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Andrew Cuomo, aka 'governor grandma killer' has had a few close calls with taking questions he doesn't like and angrily arguing in a condescending manner towards reporters that attempt to ask him tough questions. ..aimed at gatherings of people..parties etc.

Now this snowstorm..I think he's gonna flip out

 

..and I'm listening to this new Tom Cruise rant on set of a movie he's filming. .and he's laying into these staffers calling them mother fuckers and threatening to fire them  for not scial distancing..(I guess it's essential for all these tv shows and movies carry on 'amid' the pandemic to push the social justice theme on every current/new tv show and commercial currently out there. I notice that not everyone is wearing a mask and are not social distancing while filming..)

Well  I'm thinking to myself how impossible it is to enforce all of these covid rules and watching Cuomo getting angrier every response it seems so similar to little tom cruise the scientologist wig out on his employees. .

So what's next? because the lockdowns aren't working now and they didn't work before. 

Of course it seems the covid pandemic  is teaching us to get used to being barked at by our leaders....and that's what they are going to need to do to get people to comply with these  crazy rules. Keeping kids home from school and closing down small business but its cool for Hollywood to keep filming .

And these governors are nuts..mad with power ..having been given absolute power they were corrupted absolutely.  That's how it works.  Look at Whitmer. The Michigan Supreme Court struck down her emergency power and ended her lock down, the liberal media bareley reported it and she callled the ruling a 'challenge', then went foward with more lock downs this time ordered by the mich health dept which precedes all law it seems which is run by someone she appointed.  Btw.just like our dem secof state ordered all the voter info cleared/deleted from the dominion machines after certifying and giving electoral college. ..another whitmer appointee.

But they are just pushing those that can't push back.  These restaurants/small business don't have Unions or representaion. Again, whitmer had every thing locked way down this spring but when the UAW threatened to throw support to Trump it suddenly was ok for the auto factories to open back up and get people back to work. ..

But those that cannot have their voices heard have had to put up with her condescending pompous tone as she still prances around like the State Supreme Court ruling means nothing. 

If Trump told America what he told Bob Woodward in Feb, festivals like Mardi Gras would have been canceled, along with a long list of concerts and other events, add a shut down in the early stages, and we'd likely have saved hundreds of thousands of American lives (along with quite a few musical legends).

 

If they told us that this was a vascular disease that causes blood clots and leaky vessels, and attacked many body parts, not just the lungs, then maybe folks would have taken the mask wearing and hand washing seriously, and hundreds of thousands of Americans would still be alive...

 

Only conservatives said it was just like the flu, only flus attack epithelial tissues (throat, sinus, GI tract, lungs, etc), which flush with mucous (or Nausea / vomiting, diarrhea, how charming)....  that has nothing to do with blood clots killing your lungs / kidneys, strokes / heart attacks....   

 

If the President was honest in the first place (something he's completely incapable of doing), we would have been able to go back to work months ago like the countries that did do complete shutdowns early on (or at worse, a fall shut down for flu season).

Well, it's a mute point now, and areas where T had his maskless rallies are now the largest per capita virus sites in the nation, too bad those small hospitals aren't equipped for this plague, might be a lot of dead republicans come spring...  all preventable!   

Shamey finger out and engaged!!!

Yes the unhinged tirades and general poor treatment of reporters should be left to Trump

how impossible it is to enforce all of these covid rules>>>>>>>>>>>>

It is impossible to enforce, it is upon ourselves to do the right thing.

The problem is Americans want their "freedoms" they are selfish, ignorant a very short minded. We will NEVER get over this out of control pandemic where every country in the world is looking at us like were fuckin morons.

Yes Trump and his crack pot team did NOT do the right thing from travel bans (late to the party) to being honest, to not having and 8 months later still don't have any kind of playbook or plan.

As the Pandemic rages our country Trump is just bitchin about an election and not even giving a fuck about the situation we are in.

Fuck Trump and about 80% of the money hungry politicians that we have.

And the next time some asshole tells me the Covid is 99.97% survival and is like the flu......I'll gut em.

The grandma killer thing is so stupid.  He didn't put those people in nursing homes their families did.  When they were released from the hospital they went back to where they lived.  That is in no way the fault of the states Governor. 

g-reg...what is your favorite GD show from 1994?

Chris Cuomo hates being called Fredo. 

"Covid has a 99% survival rate! What is the big freaking deal?!?"

