A day before his live testimony, James Comey just released a written statement outlining in detail his interactions with Trump, including several rather uncomfortable one on one meetings,
Sounds like Trump really did pressure Comey to drop his investigation of Flynn and the Russians. Some interesting details, including how he asked Sessions to please not leave him alone with Trump again.
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on Wednesday, June 7, 2017 – 02:36 pm
Apparently they talked about
Apparently they talked about "that thing" they had together which sounds like maybe they robbed someone together or maybe they made out? I think I just want to follow sports from now on this stuff is on my mind too much Go Nashville Predators.
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on Wednesday, June 7, 2017 – 02:38 pm
Nothing new here at all. We
Nothing new here at all. We already know that Trump said that he hoped he could let it go because he thought Flynn was a good man, good luck getting an obstruction of justice charge out of that.
And Comey has already stated under oath that never felt any pressure to stop any investigation. He isn't about to implicate himself by changing that story in any significant way. He says he didn't feel comfortable being alone with Trump (and neither would I), but that's hardly a capital offense.
Have fun getting your expectations up for some huge revelation, it isn't going to happen.
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on Wednesday, June 7, 2017 – 02:58 pm
yeah, totally nothing to see
yeah, totally nothing to see here.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank Briank
on Wednesday, June 7, 2017 – 03:09 pm
I used to flick my brights at
I used to flick my brights at people who were speeding, to let them know a cop was up ahead. In doing so I was obstructing justice.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Johnny D skudebro
on Wednesday, June 7, 2017 – 03:11 pm
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Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: El Nino kxela
on Wednesday, June 7, 2017 – 03:11 pm
Yep Republicans would be just
Yep Republicans would be just fine if the following series of events had the name Hillary instead of Trump
Trump repeatedly demanded loyalty from the FBI director, asked that he halt his investigation into the Russia scandal, instructed other intelligence officials to pressure him to end the investigation — the precise action that forced Richard Nixon to resign — and then fired Comey for refusing to do so. Many of his associates have been caught lying about their meetings and financial ties with Russia and what they said at those meetings. His son-in-law and close adviser tried to establish a secret line of communication to Russia. All of this took place after Trump appeared on camera during the campaign asking Russia to hack his opponent’s emails.
Oh and I am now old enough to be alive when the President said to the FBI director. "I had nothing to do with those Russian Hookers"
Republicans keeping it real and classy in 2017
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Where Does The Time Go? LiquidMonkey
on Wednesday, June 7, 2017 – 03:31 pm
>>> And Comey has already
>>> And Comey has already stated under oath that never felt any pressure to stop any investigation.
That was a response to a very specific question regarding if anyone from the DOJ or FBI has ever pressured him to drop an investigation.
...and you call yourself a research librarian.
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on Wednesday, June 7, 2017 – 03:36 pm
^Trebor, Thom is just
^Trebor, Thom is just parroting the talking points from the pathetic individuals who still support this criminal administration.
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on Wednesday, June 7, 2017 – 03:38 pm
>>>>>>>>.and you call
>>>>>>>>.and you call yourself a research librarian
We alone know he's not a very good one.
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on Wednesday, June 7, 2017 – 03:44 pm
I bet he released these so
I bet he released these so Trumps still fucked if he tries to invoke executive privilege at the last moment.
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on Wednesday, June 7, 2017 – 03:47 pm
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on Wednesday, June 7, 2017 – 03:50 pm
No way
No way
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: good at drinking water infinite ignorance
on Wednesday, June 7, 2017 – 03:51 pm
>>> I used to flick my
>>> I used to flick my brights at people who were speeding, to let them know a cop was up ahead. In doing so I was obstructing justice.
in your own mind, maybe.
But not according to the law (assuming source correct): http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Obstruction+of+Justice
To obtain a conviction under section 1503, the government must prove that there was a pending federal judicial proceeding, the defendant knew of the proceeding, and the defendant had corrupt intent to interfere with or attempted to interfere with the proceeding.
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on Wednesday, June 7, 2017 – 04:15 pm
hahahaha thom is trash!
hahahaha thom is trash!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Localcountyline Localcountyline
on Wednesday, June 7, 2017 – 04:32 pm
Always party before before
Always party before before country, huh Thom.
You'd be the first to be screeching if this were Hillary or Obama.
