Edibles Advice

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Heading out to Colorado for our annual ski trip next week and can't think of a higher purpose for the Zone.  I have zero experience with edibles other than pot brownies (which did nothing) 30+ years ago.  Normally we purchase something to smoke, but we are staying an a very smoke-free location, plus one of our group is very uncomfortable around such activities (his son was killed in a drug deal gone bad).

So I was looking at the vast assortment of edibles but have no idea what I'm getting into.  We are practically walking-distance from two dispensaries. I would love to just be able to nibble or drink something and have a nice clean buzz for skiing without going out of my mind.  The websites recommend starting with a 10mg dose, so I was thinking of trying gummies or a measured drink.  Any experienced ediblers out there?  How long do the doses usually last?  I realize there are a lot of variables to consider....thanks in advance.

Start with something high in CBD and low in THC. and gradually up the THC. Stick wtih Sativas until apres ski, and then try a nice Indica. I suggest starting with 5 mg THC. Give it a couple of hours to kick in - or maybe an hour on an empty stomach. Depending on the dose, and how you metabolize the product, it could last anywhere from 2-8 hours.  Maybe try it out before skiing so you don't do something stupid like forget to get off the chair lift or something. 

10 mg is probably a good starting point for most folks. I recommend finding a brand that has products by variety; hybrid, indica, sativa, CBD, etc. A lot of products on the market don't specify this, which makes estimating the effects more difficult. Give yourself at least 90 minutes to 2 hours before you up the dose. The duration of edibles will be much longer than smoking, or other forms of ingestion.

Sounds like you're well informed to me. I like Terra bites chocolate espresso beans, or their white chocolate covered blueberries - they're about 5 mg each. I've just taken them in microdoses for pain management, though. I don't really enjoy the edible high, but you're looking at around 4 hours once you feel it unless you eat a lot. Most people seem to like 30mg to 50mg range for a high, but I agree with Mike, start with 10mg as you can always go higher..bring a pillow in case it knocks you out. ;p

i think 2.5 mg is a good starting point...

Try to take in to account how much you've eaten and how tired you are at the time.  I've had varying effects with edibles on an empty vs full stomach.  Once I ate 20mg and got a moderate buzz.  Another time I took 10mg and could barely move.  I agree on the Sativa vs Indica timeline. 

I was pretty happy with Cheeba Chews when I was in CO. 

ive seen 5mg drop many adults, who cant finish dinner and go to bed early...

 

 

 

 

mike..... go to your room.

ps-Sprig soda is yummy and at 45 mg and never made me feel uncomfortably high, but I could feel it for sure.

:) :) :) double

making use of the extra space since I have 2 minutes:

I've been hearing lots of reports of cannapoisioning from the people at the event medicine outfit I volunteered with. People having bad reactions to edibles with severe vomiting requiring hospital stays etc. Be safe out there!

Cheeba chews, which are similar to tootsie rolls, are kind of pricy. They're $12 for 70 mg in the LA area. I've been using a gummy product called Kushy Punch; they're $12 for 100 mg. Both brands offer products by variety.

>Ive seen 5mg drop many adults, 

 

yeah, I went with 3 friends to a ballgame, we shared one cookie. they couldn't move out of their seats for 4 hours, and then 2 of them needed to be escorted home and tucked into bed. they hadn't SMOKED since High School. I think the dose was less than 5 mg each. I enjoyed my buzz, but could have done without seeing 2 of the gals freaking out. 

> ive seen 5mg drop many adults

You know the rules, Jonny. Pics, or it didn't can haz.

Thanks all.  Wow quite a response.  I've been doing some research online and the 5mg starting point does seem to be the consensus.  Whether skiing the first time is a good idea or not is another question.....maybe I'll try it apres ski the first day to judge effects before going over the edge (hopefully a pun).

These sites had some good info:

http://www.firsttime5.com/

https://www.leafly.com/news/cannabis-101/5-tips-to-safely-dose-and-enjoy...