Your Southwest Airlines flight taxis and reaches a cruising altitude of 32,500 feet.

Two passengers chosen at random are shot in the head and killed.

The rest of the passengers are terrified and screaming.

The pilot's voice comes on over the intercom:

"Ladies and gentleman, this flight has a 99% survival rate! What is the big freaking deal?!?"

 

 

 

Living a state over, I can't speak for NY State folks,  but the general consensus is that no one really likes that [politician] very much.

Its latest feat was to shut down toilettes in restaurants,  which will make everything much more Clean.

https://nypost.com/2020/12/18/gov-cuomo-bars-diners-from-eatery-bathroom...

Read for yourself and decide if it's a great or poor decision.

No one should be allowed to pee or wash their hands,  I suppose.  It's going to improve Health.

Talk about opening ones mouth and removing all doubt, greggie.

Greg

 

just very sad 

It's like a daily case of Talking Points Diarrhea.

I get the feeling he's going to roll out another lame attempt at a catchphrase as well.

 

Very sad is right.

Does this smell like root beer?

I read it for myself, Stu. Did you, or did you just read the headline?

Mayor de Blasio was even more blunt, calling the edict “stupid.”

“Every one one of us needs to use the restroom sometimes,” the mayor said at his daily press briefing Friday. 

“There’s no question that was a mistake. I don’t know the nuances of how it happened, it’s just stupid.”

“Obviously, people need to use the bathroom, and if you’re patronizing a restaurant you have a right to use the bathroom,” de Blasio said. 

“That’s been cleared up,” he added, summing up, “Sometimes, common sense has to rule the day.”

Indeed, Rigie confirmed to The Post on Friday morning that the guidance was changed by the State Liquor Authority overnight, albeit very quietly and buried in a question-and-answer section.

I remember the Metro stations in Paris as having the most civilized public restrooms I had ever seen when I was there in the early 80s. Many of them had attendants who stood ready with hand towels, as well as lotions, colognes, and other toiletries available for a few francs, and some of the stations even had showers. It was quite a contrast to the scant and scuzzy options available if you needed to take a leak in many major US cities.

Coming in a close second (worst in the country behind cuomo)...

Governor whitmer uses a fake santa to push her agenda:

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/governor-whitmer-uses-santa-to-tell-...

 

..she could have at least found a Santa with a real beard.

Would they be better people if they were Republican? 

 

 

 

NATIONAL SECURITY

Right-Wing Embrace Of Conspiracy Is 'Mass Radicalization,' Experts Warn

 

The widespread embrace of conspiracy and disinformation amounts to a "mass radicalization" of Americans, and increases the risk of right-wing violence, veteran security officials and terrorism researchers warn.

At conferences, in op-eds and at agency meetings, domestic terrorism analysts are raising concern about the security implications of millions of conservatives buying into baseless right-wing claims. They say the line between mainstream and fringe is vanishing, with conspiracy-minded Republicans now marching alongside armed extremists at rallies across the country. Disparate factions on the right are coalescing into one side, analysts say, self-proclaimed "real Americans" who are cocooned in their own news outlets, their own social media networks and, ultimately, their own "truth."

While it's impossible to pin down the scope of such beliefs, analysts say, the numbers are staggering if even a fraction of President Trump's more than 74 million voters support bogus claims that say, for example, the election was rigged, the coronavirus is a hoax, and liberals are hatching a socialist takeover.

Traffic numbers for right-wing outlets and livestreams suggest the support extends well beyond the margins. Recent polls also signal the spread: One survey found that around 77% of Trump supporters believe that Joe Biden won the election as a result of fraud despite no evidence to support that claim.

On the conference call, the analysts agreed that the leftist fringe also is hardening and promoting its own conspiracies. But they said there's simply no equivalency with the right in terms of the volume of disinformation and conspiracy, or in its connections to violent acts.

"There is a monetization of outrage on both sides," Neumann said, "but in particular the conservative infotainment sector makes money off of that outrage.

 

https://www.npr.org/2020/12/15/946381523/right-wing-embrace-of-conspirac...

 

 

 

^ Lol. Every single media station has been making money off of conservative nuts like trump for the last four years including NPR. Most likely they will ride the Trump narrative well past Jan 20 with no shame just keep collecting money from it. They are in the same trash train. 
 