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on Wednesday, June 7, 2017 – 04:41 pm
9 one on ones with Trump in 4
9 one on ones with Trump in 4 months, 2 with Obama in eight years.
Trump said it was improper for Bill Clinton to meet Attorney General Loretta Lynch privately because of an FBI investigation.
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on Wednesday, June 7, 2017 – 04:51 pm
>>>>I used to flick my
>>>>I used to flick my brights at people who were speeding, to let them know a cop was up ahead. In doing so I was obstructing justice.
The legality of headlight flashing to warn motorists about speed traps is discussed in this article.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headlight_flashing#United_States
Apparently, Maryland does consider the practice "obstruction of a police investigation," something the ACLU is challenging. The issue has come up in various other states and courts have generally held that attempts to stop the practice violate the 1st Amendment right of free speech. However, general restrictions against flashing high beams at oncoming cars is allowed, but only for safety purposes - not to stop people from "obstructing" a speed trap.
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on Wednesday, June 7, 2017 – 05:40 pm
^Ken, I can think of so many
^Ken, I can think of so many silly situations that don't make sense, regarding that post.
Seems to me that encouraging anyone not to break the law (or to stop breaking the law) would be a good thing.
And Hoover: I was very close to believing that memo above, until the Police Badge and Speak & Spell parts.
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on Wednesday, June 7, 2017 – 06:28 pm
You guys know that I was
You guys know that I was being kind of flip with the headlight thing, right?
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on Wednesday, June 7, 2017 – 06:44 pm
I still do the headlight
I still do the headlight flash but I really don't think that all that many people know what your doing. It still gives me a bit of joy in doing it, but not as much as passing cops in their cop cars when they are out of their jurisdiction and heading home after their shift.
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on Wednesday, June 7, 2017 – 06:55 pm
That explains a lot Brian k.
That explains a lot Brian k.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ender
on Wednesday, June 7, 2017 – 08:07 pm
>> But not according to the
>> But not according to the law (assuming source correct): http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Obstruction+of+Justice
>> To obtain a conviction under section 1503, the government must prove that there was a pending federal judicial proceeding, the defendant knew of the proceeding, and the defendant had corrupt intent to interfere with or attempted to interfere with the proceeding.
Why are you quoting federal statues? It's state or local laws that's applicable.
In the United States, the legality of headlight flashing varies from state to state. Some states consider that drivers have a First Amendment right to flash their headlights. In other states, law enforcement officers give citations for headlight flashing under three types of laws: (1) laws prohibiting a person from obstructing a police investigation, (2) laws prohibiting a person from having flashing lights on their vehicle, and (3) laws prohibiting shining a vehicle’s high beams at oncoming traffic. The specific language of each law varies by state along with courts’ holdings on whether their respective laws prohibit headlight flashing. Additionally, although not legally binding, the state driver’s manual of some states suggests flashing high beams under specific scenarios (e.g. if an oncoming vehicle is using its high beams, driver’s manuals suggest a motorist flash his or her high beams momentarily).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headlight_flashing
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: good at drinking water infinite ignorance
on Wednesday, June 7, 2017 – 08:35 pm
The issue was whether Trump
The issue was whether Trump obstructed justice, correct? Which would be federal. (BK implied that blinking lights was obstruction of justice, in the context of Trump.)
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on Wednesday, June 7, 2017 – 10:22 pm
ender seems like a guy that
ender seems like a guy that would be fun to party with.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ________ Heybrochacho
on Wednesday, June 7, 2017 – 10:29 pm
>ender seems like a guy that
>ender seems like a guy that would be fun to party with.
He likes to google stuff.
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on Wednesday, June 7, 2017 – 10:32 pm
What about the courteous
What about the courteous headlight wink when you pass or are passed by a trucker to signal a clear for lane change?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Back to Back UncleSam
on Wednesday, June 7, 2017 – 11:01 pm
One take on obstruction of
One take on obstruction of justice from a guy who would know: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/former-watergate-prosecutor-come...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: spectrums of cage free range T.O.D.
on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 07:16 am
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: spectrums of cage free range T.O.D.
on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 07:28 am
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ausonius Thom2
on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 08:02 am
The Senate Intelligence
The Senate Intelligence Committee released James Comey’s prepared testimony a day early on Wednesday, and it looks like a test of whether Washington can apprehend reality except as another Watergate. Perhaps the defrocked FBI director has a bombshell still to drop. But far from documenting an abuse of power by President Trump, his prepared statement reveals Mr. Comey’s misunderstanding of law enforcement in a democracy.
