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first polls close in about 12 hours

Updated Election Meltdowns and rating:

 

Bryen 3.5

Lltd 4.6

when does brunch start?

When the pies are finished baking?

Not gonna be easy for anyone to catch Lltd right now as he started out strong with six consecutive threads last night but Bryen definitely has a path to victory and possibly Six if he makes his presence felt in the next 12 hrs

hand pies? 

The first official results are in!

"Former Vice President Joe Biden took all five of the votes cast for president in Dixville Notch, a tiny New Hampshire township along the US-Canada border that is among the first places in the country to make its presidential preference known.

The ballots were cast in the minutes after midnight, becoming some of the first cast and counted on Election Day."

Bry with his thinly veiled simpleton pseudo intellectualism  is the runaway loser no matter who wins the actual election. He promised big things but even his boy tucker couldn’t pull it off in the end. Multiple angles attempted, multiple fails... I’d give him credit for the attempt but it’s a copy/ paste persona available to anyone with a keyboard and internet connection. 

A day to embrace a nice orderly election process...

Looks like the Zone's best minds and political rabelrousers are up early today ready to provide us with their unique insight..... welcome all.

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Celebrate! Celebrate! Dance to the music!

It's going to be a great day!  Positive vibrations mon. Feels like Christmas Eve! 

Start planning for the party on one-two-oh-two-oh-two-one. We'll be dancing in the streets with the rising sun!

 

Thank you to all the veterans who fought , some of whom gave their lives, to preserve our democracy. Greatest generation indeed! 

And thank you to all the activists taking part, the poll workers, and all who voted! Celebrate America!!! This is our greatest day. 

Hair pie : Bake 1?

#1 - get baked.

#2 - hair pie.

Not to be gross but I'm leaving soon for a colonoscopy (yay).    Had to drink the nasty concoction to prepare and clean everything out.  Point being let's get rid of the sh!t in the White House.  Kind of fitting and at least I'll be away from the news for a few hours. 

 

pizza is second only to fried chicken. 

right? the greatest. 

Slick rock 0.5 Welcome to the race. Four winds, thanks for sharing. Hope there’s no cancer in your butt

Thanks for the laugh 4 Winds, and the poignant comparison. How fitting. 

Tacos are better than pizza.

slack i can't argue that, god dammit. 

Election Melt down update: lltd 4.6 Bryen 3.5 Six 0.6 SlickRock 0.5

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What are the erection results?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh, never mind.

 

 

 

 

 

 

i like this. 

according to bk i'm always at a steady 4.75. 

Twas the day of the election and all thru the zone

Dead heads were praying that Trump would be gone

Many had voted the first chance they got

While others had waited to the last second

Freebird was flying with a thread on Haiku's

While LLTD posted all of their thoughts too

Jazfish was hoping that peace would prevail

With Judit agreeing empathetic as well

And while Bryen was trying to stir up the pot

He and his cultists only showed their brain rot

Sculptor retorted while Ken had the facts

Surfdead continued to mock all those who're red

I did my usual posting of memes

Pyramid pointed out the hypocrisies he sees

And while no one knows how this day will turn out

I really hope we vote the fucking bastards out!!!

 

 

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^haha nice. 

>>according to bk I'm always at a steady 4.75

It's all relative, man, but I think that the 4.75 is way too high. A baseline of 2.0 is more realistic, but if you're on a neolib roll it rides at 4.0. I'm worried about Timpy these days though.He's been super angry and passive aggressive ever since his wife made him vote for Biden. I can't blame him though.

^Troll

So

tacos > fried chicken > pizza

I'm almost on-board with that

enough at least to unite together as one people!

sacrifices will be made by many

the struggle

is real

tacos>fried chicken>pizza 


trump will get rolled

p-heat will get covid relief for his pizza palace

he'll have a special pinning for his staff

then go immediately to eBay and buy a bear bronze syf buckle

 

future's bright

 

So, Timpy, when you tell people they are melting it's a-ok, but when others say it about you it's trolling? ha ha

haha thod. that was funny, you bitter bitch. 

Hey ogkb, I was thinking about you while watching Antiques Roadshow last night. That JFK stuff came close to $1 million in 2020 prices.

tacos > fried chicken > pizza > ...........................netflix>.................................................trolls

haha oh jesus. i need a break from the liquid man.

back at it in december. 

wait a darn minute!

cannabis > psilocybin mushrooms > tacos > fried chicken > pizza > ...........................netflix>.................................................trolls


>>> haha thod. that was funny, you bitter bitch <<<

 

it's cool...

'Cause you're a sweet little softcore pretender.

 

Lol, You forgot the Sweet Tarts 6.

i don't know what that means. 

i never saw jerry tho. 

there she is. our favorite little pony. 

Poor BK wants so hard to be relevant but is just so tenaciously terrible at zoning. 

If you're tracking voting on Twitter, follow this guy today.

https://twitter.com/Redistrict

I posted this in another thread but Wasserman has access to private district polling data and is usually spot-on. He was about the only polling guru to say Hillary was in big trouble in the days leading up to the last election. He has Biden winning Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Georgia and Arizona, but losing Florida for 310 electoral votes.

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I don't try anything, Timpy, but I'll always be more relevant than you. I know, it's hard for you, so maybe just go back to being exclusively a troll? 

2016 - chump was declared the victor by 10pm est election nite

After tonight's landslide, Slow Joe will be declared victor by 9:30

^trump didn't win PA until like 2am.....

Georgia and North Carolina should have vote totals fairly early. If Biden wins either of those it's gonna be over quick. 

Pennsylvania will take forever to get a total count. Not sure how long it'll take to tabulate the Philly totals, which will be overwhelmingly Biden. Trump is banking on PA lingering for days so him and the GOP can pull their usual fuckery. 

 

Team viva is amazing

a lot of wit and creativity 

titters, chuckles and yes, belly laughs today )Esp I rearranged piles of shit(

this thread rocks 

strong work: love to all, no exceptions 

 

 

special mention and thanks to team admin 

What a great playground with some Kindness, a lot of freedom of speech, some educational /  intellectual exchange,  and more than a little creativity 

 

Trump just came into the RNC to speak. He looked exhausted and beaten. He knows he's on borrowed time. 

the oligarch already won. all 538 electoral votes. 

Bk in pre melt mode. Getting ready to blow. 

Good. Time to kick that white trash, disgustingly corrupt "family" out of the White House.

Timpy...have you ever read up on the psychological term known as "Projection"? lol

Oregon is already at 73% turnout due to mail-in voting!

Driving across Portland yesterday was freaky -- loads of Trumper trucks being bullies on the freeway, even saw an old sticker "Trump won, get over it."

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you 2 don't need to be punks.  lets show some grace and respect on this most important of days. 

just for fun- as these terms eem to be thrown around loosely, what are some of your definitions of:

 

1 A: " meltdown "?

1 B:  " the scoring system of "meltdown: you use:{see Lance's empathy post below - seems to fit}

2:   Ranting?

3:  Trolling?

4: being a hypocrite / a "pot calling the kettle black"

 

 

Heathon "It's a trick question.

EVERYBODY believes they are empathetic and compassionate, and most people often ARE... to those like them.

It's easy to "be nice" when everybody's nice (or thinks the same way).

Can you be nice to those who aren't nice or don't think just like you?

THAT'S empathy & compassion.

It seems so much more these days, probably because of the internet & social media, everyone is SO ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN that they're RIGHT!

Superiority, anger, insults & evil deeds done in the name of righteousness have always been a major flaw in the human condition, and that isn't going away, so you want to be part of the solution? Then especially to those who aren't like you, "be nice" i.e. empathetic & compassionate.

That's not easy, but IMO THAT is the true essence of empathy & compassion."

55 posts and only one is about election results.

 

Pace yourselves...

Breaking News

A federal judge in Washington, D.C. has ordered the U.S. postal Service to conduct an Election Day "sweep" of facilities in more than 10 states to make sure no mail-in ballots have been held up.

U.S. District Judge Emmet G. Sullivan issued the order for certain postal districts in Alabama, Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Texas, Wyoming and parts of Northern New England. The order affects several major cities in those states, including Atlanta, Detroit and Philadelphia.

He told the Postal Service to send "postal inspectors or their designees" to sweep the facilities "to ensure that no ballots have been held up and that any identified ballots are immediately sent out for delivery."

Election officials in several states, along with the NAACP and voting rights groups, have sued the Postal Service, charging that actions by Postmaster General Louis DeJoy had slowed the mail, and risked delaying the delivery of mail in ballots.

The Postal Service says it has suspended those actions, and that it is taking extraordinary steps to ensure that mail in ballots are processed on time. It says it has processed and delivered some 122 million mail in ballots.

However data submitted to the court indicates that the Postal Service is not meeting its on time delivery goals for first class mail in some key swing states, including Michigan and Pennsylvania.

Some 27.5 million mail ballots are outstanding, according to the U.S. Elections Project.

— Brian Naylor, NPR Correspondent, Washington Desk

Is anyone else's city/town all boarded up in "anticipation of riots"? I guess businesses here have been boarding up their doors and windows over the last few days.

 

It's unclear just who they think will be rioting, but apparently we're all gonna die when the election results are in.

 

the melt scale is a 0-5 scale, 5 being nuclear. not sure why, it just is.

Dickhead Ned posting nervously and jittery knowing that if Biden loses he is gonna melt, moan and cry all over this thread. 

>>Timpy...have you ever read up on the psychological term known as "Projection"? lol

That's what I was thinking. Maybe his wife can explain the concept to him??

Thanks for the update, LLOLLO!  wink

 

Dise: I just went for a little walk and there was a helicopter taking wide circles around my neighborhood.  Just wondering what is going on and what it will be like tonight.

thod will you move out of trump country if biden loses? 

for the record -- it's OK to put kids in cages, just not let them die? correct? 

Bk, are you willing to post your garbage calf tatoo on the zone again? Still pissed you have to live with that forever?

The Reps are like the fans of one of those sports teams that riot when they win and riot when they lose.

attempt two

 

- as these terms eem to be thrown around loosely, what are some of your definitions of:

 

1 A: " meltdown "?

1 B:  " the scoring system of "meltdown: you use:{see Lance's empathy post below - seems to fit}

2:   Ranting?

3:  Trolling?

4: being a hypocrite / a "pot calling the kettle black"

 

thanks in advance team viva

 

1:54 p.m. -- WBAL-TV 11 News reporter Lowell Melser clocked the line in York, Pennsylvania, and found people had been waiting in line to vote for about 3 hours! By his observation, the line was at least a quarter-mile long.