 

I'd definitely consider the middle of your day or evening just in case it knocks you out,

plan on being knocked out, and missing dinner.... you will arrive for breakfast, and may not wish to ever do it again...

mike if i have to tell you one more time........................

100 MG or more or stay in the kiddee pool. 

JR... go to your room......... no one wants your super duper hippy shit...cheeky

your daily use will effect the amount of mgs. you need. Daily smoker 10 won't do it. one mans opinion.

im a daily smoker, and 10 will drop me hard...

1 hit a day of BC bud out of a dug out is not daily smoking jonny. 

10 for me is mild but consistently buzzy and the little wave peaks are nice surprizes.

 

 

If you're out there for the week, start with 5mg (gummy bears are good) apres ski.

All tips given on waiting before re-upping are spot on. In fact, when bought, woman at dispensary went out of her way to drill into my head that it takes time so chill. Again, you're out there for a while so use time appropriately. 

Also as noted above, type is important and you will have your choice at the dispensary. "Sativa and indica strains each have their own unique high. While sativa strains are more stimulating, indicas tend to be more psychoactive. A feeling of well-being and ease is often associated with sativas, making them ideal for social situations. The high from sativa strains is energizing, cerebral and well suited for daytime use. They are also said to promote deep conversation and enhance creativity. Indica strains, on the other hand, have an opposite effect. They provide a “couch-lock” body high that is well suited for nights when you just want to wind down and be in your own head. Indicas are often used to relieve stress and aid with sleep." Obviously, if you plan to chew and ski, Indica would not be a wise choice!

A full 10mg sativa based gummy and vodka cranberries powered me through the Fare Thee Well shows, etc.

Going to Utah on 3/18 right after P&F at the Cap to ski. Wishing the Mormons will legalize.

Everyone's metabolism is different, as mentioned above, empty vs full stomach makes a difference. It might be a bad idea to mix with alcohol until you know how you'll handle the edibles.

Eat one before bed to wake & bake. 

If the THC high gets to be to much take some CBD it will help you level back into a nice comfortable high.

 

When I make a batch of cookies I put in budder that's equal to one stick of butter. Makes about 2 doz cookies. I have no idea what the percentage is but they definitely get everyone very high. I give novices a half a cookie and it's usually more than enough. I've had a couple of people freak right out with only a half though. I eat one and I'm very high for at least 6 hrs. 

So if you haven't done this before, heed the advice above and start low or you may have a shitshow on your hands...

i agree, 100 is real nice.

.......go to your room.....

you guys eat it?

don't start at 120mg...

a friend ate around 120mg shortly before going to his in-laws last Thanksgiving so he could tolerate their bullshit and ended up passing out at the table...lol

holiday memories...

10 Mg right before first chair and you will feel a little lifted in an hour or so, but very functional (more like a sense of well being) with "little wave peaks" occasionally as firebird said. While at times you will also forget you even ate it because you won't feel anything. It may keep you from wanting to smoke, which is convenient. Then three beers at lunch and a bowl and you will feel great in the afternoon. And stick to saliva or hybrids so you have less chance of getting sleepy. Have like 20 to 30 mg after dinner, hit the hot tub with a cocktail then sleep like a baby. 

OG prolly starts at about 250 mg. His cookies look P O T E N T. Just sayin.

Pick up a disposable vape pen for discreet tokes in the trees or anywhere else. 

i def like the salivas.....

this one time i did 2 ounces of the salivas, and i was all like................... whoa. but thens i has canned, so es teh hazzes.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i know......... im going to my room.

Slacker's suggestion seems like the path of least resistance, tbh. 

double double :) :) :)

For skiing I suggest taking 25mg of a thc edible, half tab of x and a quarter tab of lsd a half hour before getting to the slopes.  By the time you get to top for your first run the world will be a very happy place.