I'm not afraid of rednecks claiming a conspiracy at a rally and don't lose sleep over it. The media wishes it was more than it is and are trying to bait violence that didn't happen yet. Pretty sad.

 

^national security experts seemed concerned,  but if you're not losing sleep over it, it must be ok.

 

 

^They just want to be in the headlines as much as you want to be dictated by fear. You won't remember it in three years. Stay away from the government.

What's Your Parler name Zoners?

 

Well, Timpane,  I don't want to be dictated by fear, so I'm thinking the first part of your statement is also incorrect. 

 

But that's par for the course 

 

 

Live in fear "experts say". See how easy it is to manipulate people nowadays? People need to stop shooting up news stories in the morning. It just leaves you high and dry by the end of the afternoon.

 

^except the names and backgrounds of these experts are mentioned in the article.  Spoiler...they know more than either of us on this subject. 

 

And I read this story days ago, and it still lingers...

DAMN MY READING RETENTION!!!

 

 

I wasn't impressed with their credentials or their opinions. Glad they got their 15 mins in fame. Hope you enjoyed it. 

 

Enjoy? I'm going to enjoy a relaxing day. Maybe make some cookies. I'd offer you some Timpane, but you're too far away. 

 

 

I like cookies, thanks. Enjoy the relaxing day. Go easy on the phone scrolling if you can and the same goes for me. It hurts the eyes and brain.

 

Cookies in the queue...

 

Types of chips...

Peanut butter Milk chocolate 

Dark chocolate carmel

Dark chocolate butterscotch 

Straight up milk chocolate 

Dark chocolate white chocolate 

Might even throw in some straight up sugar 

 

 

 

Just bought some semi-sweet dark chips yesterday. 

After underreporting nursing home death numbers, cuomo's top aid explains why

https://hotair.com/archives/john-s-2/2021/02/11/cuomos-secretary-withhel...

Have you considered consulting with a consenting adult sex worker? We could start a GoFundMe if you can't afford it right now.

LOL Briank

>>Have you considered consulting with a consenting adult sex worker?

I went to a whore
She said my life's a bore
So quit my whining 'cause it's bringing her down

And in California news.  Governor Newsom looks like recall is inevitable.

No chance he will actually be recalled.

No need to talk reality, Woz.

Don't surround yourself with yourself,  move back two squares, Op.

You are an attention seeker.

 

I hope that song stays in your head for days.

Lead Republican that will be condemned to rot in hell

evil is rewarded for many republicans 

It takes a special form of derp to bump your own troll threads two months after they had died.

cuomo is mini trump. 

disgusting human. he should resign. he's just as bad as the republicans you all hate. 

was funny when corporate apologists here  like lumber were fawning over him this past year. 

oh lumber, you still support those grifters at the lincoln project? yeah..........

funny stuff. 

 

^Hey, asshole, show me where I fawned over Cuomo.

Unless wondering why he wasn't indicted along with  Percoco counts?

 

Again, how does watching the Lincoln project videos equate to support?

Maybe if I put it a way that you can relate to...

 

I don't like you, but I'd still eat a your food, if it were free.

 

It seems that you're not only an angry idiot, you're also a liar.

 

 

 

 

hahaha. 

corporate apologist and you don't even know it. 

sad. 

 

 

^So you can't back up your bullshit, eh?

 I bet you don't even know what I'm referring to regarding Percoco.

 

I understand that my pointing out your ignorance can be frustrating for you.

 

Just for fun, explain how Biden can do this...

 

 pyramidheat on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 – 08:35 am

biden can push thru 2000$ check right now. FACT

Not deadheads

Not deadheads

 

Hateheads

This guy's policy sent 9000 covid positive patients into NY nursing homes.

lumber -- i know you know how he can. 

that's the strange part. 

again -- you're a corporate apologist man. it's whatever -- accept it. 

at least you're not a white supremacist. 

that's the best we got nowadays, right? 

"i'll defend corporate dems and their masters to the end, but at least i ain't a proud boy". 

 

fucking sad. 

 

>lumber -- i know you know how he can. 

that's the strange part. <

 

No, he can't. He is not a dictator. 

So please enlighten me with your knowledge. 

Tell me how he can and I'll echo your criticism.

 

 

While you're at it, show me where I fawned over Cuomo. 

And explain how watching Lincoln Project videos equates to support. 

 

Or just admit that you're ignorant and a liar.