3 p.m. -- 296,303 people in Maryland have voted in person so far Tuesday, according to the Maryland State Board of Elections. - Jayne Miller

Meltdown: remember a few weeks ago when Javs got his hand spanked, and he lost his shit? In the modern era, that's a 5.0 meltdown.

It was his incessant rants that were the precursor to the melt.

Being a hypocrite would be spending the last year putting down and verbally berating those who supported anything other than a Progressive, and then voting for a neoliberal.

neoliberals gave us trump. 

Democratic turnout surging in Broward County late this afternoon after a big initial Republican wave in Florida early in the day. Apparently Cubans love Trump so it'll be interesting to see how the Miami Dade splits are.

I think there's a better chance than not that Biden UNDER performed in the polls and Trump gets wrecked tonight.

Bk gave java a hand spanking.

who spanks hands? 

- Bk, are you willing to post your garbage calf tatoo on the zone again? Still pissed you have to live with that forever?

- Being a hypocrite would be spending the last year putting down and verbally berating those who supported anything other than a Progressive, and then voting for a neoliberal.

 

I'd rate BK's burn a little higher on the burn scale then Timpster's. 

I'm real hurt by that JR but I don't have to wear it on my body until I die.


>>> thod will you move out of trump country if biden loses? <<<

 

nah, I'm a fighter...

 

I've got deep roots, something you won't ever understand.

 

you got ran out of philly because your grit wasn't legit, lol

 

 

haha you're crazy man. 

which way is the nitrous mafia leaning?

racket gets his memes from don jr.'s twitter. 

Timpy...are you familiar with Ruiz's Four Agreements? You are in violation of two, possibly three of the agreements.

as always, racket's contributions are appreciated. 

heater, did you vote? i'm genuinely curious. 


polls are still open

plenty of time to carry your own water

 

>which way is the nitrous mafia leaning?<

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they appreciate a well run crime syndicate and are very disappointed in Trump and his cronies

I feel like we’re all waiting on biopsy results 

^^^ Lol, nice work! 

nicolle wallace, joy and rachel up next on msnbc for the big show. places people!

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ready to watch Portland burn.


remain calm people

trump's getting rolled

 

I have seen Kentucky and Indiana called for Trump and Vermont for Biden.

Florida is counting its votes fast with almost 50% reporting.  Biden has about a 200,000 vote lead there so far.   If Florida goes for Biden, that basically seals the deal.

Nicolle looks great. Love her hair!


>>> If Florida goes for Biden, that basically seals the deal. <<<

if biden loses fla. 

means nothing...

many more paths to victory for biden

trump's gotta sweep

 

NC, AZ or GA seal the deal (assuming Biden gets WI and MI)

Only 17% of the vote has been counted in Kentucky and they call it?!!!

...and Turtlehead is leading McGrath by 10 pts

exit polls are f'd!

in other news, Trump appointee DeJoy @USPS has defied a judges order: 

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>>> Only 17% of the vote has been counted in Kentucky and they call it?!!!

.and Turtlehead is leading McGrath by 10 pts <<<


mcturtle was always gonna win

 

 

so then why not raise 200mil for booker instead? he'd represent the left's way more popular agenda than the neolibs/gop. 

b/c her job was to defeat booker for the establishment -- her job has been done. 


i was all in for booker

 

Well, looks like Florida will go to Trump after all, but Biden has a nice lead in Ohio, and if he can flip that state, Trump's path gets much, much harder.  Biden is also leading in Texas with 40%+ reporting, but don't know if that will last.

Now that everyone has a little buzz on, this thread could use more pics of half naked voters

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Thank you Alan, for making America greater.

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Trump voter


^^^ chelsea handler for biden, she gets it

 

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apparently naked voting is discouraged 

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not sure how to explain the homoeroticism but there is nothing wrong with it either 

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Trump voter

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I mean, we kinda forgot about it, but isn't it a little strange out First Lady posed naked on a fur rug handcuffed to a briefcase?  And we consider it completely normal.

They used to give Jackie Kennedy shit for carrying the wrong purse.

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Hickenlooper for the win in Colorado. One less Republican senator. 

 

PBS coverage is tolerable. Who you watchin?

Recording and watching 2.

I switched from watching PBS and am currently watching Democracy Now.

Both OK. DN better.

Alot of FF on both.

 

Got a feeling like we're gonna have to wait a couple days for Pennsylvania to tally all the votes to decide the election.

Just what Trump wanted. The shit show nears.

Biden winning Arizona might be the only thing that'd save us from waiting.

Biden voter.

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I'm getting depressed...  someone post some good news.. It's 10 pm EST and I'm seeing a lot of red.

This sucks.

Not looking good.

I just turned on the TV and got scared. 

The "shy Trump voter" we've heard about that affects polling negatively for him might be a real thing. Voters not wanting others to know they're bigoted and racist. Makes sense I suppose.

Still think Biden wins Michigan and Wisconsin. The polls would have to be WAY off for Trump to win those. Pennsylvania is anyone's guess. Biden seems like a favorite there but they're not gonna count all the votes tonight.

Arizona is massive. Biden winning that might be the only way to save us from waiting. He could get to 270 tonight. But his big leads have dwindled all night too.

Might be a loooong couple days. 

 

 


10:36pm est. on election day 

lotta bed wetting going on

 

 

<lotta bed wetting going on>

Bed wetting? I'm about to pull an Amber Heard and shit on Johnny Depp's pillow.

Fuck, I date the decline of American civilization starting when 3s Company came on and comedy got replaced by stupid sexual innuendos and loud laugh tracks. It led directly to the Honey Boo Boo Nation. Add video games, 30 years of hate talk radio and divisive cable tv and and stagnant Dem politicians with their lame-o bumper stickers and presto--- here we are!

that and dryer sheets, Alan.  dont forget those fugazi scents 

Why am I crying this early in the evening? 
And only 1 Jubel Ale in...

By this time 4 yrs ago it was already called for the idiots guy.

Lots of mail-ins to be counted. But I am afraid the blue tsunami ain't happening. 

We need the senate if he wins re-election and that ain't looking good either.  One up one down last I heard.

I should have started drinking earlier.

 

 

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yes

Nice JD.

 

<that and dryer sheets, Alan.  dont forget those fugazi scents >

listen, don't get me started on air fresheners, dryer sheets and fake synthetic scents in everything that doesn't need it.

Breathing those chemicals is toxic and the commercialization of inhale-able nasty molecules is obscene. It's one of the worse human pollutions, and adversely affects neuronal and hormonal systems, among others.

Some alien would look down and ask incredulously, "You profit off ruining the air you breathe?"

ap now

 

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Yes Todd. Following that. But Look at all the states they have not called yet. In vast majority "it" is winning.

But then we have the absentees still to be counted.  Gonna be a long few days.   Was really hoping to claim huge victories tonight............


sure, sleep tight marked 

 

As of now, we even lose the House.


it's been a fucked up 4 years 

stretched beyond belief 

you're not alone

 

Not for awhile Tod.  But working on it..........

 

Listen folks that are still up and West Coasters, I gotta go crash. I'm leaving it in your hands. I'd like to wake up to a sunny future.

I need a miracle. 

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We all do. We deserve it.

Add video games<<<

I am so happy you left Foosball out of your comment. 


ap now

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Sleep well Alan.  Mexican screws will get me there eventually.

 

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How many ec votes in Arizona and Maine?

Anybody else having trouble posting?

 

Things ain't as I hoped, but a LOT of the uncounted votes in the big three are early votes which seemed to favor Biden. Here's hoping.

My god. Gonna be an uncomfortable week ahead. But there's reason to be hopeful. The fat lady isn't even warming up yet.  

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Arizona 11, Maine 4, Mark.   

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^ lol

 

That ain't enough Slick. We gotta hope the mailins are counted(and mostly blue). And enough to turn a few states looking red right now.

 

It is not like last time though. This time I knew he had a good chance of winning.  

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Huh?

 

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>>> Huh? <<<

will graham

hannibal lecter *young

 

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Mark, you didn't think he had a good chance of winning last time?

I thought Clinton would win by a nose, I was pretty sure the scales would tip just enough to her side, but no....

This feels like that but as above posters have said, there is hope...

 

Actually I thought it was fixed for Hillary. Like "they" promised it to her from before.  Boy was I wrong. I was still up after midnight thinking they would come out and fix  a mistake.  Like Wisconsin was really blue afterall.    Bad fucking night. Also I had faith that our country would never vote for a racist prick like him. Like I said a bad night all around.

 

Like tonight only worse.

Trump just announced he "won this election".

Great.

He's probably right. He just said he would go to his supreme court.

 

Just like the worst case scenario that we were afraid of.

Yes, it's all going according to script.

Too fucking predictable.....

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Yes, open wide!

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The election polls lol. Liberals got duped just like 2016. The states Biden needed he couldn't get and trump our campaigned him in the last two weeks in those states. Good job biden

The polls were off, but Biden's taken a small lead in Wisconsin and has closed ground big-time in Michigan with a huge chunk of the Detroit vote still out. If he wins those two states it's over.

Probably all kinds of lawsuits ahead though.

DC decriminalizes entheogenic plants and fungi (contain ibogaine, dimethyltryptamine, mescaline, psilocybin, or psilocyn).

all biden had to do was offer universal healthcare. 

So the only good news you got for me is, Kanye West is not President?

I'm going back to sleep

 

Lol at still thinking that if Biden was more liberal, he would have had this in the bag.

The cold, hard fact is that a huge swath of the nation is to the right of Atilla the Hun. They are "anti Left," and they came out to vote. Had  Biden backed M4A, he would have been painted as even more of a Communist, and this election would have been wrapped up fr Trump by midnight.

I agree BK, 

Personally, I think two other recent things had big impact... 1) The mute button won Trump people, 2) Joe’s oil and fracking comments. 

>all biden had to do was offer universal healthcare. <

You think that would entice more people to vote for him, huh? The bribe-poor-people strategy?

I think that sentiment would be canceled out by the people who already pay a lot for healthcare that would say. "Why should my hardearned money go to pay for YOUR medical bills? There's no free ride in America." 

I applaud your idealism, but individualistic instincts and selfishness will win out over higher taxes to pay for the collective good and public health common sense -- the John Wayne mythology is strong in today's America.

>all biden had to do was offer universal healthcare. <

How about offering some ideas that could be summarized on a bumpersticker?

I'm fairly well informed and still can't really tell you in a few words "what Biden stands for."

He could have printed up tens of millions of signs that  just said "Dump Trump" if that was the big message. I didn't see them.

