Done with corporate entertainment

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Especially in Las Vegas, but anywhere else too.

It's all gotten beyond absurd.

Instead, drop a few dollars in the hats of talented buskers.

See a local show, band, and spoken word performance!

Let's stop supporting corporate mongers. They are parasites on bread and circuses.

Make and participate in our own shows!

Stay home and read books.

 

I've finally started going back to the movies. Some great stuff out there right now. 

yep, and support your public library!  

Had a crazy dream about the sphere....don't think I need that much stimuli....

 

I'd like to know what Live Nation does with all the cash they get selling tickets 8-9 months before a show. I'm getting notices about tix going on sale for shows next summer. Are they investing this pile of cash? What BS. And if someone's plans change, is it easy to get a refund? 

Live nation is owned by a bunch of hedge funds and investment banks. 

You know how a hedge fund works, right?

what do you think they do with the cash they extract from their holdings (bands, venues, management firms, promoters, customer base)?

they have an actual mathematical, legal, fiduciary responsibility to redistribute it amongst their shareholders.

 

I'm taking a big step back from it all next year. Just wish my local up and coming band venue wasn't such a plague venue. 

Next step - hearing aids and hopefully actually being able to have conversations again instead of pretending I can hear what people are talking about. 

^^^Especially in Las Vegas, but anywhere else too.^^^

Basically my least favorite place in the United States, and now they are getting my baseball team too bc the owner is a greedy ass MFer.

Good Luck I hope they fail miserably.

My wife likes Kenny Chesney, looked for presale tickets yesterday and 2 tickets in the cheaper lower bowl of the Stadium were over $400 

 

 

pass

Last show was Fabulous Superlatives a couple of months before the covid lockdown.  Smallish Sanger Theater in Pensacola, FL.  Great stuff but I am done.

In these times I have no plans to spend much time among The Others.

It has been many many yrs since I bought a ticket from scumsucking ticketbastard. I did go to a Wolf Bros show at the Greek, but I was gifted a ticket by close friends. Might have been as many as 10 yrs. Maybe longer.

I much prefer smaller venues and crowds anyway.

Dave Alvin was good tonight if maybe a little too loud at times. Love that guy.

What form of entertainment isn't attached to a corporation in some way anymore? Most live music, theater, film, TV, and webcast service, and even the books you take out from your local library, or the truly indie film you watch on YouTube or a similar web service, are connected in some way to a corporate entity.

I think the best we can do is decide for ourselves the degree of corporate exposure we're willing to subject ourselves to.

I prefer $20 concerts.  Usually no visible sponsor other than the band itself. 

i had really wanted to see tyler childers and was all prepared to pull the trigger. Got online and queued up....and passed. I mean w/ fees you're at a buck 20 for bad/non premium seats...x2...+ dinner, parking, travel...meh. All done w/ the T-bastard.

 

For me corporate = Live Nation. I can't avoid all corporate but I can see a lot of music without supporting them. 

What are fees on a Live Nation ticket? Like 10%?

Closer to 20%, I'm thinking.

last nite:

$15 Alex Jordon & Friends Club Fox Redwood City with John Kadlecik

great nite of music in an intimate club with 75 peeps dancin'

recreated Copps 3-22-90

https://archive.org/details/gd90-03-22.sbd.bertha-ashley.21433.sbeok.shn...

Robert Cray Band at the (non profit) Rogue Theater last Sunday. $30, front row balcony. Got to chat with Robert and his bassist, Richard Cousins, for a bit after the show and got my record signed too. No fee extortion, no algorithms to navigate, no hassle, just real good music with a real thankful crowd. Four dollar drinks. Solid opening act (Stephanie Ann Johnson). Free water. Eight minutes from the house. That kind of thing.

I'll go to a shed if I get a cheap/free ticket and really want to see the act, but I'm otherwise checked out and definitely not looking. It's easily as frustrating and abusive as airline travel anymore.

Live Nation

Phil & Friends at the Fillmore (12/17/2023)
$97.00 ticket price
$118.00 total cost
Fees = 22%

JRAD at the LA Greek (10/14/2023)
$59.50 ticket price
$78.00 total cost
Fees = 31%

AXS

Parliament Funkadelic at The Novo (11/24/2023)
$59.50 ticket price
$75.28 total cost
Fees = 27%

I'm personally a fan of the "convenience fee" for printing my own ticket.

rodney crowell was $45 here recently. $5 fee. physical ticket. my kinda spendy local show.

You pick your battles. I tithe LN my 10% or so about once a year, and usually at the same venue. Gotta feed the monkey. 

"Done with corporate entertainment"

Well obviously there are exceptions to EVERY generalized statement.

My original post was triggered by and directed at Major League Baseball. I love the American game of baseball which has been important to me for most of my life. But all the stupid rule changes have ruined it for me. Allowing the Oakland A's to move to Las Vegas (a corporate hell hole I am also completely over) was the last straw.

Now, I paid the outrageous prices for Phil tickets, because he is PHIL. Who knows how many more concerts he will play? Hopefully thousands, but more than likely most of them are already past. So while Phil remains active and alive, and I am also alive, I will fork over the demanded 20% + extra fees to the corporate ticket masters (parasitic bastards).

 

I just got tickets to see Percy Jones at the WOW Hall in Eugene next Feb.  Tickets were $25 plus a $5 service fee  

^^^My original post was triggered by and directed at Major League Baseball. I love the American game of baseball which has been important to me for most of my life. But all the stupid rule changes have ruined it for me. Allowing the Oakland A's to move to Las Vegas (a corporate hell hole I am also completely over) was the last straw.^^^

I'm with you 100% Roarshock.  Besides the A's move the game that never had a clock before is suddenly adding them everywhere.  I never minded the length of the game w/ natural order previous to this (no pitch clock, no batter clock, no pitch counts, etc) and i think they are shaving off 15 minutes to 30 minutes per game now bc of this.  F that I like tradition and they are ruining it big time.

I think the only people that are happy with this impeding move are the 30 owners of MLB and the Governor of Nevada.  <vomit>

 

Well it's kinda fitting that the national past-time is completely corporate. Hey, take a look around...

"The business of America is business."

How many recall just after 911 when George Bush was asked what American citizens could do in response, the president said, "Go shopping."

Then these signs went up all over the place that showed a shopping bag with a United States flag superimposed on it and the caption read, "America ~ Open for Business."

 

I am much more than that. I believe most of my fellow citizens are too. Never mind that the local television news starting Friday will be wringing their hands about how much money $ corporate merchants will bring in during the holiday season. Not-so-subtlety shaming "consumers' who are not doing their part.

The motherfucking capitalist corporations need us CITIZENS (not CONSUMERS) a hell of a lot more than we need them. Really.

 

"I am not a consmer. I am a human being." ~ Roarshock

 

The CEO of Live Nation — the parent company of TicketMaster — received $139 million in compensation last year. Meanwhile, the median Live Nation employee was paid $25,673.That’s a pay ratio of 5,414-to-1.

" I am not a consumer, I am a human being."

that's good  - you need to monatize that

Billy was 36 euros with all fees in Europe, oh and we pay 40 Euros a month for telephone,fiber optic internet,Tv tons of channels You folks are being taken for a ride