If your worried about getting too high than I'd suggest that getting high probably isn't your thing.  If you're not a seasoned smoker don't go eating edibles that you haven't made yourself.

 

Holy cow, let's start with: How much do you current smoke daily? weekly?

The dosage will vary on your baseline, and metabolism.

As someone who smoke a few times a week, I have found 10mg to be weak, 20-25mg gets me high, and 25+ over a day or evening can get interesting.

Where are you skiing?

>>>>>If you're not a seasoned smoker don't go eating edibles that you haven't made yourself.

 

You'd probably be safer buying ones with labeled doses than making your own edibles if you're not a "seasoned smoker".

I like slacker's advice, too.

>>>>>You'd probably be safer buying ones with labeled doses than making your own edibles if you're not a "seasoned smoker".

 

This.

A vape pen and oil is the answer to most discrete toking issues.

 

>You'd probably be safer buying ones with labeled doses than making your own edibles if you're not a "seasoned smoker".

I've had a lot of experience with edibles; from mom and pop homemades to dispensary products and the only one that I truly trust the potency on is one that i've made myself.  I don't recommend any inexperienced cannabis user to walk into a dispensary and pop the 'recommended dose' into their mouths.

 

>>>>>I've had a lot of experience with edibles; from mom and pop homemades to dispensary products and the only one that I truly trust the potency on is one that i've made myself.  I don't recommend any inexperienced cannabis user to walk into a dispensary and pop the 'recommended dose' into their mouths.

 

You'd recommend a inexperienced user make their own edibles?  Seems backwards to me.

Oh you don't smoke much and want to try some?  Get a couple ounces and 4 sticks of butter.   

I think he's looking for a few snacks, not a tray or two of brownies and left over butter.

the sherrif says kids will die.

so does Chelsea Clinton, marjuanas are killing people every day!

>You'd recommend a inexperienced user make their own edibles?  Seems backwards to me.

Right? Every dispensary I know of in this state requires lab analysis of their edibles including pesticide as well as THC & CBD content, but some hippie on a message board suggests winging it at home with unknown thc and pesticide levels is safer because he's had a lot of personal experience with home made edibles?! Impressive dbmb genius at work. Lol!

That, and I'd bet the guest with issues with drug use would have a bigger problem with a drug lab in the condo kitchen versus a doobie on the deck.

True that, nedb. I have more questions than answers now. Why is drug issues guy even skiing in Colorado if pot is such a big deal to him? lol pretty sure he's going to smell weed everywhere he goes and get triggered anyhow.

"...You'd recommend a inexperienced user make their own edibles?  Seems backwards to me.

Oh you don't smoke much and want to try some?  Get a couple ounces and 4 sticks of butter..."  

It's probably not a terrible idea for the pot-munching skier to try it at home first before going out on the slopes.  Then they can figure out for themselves, "OK, this much makes me feel like a bit silly, so maybe half of that next time..."

Otherwise they could find themselves all whacked-out in Fort Lee, NJ, explaining to the cops why they were humping a lawn-ornament.

I would drop at least 400 to 500 mics of clean L

I would then consume at least a 1/2 z of boomers

I would eat 150 to 200 mg of edibles.

Wash it down with 4 or 5 coctails, doubles with no ice.

I would bring a vape pen for discreet hits here and there.

Hit the slopes hard like a pro. Post pics. You will thank me later............

Sounds like too much work.

Just stay home.

 

smiley

Try the chocolate covered coffee beans. They are my favorite

I actually believe Flash B. but he is a big fellow. Just half of those cocktails alone would be plenty to mess up my ski style, then again we don't have snow here in Jerseyland like they do in Tampa.

Last time on the slope I did have a couple Beers, which helped calm my chair-lift fear.  I remembered to urinate before leaving the lodge, and thanks to Boreal Ridge for providing the modern facilities.  They even had another room where you could buy sunglasses and Jackets smiley  I didn't pee there,  however.

But no Woodstock-era trippy stuff.  That's for experienced skiers, not weekend amateurs.