Mr. Comey’s seven-page narrative recounts his nine encounters with the President-elect and then President, including an appearance at Trump Tower, a one-on-one White House dinner and phone calls. He describes how he briefed Mr. Trump on the Russia counterintelligence investigation and what he calls multiple attempts to “create some sort of patronage relationship.”
But at worst Mr. Comey’s account of Mr. Trump reveals a willful and naive narcissist who believes he can charm or subtly intimidate the FBI director but has no idea how Washington works. This is not new information.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-independent-mr-comey-1496878266
Noi, it's not. But we have to continue this charade, don't we? When a major party is reduced to babbling about supposed crimes of "collusion" they have to do all that they can to keep the fantasy alive.
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 08:06 am
(No subject)
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Lucky Day Timmy Hoover
on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 08:54 am
>>>>>>Noi, it's not. But we
>>>>>>Noi, it's not. But we have to continue this charade, don't we? When a major party is reduced to babbling about supposed crimes of "collusion" they have to do all that they can to keep the fantasy alive.
BENGHAZI1!1!1!1!1
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ogkb pyramidheat
on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 08:58 am
man, thom is a mess.
man, thom is a mess.
his unabashed trump support probably does a number on his family psyhe.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _________ Plf9905
on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 09:10 am
Comey Drinking and Watching
Comey Drinking and Watching Parties
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/consumer/bars-host-comey-hearing-watch-p...
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 09:36 am
Ship of Fools.....
Ship of Fools.....
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: spectrums of cage free range T.O.D.
on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 09:40 am
(No subject)
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 09:43 am
Hard to believe anyone could
Hard to believe anyone could actually get a ticket or be arrested fro flashing their high beams. Who's gonna see you? The cop in question can't see you, obviously. Another cop who just happened to be nearby? How could he prove your intent? Keep on flashing, folks.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: spectrums of cage free range T.O.D.
on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 09:44 am
^^^ Everytime you hear one of
^^^ Everytime you hear one of these Republifuck talking points... DRINK!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: cb shuffle
on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 09:54 am
Oh Thom!
Oh Thom!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkhPuH8G5Hg
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sigmund SeaMonster
on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 10:11 am
Tuck Frump !!!
Tuck Frump !!!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: good at drinking water infinite ignorance
on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 10:20 am
game face:
game face:
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: 2 Room Shack Turtle
on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 10:22 am
oh yeah the blowjobs. don't
oh yeah the blowjobs. don't forget we investigated blow jobs...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 10:22 am
Speaking of high beams, I was
From blow jobs to golden showers...and treason.
Speaking of high beams, I was Biking early this morning and an approaching car had one headlight out. I attempted to alert the driver with some rudimentary hand signals - the driver just looked confused when As I was covering one boob.
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 10:23 am
^^^ That Dude Is Gnarly ! and
Game face...
^^^ That Dude Is Gnarly ! and 19,000 Times Smarter Than Trump !!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: good at drinking water infinite ignorance
on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 10:24 am
Warenr was apparently reading
Warner didn't get the memo that you aren't supposed to use wiki, he was apparently reading from:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 10:29 am
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ausonius Thom2
on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 10:30 am
Neither former President
Neither former President Barack Obama nor any member of his cabinet warned state election officials of any Russian effort to hack or interfere with the country’s electoral systems, according to the president of the National Association of Secretaries of State.
“We did ask,” Denise Merrill, Connecticut secretary of state and the association’s top official, told The Daily Caller News Foundation’s Investigative Group Wednesday.
"And over-and-over again, they did say there was no credible threat that they had found. And they said that right through the election, and the next administration reiterated that. Over and over again when we asked, we were told there was no actual threat that they knew of,” Merrill said.
Asked if there were any private briefings for state election officials on possible Russian interference prior to the November 2016 voting, Merrill said, “No. We were not briefed on any of that. We were not told in advance.”
Merrill also claimed the administration failed to take state officials aside about a potential or real Russian threat to election machinery.
“That’s right, because I don’t really think there was one,” she said.
Merrill is a Democrat who previously served as majority leader in the Connecticut House of Representatives. In addition to serving as president of the association representing all of her fellow secretaries of state, she also is co-chairman of the group’s Election Cybersecurity Task Force.