Build Back Better? really? big Dem fail.

Trump won Florida, in large part, because he mobilized the massive Cuban and Venezuelan Americans to come out and vote against that Socialist, Biden. He made huge inroads in Miami-Dade with that tactic.

It looks like Biden outperformed Clinton in many, many of the urban and suburban areas. At the same time, Trump outperformed his  2016 numbers in all those shithole, backwards-ass counties.

huge dem fail. lol. we saw this in 2016 -- corporate establishment dem rejected, votes go to the fake populist. 

that's why bernie would have had this packed in by now. 

<<<>>>I think that sentiment would be canceled out by the people who already pay a lot for healthcare that would say. "Why should my hardearned money go to pay for YOUR medical bills? There's no free ride in America." 

this is what the corporate dems and gop push. they had ned saying unions don't want m4a during the primary, this is just false. they shouldn't have to sacrifice wage for healthcare -- this is why unions back m4a, and their bargaining efforts can be concentrated on other issues. absurd.

<<<>>>He could have printed up tens of millions of signs that  just said "Dump Trump" if that was the big message. I didn't see them.

yeah, that was biden's main message, and the dnc. pure failure like we were saying all along -- biden stands for nothing, which is why he states nothing will fundamentally change. he said that. why would we not believe him? 

trump has done better w/ every race in 20 except white men lol. biden said fuck you to the latino vote (bernie didn't). 

 

 

Biden's got Wisconsin, and it looks like Michigan is going to turn once Detroit's votes are counted. Is our long national nightmare finally coming to an end?

If Michigan flips, G-reg-ulator will be an even bigger mess.

>>biden said fuck you to the latino vote (bernie didn't). 

Where do you come up with this dreck? There is absolutely no truth to this, at all. The Latinx vote isn't a monolith, and there's a huge difference in the voting priorities of the Cubans and Venezuelans vs Mexicans, Puerto Ricans and Central Americans. Biden did very well with the latter.

You can't just make shit up to back a faulty hypothesis.

Imagine not being able to beat an intellectually challenged, sociopathic real-estate scammer....twice!

The Dems figured they could prop up and old man and pair him with an unlikable cackling black woman and voila, instant winner. Why? Because that's what the data shows! Never mind that there isn't a firm platform. Pelosi and her backroom crew should be hung out to dry, but they won't. 

Other contributing factors.

- Black people are victims and white people are all racist and privileged.....all hammered down throughout the year via organizations and the media. I think this pushed back some of the vote (especially in the swing states) to Trump.

- Resentment against Democratic Governors and their handling of COVID. I'd have to imagine this played a role.

- Riots - Through a pandemic, riots were many times left unchecked, I think a lot of people are uncomfortable with this position toward the rule of law. Once again, tipping votes toward the Don.

This whole thing says way more about the awful, pandering Democrats than it does for Trump. 

What a joke. 

 

Yes, ogkb, the majority of Americans want universal health. What you're failing to recognize is that it is not yet THE single issue that they are going to vote on. Do you really think that people are going to shift their priorities from "anti choice" or some fallacy about Trump's wonderful economy to universal health? No way.

i know, bk -- no shit. 

and are you serious? haha. 

imagine if there was no corona, trump would've run biden out of the country -- the dems need to be gutted and cleaned out completely, even if biden pulls this out. fucking stupid. 

 

here's one of many examples:

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Chillax thincrust.

Focus, ogkb, you're all over the place.

Unreal election. 
I had no idea nazism was so popular here in the US. Country still so fucked, I'm so ashamed of us.

Nationwide we're totally divided, I hoped for a better display of unity 
I had hoped for big change. Even if Biden wins the repubs still keep the senate and nothing gets done for 4 more years.
And trump may still win, showing how fucked this country really is.

People are literally and figuratively sick of covid and want the country opened up. This was the repub ace in the hole.

Nice Job New Jersey !  Weed won in every state it was on the ballot. Small victories.

 

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>>>>>corporate establishment dem rejected, votes go to the fake populist. - that's why bernie would have had this packed in by now. 

 

How does A imply B?

Just because you say "Biden lost (he hasn't yet), therefore Bernie would have won", it doesn't make it so.

IMO Sanders would be behind where Biden is at present.

Well I 'm not reading anything this morning about how the Hunter Biden super-duper your-great grandchildren-will-forever-read-about-this-biggest-scandel-of-all time-criminal-conspiracy prompted a landslide for Trump...nobody mentioned it in exit polls and so....er....it seems that it was not a CHECKMATE move, so I guess Giuliani parrot Flyen Bryen was not too astute about that part. No wonder the Hillary campaign didn't hire him. Political operative indeed. 

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If Biden takes Arizona, Nevada, Wisconsin, Michigan, all the Maine districts, and gets the one Nebraska district, he's at 270 electoral votes.  This is the path.

it's a total joke that Washington D.C. and Puerto Rico, which both have greater populations than Wyoming, don't get electoral votes.

Well, the EC is a joke, but PR and DC aren't states.

Presidential elections shouldn't be counted by state, but by national popular vote totals alone.

Sanders may not have won either but at least it would have been two firebrands, two distinct ideologies, two people who really connect (for better and in some cases, worse) with people. 

But instead we get Donald running against a lifeless Biden and Harris algorithm. 

I mean jesus, Hillary probably should have run again. At least people really love or hate her, which is better than have no feeling at all. 

Agreed, Surf.

As a follow-up to the EC math, if Trump wins the one Maine district, and Biden can't flip Georgia, North Carolina or Pennsylvania, and Biden takes Arizona, Nevada, Wisconsin, Michigan and the one Nebraska district, it will be a 269-269 deadlock.  If no one gets 270, the House of Representatives chooses the President, and the Senate chooses the Vice-President.

Biden-Pence would be bizarrely fitting for this bizarro year. 

Speaking of the Electoral College, did I see Biden had 5 million more votes as of this morning? Or did I not not see that properly in my pre-coffee haze? 

There is a path with Michigan just turning to Joe. Patience, and a helluva lot of hope. Damn, this is excruciating. What an incredibly strange election.   

Still, even if he does win, without the Senate, it's gonna be real tough. But still much better than what we had. Amazing to think it might be Arizona and Nevada that gives Joe the win. 

>this is what the corporate dems and gop push.<

No-- it's what I hear from even former deadheads that make decent bucks, maybe small business owners that hire people and treat them right, who think they are unfairly overtaxed and drive thru gutted, crime-ridden neighborhoods on their way to their jobs. "No  free lunch you homeless junkie. Get a job, you'll get health insurance." Sure they love their brother -- until money is coming out of their own pockets. They are already paying outrageous bills for parental care in nursing homes as well as steep copays for their families and they say enough is enough. 

Many of these folks went to college, played by the rules (except the drug related ones), and live blissfully in the manicured suburbs, far from the daily grind of poverty and abuse. They are not going to share a doctor's waiting room with the freebie crowd. They are also armed and fearful of crime -- not the neighbor kid who's broken into their house twice for opiates -- they are fearful of being carjacked when they go down to the city.

So it's not as easy / simple as you make it out.

 

 

If no one gets 270, the House of Representatives chooses the President, and the Senate chooses the Vice-President.

Biden-Pence would be bizarrely fitting for this bizarro year. 

If neither candidate wins the Electoral College and the election goes to the House of Representatives, Trump would win as president, not Biden. Votes in that scenario are allocated not by population but in the same manner as the US Senate. The Republicans has more states right now and will probably still have more states when it is all said and done. No mixed party Pres/VP possibilites.  

Re the Latino vote for Trump:

This could be a big stereotype, but my friend from San Jose (who happens to be a Mexican-born, US citizen) theorizes that in the last twenty years many hardworking Latino families have gradually bought more homes in primarily white, blue collar neighborhoods -- and that (here comes the stereotype) Latino males are very attracted to the macho, big truck culture they see all around them. Voting for Trump is a way to assimilate. If they act all pro-Trump they can sit around the backyard and trash talk with the neighbors -- and they are not enamored with undocumented immigrants mucking things up for them and even taking their jobs. He says it's naive to think Latinos are a monolithic cultural voting block. Ah tell you what..

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>>>>If Biden takes Arizona, Nevada, Wisconsin, Michigan, all the Maine districts, and gets the one Nebraska district, he's at 270 electoral votes.  This is the path.

Yep and the latest results now show Biden with a small lead in Wisconsin and Michigan and the trend as more of the votes are counted is looking good.  Feel much better this morning than last night. 

Thanks for the insight Tony, I was unaware that they apportion the votes by state in the House.  Looks like Joe needs to win Georgia, North Carolina or Pennsylvania.  
 

Unfortunately, Ken, that one vote Joe picked up in Nebraska is going to be cancelled by the one vote he is going to lose in the Northern Maine district.

Who would've thought that the election would be decided by Nevada. Anyone call that?

I went back and forth what scenario would be more tolerable if we didn't sweep up the piles of dog shit.

Dem President/Repub Senate or vice versa

Biden should squeek in but not without a judicial fight.

 

I'm heartbroken we lost the Senate. Fucking Mitch will have at least 2 more years of getting nothing done for the American people. Kiss a Coronavirus bill good bye.

The only thing that gives me any pleasure now is knowing the SDNY will put Trump in prison.

 

I'm physically ill this morning.

It Georgia, North Carolina or Pennsylvania flip, Nevada is irrelevant.

Wrong, Dave. Biden would be at 264 if he takes WI and MI. Nevada is worth six. Trump would be at 264 if he took NC, GA and PA.

 

So yes it comes down to nevada if that stands

I did my very best trying to help NC turn "Carolina Blue"

I spent 5 days curing mail in ballots that were rejected.

Yesterday morning the BOE changed the rules. We were all stunned.

 

Would be the fucking story of my life to get pulled into some legal bullshit because I had the heart to volunteer and help people. You wouldn't believe the amount of lawyers already investigating what happened. 

 

 

>>Who would've thought that the election would be decided by Nevada. Anyone call that?

If things play out for Biden as it's unfolding my buddy TJ will have 100% predicted the election results to a T on Monday when he sent me the map he predicted.

You're right, Mr. Timpane, I just double-checked the math, and Joe hits 270 with Nevada, Wisconsin and Michigan.  Thank our lucky stars.  I think Biden will win at least one of Georgia, North Carolina and Pennsylvania, but he won't have to.

I'm going ahead and calling Biden-Harris for the win.  
 

Super surprised once again at the sheer number of white males who went to the polls for Trump.  It honestly amazes me that nearly half the country is racist.  

