Dead & Co. MSG 11/14/17

Really?  I did not know.

I'll listen tomorrow.  Still working on Sunday.

Potential streams (2 of 3 had the last show)

H2O Radio (mixlr) 

http://mixlr.com/h2oradio--2/

 

Terrapin Radio

http://mixlr.com/terrapinradio/

 

Jimmy wasn't on last show

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/33uPFf4cfCf%C2%A0%C2%A0

 

H2O radio says they are carrying it tonight (link above)

Dead & Co. MSG 11/14/17

Set I

Tempo in a bucket 

(stream;  http://mixlr.com/h2oradio--2/ )

Well, at least I enjoyed the slide...

the bluesy tempo

and you know it was the slowest part of the day 

 

GQ Dead and Company Fashion. Fashion?!

 

https://www.gq.com/story/dead-and-company-fall-tour-msg-deadhead-style-m...

The Grateful Dead subculture has one of the most unique styles in music fandom. And on Sunday, Deadheads from all corners of the country proved it at Madison Square Garden, where Dead & Company kicked off their fall tour. Dead & Co., led by John Mayer and Grateful Dead guitarist Bob Weir, attracts OG Deadheads who have attended countless shows since the 1970s—one guy, who wore a custom Grateful Dead leather vest under his Dead & Co. varsity jacket, said he had attended upwards of 150 Jerry Garcia sets. For them, Sunday night was a reunion of sorts, and they pulled out gear from their collections of bootleg T-shirts and custom jackets. But Dead & Co. also turns out a new generation of fans who have been initiated into the culture (we did just experience the Summer of Grateful Dead, after all). These kids have embraced a different side of the Deadhead DIY world, and rocked up in their rare T-shirts from the likes of WOBF and From The Lot. Naturally, we had to send Mordechai Rubinstein—AKA Mister Mort, expert chronicler of subcultural style–to hang out and snap the most epic tie-dye T-shirts and stealie patches that he could find throughout the day and night.

^^^^^that light bulb smoked JFK weed

Great song titles, keep it up. Seems all new.

"And JM has great tone tonight"

WAY to thin for my tastes.

That Birdsong was really sweet! 

Chimenti's on fire

Fun first set!

 

dont try and understand...

One of the things I like about Phils playing, is how many different ways he manages to play the lines between chord changes (in any given song at that), rare to ever repeat.  I really appreciate the way Billy's been doing that on the drums...  sure a couple of misses (just like Phil), but there's been several occasions where he's just killing it, even if a slow tempo...   can't remember the song last show, but he did at least 5 different patterns in just a very short amount of time, very dynamic and quite brilliant!  I'm surprised Mickey didn't throw a boot at him in celebration 

Mick's deaf as a post.

 

Did they break out Picasso moon yet?

Had to shut it off for a while.

Just not the sound I'm searching at the moment.

Yayyyy DeadCo!

Yes KK, Help>Slip>Frank

To be polite,  it sounded like Donkey Ass.

I shall try later,  and hope to hear a more refined Donkey Ass.

Nice thoughts to the swirling masses having a Fun at MSG tonight.

China Doll>Stream Crash>China Doll

Oteil singing China Doll like this summer?

Bobby singing is good tonight now if only his karaoke lyric's thing was working.

Bobby screams on a loop

New tool used to break terrorism suspects

stream crash > scream crash?

Will they play til 11? Seems like they're getting the show over with early

 

Love Supreme, wow

Dead & Co. MSG 11/14/17

Set I

Unable to Dance I'll Crawl (Bucket)

Ain't Gonna Be Treated This Old Way (Cold Rain)

South Colorado West Texas Bound (Uncle)

the bottle was dusty but the liquor was clean (Brown Eyed)

Drink all day and rock all night (Tennessee)

Laugh in the sunshine, sing, cry in the dark, fly through the night. (Bird Song)

Give it up, don't try and understand (Women Smarter)

Set II

I was blind all the time I was learning to see (Help)>

Trip! (Slip)>

Some come to laugh their past away (Franklins) 

(Oteil) China Doll>Stream Crash>China Doll 

My time coming, anyday, don't worry about me, no (Estimated)

Drumz 

Tribal space

A love supreme (hugs everyone)

In the end there's still that song (Stella Blue, BW)

I will say, listening on the stream, this is the strongest and tightest drumming I've heard from this band. Almost like they're making an effort to actually hit the snare drums and the cymbals.

ended before 11 on a saturday....whats mayers bedtime on school nights???