Obama’s former Secretary of Homeland Security Jeh Johnson seemed to confirm Merrill’s comments. He was quoted Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press” in an NBC tweet saying “Fmr DHS Sec. Jeh Johnson says there was “no altering of voter counts” in 2016 election. ‘I know of no such evidence.'
http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/07/exclusive-obama-never-warned-state-ele...
This only became an "issue" after Hillary choked on the biggest Presidential upset in history and the left had to create both an excuse for that loss as well as a meme to obstruct the Trump administration from accomplishing anything.
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 10:32 am
sad Thom, just so sad,
sad Thom, just so sad,
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: spectrums of cage free range T.O.D.
on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 10:39 am
Thom, Even a RAT knows when
Thom, Even a RAT knows when to abandon a sinking ship...
Hope you're wearing your water wings lil buddy!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 10:48 am
blame the messenger!
blame the messenger!
Can't wait to see what fake news/conspiracy theories Trump/Putin start spreading about Comey.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: cb shuffle
on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 10:57 am
No tweets from the fake
No tweets from the fake president as of yet, they must've got him a fidget spinner.
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 10:59 am
haha
haha
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 11:00 am
18 Minutes
18 Minutes
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly Orange County Lumber Truck
on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 11:11 am
>This only became an "issue" after Hillary choked on the biggest Presidential upset in history and the left had to create both an excuse for that loss as well as a meme to obstruct the Trump administration from accomplishing anything.<
Comey said it became an "issue" for the FBI in 2015.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bucky Badger On Wisconsin
on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 11:15 am
Comet seems pretty pissed I
Comet seems pretty pissed I wonder if trump told him that this is business, not personal. Sometimes that helps.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: good at drinking water infinite ignorance
on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 11:19 am
https://twitter.com
https://twitter.com/ericgeller/status/872833660986294279
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: That’s Nancy with the laughin’ face Nancyinthesky
on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 11:30 am
Trump Jr is tweeting for his
Trump Jr is tweeting for his daddy and smearing Comey's testimony.
somebody has to give the faithful like Thom their talking points.
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 11:39 am
The daily caller....
The daily caller....
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: good at drinking water infinite ignorance
on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 12:09 pm
https://twitter.com
https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/872846825623089152
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 12:21 pm
Clinton emails.... Lol
Clinton emails.... Lol
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ender
on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 12:35 pm
Twitter doesn't leave enough
Twitter doesn't leave enough room for context/full answers:
“Do you believe Donald Trump colluded with Russia?” Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR) asked.
“That’s a question I don’t think I should answer in an open setting,” Comey replied. “When I left, we did not have an investigation focused on President Trump. But that’s a question that’ll be answered by the investigation, I think.”
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 12:38 pm
Do you think that the full
1) there was video attached to the tweet. I presume it had full response (I can't view it due to techincal difficulties).
2) Do you think that the full response implies a different meaning than the twitter version, ender?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: cb shuffle
on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 12:38 pm
McCain is going senile, time
McCain is going senile, time to hang it up John.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: spectrums of cage free range T.O.D.
on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 12:38 pm
JFC! McCain...
JFC! McCain...
Go take a nap!!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Bucky Badger On Wisconsin
on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 12:41 pm
Maybe someone should look at
Maybe someone should look at McCain during the break, he might need concussion protocol or something
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ender
on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 12:47 pm
>> Do you think that the full
>> Do you think that the full response implies a different meaning than the twitter version, ender?
Yes.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: good at drinking water infinite ignorance
on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 12:47 pm
Ok, ender (or anybody) , I
>>>Yes
In what way was the tweet misleading, ender?
meanwhile:
Ok, ender (or anybody) , I can't see the video on this one, I am honestly interested in whether this tweet is an accurate summary (the tweet should have the entire answer in the video, but again, I can't view the video - Jaffy is NBC news):
https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/872854808373415936
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: _ ender
on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 12:54 pm
>> In what way was the tweet
>> In what way was the tweet misleading, ender?
The tweet image suggested he wasn't answering because it was an open setting. He wasn't answering because an investigation was pending.
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 12:56 pm
>> I am honestly interested
>> I am honestly interested in whether this tweet is an accurate summary
Yes, it is.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ausonius Thom2
on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 01:27 pm
The president can, as a
Alan Dershowitz.....
The president can, as a matter of constitutional law, direct the attorney general, and his subordinate, the Director of the FBI, tell them what to do, whom to prosecute and whom not to prosecute. Indeed, the president has the constitutional authority to stop the investigation of any person by simply pardoning that person.