Does it really amaze you, JR? What do you think was shown 4 years ago when the same half of the country voted Trump? 
It honestly shouldn't amaze you anymore. And if you really dig into the history of this country - you are going to find that there has always been a large contingent of racists in this country.

Yes, but I guess I was hoping that after four years some had died off and those who were 14 four years ago and now eligible to vote were perhaps less racist.

The racist/supremacist narrative has now been given credibility by our supreme leader for the last four years. The scariest part of this entire presidency is that no matter what, the stage is set for years to come ... like a Trumpy said, “you can vote him out but WE ain’t going away”

scary shit

>>>>there has always been a large contingent of racists in this country.

This country has a lot of good things going for it, but ultimately it was built and designed by and for wealthy, white, male, slaveholders.  Stolen land, stolen people.  Although there have been improvements over the years, that dynamic is alive and well and the ruling class uses racism to keep the working class divided.

>>Yes, but I guess I was hoping that after four years some had died off and those who were 14 four years ago and now eligible to vote were perhaps less racist.

 

220,000+ beautiful souls, most of them voting age, didn't get a chance to have their voices heard. 

 

There are a lot of people who may not be racist, but they sure as hell aren't anti-racist. They have their single issues that they vote on, and that's all they care about. It's like they live in single issue bubbles, and are able to completely block out all the other noise and chatter. The scandals, racism, anti-democracy, nepotism, Covid, pro religion, etc are meaningless to them, as long as their votes go to the guy who is anti-abortion, or strong economy, or anti Communism.

People tend to underestimate the sheer number of ignorant, uneducated or under-educated mother-fuckers who live in this country.

220,000+ beautiful souls,

its actually 219,999 beautiful souls, you forgot about herman cain

totally agree, brian k, but if i'm being honest, it only seems like an abstract idea and something not real to me.  living in one of the 3 most ultra-liberal inner city bubbles, I literally never see or interact with any of those people.  i don't know 1 Trump supporter even i go 2 or 3 times removed from friends and family members. 

Bottom line. Every White Person who Voted for Trump is a Racist?

Every person of color who voted for Trump is a sellout OR wants to be White & possibly hates themselves?

JR, you need to take a drive out into the country.

Driving by white trashville and seeing Trump signs and running into 1 in a country store is different than rubbing shoulders and interacting with those people on a daily basis. 

I know 2 people who voted for Trump. One cares about the economy and his arsenal of high powered weaponry. He honestly thinks that Biden would take his guns, and that he'd send us in to a repression. He refuses to hear that true unemployment is over 25%, and we're headed that way anyway.

The other hates all politicians and thinks that they are all lying sacks of shit, out solely for their own best interests. He voted for Trump to piss off all his liberal friends who whine incessantly about Trump. I kind of respect his voting for Trump way more than I do the other dude.

Keep The Faith!

Trump going out not with a bang, but a Wi/Mi/Pa...

In other election news, Oregon legalized medical psilocybin and decriminalized all other drugs.

<<and decriminalized all other drugs

what does that actually mean?

Spun out SJW's.

That means cocaine, heroin, meth, ecstasy, etc. will only get you a ticket not jail time.

It means people can no longer be arrested for possession of stuff like LSD, cocaine, heroin, etc.   Maximum $100 fine, which could be waived if the person agrees to undergo a health assessment. 

https://www.opb.org/article/2020/11/04/oregon-measure-110-decriminalize-...

Trump is toast and he knows it.

Biden takes Wisconsin and Arizona. 

Two for one!

"You're fired!"

and

"Lock him up"

Not sure if that totally takes away the sting of losing the Senate but let's take what we can get

 

so if biden wins and dems don't get the senate...

= more gridlock and nada > another reactionary q-anon quacko.

I’d take that scenario any day of the year over having the flaming a’hole Cheeto Ranger in the office

guess i would too at this point...

however...i think it will make more repub states...

and give way to an even scarier populist...

 

I don't know, Turts. It's pretty heartening to see the trend of states shifting blue, like Texas, North Carolina and Georgia. As their urban and suburban areas grow, they'll turn solid blue. Those shithole rural counties all over the country aren't becoming more populated.

My god, it would take a unique personality to be a scarier populist than Trump.

as of like 2 seconds ago its looking like biden is wrapping things up

cnn called michigan for biden, but has not yet called arizona

ap has called arizona for biden, but has not yet called michigan

if both are true, joe biden only needs one more state, regardless of which one. even if he takes nevada, with the lowest number of electoral college votes out of any state still in play, and trump carries all other states still in play including PA, biden wins.

Yes, NV will seal the deal. No need to bother with PA or GA or NC....all an after thought.

Is this when we start crying our neoliberal tears?

as disappointed as i am to miss more 2016 style neoliberal tears, 2020 donald trump tears are going to be significantly more delicious and satisfying.

If the Democrats take the two Georgia Senate seats, it's 50 Republicans to 48 Democrats with two liberal-leaning Independents.  Harris breaks the ties.  The Senate is still up for grabs.

Hoping Bryen drops by for a Wednesday Afternoon surprise to go with a slice of Humble Pie and a shit sandwich.

But Dave, the Russia scam!!!!

Hahahahaha, yup, enjoy a nice hot and fresh crap sandwich tonight, "Bry".

Where is hunter in the news today?

Today's Phrase is Fu*k you; keep counting.

Trump just declared victory again. Guess it’s over

When I hear that Biden/Harris have won I will go out to my car and honk the horn repeatedly. Obnoxiously joyfully loudly. I'm ready.

Won’t be any more annoying then listening to the orange windbag carry on for the last 5 years

Funny Judit, I just watched the TV for a quick minute and when I saw folks saying it's going our way, I also thought "I'm gonna hop in my car" when they announce! 

Stood in the middle of a Trump flag waving gathering in town yesterday afternoon with a home made "Lock Him Up!" sign. Across the street were BLM protestors, who enjoyed that view. 

^Substantially less, I'd say......

Trump's Tweet:

We have claimed, for Electoral Vote purposes, the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania (which won’t allow legal observers) the State of Georgia, and the State of North Carolina, each one of which has a BIG Trump lead. Additionally, we hereby claim the State of Michigan if, in fact there was a large number of secretly dumped ballots as has been widely reported!

In a separate Tweet Trump calls shotgun in the prison bus and dibs on the lower bunk in cellblock9...

i wonder if hunter biden is following any of this?

"We have claimed..." give me a break! 

None of the leads he claims as "big" are that "big" .... with a lot of votes left to be counted...

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LOCK HIM UP!!!!

Interesting that on Fox News' website, they have already called Arizona for Biden, but CNN has not

I bet Nevada is waiting to announce tonight so it can happen on Hannity’s watch and he can announce the big news it to the best and brightest himself 

That guy nailed it El Nino.

 

Nevada still at 8,000 votes.  Georgia looking promising. Mailins running 70% for Biden there and he needs 65% of uncounted.

 

Hoping Bryen drops by for a Wednesday Afternoon surprise to go with a slice of Humble Pie and a shit sandwich.

 

"Oh you won't be be seeing Brian around here anymore."

"Leave the gun, take the cannolis".

 

Bry is waiting until the fervor dies down and the details of the lawsuits start....then he will be along to say he didn’t want to ruin the party today but waited politely but that now he is going to explain why we were wrong all along and that he tried to explain months ago but we weren’t quite ready to be “informed.” then he will announce that he has the light for anyone who wishes to see

Is it over yet? Can I look?

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In 2021, Republican Party will have more QAnon Members of House of Representatives than African Americans.

Can we get more naked pics of the first um, lady?

 

Trump is so smart. He's suing MI to stop counting votes when he's behind. I can see why byren likes him. 

Melania could shoot someone in the middle of the street in broad daylight... and she wouldn't care.

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So, did the Bernie Bros vote for Biden or Trump?

Here she is relating to the poor, rural, evangelical, white working class voters

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Melania is arty.

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more republicans voted trump this year than in '16. 

 

They sure did show up to vote for Trump. I also believe that Biden got more votes than any candidate in history.

It's nice to see a high voter turnout.

Biden has some naughty pics on the Internet, as well

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Good job everybody.

Idiots are about to riot outside of  where they are counting ballots in Arizona.  It has started.

At least it looks like the cops are on the right side. This time.

They have never ending votes everywhere now. Maybe next time hire enough people to count them? Crazy, I know. Biden better not try and talk some shit like he don't love him some Covid 19. That was the best thing that ever happened to that guy. That and ass kissing with Exxon Mobil the last year to get the bid. Congrats to joe Biden lovers. Can't wait to watch the innocent murdering of more people in the Middle East the next couple of years. Go Biden
 

I'd def smash with melaina. 

Dry your tears, Timpane - and don't even waste a minute trying to convince us you're not crying.

Don't make me laugh, six. I just think it's great when people get all up in arms for politicians for murder people. Cracks me up

And to think, Timpy, your wife made you vote for the murderer.

Alan is proving himself to be an old man perv.

Yeah, but he's good at it.

I can appreciate Alan's perviness! Thanks for the morning laugh.

 

I wish someone would have put up a billboard in Times Square with these photos next to the Jared one asking the public

"This is our First Lady"

"Art or Porn?"

"Decorum or white trash?"

VOTE!

 

We are the shining beacon of the world? We have a lot of work to do salvaging our reputation. It's going to take more than 4 years.

 

 

 

horrible couple days for the democrats. 

neoliberalism was rejected, straight up. 

a republican senate and biden presidency is hilarious. the dems are corrupt to the core and barley beat the neofascist during a pandemic where 250k americans are dead and counting. stunning. 

biden is already lining up 2024 for the return of trump. 

 

^ Thank you 4 Winds. I've been called worse. It's the "old" part that stings, a little. 

It's just that when I was six, I wondered what Jackie Kennedy looked like half naked...and I put that thought away for 50 some years. A half a century later, I just bang some keys on this new fangled typewriter and, presto -- pictures of the First Lady flashing her tits all over the screen, looking like she wants to fuck James Bond. Who would have ever thought that would come to pass?

Hopefully, I'll get a chance to miss her.

PS - Posting pics of Nancy Reagan or Barbara Bush would be pervy.  I assure you (hey, what's that?) that (hey, whatya doing with that?) my carnal desires are (hey! get that aw....oh, ...oooooh) quite mundane.

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It will never cease to amaze me that a mail order whore is our First Lady. 