 

 

^^^^this guy's policy sent 9000 covid positive patients into NY nursing homes.
ok so I will address this from an insiders perspective for you. Due to the extreme numbers of positive cases, hospitals locally were too overwhelmed to take care of anything else. There would be no capacity to accept a single car accident patient if alternate plans weren't developed. The plan to send patients to nursing homes was utilized by isolating sections of the facilities to accept them. It allowed the patients to receive the care they needed, didn't risk the other residents and allowed hospitals to care for other patients. The death numbers are disputable due to the fact that many weren't nursing home residents otherwise. Yes there were nursing home outbreaks but they were happening all over. My grandmother passed away in a nursing home from Covid in Jan. It had nothing to do with cuomo decompressing the hospitals 

Coumo should resign. 

 

^absolutely 

 

You guys would be screaming if the hospitals were too full to accept a heart attack patient and he died while there were empty nursing home beds next door. Everyone thinks they are a medical expert today but what they really are is a media consumer 

 

^Cuomo should be in jail, imo.

My opinion predates covid

 

 

Well that's a separate issue altogether 

 

^Yes, and no. Cuomo is still the governor.

 

 

Still waiting for your reply, pyramid.  Remember,  there are three issues to address. 

 

 

Also remember that the Obama pandemic playbook was thrown away by the People in Charge when they decided not to show leadership and instead  let the States come up with their own 50 different plans. This was a bipartisan playbook, written by scientist that study pandemics, and study Data from past events. Trumps hate  for all things Obama would not allow him to use anything left by his predecessor, he was bent on erasing all things Obama had a hand in. NY was the epicenter and being that you are going to learn what to do and what not to do, and that type of evaluation requires studying Data. Of course New York would make the most mistakes by the shear volume and being first to deal with it. I know here in Florida our lock step Governor  participated in Trumps plan in suppressing the gathering Data. Trump runs on hunches and gut feelings, not Data. 

 

if Trump just said wear a mask he would of been re-elected easily.  He lost the older persons vote. The vulnerable people that were most likely to be hurt by the virus, voted the fucker out. When their lives depended on it they turned from their gut feelings and trusted the Data, and seen thru Trumps bullshit, mass numbers of old republicans voted blue. Republicans also had an equal opportunity to vote by mail, but were guided not to from the genius in charge. Part of the playbook that he wanted to use because he knew he would lose the election, and another pillar in the stolen election playbook.

 

Again he would of won hands down, if he just said wear a mask at some point but his ego would not allow him to do it, and that is the guy some people want in charge? 

lumber regretting throwing support behind lincoln project. lol. 

but it is good they exist, they're helping oust trump. hahaha. 

that's just not true. 

dude, you're mr pelosi here. 

you didn't fawn over cuomo and his presidential qualities after he crushed covid? surprising. 

 

>you didn't fawn over cuomo and his presidential qualities after he crushed covid? surprising<

 

So you weren't lying? You just ignorantly claimed I did?

Not surprising,  you incessantly spout your ignorance on most subjects. 

 

Again, explain how watching videos equates to support. 

 

And go on and tell me how Biden can force through the checks. Please demonstrate your ignorance a little bit more. 

 

 

Oh, have you looked up Percoco yet?

 

 

you posted the lincoln project was doing good. 

just proves you're a corporate apologist. they got all you jokers, even if you didn't give them money -- you emotionally were invested and hoped they continued. they're literally grifters and sexual predators lol. 

mr pelosi. 

what you don't support cuomo? word. 

just every other corporate hack dem. 

he'll gladly get your vote when the time is right -- you're a corporate apologist -- it's what you do. 

 

Good morning,  Pyramid, great timing,  just woke up and am making some coffee. 

 

Did Trump lose?

Did they tell the truth about him?

 

Their goal was to defeat Trump.

Maybe you didn't share that goal?

 

If that’s what you call "support," ok, I supported the Lincoln Project's goal of defeating Trump. 

 

>Just proves you're a corporate apologist>

 

How does it do that?  Please elaborate. 

 

 

Now, how can Biden immediately force through the checks? 

Enlighten me.

 

 

Have you looked up Percoco?

 

Ogkb does not like green eggs and ham.

funny you can't even admit lincoln project were a bunch of con artists -- like trump! 

they didn't even help him lose -- more republicans voted for trump in 2020 lol. 

have you looked up how your supported incrementalism has destroyed our country and corporate apologists like yourself continue to hold us back? 

get back to me when you do. 

mr pelosi. 