Assume, for argument’s sake, that the president had said the following to Comey: "You are no longer authorized to investigate Flynn because I have decided to pardon him." Would that exercise of the president's constitutional power to pardon constitute a criminal obstruction of justice? Of course not. presidents do that all the time.
The first President Bush pardoned Casper Weinberger, his Secretary of Defense, in the middle of an investigation that could have incriminated Bush. That was not an obstruction and neither would a pardon of Flynn have been a crime. A president cannot be charged with a crime for properly exercising his constitutional authority
For the same reason President Trump cannot be charged with obstruction for firing Comey, which he had the constitutional authority to do.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/06/07/dershowitz-comeys-statement-fa...
Comey confirmed that under our Constitution, the president has the authority to direct the FBI to stop investigating any individual. I paraphrase, because the transcript is not yet available: the president can, in theory, decide who to investigate, who to stop investigating, who to prosecute and who not to prosecute. The president is the head of the unified executive branch of government, and the Justice Department and the FBI work under him and he may order them to do what he wishes.
As a matter of law, Comey is 100 percent correct. As I have long argued, and as Comey confirmed in his written statement, our history shows that many presidents—from Adams to Jefferson, to Lincoln, to Roosevelt, to Kennedy, to Bush 1, and to Obama – have directed the Justice Department with regard to ongoing investigations. The history is clear, the precedents are clear, the constitutional structure is clear, and common sense is clear.
Yet virtually every Democratic pundit, in their haste to “get” President Trump, has willfully ignored these realities. In doing so they have endangered our civil liberties and constitutional rights.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/06/08/dershowitz-comey-confirms-that...
Just right. Those going after a President they hate on spurious charges are a greater threat to our Constitutional system of government than Donald Trump will ever be.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ParadiseWaits Dise
on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 01:30 pm
I wasn't able to see the
I wasn't able to see the whole thing, was there a smoking gun? Interested in seeing Kamala's part, anyone know the time stamp for her?
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 01:32 pm
^^This is business, not
^^This is business, not personal^^
Tom Higgins to Sonny Corleone after the Don's assassination attempt failed....
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: cb shuffle
on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 02:05 pm
Harris asked about other
Harris asked about other meetings and contacts between Trump's people and Russians that haven't been reported on.
Comey said he couldn't answer that in open session, Dise.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ParadiseWaits Dise
on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 02:13 pm
So no smoking gun. :/
So no smoking gun. :(
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: spectrums of cage free range T.O.D.
on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 02:19 pm
>> just right. Those going
>> just right. Those going after a President they hate on spurious charges are a greater threat to our Constitutional system of government than Donald Trump will ever be.
Thom, That's some "Snowflake" shit right there!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ausonius Thom2
on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 02:28 pm
What this is rea;ly all about
What this is really all about...
The Democratic Party Is in Worse Shape Than You Thought
Sifting through the wreckage of the 2016 election, Democratic pollsters, strategists and sympathetic academics have reached some unnerving conclusions.
What the autopsy reveals is that Democratic losses among working class voters were not limited to whites; that crucial constituencies within the party see its leaders as alien; and that unity over economic populism may not be able to turn back the conservative tide.
Equally disturbing, winning back former party loyalists who switched to Trump will be tough: these white voters’ views on immigration and race are in direct conflict with fundamental Democratic tenets.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/08/opinion/the-democratic-party-is-in-wo...
From that well known bastion of right wing reactionary journalism The New York Times.
The left can not abide that it legitimately lost an election to the likes of Donald Trump and will do everything in its power to negate their loss of power and hinder the Trump administrations ability to implement its agenda. The press is more than happy to collude with their Democratic allies in this endeavor and have assisted in keeping alive the fiction that Trump's presidency is illegitimate because of supposed Russian interference with the electoral process. The Democratic Party is losing power and influence on a daily basis and this is nothing more than the dying throes of a once proud and respectable party. It's pathetic that they have to push this kind of nonsense in order to appear relevant, and they should be ashamed of their obstruction of a legitimately elected President. But whatever gene is responsible for shame was eliminated from the left's DNA a long time ago.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ParadiseWaits Dise
on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 02:28 pm
Why on earth would anyone
Why on earth would anyone consider trump presidential and want his shit parade to go on?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: spectrums of cage free range T.O.D.
on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 02:29 pm
>> So no smoking gun. :(
>> So no smoking gun. :(
Give it a full watch when you get a minute...