I get a kick out of the lens you view the world through, ogkb. More people voted for a neolib than have voted for any other president, in a race with the highest percent turnout since 1900. I'm not sure how you see that as a rejection.

all that money pelosi and schumer raised for those failed neolib senate races. hilarious. horrible leadership and they should both step down. 

dem socialists won 26 of 30 races tho. 

as i said, the left's policies are the most popular in the country. 

yeah and bernie would have gotten 100m votes and this would have been over yesterday. 

laugh all you want. 

just 72hrs ago people like thod thought biden was gonna roll trump and take the senate -- in fact, the complete opposite happened and biden is barley limping to victory. i'd call that quite sad, since the vote blue no matter who suckers were saying this election is democracy vs. fascism. americans must like both equally abouts? lol. 

it's fitting you don't see how the neolibs were rejected. 


>>> More people voted for a neolib than have voted for any other president, in a race with the highest percent turnout since 1900.<<<

 

and a fuck ton of bernie voters did the right thing and voted biden

 

>>as i said, the left's policies are the most popular in the country. 

Second most, behind Trump.

>>dem socialists won 26 of 30 races tho

This is fantastic news, and progress. As I've been saying all along, the change needs to happen locally and at state levels before it becomes viable on the national scene.

>>yeah and bernie would have gotten 100m votes

There's no way to know that.


^^^ too be clear dipshit who didn't vote.

rolled was a biden win

 

you chose to not have a voice and are gonna wave a shamey finger at me?

 

god you're fuckin' dumb

 

 

 

<neoliberalism was rejected, straight up.>

hey Pyramid,

I stay out of the whole Bernie thing, and maybe I missed it, but I'm wondering what your definition of neo-liberalism is? and how does it differ from old liberalism? And when do you date the distinction? 1960 (Kennedy)? 1976 (Carter)? 1992 (Clinton)? 2008 (Obama)?

I see neo-this and neo-that batted around like it's some kind of slur... so please explain what you are so whiny about...what's bothering you about "new?" Are we all supposed to live under the political philosophy of the 18th century forever?

Here's some old liberalism.... sounds a little like conservative New World Order, huh?  What's up with that?

"Robertson’s friend and fellow Scot Adam Smith used “liberal” in a similar sense in The Wealth of Nations, published in 1776. If all nations, Smith says, were to follow “the liberal system of free exportation and free importation,” then they would be like one great cosmopolitan empire, and famines would be prevented. Then he repeats the phrase: “But very few countries have entirely adopted this liberal system.” 

Smith’s “liberal system” was not concerned solely with international trade. He used “liberal” to describe application of the same principles to domestic policy issues. Smith was a great opponent of restrictions in the labor market, favoring freedom of contract, and wished to see labor markets “resting on such liberal principles.” Elsewhere, Smith draws an important contrast between regulating “the industry and commerce of a great country … upon the same model as the departments of a publick office”—that is, to direct the economy as though it were an organization—versus “allowing every man to pursue his own interest his own way, upon the liberal plan of equality, liberty and justice.” In drawing such a contrast, Smith again is signaling the label “liberal” for the latter, which he favors.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/02/the-origin-of-liber...

>>it's fitting you don't see how the neolibs were rejected. 

Editorializing vs fact

The results can be viewed any number of ways, and each has some validity. To you it's black and white. 

 

lol thod.

don't worry man, your covid anxiety will lessen once biden/harris cut more stimulus checks to wall st and the airliners. 

sucker. 

 no it isn't, bk. 

just like its fact the latino vote didn't show up for biden. partly why there is no announced winner yet. horrible (lack of) campaigning on biden's part. 

you were yelling yesterday i was making that up. 

alan that's been answered countless times here. 

go look for the answer man, i know you can find it. 

>>>a republican senate and biden presidency is hilarious.

Yesterday I was thinking the same but after some thought and research, possibly a renewed hope in humanity, we might be surprised that some decency may once again come back to Capitol Hill. 

 

“You’ve been a real friend, you’ve been a trusted partner, and it’s been an honor to serve with you,” McConnell told Biden from the Senate floor on Dec. 7, 2016, as the latter was serving his final weeks as vice president. “We’re all going to miss you.”

McConnell and Biden worked together during then-President Barack Obama's tenure to bridge the divide between the Democrat-controlled White House and the congressional Republican leadership team.

For example, in 2010, after Republicans took control of the House of Representatives in the midterm elections, the two reached an agreement to extend Bush-era tax cuts for an additional two years until after the 2012 elections.

Following this deal, McConnell invited Biden to the University of Louisville's McConnell Center, where the vice president said: "You want to see whether a Republican and Democrat really like each other. Well, I’m here to tell you we do."

And in 2015, McConnell renamed a portion of a medical research bill after Biden's son Beau, who died that year due to brain cancer. McConnell was the only Senate Republican to travel to Wilmington, Delaware, for Beau Biden’s funeral.

 

We can all hope that the 25 year Senate working relationship between Mc Connell and Biden will transcend the shit show.

 

 

 

 

I didn't yell yesterday, and it's not fact. In some districts Biden did worse with Latinos than did Clinton. In many others he did better. You can't pick and choose facts to back a faulty hypothesis.

You make these grand, sweeping statements that simply aren't true. This is a huge nation with thousands of voting districts. The Latinix population is extremely diverse. You boil it down to one district, in TX, with 8,000 voters.

^^  <<<>>>

For example, in 2010, after Republicans took control of the House of Representatives in the midterm elections, the two reached an agreement to extend Bush-era tax cuts for an additional two years until after the 2012 elections.

Following this deal, McConnell invited Biden to the University of Louisville's McConnell Center, where the vice president said: "You want to see whether a Republican and Democrat really like each other. Well, I’m here to tell you we do."

And in 2015, McConnell renamed a portion of a medical research bill after Biden's son Beau, who died that year due to brain cancer. McConnell was the only Senate Republican to travel to Wilmington, Delaware, for Beau Biden’s funeral.

<<<>>>>

hard to tell if you're being serious, here? 

 

bk, starr country texas, most hispanic in country and extremely poor, biden only won by 5, clinton won by 60. obama won by 73. 

biden won by 5.....is this not a crisis?

FL? 

biden didn't consider latinos as a path to victory. 

 

My point being, your political sentiments may be worthwhile, but your undefined stereotyped labels are useless. You sound like a neo-Phil Zone version of Flyen Bryen.

^ just b/c you don't understand it? haha ok. 

 

 

>You can't pick and choose facts to back a faulty hypothesis.<

 

Why should he stop now?

 

I could just as easily argue that many Latinos didn't vote for Biden because they believe him to be a socialist. I know several Cuban folks and Brazilian folks who told me as much.  

 

 

>just b/c you don't understand<

 

People understand your point of view, many disagree. 

>>I could just as easily argue that many Latinos didn't vote for Biden because they believe him to be a socialist.

That's a true statement, and it was exemplified in Miami-Dade. Trump blitzed the Spanish media with the Socialist/Communist message, aimed at Cuban and Venezuelans. Many of them bought it.

Ogkb, there were 2 people in the race. The closeness has as much to do with Trump's popularity as it does anything else. The guy knows how to mobilize voters.

Biden also does. I know it pisses you off that he didn't go more left, but that was a smart political move. He won the nomination because he got the Black vote, which is largely in the center. If he wins this election it will be because he mobilized the Black, center voters.

Ok. I get it. you guys just like to bicker. I appreciate that. That's what old guys are best at. Here's what you guys look like on the Black Screen:

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Bicker? Not me. I'm too depressed.

I am so damn depressed I can't even eat expensive pizzas - which are not as great as tacos or fried chicken.

Thankfully cannabis still helps.

 

>>> don't worry man, your covid anxiety will lessen once biden/harris cut more stimulus checks to wall st and the airliners. <<<
 

you got people that voted to get control of covid

you got people that don't care about covid and voted trump

 

and you did nothing.

 

100k + reported positive in a single day yesterday

but it won't come near your lil incel bubble will it?


smh


 

thod still melting all over the place. 

have you checked your heart rate or blood pressure today? 

def sucks living in trump country and disgusting covid country, at the same time? 

please, tell us. 



i'm good where I live 

you're just that lil philly pussy that got bounced to vt.

 

 

>>> thod still melting all over the place. <<<

 

.07 if you need to know

 

sorry man. you're running at about a 3.89 right now. 

for no reason. 

calm down. covid will be gone end of january. 


end of Jan.?

 

enlighten us...

 

 

 

I do appreciate the passion of your discourse. At least you guys are engaged and not off in a corner playing video games. Hats off to Vermonters with opinions. They like to express themselves up there to keep warm.

Like my grandpa used to say... "Politics is like sex in a way... without a little friction, you wouldn't feel a thing."

Thod still uses sexist pejoratives.

 

>covid will be gone end of january<

 

Promoting Qanon lies now?

 

Or are you mocking Biden because he has a plan to try to limit the spread of the virus?

We can all hope that the 25 year Senate working relationship between Mc Connell and Biden will transcend the shit show.

Yes, I am serious. 

I have faith in humanity, where would the world be if we didn't?

 

>>>"Covid will be gone end of January"

Really Heat? Please show us the facts.

France in partial lockdown, Spain in partial lockdown, Italy in partial lockdown. The list goes on and on. Just a quick reminder the USA isn't the only country in the world (even though some believe it is)

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladviso...

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Alan, we are sharing ideas, not bickering. I'd have to read his shit and he mine for us to really bicker. What you are witnessing is the sound of one hand clapping.

Slacker -- good morning...

As our resident Latinx, can you provide an explanation about the political leanings of all the 59 million-some Hispanics living in the US (18 % of the population)? It may be helpful to the lilly white snowbunnies among us.

Re the recent voting.....I'm currently running with the "Latino men like big trucks" theory -- the macho thing. What do you think?

 

>>> covid will be gone end of january <<<

 

really?

 

you sure about that Q-heat?

 

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I enjoy reading your stuff (thought I admit to skimming it when it gets to "if Bernie..."  and "neo neo neo" as no one usually looks at the historical context, which I think is enlightening).

You guys remind me of a bunch of old Colonists in the late 1700s arguing politics around a table of mead in some snowbound tavern. Keep up the good work. It's patriotic. 

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>>Q-heat

Second laugh of the day. Thanks!


 

Q-heat

here's france

fuckin' france bro

 

let me know if you need some help with the math on the stats provided.

 

so, you were saying end of jan?

 

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Melting?

 

heater, the heat was just way too much for you 

take a vacation 

you are just a melted pool of jumbled false reality and beyond bitterness

 you out- Bryen  Bryen with your lack of logic and delusions

you are the singular undisputed meltdown king

your little leige timpy is pretty impressively lost clueless  and bitter as well

thanks for the laughs 


>>> Second laugh of the day. Thanks! <<<

 

thank you merri, for your time and energy spent while braving the elements

to help put this shitshow on track.