 

<<<>>>Maybe you didn't share that goal?

lol -- that's all you got? i'm a trumper. come on man. 

here's the thing -- i'm def not a trumper. wild you can't tell. 

but you're def a corporate apologist -- voting for whomever their masters tell you to. i get it, you think it must be done, voting for the lesser evil. 

but your lesser evil, whom you wish to continue "compromising" w/ the great evil gop, is a shitty right wing party that only looks somewhat better than the neofascist gop. 

how sad is that. 

lumber -- you for abolishing the filibuster? 

^^i have no breakfast palette. 

i wake up and want to eat a cheesesteak. 

 

 

Incrementalism is a byproduct of our legislative system.  Needing 60 votes in the Senate forces compromise or gridlock.  

 

Funny that you blame me, when it's your ignorance regarding the legislative process that is the source of your frustration

 

Would like to see the filibuster eliminated, unfortunately Sinema and Manchin have cone out against its elimination.

 

>that's all you got? i'm a trumper. come on man. 

here's the thing -- i'm def not a trumper. wild you can't tell<

 

I just tried to match the ridiculous nonsense you post.

 

 

So you can't answer the question about the checks?

 

Again, please explain how supporting the goal of the Lincoln Project makes me a corporate apologist. 

 

 

Your last post addressed neither. 

 

It's hard to find a good cheesesteak in Vermont. Everyone uses shitty rolls (or they use too fancy ones). Seeing as how you can get Amoroso's through Sysco, there's no excuse. Thirty years ago I had to get Amoroso to air-freight them up to me a couple of times a week.

 

Sorry, just saw your lesser of two evils nonsense. 

 

Yes, in my lifetime the Democratic candidates for President have been preferable to Republican candidates. 

 

Again your frustration is with the system. 

 

 

Now all that's left is the question about the checks. 

 

How can Biden immediately force through $2000 checks?

 

 

 

 

 

hahaha nancy lumber. 

he can't cancel all of student debt, either. right. 

or m4a. 

or ending the trump tax cuts like he said he would on day 1.........what day is it?

he can't do any of that. 

 

amoroso isn't that good imo. very soft, pale, chemy.....we make steam deck rolls for hoagies n shit. i can't do cheesesteaks tho, i don't have a fire suppression system in my hood. 

lumber you're a funny guy. 

True, Amoroso isn't great, but it's traditional and 100x better than the shit most places use. Get yourself a Blackstone griddle for home. It'll be your best purchase in years.

 

>ending the trump tax cuts like he said he would on day 1.<

 

That's not possible without legislation. 

Biden said that? Could you cite the source?

 

M4A requires legislation, Biden is not a legislator.

 

Student debt is tricky, lots of opinions regarding the legality of canceling the debt. Regardless, he should try.

 

 

 

Back to the $2000 checks...

 

 

> pyramidheat on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 – 08:35 am

biden can push thru 2000$ check right now. FACT<

 

How can Biden do this?

 

 

 

 

>lumber you're a funny guy<

 

Thanks, I'm here all week...Try the meatloaf. 

 

 

funny how it's gone from "vote for biden so you get a $2000 survival check" 

to 

"biden isn't a dictator (lol...wow), how can he get you the $2000 he promised."

 

corporate apologist. the definition. 

 

>funny how it's gone from "vote for biden so you get a $2000 survival check<

 

I never said that. 

 

You have to lie about what I've stated in order to criticize me.

 

No, Biden is not a dictator,  nor is he a member of Congress.

 

Democrats have to pass legislation, it's a time consuming process, especially when reconciliation is used.

 

You seem to think that Biden can pass the legislation by fiat... he cannot.  (this is why I keep reminding you that Biden is not a dictator)

  

Legislation is required,  Biden is a member of the executive branch, not the legislative branch.

 

 

biden and the dems said that lol. 

you just keep making excuses for them. like you always have. 

 

^and you continue to demonstrate your ignorance, it's your thing.

 

 

Please explain how Biden can immediately implement M4A, and how can Biden immediately repeal Trump's tax cuts.... I could use a laugh.

 

 

 

laugh? 

the senate went on vacation while people suffer. 

that's wild. and people like you say "it takes a while for reconciliation". fucking joke. 

dems control the entire govt. 

one month in, vacation. 