If not just cuz it's history.
#JamesComey laid out facts for Obstruction of Justice that even a first-time prosecutor could convict on with little difficulty.
On #ComeyDay, he laid out the facts for Obstruction & Abuse of Power. Fun fact: Those were the first two Articles of Impeachment for Nixon.
- Ted Lieu via Twitter
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 02:30 pm
Thom will you change your
Thom will you change your (borrowed) opinion if it turns out Trumps campaign was colluding with the Russians during the election?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: ParadiseWaits Dise
on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 02:32 pm
Yeah tod, I asked for the
TOD, I asked for the time stamp for the part I missed, and also if I missed a smoking gun. I'm not watching the whole thing again just because I missed Harris' question go unanswered. I would be interested in seeing the part I missed, which was Harris' part..and a smoking gun in Comey's testimony. Got a time stamp? :)
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 02:35 pm
It's too late for Thom. His
It's too late for Thom. His head is so far up his ass he'd lose his ears if he tried to pull it out.
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 02:45 pm
Bigger than a smoking gun...
Bigger than a smoking gun...
Harris' being a Freshman Senator went at the end due to Seniority...
Can't help with the time stamp. Bandwidth challenged.
Listened to it via Satellite Radio.
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 02:47 pm
Tom Higgins to Sonny Corleone
Tom Higgins to Sonny Corleone after the Don's assassination attempt failed....)))))
It's Tom Hagen not Higgins
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 02:50 pm
Trump Jr melting all over
Trump Jr melting all over twitter.
Someone get him a Viva handle.
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 02:51 pm
That's correct it is Tom
That's correct it is Tom Hagen and not only was he not a war-time consigliere he wasn't even Sicilian which is pretty crazy considering how far he moved up.
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 02:52 pm
No smoking gun IMHO, but
No smoking gun IMHO, but pretty close on the issue of whether Trump tried to intimidate Comey with a thinly veiled threat that he would be fired unless (1) he gave an oath of loyalty and (2) dropped the Flynn investigation. Will that by itself lead to charges of obstruction of justice? Probably not considering the heavy burden of proof in any criminal matter, but doesn't look good.
Also doesn't look good when the head of the FBI considers the president a "liar."
Funny how some on the committee kept trying to bring up the old Hillary email stuff, but the revelation that former Attorney General Lynch actively tried to control the narrative should give conspiracy theorists some new ammunition to keep beating that dead horse.
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 02:54 pm
^^Have fun getting your
^^Have fun getting your expectations up for some huge revelation, it isn't going to happen.
Thom was spot on with yesterdays assessment.
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 02:58 pm
Bigger than a smoking gun...<
Bigger than a smoking gun...<<
If it isn't enough to hang trump as a traitor, it's not a smoking gun. It doesn't sound like I missed anything big.
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 02:58 pm
I'm not sure what some people
I'm not sure what some people expected? Comey producing a pic of Trump handing money to Boris and Natasha??
It's pretty fucking obvious that there was collusion . But yeah, Fuck Hillary!! Amirite???
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 03:02 pm
I expected to hear something
I expected to hear something more damning, frankly. You didn't?
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 03:05 pm
>>expected to hear something
>>expected to hear something more damning, frankly. You didn't?
It would burn off both yours ears
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 03:09 pm
lol cb, yeah the trump jr.
lol cb, yeah the trump jr. twitter spaz is way more smoking gun-like than the actual hearing, dude looks guilty AF losing his shit like that all morning while his psychotic dad has somehow managed not to post for once. Do you think they had to lock trump in the closet today? Seems likely.
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 03:12 pm
i hope you can let this go
i hope you can let this go that i did not have sexual relations with that woman...
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 03:13 pm
We all know you inhaled,
We all know you inhaled, WALSTIB. Stop trying to change the subject.
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 03:16 pm
>> I expected to hear
>> I expected to hear something more damning, frankly. You didn't?
I think today was about getting it on the record and under oath vs. the sprint...
Lil Donny tic-tacs will go out and spray whatever the fuck he wants.
Knowing damn well he won't have to speak under oath.
It's looking like a marathon, not a sprint....