Purple font don't work, Stu.

NedB --

The machine calls that one 'Indigo' but it sure looks purple, eh?

>some hippie

How dare you!  I take great offense to that term. 

 

I wish I had some sort of machine that I could pose questions to. Maybe I could ask it for recipes for proper amounts of molasses and such so I don't need to wing it. 

I also have a 'sensitivity' to molasses but I LOVE the taste of it.  Ahh.. fuck it. I'll just go to the store and buy whatever they have to sell. 

 

*Don't speak about things that you have no experience with. 

 

 

>That, and I'd bet the guest with issues with drug use would have a bigger problem with a drug lab in the condo kitchen versus a doobie on the deck.

Cooking brownies in a kitchen is a considered a 'drug lab'? 

 

 

*Don't speak about things that you have no experience with. <<<

I worked at a dispensary, and know all about the lab testing of cannabis products as I worked with the lab directly. I a;lso have more experience with edibles than I ever wanted. In addition to lab testing for potency pesticides and mold, they use employees as test subjects for new products. Well, they called it 'homework', but still. There's a fuckton of edible products out there. Also know my way around a kitchen and there's no way to guage how strong your home made finished product is without a lab test or trial by fire (not recommended unless you have time and a place to freak freely). 

 

fwiw 125 mg made me hurl like a freshman on spring break.

Not that I'm the only one who ever thought of this, but the dispensaries really ought to remind people to keep their 'Gummies' and 'Cheeba Chews' under lock and key.

Kids are like Rats in that they will find any hidden candy in a residence.  Now if they put the tinctures / extracts in containers resembling foul-tasting cough syrup, that would be a kid-repellent.

Cool thread

I'm convinced my body doesn't metabolize edibles.

I always seem to have to eat a lot of acid to make my Brownie kick in.

Hush Dise.  Nobody knows more or has more experience with edibles than Jonas.

 

I defer to Jonas.  Make your own.

Jonas, do suggest he buy his marijuana on the street, at a dispensary, or grow his own before the ski trip?

It says right on the packaging to keep out of reach of children, just like your aspirin and heart meds.

Years ago I had to go to the ER for an alergic reaction and a woman brought a two year old in who had eaten mom's home made mushroom fudge. The kid was tripping balls but looked happy. I overheard the staff commenting that the woman was going to be arrested and probably lose custody of her kid. 

That lady should have Dimmed Lights > Allman Brothers'd.

 

 

Has anyone had hot dog onions....with Ganga butter!?

Yep, the old Carter cure!

He was way ahead of his time.

I like the cookies I make at home. Grow your own, bake your own smiley

Barts butter is second to none.  Best pancakes I ever had.

I've found munchies to be problematic when I have a pan of home made cookies, but that's more of a willpower thing. Who wants to cook dinner when they're blazed and there's a pile of cookies handy?

There is no true "Out of reach" to an imaginative child. At age 5-6 I knew that the cookies were far away on the very top shelf. However, several chairs stacked together could make a climb - able structure to gain access.  If stealthy enough, Mom would be none the wiser.

But why go to all the effort for just a few cookies?  Take most of them, leave a few. 

Aahhh, the early taste of sweet larceny.

(they were not ganja-cookies, just ordinary cookies. Mom didn't cook with weed).

Correct Dise -- no way to precisely measure but if you follow a recipe you'll be good. I've know more people that have lost their shit on over the counter edibles than homemade ones. 

 

>remind people to keep their 'Gummies' and 'Cheeba Chews' under lock and key.

Agreed. 

 

 

Hoover from this moment forward please refer to me as C.K.(Cannabis King).   

 

 

>>>>Hoover from this moment forward please refer to me as C.K.(Cannabis King).   

 

Yes, Your Majesty.

lmao because all pot is exactly the same potency, eh? Smh. I'll trust lab results over hippie anecdotes, but good for you starshine. You follow recipes!