 

I laugh at your ignorance, not the situation. 

 

Reconciliation does take time... why not educate yourself on the process?

 

I know, it's easier for you to spew your ignorance. 

 

>dems control the entire govt. <

 

And they still don't have the votes.

Guess Biden should just order them to vote for it, right?

He can order them to vote a particular way, can't he?

 

 

Please explain how Biden can immediately implement M4A, and how can Biden immediately repeal Trump's tax cuts....  

You have made statements like this many times, but never present any facts to back up your bullshit. 

 

 

>one month in, vacation<

 

Meanwhile negotiations continue, and Biden is taking to the bully pulpit this week

 

 

it's incredible you didn't support biden in the primary. why is that? 

biden should be putting in the work -- he obviously isn't. 

the president should be convincing his party that the american public needs help, immediately. bernie would be doing that, has done that as a senator. you couldn't even figure that out. that is some bs right there. for somebody who has all the political answers, how come you can't see something so obvious? 

b/c you're a corporate apologist that is ok w/ corporate dem rule, fucking the working class -- chances are you are working class and are just too blind to see the destruction. 

i mean, there's really no other excuse for you regurgitating every piece of pelosi/establishment logic all these years. 

 

So you can't backup your bullshit with any facts.

 

 

Biden has been lobbying and negotiating, but still doesn't have the votes.  This is why he is doing town halls and making appearances this week...using the bully pulpit.

 

>biden should be putting in the work -- he obviously isn't. <

 

How it obvious,  because  Democrats won't fall in line and do as their told?

Again,  you seem to believe that Biden can order folks to vote a particular way.

 

 

 

Still crickets when it comes to explaining how Biden can immediately implement M4A and repeal the Trump tax cuts.

 

Could it be that you are just a clueless blowhard?

 

 

the dems aren't going to repeal trumps tax cuts for billionaires, and people like lumber  are OK w/ it b/c mother fuckers will actually have to put in work to do so. 

people like lumber wanted the impeachment reality tv trial vote, lol, but didn't want a symbolic vote on M4A b/c we don't have the votes.

you're a corporate apologist man. blue maga. a pelosi democrat. 

 

Didn't say any of that, but that's all you have to criticize me.. lies. 

You're an angry, lying, asshole. 

 

 

You, however,  did state that Biden can immediately implement M4A,and immediately repeal the Trump tax cuts, and immediately push through $2000 checks.

 

So, are you going to continue to lie and misrepresent* the things I've stated?

 

Or are you going to explain how Biden can do the things you state?

 

I bet it will be the former.

 

 

 

 

*I stated that Pelosi likely doesn't want the vote on M4A, and presented reasons I believe that was true

 

 

And it's possible that I stated that a symbolic vote on M4A before the election could allow Republicans to label democrats as socialist... I don't recall 

 

 

^lol. 

nice. 

 

^So does that mean you will not attempt to explain your bullshit assertions, and you will continue to lie in order to criticize me?

 

 

It's fun to stay at the ymca 

Lumber,

 

If the Democrats wanted to they could put M4a into the stimulus package as a "relief" for millions of Americans who have no insurance who now risk getting a deadly virus anytime they leave their homes. I don't they want to pass m4a and yes it starts at the house with pelosi. Aside from that, they could have passed the stimulus on Bidens first day as president with or without republicans using reconciliation for a budget which can only be once a year. 
 

It is possible if that's something they wanted to do but they don't want to. Not sure when these guys will do their jobs and pass the stimulus but they will have to use reconciliation, anyways. Anyways, millions are jobless and running out of benefits, medical coverage and are behind on bills while these guys are playing games.

lumber knows the answer. 

he must protect his establishment politics tho. 

bizarre, right? 

Yes, it seems the die hard neo libs have reached a crossroads where they believe they are defending moral values but they are really just defending individual politicians and their party because those moral values don't really exist in politics. Weird to watch unfold, for sure.

 

> Aside from that, they could have passed the stimulus on Bidens first day as president with or without republicans using reconciliation for a budget which can only be once a year. <

 

Not without Manchin. Manchin is more concerned with keeping his seat in a deep red state.  He saw Obama go, Trump come and go, and wants to be around after Biden is gone. 

 

Reconciliation is a budgetary tool, you believe they could pass M4A in that process? 