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 03:24 pm
"the revelation that former
"the revelation that former Attorney General Lynch actively tried to control the narrative should give conspiracy theorists some new ammunition"
Aren't we supposed to be looking for obstruction of justice? If the bit about Lynch is a revelation of a cover up, shouldn't it be investigated as well? Make no mistake, I want them all to be prosecuted if they abused their position, not just our clown in chief.
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 03:34 pm
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 03:34 pm
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 03:54 pm
Even Chris Matthews is
Even Chris Matthews is starting to deal with reality.....
Chris Matthews: Trump-Russia collusion theory 'came apart' with Comey testimony
Liberal MSNBC host Chris Matthews said Thursday the accusation that President Trump directly colluded with Russia to interfere in the U.S. election "came apart" following former FBI Director James Comey's testimony in front of Congress.
In his written and spoken testimony on Thursday, Comey said that he never felt that Trump had tried to impede the FBI's investigation into Russia, even that the president had encouraged it and he suggested that former national security adviser Mike Flynn wasn't at the heart of the investigation.
"The assumption of the critics of the president, of his pursuers, you might say, is that somewhere along the line in the last year is the president had something to do with colluding with the Russians … to affect the election in some way," Matthews said on MSNBC, following the testimony.
"And yet what came apart this morning was that theory," Matthews said, listing two reasons why. First, he said Comey revealed that "Flynn wasn't central to the Russian investigation," and secondly, he said that kills the idea that Flynn might have been in a position to testify against Trump.
"And if that's not the case, where's the there-there?" Matthews said.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/chris-matthews-trump-russia-collusion-...
Indeed. Where is the "there" there?
If you've lost Chris Matthews it's time to abandon ship.
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 04:02 pm
Does anyone else think McCain
Does anyone else think McCain was drunk at the hearing? My dad had two strokes a week ago and is more coherent than McCain was. At least dad knows the name of our POTUS.
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 04:09 pm
How about we tune into what
How about we tune into what Fox News said.
On the one hand, Wallace said, “If I were Donald Trump's lawyer, I'd be pretty happy because repeatedly, and up to the day he was fired, Comey says there is no evidence that led to an investigation of Donald Trump. He was not under investigation and on the question of obstruction of justice, he said that's an open question that will have to be decided by the special counsel, Robert Mueller.”
But “politically,” Wallace added, “I thought it was very damaging to the president.”
“Repeatedly, James Comey called the president a liar, said that he lied about that the FBI was in disarray, that he defamed him and the FBI, said that the reason he kept those kinds of notes in the first place is that he thought this was the kind of man who would lie about those kinds of things,” he continued. “Not good stuff to have said on national television.”
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 04:14 pm
Hmmm I wonder why?
Hmmm I wonder why?
Comey testified that Trump never once showed any interest in the FBI’s investigation of Russia’s interference with the 2016 election.
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 04:34 pm
Or Andrew Napolitano , Fox
Or Andrew Napolitano , Fox pundit and personal friend of Trump
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/judge-napolitano-credible-and-compelling-case...
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 04:40 pm
http://talkingpointsmemo.com
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/comey-declines-to-say-trump-russia...
If he did not believe Trump colluded with Russia, Comey could have replied "no" (or, not on the basis of things I know...).
He did not say "no".
He could have said "no", or he could simply have deferred to Mueller. He's a very careful lawyer, his words mean things.
Does that mean he does think Trump colluded, but is not able to explain why in a non-classified setting?
Or, as Chis Mattews is spinning, does it mean he thinks trump is clean?
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 04:58 pm
^^^ ooops, I meant Chris
^^^ ooops, I meant Chris Wallace, my bad.
Jennifer Rubin (that well known leftist) is basically asking the same question as I am about that "collusion" question: https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2017/06/08/what-comey-would-not-say-is-critical
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 05:01 pm
The 9 am open bars out here
The 9 am open bars out here were packed with folks watching
covfefe cocktails- orange juice with vodka
themed FBI French toast
shirts saying Comey is my Homey
where ya at, Bannon, Ivana and Jared?!
making America great:(
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 05:01 pm
COMEY IS A BADASS ! = GNARLY
COMEY IS A BADASS ! = GNARLY !!
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 05:04 pm
CIMH
CIMH
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 05:15 pm
>>> "the revelation that
>>> "the revelation that former Attorney General Lynch actively tried to control the narrative should give conspiracy theorists some new ammunition"
>>> Aren't we supposed to be looking for obstruction of justice? If the bit about Lynch is a revelation of a cover up, shouldn't it be investigated as well? Make no mistake, I want them all to be prosecuted if they abused their position, not just our clown in chief.