 

NC pride

 

 

it was a joke, wow. upright are we? 

biden will fix everything! according to thod. covid is raging, no shit. we're setting records left and right. 

your efforts to paint me as some deranged trump supporter are cute. that's all you have? 

 

<<<>>>For example, in 2010, after Republicans took control of the House of Representatives in the midterm elections, the two reached an agreement to extend Bush-era tax cuts for an additional two years until after the 2012 elections.

 

this is the funniest and by far the most fucking stupid thing posted in this thread. 

really really fucking stupid. sad stupid. smash my head against the wall stupid. 

so much so, i thought it was a joke. 

wow. 

Pizza my never lie, but pizza makers are known to stretch the dough a little too much.

Let's be serious for a moment.. Is it even conceivable to make a good gluten-free pizza or is it simply impossible?

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^not sure. never ate a gluten free pizza or attempted to make one. 

 

 

>>> it was a joke, wow. upright uptight are we? <<<


sure thing buddy, smh


 

* keep arguing anything but covid

 

>this is the funniest and by far the most fucking stupid thing posted in this thread.<

Thanks a lot Heat.... all my hard work for naught (sad smiley face). I'm jealous. 

I'm going to have to up my game. (Maybe I can find a pic of a fly landing on the Vice Presidents' head and sitting there for 2 minutes while he's on national tv having the biggest public moment of his term. Nah... no one would believe it.)

depheater'd....do you have any friends?

I am looking forward to all of the mea culpas from the BBros.

ned you'll be wondering why there's a neofascist in the office in 2024. 

 

^ cuz, you'll vote for that one too?

 

I guess it depends on what Biden/Harris and Congress get done. If there's some actual progress on health care, infrastucture, covid, I don't see Don Jr. or Ivanka getting a sniff.

 

By the way...you have been wrong about everything this cycle, and we centrist, neolib corporatists have been right. It's a fact.

<never ate a gluten free pizza or attempted to make one. >

My god man, are you serious? Aren't you in Burlington or somewhere?  Next you'll be telling me you don't source local organic ingredients from the nearby Cruchy Girl Farm.

Please spend some time doing the necessary research and get back to me. Thanks for your help, in advance. 

i didn't vote for frump, thod. 

your neoliberal ideology is what gave us trump, and it will give us another one if nothing changes. 

i know you don't understand that b/c you're a little bitch ass stalker boy. 

alan, bread has gluten. sorry to break it to yas. 

It's called "compromise" Q-Heat

That is what we pay our elected officials to do. While we might not like the decision, life is just not black and white. Most of us fall into the gray area. You can thank the Tea Party of 2009 for reversing the norms of reaching across the aisle to find the common ground that benefits the majority of American people.

good morning, are we now living in a cohesive society or has the talibanization started?

compromise to extend tax cuts for the elite? that's laughable and why the dems always fail. 

trashyweather. see i can play too. 

>>>your neoliberal ideology is what gave us trump, and it will give us another one if nothing changes. 

No. You can thank the Tea Party of 2009 for delivering Trump. They made it the norm to stop progress, the Senate took it to the next level and Trump just topped the cake with icing.

Buggy Whip Pizza lol

Excuse me?

Trashyweather?

Well, thanks for showing how immature you are.

 

obama campaigning as a progressive then abandoning everything progressive had nothing to do w/ it? 

lol. 

now you want biden to work w/ the republicans that shit all over your hope and dreams the last 4 years? 

that literally made liberals cry tears of rage? 

neolibs be wild. this is why the duopoly must be broken -- the people will never have representation in DC. 

excuse me? 

you called me a q-anon supporter. 

so i came up w/ a stupid name for you like you did for me. 

see how that works, trashyweather? 


>>> i know you don't understand that b/c you're a little bitch ass stalker boy. <<<

im more than that, believe me

 

now simmer down

4.38

 

remember to quarantine when come up to clean vermont, thod. 

we don't need you fucking our shit up w/ your trump country bs. 

Yep. I'm the one that came up with that. Ha ha, not true once again.

No, you just singled me out because I am an educated woman that actually does something to support our democracy.

 

yeah i hate women lol. 

you're a mess. 

rrg and 6 any minute now....

pretty much the pundits i have seen have said as much as pyramid.

its cute they still want to "reach across the aisle".

reach around more like it.

the dem party as a whole is responsible for the results nationwide. they should be trouncing repubs but not. golly kids, why's that?

 

careful, turtle. 

speaking facts will get you called a q-anon supporter and woman hater. 

ned def has the best nickname for me. depheater'd is hilarious. 

 

I apologize for repeating a name someone else coined. I thought it was funny since you seem to not have the ability to comprehend certain facts. ie Covid. Very similar to other factions of our society. It obviously bothers you and I wont do it again. I'm sorry.

See how easy that was.

 

 

>> its cute they still want to "reach across the aisle". <<

I think most Americans would prefer our elected officials to work together to actually function. You know, do their job. We all want 90% of the same stuff...fix the pot hole, deliver mail on time, build new infrastructure...

what covid facts can't i comprehend, merri? 

ned, you forgot healthcare. 

PyramidHeat

I'm not going to play into your game. People can read your other posts. Thank you for calling me Merri and have a nice day


>>> remember to quarantine when come up to clean vermont, thod. 

we don't need you fucking our shit up w/ your trump country bs. <<<

 

4.4

 

You missed this one up there ^

"....I guess it depends on what Biden/Harris and Congress get done. If there's some actual progress on health care, infrastucture, covid, I don't see Don Jr. or Ivanka getting a sniff.

By the way...you have been wrong about everything this cycle, and we centrist, neolib corporatists have been right. It's a fact."

LOL wrong again. Are you and timpy members of the Wrong-of-the-Month club?

 

 

no game, merri. 

you posted i can't comprehend certain covid facts. what's that mean? 

that i joked  biden will rid us of covid by january? strange. 

 

>>they should be trouncing repubs but not. golly kids, why's that?

Are you looking for the one answer that fits your faulty hypothesis, or the myriad of real reasons, almost all of which don't back your hypothesis?

Biden may win Georgia. He's close in NC. He made TX a race. Those are some massive and impressive gains. Before saying that he did nothing, you should maybe look at those numbers.

If you think that all those tens of millions (or even 1,000) voted for Trump because Biden is a neoliberal, I just don't know how to respond.

Meanwhile, Turts, you voted for Biden, in a state where you could have voted your conscience. That makes you no better than the millions who did the same thing.

ned, the aca should be replaced w/ m4a. 

it'll be ok man, you can still drive your audi. 

>the dem party as a whole is responsible for the results nationwide. they should be trouncing repubs but not. golly kids, why's that?
 

Let's start with the GOP  voter suppression and gerrymandering. Next up,  around 30 percent of eligible voters don't participate in the election or stayed home because their dream candidate wasn't on the ballot. (Insert BernieBros here). And throw in how the GOP attract fearful and racist folks, 'America first' draws in  people  to support authoritarian leaders.  sprinkle in the religious fools who hear 'abortion rights' and uneducated folks who hear 'socialism' and vote against their own interests.   

 

 

Biden still got more votes than Trump, and will win this. Of course, we might have to drag Trump out of the White House when he fails to concede. 

heater...I'm self-employed. I'm all for a public option....hell, I need one.

<<<>>>Those are some massive and impressive gains. Before saying that he did nothing, you should maybe look at those numbers.

that's not b/c of biden. 

A win is a win. It doesn't mean any less because it wasn't a trouncing.

So much piss and vinegar. lol

Thod making a strong push this morning.  Best day to you sir. 

>>that's not b/c of biden. 

Please, enlighten us. The guy got all those votes, and it's not because of him?

C'mon, man. Stop the malarkey!

He's moving the goal posts to fit his narrative 

 

 

and yes, I'm lowering my expectations about taking the Senate, but firing Trump feels great

 

You'd think even the  'never Biden' folks would be celebrating Trump's loss.. unless they actually like the turd. 

Since you responded with an honest question, I will respond.

Biden cant do anything until Jan 21st since Trump is still president. There is no way anyone can "rid us of the Covid" in 11 days or as you said by the end of January. 

Again, I apologize if your Covid statement was a joke. The virus is not funny and the whole world is suffering medically, emotionally and some of us financially. The USA could be at 400,000 deaths by then. My parents could be part of that statistic. 

 

Maybe put a winky emoji at the end of your joke sentences and it wont be as easily misconstrued. (and honestly, that was not a sarcastic snark at you!)
 

I'd like to interrupt this with a little anecdote:

Yesterday I was speaking to my cousin in Florida. She said, "If you ask me, this COVID thing is nothing. It hasn't changed my life."

She seems to have forgot that it put her father in the hospital for a month, back in April, then another 2 months in a rehab facility.

I explained to her that if I leave Vermont I have to quarantine for 2 weeks when I get back. "No you don't, it's not like they are enforcing it. That's a bullshit rule."

And this, kids, is why the curve is no longer being flattened!

thod are you reading this haha 

do it right man! 

Kara Swisher the tech reporter has a lot of Trump supporters in her family. She related a story where one of them twisted a story that she wrote so that it supported Trump. When she explained that the story she wrote didn't support Trump the person said well that's your opinion. 

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It's hard to viva on the phone...

ned, potholes mostly filled locally. What you all centrist don't get is the other side is done playing nice and trying to get things done. They don't care about shit but their agenda and worldview. Those days are done and unless they stop acting like feckless pussies, they will continue to struggle with the electorate.

bk, what is my faulty hypothesis? The dems most likely still will not control the senate. If you can't see why, stop acting like your shit doesn't stink.

I voted for the much lesser of 2 evils. I did it to help the symbolic popular vote. I felt it was important as a statement against overt fascism. I could have written in Bernie as I did last time. What I did doesn't matter so go fuck yourself im rubber, you're glue guy.

Your efforts to paint me as some deranged trump supporter are cute. that's all you have? <<<<
 

You're a deranged Bernie supporter.  Bernie lost.  He had the common sense to throw his support to Biden.  You're just pissing in the wind.

Cool thread.

I noticed this way up there.    >>>>>hand spanking

 

That would be a clap.

And this, kids, is why the curve is no longer being flattened!

 

That and the Covidiots who wear their mask ..........

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

on their chin.

Derp.


>>> thod are you reading this haha 

do it right man! <<<

 

if you paid any attention, other than you're own addled shit...