I am just catching end of second set, but I gotta say that this is WAY better than that night last week in california

Mayer is off the chain.... boy is killin it on the Saint Stephen!

 

 

US Blues

 

Dead & Company

Madison Square Garden, New York, NY, USA 

Nov 14, 2017

 

Set 1:

Hell in a Bucket

Cold Rain and Snow

Me and My Uncle

Brown-Eyed Women

Tennessee Jed

Bird Song

Man Smart, Woman Smarter

 

Set 2:

Help on the Way

Slipknot!

Franklin's Tower

China Doll

Estimated Prophet

Drums

Space (with Love Supreme) 

Stella Blue

St. Stephen

Not Fade Away

 

Encore

U.S. Blues

 

Nice set. 

Jeezus some of you are cranky old fucks (or trolling little boys).  I hope I don't get so bitter and mentally incontinent in extreme old age.  Many arguments I hear relating to Dead and Company resemble the remarks I would hear from non-Deadheads in the time of Grateful Dead.  Tempo...vocals...diddling... Try some Kendrick Lamar or something...country music might work for y'all...Glen Miller...I don't know.  I'm looking forward to seeing a couple shows from these guys.  All due respect to Herring, Mayer is the most talented and adventurous guitarist I've heard with Dead members since Jerry passed.  Music is in the ear of the beholder.  There's no "right" or "wrong."  Some people listen to Rod Stewart, Cher, early Beatles, The Hollies, ELO for Chrissake.  Love it or shove it but whichever, it will always only be rock and roll.   

Some people listen to the same songs all day everyday.

its like eating oatmeal for every meal

<<<>>>>All due respect to Herring, Mayer is the most talented and adventurous guitarist I've heard with Dead members since Jerry passed.

wow. most adventurous? this entire band takes zero chances. that's what i don't get-i understand everyone like different shit; but you hear mayer taking chances to explore, you hear mayer being adventurous to take the music to unknown places? i disagree. i hear a band that has no chemistry, and all the parts are just there, on stage, playing at the same time. its quite noisy.

"All due respect to Herring, Mayer is the most talented and adventurous guitarist I've heard with Dead members since Jerry passed."

You need to get out more.  There is absolutely nothing "adventurous" about his playing.  He usually plays over the rest of the band and to my ears isn't listening to what the others are doing.  There's no meshing going on.  I tried to take in some of the stream last night but had to turn it off during Bird Song.  He's a talented guitarist in some ways but completely unsuited for this music.

John Scofield is adventurous. 

Very 'safe' song selection as well.yawn

Big Dead & Company fan, I've liked every show I've seen. Tempos are a little slow and the show with Metallica last week was a big disappointment...

 But besides that, I think they're great! 

Mickey Hart is the weakest link, no surprise there 

 

I just can't get behind this band.  Sterile, lifeless performances of the music I love.  Feel the same way about Phil and the family band too.  

^^  Yeah, I hear ya. It makes me miss Garcia even more, thinking back about his guitar playing and voice in the songs. Impossible to beat Jerry, on the good versions at least 

>>>You need to get out more...<<<

I get out plenty, pops.  And, I enjoy Scofield. He's no Al Dimiola but fair to moderate. We'll disagree.  Mayer has brought me out of Dead retirement.  He's the first guitarist whose playing doesn't make me miss Jerry during Dead people shows.  (Of course, I miss Garcia, I mean musically speaking in the course of a performance.)  Others seemed to be soloists under the direction of whichever Dead member(s) was present.  To each his/her own.   (Scofield is, like Mayer, a Connecticut-raised kid who went on to attend Berkeley College of Music.)

Article & 7 videos from 11/14/17. Thanks Live For Live Music!