 

 

They already started the process. The bill is ready to be advanced to the Ways and Means committee for a vote.

 

 

Yes, Manchin is part of the "they" as in Democrats. All I'm saying is if the Democrats wanted to then together they could do it. It probably wouldn't be pretty but it would be possible. It's not really part of their agenda though. They have written in all types of crazy bullshit into the first couple stimulus/relief packages. Why not m4a?

 

There are 271 democrats in Congress,  a five vote margin in the House,  tied in the Senate... lots of people to appease. Can't just order them to vote for it.  

Going to tough passing anything without a larger majority. 

 

>Why not M4A?<

 

Changing the structure of a government program through budget reconciliation?

 

Sinema and Manchin have been fighting the $15 minimum wage,  it's difficult to believe they would support m4a.

The bill might never get passed.

 

You were asking the question of how and I was just answering. There is a way but I agree it won't happen. It is quite a shame though as many people have lost healthcare because of the pandemic and considering the situation it should be a more important issue than a lot of the things beings handled in Congress, IMO. 

 

While I do appreciate your answering the question, the original question was how can Biden immediately implement, or force through,  M4A and repeal Trump's tax cuts.(This is Pyramid's premise)

Your answer is a path for congress, Biden is not a member of Congress.  

Additionally, reconciliation does not provide instantaneous results.  It is a process that takes weeks. Nine committees have worked on the current covid relief bill, and it's now on it's way to the Ways and Means committee. 

 

Trying to pass m4a as part of covid relief, while technically possible,  would be much more time consuming, further delaying the bill's passage, and likely would need to be removed, or the bill would fail. Unfortunately, the votes aren't there.  

 

Sinema and Manchin are fighting $15 an hour. How long would it take to hammer out how to cover the cost of M4A? 

 

 

>(M4A) should be a more important issue than a lot of the things beings handled in Congress, IMO.<

 

I agree.

 

 

you have extremely powerful dems, like pelosi, endorsing anti m4a candidates. all throughout the trump term. even anti choice candidates. 

pelosi is no friend of the working class. neither is schumer. 

at least mcconnell gets his shitty racist gop what they want. 

 

 

>pelosi is no friend of the working class. neither is schumer<

 

Like I said, I've been for replacing Pelosi since about 2010

 

Who's going to challenge Schumer?

Have a better chance of him losing a primary election than losing a leadership vote.

 

 

 >at least mcconnell gets his shitty racist gop what they want<

 

He does. We'll see which is more important, the above, or to be servile to Trump. Graham is betting servility.

 

 

 

Chuck Schumer is a friend of Stephen Schwarzman and the carried interest loophole that allows hedge funds to not pay taxes, that's for sure, ogkb, but your semi-coherent, bludgeoning tactics gross people out and your message gets lost for the most part in the whirlwind.

lol mayor pete. 

isn't it time for you to stare at the wall or something? 

ogkb, you seem to spend a lot of time fantasizing about how zoners spend their time. Shouldn't you be making pizzas or something?

 

^Here you go, Pyramid, fire away. 

 

Biden on cancelling $50,000 in student debt: 'I will not make that happen."

 

 

Like I wrote, there are a lot opinions about the legality of canceling the debt, but he should try.

 

 

His reasoning for not canceling the full $50k is that he doesn't' think people who went to Ivy League schools should benefit. First off, only 33% of the population has gone to college at all. We have to assume that many Gen X and Boomers have already paid off their college loans. Second, and let's be honest, what percent of the population wih college debt actually went to one of those schools? Less than 1%? Who fucking cares? Don't hold up helping out millions of people because of a couple of hundred thousand.

Some economists say that canceling $50k per person will barely affect the GDP. I have no idea what the hell that means. In reality, it means that people will have hundreds more a month to spend, and their credit ratings will go up. They can buy homes, which will lead to new home building. The butterfly effect of that is massive.

biden is trash. 

this also a race issue. do the brunch liberals not care any longer? BLM? 

sad. 

mike, what have you googled today? 

More of the same from Biden and Co. Just false hopes and promises. Yes, this is absolutely a race issue. Dealing with those issues takes more th an just writing speeches and sounding good on a public stage. 

<<More of the same from Biden and Co. Just false hopes and promises. 

Just a friendly reminder to anyone reading that timpane voter for Biden

Yea. I voted for Obama once too. I would ask who you voted for JR but I respect people's voting privacy.