 

i'm golden

 

I'm not the one with buyer's remorse, Turts. I called you out on your false statement. All you can say is, "If you don't see it...fuck you." I don't see it. Lay out some facts and data to back your opinion. You can't because it's not there. I will give you credit, though, at least you're not cherry picking data points to back it.

So tell us, Turts, in words, why is it that you think that the Republicans didn't get trounced? You asked the question, so you answer.

Now Brian, we all know he doesn't like being called Turts.

lol Right, turtle? biden didn't get all those votes because people wanted to vote for him. It was him or the dumpster fire clown. He's less disgusting than trumpo, but so is a pile of shit. In four years we'll be stuck in the same lesser of two evils hustle, and on and on.

It's the way things work in Washington, Dise.  It's not like much has changed in 244 years.  The elites in power have their issues served.  We live in a political world, and that's not going to change any time soon.  At least we can have a leader who embraces a more civil tone and doesn't make us a pariah on the world stage.

Buyers remorse? False statements?

Sorry at dr.'s

be back in a bit

 

<alan, bread has gluten. sorry to break it to yas. >

dude... sorry to break it to ya with you being a chef and all... but not all bread, or pizza dough, is made with gluten-based flour.

"Most people think of flour in terms of wheat flour. When in fact, flour can be ground from a variety of nuts and seeds. Some types of flours available are: amaranth, arrowroot, barley, buckwheat, chickpea, corn, kamut, nuts, oats, potato, quinoa, rice, rye, soy, spelt, tapioca, teff, wheat, and vegetables."

Now I'm not saying it's traditional or even good, but the Greeks -- who are credited with first topping flatbreads with cheese and oil and veggies and stuff --  probably baked with a variety of grains besides wheat flour. Barley (another grain with gluten) was big back then. The Romans (Italians), because they traveled everywhere, also baked with different ingredients.

>>>In four years we'll be stuck in the same lesser of two evils hustle, and on and on

Who knows Dise. Biden is a one term Pres. Not many people (beside RBG!! heart) can work like dog when they are in their 80's.We will have to watch what Harris does during the next 4 years and her platform. Maybe next time, the Republicans will actually release a national platform plan for the 2024 administration. This year we got zilch from them. 

 

The countries that are actually trying to do better financially, fighting the virus and for more human rights, education and healthcare are lead by women. 

 

Finland's Prime Minister Sanna Marin,

Bolivia's interim President Jeanine Anez

Belgium's Prime Minister Sophie Wilmes

Denmark's Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen

Slovakia's President Zuzana Caputova

Georgia's President Salome Zurabishvili

Ethiopia's President Sahle-Work Zewde

Barbados' Prime Minister Mia Mottley

Trinidad and Tobago's President Paula-Mae Weekes

Iceland's Prime Minister Katrin Jakobsdottir

New Zealand's Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern

Singapore's President Halimah Yacob

Serbia's Prime Minister Ana Brnabic

Estonia's President Kersti Kaljulaid

Taiwan's President Tsai Ing-wen

Nepal's President Bidhya Bhandari

Namibia's Prime Minister Saara Kuugongelwa Amadhila

Norway's Prime Minister Erna Solberg

Bangladesh's Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina

Germany's Chancellor Angela Merkel

 

https://www.reuters.com/news/picture/women-leaders-of-the-world-idUSRTX6...

FRI MAR 6, 2020

Alan, have you tasted gluten-free bread? I'd rather just not eat bread if that's my only choice. Yuck.

 

I've tried every single gluten-free pizza I could get my hands on. Dozens. Probably worked another half dozen different recipes at home and tried all the dairy free cheeses too. 

Years of personal research informs me there are things you can replace, and others you cannot. 

 

First new reporting out of Nevada in over 24 hours. 

Now at 76% reporting (compared to 75% all day yesterday) and Biden's lead has grown from 8,000 to over 11,000.   If Biden takes Nevada, its over.

Canyon Bakehouse makes pretty good gluten free bread. The Hawaiian bread is really good. However, all that tapioca flour is fattening as shit, and sits in my gut!

I was watching Diners, Dives and Drive-ins a few weeks ago, and that Guy dude had a gluten free pizza that he said was one of the best pies he's ever had. I haven't had a good one.

NBC is reporting Nevada as 88% of the vote counted with Biden with a 9000+ vote lead.  The fat lady is waiting in the wings.

Years of personal research informs me there are things you can replace, and others you cannot. 

 

I tried Trader Joe's cauliflower pizza crust a couple weeks ago. It was not good.

>>>> If Biden takes Nevada, it's over.

I've read AZ is more razor-thin than Nevada.   This is going to be an epic shit show moving forward assuming Biden wins.   

It's disturbing how many people support a racist. ".....What people of color have long understood should be clear to everyone now. Donald Trump is not an aberration, he's a mirror. And that ugliness we see in him is America's" - D. Johnson

 

I think the az call that fox made is part of a bigger trick

the repubs didn't get trounced because the dem party coddles the corporate class and has shunned the common man. they mostly offer nothing of substance or structural change because they at the top of the party covet the corps and wall st. yes i know ironic, because the full on bj's the repubs give them as well even though their constituency is negatively affected, they get placated by god, guns and "taxes".

i mean i can go on, or pull up quotes that agree with me if you want but you can do it pal.

the npr loafer set with names like Giles, are another factor that helps alienate the general public.

>>>I think the az call that fox made is part of a bigger trick

Yes! 

 

 

Ken, was it you that had the bubbly in the cellar since election night 2016?

I bought a relatively cheap bottle from Saint-Hilaire. From the label it was created by the Benedictine monks of the Abbey of Saint-Hilaire over 450 years ago. I'm not religious but since most of the world is watching us and 80% of people polled in Europe have a negative view of Americans I thought having the Monks bless my toasting juice after the election couldn't hurt. lol.

 

I agree, Turts, that's a part of the reason. The other part is that there are a ton of shitheads in all those red states and counties, and they love Tump. The full blame can't be solely on the DNC. Over 70 million cast votes for that piece of shit.

If you're going to call me "guy" and "pal," I'm going to call you "chief" and "boss."

Yes, we still have a bottle of bubbly that we didn't open on election night in 2016.   Hoping you can open your special bottle soon. 

But sounds like we might have to wait a little bit longer.  Just heard that Nevada election officials said that they won't release another big batch of results until tomorrow and the counting may last until Nov. 12.

Over 72 million voted for Biden. In any other election that would have been a blowout, and it would have had a huge impact on all those down-ballot races. But then Trump somehow got almost 69 million to vote for his sorry ass.

>>> I have faith in humanity, where would the world be if we didn't? <<<

This.

I have faith we will pop those babies soon!

I just saw the press conference regarding Nevada Ken. NC is in the same situation. Mail in's and cured ballots can be counted until Nov 12th. Good for getting the numbers right but it's making my anxiety difficult to control! 

 

Hi Judit! ((((waving)))

only a truly shithole country would have 70 million people vote for that guy. 

>If you're going to call me "guy" and "pal," I'm going to call you "chief" and "boss."<<

fair enough sport 

 

:)

 

and yeah, i'm sad there are a lot of uneducated racist shitheads, seemingly everywhere....

Just my thoughts. November is finally here. I have seen a lot of hate spewed in recent months about a man who is a constant winner and overachiever, and that's what the people who support him like about him. Yes, he's been caught in lies and twisted the truth a little but he's still out there proving his haters wrong time after time. Some people are jealous of someone who is successful, powerful, and has a lot of money. Throw in a hot foreign model at his side and they hate him even more. You may not have wanted him in his role, but he's there now and there's nothing you can do about it. I know it’s possibly going to get worse over the next several days, but like him or not, Tom Brady is really turning things around in Tampa.

>>fair enough sport 

Check mate! Damn you!

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Which Amendment protects Beer & BBQ?

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Esper Resignation?

Let the Transition Jam begin...

Trump>Mind Left Body Jam>Biden

I saw video of BBQ guy in the pic above.

It was as if a character had busted out of some Netflix show I've never seen.

I saw that video too. 

He reminded me of a older guy who used to hang out in the parking lot at my high school during lunch break, presumably selling shitty cocaine to jocks and buying wine coolers for the cheerleaders.

Just pulled it up on Twitter. Some of the replies are priceless

 

~ Carol in AZ ~ "I'm getting much to much enjoyment out of watching the MAGA meltdown. Does that make me a bad person?"

 

Lol. No it doesn't. Just join in with the 72 million of us laughing

 

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slow death by a million cuts

 

I hope that shit hurts

 

Merri, we should be fair. Jeff Tiedrich has been melting down since 2016. Granted his melts are entertaining af. 

 

https://twitter.com/itsJeffTiedrich?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Ese...

so, instead of countering bs and standing up to attack ads....they wait and attack the progressive wing of the party

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/524690-democrats-post-election-family...

 

as was pointed out, FLORIDA passed a $15 min wage bill by 60%...yes, even in Fl...

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/524503-centrist-democrats-talk-leader...

by the way, "centrist" is a term not a derogatory put down initiated by some russian bot farm like the manufactured "bernie bro" which is at this point, offensive.

I felt compelled to find out what was being said on Faux News.

I know, I know.

You kick yourself afterwards, just like buying a gallon of ice cream when you're suppose to be dropping a few pounds.

I shit you not. It wasn't 3 minutes and one of the commentators said and I quote

"They should get Hunter Biden to be a poll watcher, He's great"

 

Wow. I typed this up and second guessed if I should post it. Made some snacks and a glass of wine.

 

Then I just HAD to go back to Faux because, you know, It couldn't really be that much of a train wreck right? (Actually, Nicolle Wallace went to a commercial) :)

HOLY SHIT. Less than 2 minutes in and they did a true story about a paddle boarder off the California coast that was swallowed and spit out by a whale! Awesome video!

Then the same commentator as before said something snarky like

They won't be boating there soon. Biden won't let them in

 

Really? So much negativity and misinformation. It must be exhausting.

 

  


republicans silent on everything

 

meanwhile....

 

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did we ever hear whether or not p heater voted? 

>>> felt compelled to find out what was being said on Faux News.

Check out the comments section on the Fox News website.

Speaking of Fox, its Guy Fawkes Night (kinda of like a British mix of Halloween and Fourth of July) and I was hoping to shoot off some celebratory fireworks tonight, but starting look like I will have to wait until tomorrow night. 

Watching Trump right now is witnessing the ramblings of a complete and utter loser.

MG, I love you, but the fact that biden gets along with the worst piece of shit senator in at least our lifetime is not re-assuring to me. Bitch has been almost as detrimental to our"democracy" as the cheater in chief. Fuck him with a huge telephone pole.