 

I've actually never heard of anyone through the dispensary 'losing their shit' on edibles, not saying it never happens, but I'll wager it's people who pair booze with their edibles, or eat way too high a dose. We did have an elderly alzheimers patient come in with her hubby, he was worried because she was dancing and singing after he gave her some edible product. She was happy as could be and it wasn't really a crisis situation other than her husband wasn't expecting "woodstock" in their living room. 

Although I am sober, I do read these threads from time to time and occasionally have questions to ask in order to satisfy my curious nature.

Having spent a lot of time at altitude in Colorado, one becomes familiar that various inebriating substances take on a "multiplier" at Colorado resort altitudes. You get more of a caffeine buzz at 10,000 ft than 7,000 ft or sea level. Same with alcohol. Does the same thing happen with cannabis products? As I said, just curious since I've never heard anyone address that. If that is the case, one might want to start their dosage and an even lower dose than what is recommended in the flatlands.   

We need a Colorado hippie to post. Altitude is more of a goal than an issue on the Cali coast.

 

Famous NYT columnist had a very bad and very public trip on CO edibles bought at a dispensary 

https://nyti.ms/2klUXZo

 

 

 

Thanks again for all the advice folks.  Definitely will stick to sativa.  I remember the first time we purchased legally out there the guy asked "do you want a nice social buzz or do you want to melt into the couch?".  We opted for the social buzz.  I don't smoke nearly as much as I used to so will use extreme caution.

To answer the question above we are renting a house in Eagle-Vail so probably skiing 3 days at Vail and 2 at Beaver.

>>>>>>> various inebriating substances take on a "multiplier" at Colorado resort altitudes

Hmmm, now I know why some of my best, most potent "edibles" experiences have been on airplane trips (coming home from Amsterdam then Colorado a few times).  After tripping that hard on THC I don't think any amount could ever freak me out.

 

Of course since I'm interviewing for jobs now I have to just read this thread & drool.  Good thing I'm still an Alcoholic . . .

Vape pipe Is a discreet, predictable, and easy to use option.

Edible effects are unpredictable even when precise dosage is known.

The body will process and react differently depending on it's current state.

 

Haha I remember that, I think earlier she claimed to have eaten an entire 180mg candy bar, but she seems to have changed it to just a couple nibbles. My memory is a bit dusty on that one so I'll give it to her.

The next day, a medical consultant at an edibles plant where I was conducting an interview mentioned that candy bars like that are supposed to be cut into 16 pieces for novices; but that recommendation hadn’t been on the label.

That's kind of like saying she ate an entire pie because no one told her it would give her a tummyache. I guess pie has suggested serving sizes but still..I'm sure it was labeled 180 mg.

A little common sense goes a long way when you're knowingly indulging in intoxicants.She was obviously able to discuss it with an expert after the fact, so I have a hard time believing an investigative reporter didn't consider researching proper dosage when people on dbmb's do it all the time, but maybe a bad trip was her goal? 

Edibles can be very problematic for a variety of reasons.

Heck, alot of folks can't even figure out how to push a button on a vape pipe and take a hit at the same time.

Lol.

Yeah, I really don't like edibles except for pain management in really low doses. It makes me feel like I'm jumping out of my skin if I get high. Other folks love it, and that's ok. I'm not a vaper either, it tastes like chemicals to me, even the 'good stuff. No need to crackify my herb, thanks.

Kiva Terra bites are good.

That's the third recommendation for Terra bites laugh

for some reason the coffee bean cancels out the edgyness I feel with most edibles.

As someone who snowboards & indulges a lot, I'd definitely recommend a vape pen to go skiing or start out at 2.5 or 5mg and see how you do with an edible.  It's just one of those things that you can't "undo" if you go over the line re: too much.

Having said that, I'd recommend any of the Love's Oven products (brownie bites, small cookies, carmels) that come in a tall white butter sized plastic container.  I've found them to be consistent, potent, and competitively priced (I pay $25 for 10 x 10mg individually wrapped pieces).  Cheeba Chews are also potent and reliable.

