so convenient. 

Everyone I know that was stricken with this year's strain of the flu, is suffering from from physical or mental fatigue, or both 4-6 weeks later.

This wouldn't be a good time to stop drinking coffee.

Coffee is magical.  You would wither away to nothing (or a nobody), in the intensity here in New York with out it.

Just found these guys in Bayshore Long Island.  " New York Gourmet Coffee". Inexpensive. I will try them someday

http://www.newyorkgourmetcoffee.com/coffees

 

^

I still buy from these guys. I buy 3 pounds at a shot and the shipping is free.

In fact, they drive it here themselves. I tip the kid good, this the only beverage I drink.

Anyways - My 5th coffee grinder up and died and I need a new one.

Any coffee grinder suggestions?

>> Mango/White Chocolate and Coffee with noted bug excrements. I'll pass & take Peets, thank you

Was this thought based at in reality, or: just sort of, no, not really?

funny this thread has so many responses.....addictions anyone?

 

I'm w/Judit;  Cafe Ma'am was the best coffee I've had in the last 20 plus years.  I've looked for what I had since, and don't remember the name of it, besides being cafe ma'am.  But it was served at a willamette valley farmers dinner fund raiser sort of thing in Eugene, way back.  Best cup of coffee I've had in decades.  

Turkish coffee I had in NY ~ made me want to brush my teeth.  Nice preparations, though.  

 

>>Was this thought based at in reality, or: just sort of, no, not really?

Not based on reality; the phrase is part of an SNL skit. I'll try and Google it. Pretty sure its Dan Akroyd (may have been Gilda) that spurts out the line in a very funny SNL coffee commercial bit

 

 

A man named Justus from Oregon turned me on to Cafe Mam in Kerrville Texas.   I liked it .. I ordered some a few years back and it seemed a little too roasted. Like almost burnt.

Looking forward to the big bag of Ruta Maya Coffee from Austin Texas I picked up last month.

I'm getting thirsty....

>> Any coffee grinder suggestions?

Hario hand grinder. It's a ceramic burr grinder with fine adjustment of grind possible. Very uniform result. Comes in 2 sizes. 

I've been using mine numerous times/day for 4 years now. Takes about 50 seconds to grind enough for a large french press.

Trailhead, you might try it again sometime, I find it's a mellow roast, not overly roasted. I wouldn't like that. 

P.s. Justus used to work for them, I wonder if he still does? The same group of people have a great you-pick Blueberry farm. I guess they still do, the original owner of the company died a year or two ago.

Not a fan of fancy coffee.

Al G,

I could understand that. That NY stuff I'm drinking is cheap for me - it's $8.50 a pound. I safely downgraded and saved a few dollars.

>>Hario hand grinder >>I've been using mine numerous times/day for 4 years now.

Thanks Ender. I will get one just based on that yours lasted 4 years.

Is it quiet?

 

>> Is it quiet?

It's as loud as the other hand grinder I had before it. Much quieter than anything electric.

Ender, I have the same grinder as well, and I have been using everyday for about 2.5 years. I then press it with the Aeropress. Just comes out so good!

Good Morning!

 

 

Back to my 2nd roaster - East Coast Roast.

My last vendor was just that a vendor, a bean-broker, who could not keep up with the demand.

They don't offer too many types, but this summer they added "Guatemala Summer Roast".

It's really good.

My nephew Nico just got back from a seven week trip to Guatemala, where he stayed with a host family while working at hospitals and clinics as part of his Med School program.  He told me the Guatemalans usually drink instant coffee, as the good beans get shipped out of the country to markets that will pay more for them.   While he said the rainforests and volcanic mountains were beautiful, the cities were more polluted and impoverished, and the health care more lacking, than anywhere he has ever been.

Makes sense, from what I've seen.

I spent a few winters in Guatemala back in the day.  The coffee they served in your average restaurant or comidor was so weak it was basically tinted sugar water.  Most tea you've had in life is darker.   I had a solution. I bought packets of La Jarrilita Instantaneo coffee and always added it to the cup I was served. The European travelers would look on with envy.....

Today I busted out a bag of Costa Rican store brand that was on the discontinued list. "Lessbucks" Coffee.  It was smooth and amazing.  I have recently given up adulterating my coffee. Just black, hot or cold.