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/08/full-text-james-comey-trump-rus...
...
Re Clinton and special counsel, Comey said "no case there", twice.
Now contrast that to his feelings about special counsel here:
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 05:20 pm
He also said "Lots of people
He also said "Lots of people have different views about it" which makes his personal opinion on the matter less than universal.
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 05:22 pm
I think his admission to
I think his admission to deliberately leaking to the public through a "friend" further weakens the authenticity of his testimony, unfortunately. YMMV
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 05:47 pm
Comey is smart - it must be
Comey is smart and knows the law - it must be perfectly legal to "leak" his own notes ( assuming it wasn't classified material) otherwise he wouldn't have done it.
This Pence revelation is a good one.
Boom.
>Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR) just pulled Vice President Mike Pence into the heart of the Russia investigation, asking former FBI Director James Comey whether Pence was aware of the concerns about Mike Flynn's Russia connections both prior to and during his brief tenure in the administration—that is during the transition. Which Mike Pence directed.
Comey: "My understanding is that he was."
That undermines Pence's claim that he was totally ignorant of Pence's Russia ties and that Flynn had lied to him about it. That supposed lie, remember, was the justification Trump gave for firing Flynn.
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/6/8/1669982/-Comey-says-Pence-was-a...
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 05:50 pm
Who are you voting for, Nancy
Who are you voting for, Nancy?
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 05:50 pm
I wasn't questioning the
I wasn't questioning the legality of the leak, but more the appearance of enlightened self-interest.
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 05:51 pm
Comey suggesting that there
Comey suggesting that there’s some truth to allegations in the explosive Trump dossier also.
“I don’t think that’s a question I can answer in an open setting.”
Release the Pee tapes, just so we can see all the religious GOP nutjobs defending Trump on that one!
Oh, but we all just need to forgive Trump because he's new to Government..and religion.
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 05:56 pm
Comey suggesting everything
Comey suggesting everything journalists are reporting about this Russia thing is incorrect is also troubling. If they have it all wrong then what is the real story?
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 05:58 pm
The GOP religious right
The GOP religious right defended incest pedo Josh Duggar...
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 05:59 pm
Comey suggested that one New
Comey suggested that one New York Times article got it wrong, not everything that the journalists are reporting. This investigation is still in it's infancy, give it time.
The way that Comey was speaking makes it seem likely that he knows that Trump has recordings of all the conversation. Or did.
(((18 1/2 Minutes))
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 06:00 pm
>>>>“I don’t think that’s a question I can answer in an open setting.”
i need to remember that one for future reference
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 06:02 pm
DT " Follow Me "
DT " Follow Me "
JC " Hell No "
DT " You're Fired "
JC " Oh Yeah "
there is the summary
stay tuned
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 06:04 pm
Cant Mike Flynn testifying
Cant Mike Flynn testifying all that he knows, bring all of this Administration down?
is that possible?
whaf does he have to lose at this point
only 50 years in jail?
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 06:07 pm
Hmm that wasn't what I got
Hmm that wasn't what I got out of it, though he did say outright NYT article was incorrect he went on to say to (I'm paraphrasing) something to the effect that the media are reporting on something they don't know the actual facts of, and being an ongoing FBI investigation that he/the agency wasn't able to tell them what they should be reporting on in order to be factual. I'll see if I can find the quote.
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 06:07 pm
Did Fox News ban Bill Kristol
Did Fox News ban Bill Kristol?
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on Thursday, June 8, 2017 – 06:11 pm
In his Thursday testimony
In his Thursday testimony before the Senate Intelligence Committee, former FBI director James B. Comey said that a controversial New York Times story in February about alleged contacts between Trump intimates and Russian officials was bogus. “In the main, it was not true,” he said.
“The challenge, and I’m not picking on reporters, about writing stories about classified information is the people talking about it often don’t really know what’s going on and those of us who actually know what’s going on are not talking about it,” said Comey during questioning from Sen. James Risch (R-Idaho). “And we don’t call the press and say, ‘Hey, you got that thing wrong.’ ”
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on Friday, June 9, 2017 – 06:44 am
Meanwhile, while the sideshow
Meanwhile, while the sideshow is going on Congress is busy repealing Dodd Frank.