 >>>>>Definitely will stick to sativa.  I remember the first time we purchased legally out there the guy asked "do you want a nice social buzz or do you want to melt into the couch?".

 

On the other hand, some number of folks will develop extreme anxiety after consuming sativa edibles but are fine w/ the indica.

 

>>>>> but maybe a bad trip was her goal?

 

I have encountered people like this. 

 Going to see Ryan Adams tonight. 10 or 25mg?

Never had an Edible

 

Enjoy RA - uhollis

uholis... def 25.....

no need, he'll already be asleep :)

no need, he'll already be asleep <<<<

 

Snore Ryan?

T had to type it.

So is it cool to smoke on the slopes in CO? Most of the resorts are leased federal land. I remember back when I lived there Keystone had deputies on the slopes actively trying to bust people smoking, but that was way before it was legal. 

You have to be an idiot get get popped at a 1,000 acre ski area with 2 sheriffs skiing around the blue/green slopes.

Just pop in the woods. Don't be stupid. ie: don't smoke out the gondola.

uhollis:

Is he playing solo?

Solo: 10mg

Band: 25mg

I've told this story before but bears repeating:  Back in the day skiing @ night for Phys Ed credit @ Univ of Pittsburgh, chain toked a few Mini Snow Bongs on the Chairlift then Headrushed Out upon reaching the top;  Came to laying horizontally in a pile of snow powder, both ski's tips firmly emplanted in the snow fence, me not being able to move a muscle, with a circle of Spectators Gawking @ my Awkward Situation.  Nothing Bruised But My Ego.

100 for teh 100 mg bitchez...

 

eat it up.

15mg with a band. It ripped. 

Setlist in the DRA thread. 

I have a buddy who makes edibles all the time. It's his stock, and he knows exactly what he's doing. The dude has it keyed in. He knows the buzz I want and always gives me exactly the right amount. It's uncanny.

A few weeks ago I made some infused oil like they did on that show Bong Appetite. We decarboxylated the  bud, then just threw it in jars with 1/4 cup of coconut oil per jar. Probably about 10g of nuggs per jar. So, 4 jars, each with 1/4 cup of oil and 10g of nuggs. Threw the lids on the jars and put in in. A bath of simmering water for 2.5 hours.

After it was strained, the oil looked more yellow than green, which was weird. I ate a soup spoon of it, plus a few spoon lickings while making chocolates.

My God, I got really fucked up. I was high when I woke up, and well into the next afternoon. I have a whole bunch of the edibles in the freezer, and I'm too scared to eat them because I have no clue what the dose is!

I generally don't like eating it because it stays in me for too long and shuts down my digestive system. It has its time and place though.

When will injecting cannabis oil  start being a thing? The goal seems to be how to get the strongest hit with the least amount of resources.  Reasonable next step to me.

I'm a pussy and don't like to get that high anymore. Sure, there's a time and place, but I'm usually good with a hit or two.

I've been wondering that too, JR. 

The infused oil was our favorite. A friend gave us a quart. We waited until we didn't have herb to smoke. 

We made some home fried potatoes for breakfast to test out the strength. That was my first edible high. Good stuff. 

<<<When will injecting cannabis oil  start being a thing? The goal seems to be how to get the strongest hit with the least amount of resources.  Reasonable next step to me.

 

 

I've been getting oil recently that comes in 1 gram syringes. No "needle", per se, but a half inch long 1/16 wide cylinder for dispensing.

It's supposed to help with filling the pens, but looks sketchy as hell.

Freaked out the better half for sure.

> 100 for teh 100 mg bitchez

Go to your gong room, Jonny, and don't change your strain.

>>Maybe try it out before skiing so you don't do something stupid like forget to get off the chair lift or something. 

haha

Great thread, with some very helpful advise and laughs too.