Dead & Company Dust Off The Cobwebs For MSG Closer [Videos] - Posted by Andrew Carter on Wednesday November 15th, 2017

https://liveforlivemusic.com/features/dead-company-msg-2-2017/

Videos there from 11/14/17: Hell In A Bucket  / Cold Rain And Snow /  Man Smart, Woman Smarter  /  Help On The Way / China Doll / 

St. Stephen / U.S. Blues

 

nice! 

52 years and still killing it!!!

Maybe scofield gained momentum the longer he was on tour with Phil, but imo Boca was the best show of that tour and Scofield never stepped up that night. Larry carried the show all night and especially in that smoking second set. I will say Scofield did step up a bit more in Orlando, but still nothing ground breaking. Jimmy Herring is miles beyond Scofield in this style of music.

https://youtu.be/QtZnht6WTBY

"Scofield is, like Mayer, a Connecticut-raised kid who went on to attend Berkeley College of Music.)"

Lol, is that anything like the Berklee College of music.

For my ears Mayer is beyond awful. I truly did not think it could be worse than JK and Furthur, but boom there the doofus Mayer is, up on stage. Interminable playing, no swagger, no interesting new covers or originals, just awful to listen too. It truly is the opposite of the Garcia era. Someone really should have sat down Bob Bill and Mick and explained to them that money is not worth what they are doing. 

 

In my heart of heart i believe this to be Bobs revenge for 30 years of being shit on by Deadheads. The joke really is on us.

 

 

He's no Al Dimiola<<

 

HAHAHAHA.

>>Someone really should have sat down Bob Bill and Mick and explained to them that money is not worth what they are doing. 

Money is pretty much 90% of the reason they are doing it. 

John Mclaughlin and Jimmy Herring  $39

King Crimson $49

 

 

Dead and Company $150

 

^^^^^

There’s some pricing perspective that exposes the value/cost equation.

Great pricing comparison - that explains the popularity of American Idol.

Seen the first 2 bands in the past 10 days, worth every penny. $150 to see Mickey McMallet, I don't think so.

Young people are having a blast.  

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CBUxNeXgC70

Listening through some of this show now.  Just prior to this I listened to 3/27/88.  Maybe it would be better if I had just listed to this show on its own, but I don’t know.  Painfully slow tempos to the point where familiar songs seem disjointed and forced.  Saw the last year at the SPAC, thought the same.  I for one am done, too much other music out there.

For my ears Mayer is beyond awful. I truly did not think it could be worse than JK and Furthur, but boom there the doofus Mayer is, up on stage. Interminable playing, no swagger, no interesting new covers or originals, just awful to listen too. It truly is the opposite of the Garcia era. Someone really should have sat down Bob Bill and Mick and explained to them that money is not worth what they are doing.

In my heart of heart i believe this to be Bobs revenge for 30 years of being shit on by Deadheads. The joke really is on us.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

 

Pretty spot on assessment of the burning tire fire that is DeadCo. Although I do believe Weir actually considers himself a bit of a shaman, traversing the land to extend the love, legacy and gospel of the Grateful Dead. The end result is terrible but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that his heart is in the right place.

Where did Mayer buy that sweater, Dress Barn or Anthropologie?

I've tried to stay away from this Dumpstah Fiya but just thought of something marginally Witty (even a blind Nut occasionally finds a Squirrel).  Background:  Since this tour began, I've been deluged w/emails, calls, texts, from friends Imploring me to go see DeadCo, saying how great it is and what a fun time it is.  This reminds me of last year when I was similar-ly Deluged about Bernie Sanders, how I should vote for him, how great his policies are, etc, etc.  So I thought of a Couplet that actually rhymes, here goes:

"In 2016 they tried to Convince me Bernie's the Man;

In 2017 they tried to Convince me DeadCo's the Band"

 

nut is still blind....;)

Yeah I know but I got to laugh, that's all that matters to me ;)

 

so for those who think Dead & co. has it going on-would you rather hear Mayer or Sless play the music? to my ears Barry explores the songs at a much higher level byt Mayer is not awful as some say.