And I agree with everything Turts has said today. (I can call him Turts). 

biden did not inspire all those votes he got.  Like I have said many times, this election is not about biden. It is all about chump. 

And Democracy Now claims "The Media Has It Wrong. Record Latinx Turnout Helped Biden. White Voters Failed Dems."  Now in Dade county that was not the case. Idiots from Cuba and south America fell  for the socialist/communist bullshit.  

I really think that the education system in this country has failed miserably.  Too many dumbfucks out there.

People need to understand that socialism is a good thing for them. And it is not Communism. Period.  Dumbfucks.

biden will be better that chump, that is a given. But by how much?  We will see how many of chumps executive orders he overturns in the first weeks he is in office.   And if he really is for fracking, then fuck him for that.   This is of course contingent on chump not being allowed to steal this election. Something I am not overly confident about. 

And fuck you to everyone that uses Bernie Bros to show their own ignorance.  Just keep voting against your best interests. Dumbfucks.

 

Bernie Bros who didn't heed the call to vote for Biden are dumb fucks. And yeah, fuck me. Whatever.
Most Bernie supporters aren't Bros, btw. Hell, I voted for Bernie in the primaries. He would have never beaten Trump.

 

It does appear that Biden will win, and Trump will need to be dragged out, kicking and screaming  

Biden is not going to get a pass just because he replaced Trump.   

In 2002, then Senator Joe Biden introduced the Reducing Americans’ Vulnerability to Ecstasy Act, or the RAVE Act. The original RAVE Act did not receive sufficient support from lawmakers, but a substantially similar law, the Illicit Drug Anti-Proliferation Act, still colloquially referred to as the RAVE Act and also sponsored by Biden, was passed as an attachment to the AMBER Alert Bill in 2003.

“If I were governor of my state or the mayor of my town, I would be passing new ordinances relating to stiff criminal penalties for anyone who holds a rave, the promoter, the guy who owns the building. I would put the son of a gun in jail. I would change the law,” said Biden during a 2001 Senate hearing. “There’s no doubt about where these raves are, in the middle of the desert. Arrest the promoter. Find a rationale unrelated to drugs."

https://www.lucid.news/biden-rave-act-impede-risk-reduction/

Lol, you're worried about Raves while we're dealing with a Constitutional crisis and a fuckin pandemic  ?! 

Mark. I love you...

 But your ramblings are a bit lost in space 

biden was worth voting for, and I did

we will move towards the left and be relatively   stable 

donald Putin is kicked out now

let the healing begin 

 

 

 

From what I understand, fracking in 2020 was like coal in 2016. Trump was "pro coal" to get the votes, and even the coal industry knew that it was a joke. Biden said he's pro fracking to get votes, but even the fracking industry knows that it means nothing. Fracking has proven to be non cost effective, and it's going to die out, all on its own.

wall st. loves this shit!

no change = prices up~!

and yes, markd can use turts. actually i don't care jd.

 

DEMOCRACY WINS

hate does not win 

>Alan, have you tasted gluten-free bread? I'd rather just not eat bread if that's my only choice. Yuck.<

HA why yes..thanks for asking.....unfortunately I've been stuck with eating it since before Whole Foods had an aisle for it. The secret is to toast it. Ans splurge for the good stuff.

The bagels are a big rip off. Most GF flatbreads and pitas are ok -- also warmed. 

But  good pizza crust is tough. The best I had was wood fired in Nederland, CO.  That's why I asked a real pizza guy.  Too bad he never tried making it, because the customer base would pay the bucks for a really good gluten free pie.

Now back to your regularly scheduled program.

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sorry - that's seizure inducing

Greta Thunberg

So ridiculous. Donald must work on his Anger Management problem, then go to a good old fashioned movie with a friend! Chill Donald, Chill!

I love you too Joel, but I am really sorry that your upbringing does not allow you to see what is really going on.  What exactly was lost in space?

Carry-on.

 

Damn, Mark, that's a low blow. Maybe he's just not a Socialist, and it's intellectual rather than his upbringing.  Believe it or not, quite a lot of very smart people don't think like you.

Maybe if Heater came up with a good $80 gf pie he could afford insurance for his employees.

Then maybe they aren't all that smart BK.

One trait of narcissism is not understanding how everyone does not see everything as clearly as you/I do.

Never been able to shake that. It is all so obvious to me.........

Iran better look out. Biden don't play no malarkey. He might have to go drone some innocent families there. Next four years gonna be a disaster just like the last four years.
 

American politics are a comical process of lies and money movements to mostly rich weapons manufacturing companies and banking investors.
 

The four years after the next four will be worse.

 

Every four years things just get worse and worse no matter who gets elected.

 

This post is a shout out to my dude Lltd.
 

This is a Democratic republic though not a a true democracy. Electoral college bradi. 
 

Hope all you Biden loving old white folks feel more comfortable at least.
 

Ned, what up you candy ass motherfucker? Congratulations man. I know you were Bidens number one fan. He should mail you a tank top that says "I'm Bidens #1 fan". You can rock it around town with some Bobby shorts

 

 

Well, Mark, I have voted Socialist and Green on hundreds of races, from the president all the way down to justice of the peace. I hope that puts me in the upper echelons of wokeness.

Timpane, are you sure that you're not some 85 year old curmudgeon with gout? You are one bitter-assed mofo.

It does Brian.  But many of your posts don't reflect that. 

Carry on.

racket why do you look at my instagram? 

gluten free pizza is like meatless chicken wings. fucking eat real food. 

nancy voted for a candidate in the primary she knew couldn't win the general? that's strange. 

liberals are a confused bunch. 

bk is a corporate apologist. 

lol @ LLTD. 

straight up psychobabble bitch non stop. 

I agree about eating real food, Heat, but some folks like Alan cannot.

So is trump first president to lose popular vote twice? Biden over 4 million now

alan can you eat naturally leavened bread? 

no synthetic yeast. 

< some 85 yr old curmudgeon with gout>>
 

Bk, don't be talking bout your boy Biden like that. 
 

Dude no one cares how you voted dawgggg Do you, old head

 

<< whatever, fuck me >>>>
 

Aint nobody on this site wanna fuck you, Nanc

I'm not an ideologue, Mark. I may not agree with other points of view, or even respect them, but I know I have to live in a world with them. My utopia is another's hell.

< fucking eat real food. >

you think I eat GF because I like it? Or I do it because it's somehow cool? How bout I eat all your real food and shit in your pizza pan?

I hope you're joking or just pissed off today, but if you are serious you're clueless about gut issues. Hope you never have to deal with them. 

I have a lot of chef friends in the restaurant biz and if you ignore customer's dietary restrictions nowadays, you're just losin the money. Not like it's a whole new dish to cook. It's fuckin pizza. How is a artisan pizza shop in hippy dippy Vermont run by a Soup Nazi?

Alan, I have given up on good tasting gluten free pizza crust, I don't think it's possible. I can't eat white flour but whole grain bread is ok. No one makes whole grain crust either. A friend of mine uses Portobello mushroom caps to make mini pizzas. They're good but I wouldn't call it a crust, more like Italian style jumbo stuffed mushrooms. Thinly sliced (lengthwise) grilled eggplant would make a good base, I might have to try that out.

 

This is some funny shit if any of you people need a quick laugh break.  https://twitter.com/i/status/1324367609454878720

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I have heard some folks can process sour dough without problems and I even read some folks can drink Guinness due to their yeast (god knows I drank my share in the past), but I have not experimented. Yet. I need to schedule a free week afterward to deal with any possible after effects.

I sure (used to ) love the sour dough and the Guinness -- they just opened up their first brewery in the US nearby. I wanna go.

WTF's happening in Arizona?

alan you're a funny guy. shit isn't always about money. i don't give a fuck about the gluten free demo. sorry, sport (!) 

try real bread man, make that schedule. 

report back. 

<<>>How bout I eat all your real food and shit in your pizza pan?

i laughed. 

WTF's happening in Arizona?

Californians influx changing the voting, and possibly GF pizza demographic...

Breaking News: Vladimir Putin plans to step down next year amid health concerns, report claims

https://nypost.com/2020/11/05/vladimir-putin-planning-to-step-down-next-...

In other news -- Trump stepping down to open Moscow hotel with new business partner

 

<i laughed.>

Then my job here is done. Good nite.

Biden & Trump now tied in GA?

Georgia (AP source)

 

 

Donald Trump (GOP) ●

49.4%

2,447,223

Joe Biden (Dem)

49.4%

2,445,321

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ooopps..wrong thread.. (But that's a Gluten Free wood fired pizza!)

Probably next update. Ga and Nv get it done.

 

Good one Dise.

 

Heat, really? That's what you got on GF?  What don't you understand?  Really dude I agree with a lot of what you say, but that is fucked up.

Mark - He's probably young and doesn't realize that once you pass a certain age, strange things start to happen to hitherto unnoticed body parts. He'll learn. They all do.

One day in the nursing home he'll be salivating at the opportunity to chug a bottle of lemon flavored Ensure. Just wishing he could have a slice of gluten-free pizza.

Aren't you suppose to call the doc when an election lasts this long?    (asking for a friend)

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I am really sorry that your upbringing does not allow you to see what is really going on.   

hmmm  might you perceive that as insulting?

>>>>>Tiedrich has been melting down since 2016

 

Let's face it - Tiedrich has been melting down since 1990.

^ LLTD  - Bryen's not here

 

(kidding, kidding)

I feel like I ate too many pixie stix.

giddy and sorta sick and feeling like everything is unreal / surreal with queasy feeling of anticipation 

Surf...Maybe even longer than that, lol JTFC

My mom lives in nv and voted for joe. She really wanted me to. She's a senior citizen.

i do and am offended fwiw - my fragile ego.....

my take on my upbringing /  how I was raised includes: a very liberal / radical, culture aware and culture tolerant family and parents  well educated upbringing  amongs intellectuals and working people, with high degree of social and political activism

hatred of republicans values  - not tolerant, yes ( "hatred" of republicans)   

Lots of charity and political activism, yes

 

i do not feel that i sell out my values nor beliefs - and no i-I have never been arrested for demonstrating nor rioting;  but have marched and demonstrated to staid up for my beliefs, and against oppression

i do believe in pushing the needle, as I also believe that compromise is often required ( esp in relationships)

 

2 steps forward, and one step back  is net one step forward!

 now i will go back to your post where i thought that you were a bit off Mark, and likely respond

 

as simple as possible heater - so you are not confused by being  "psychobabbled"  which involves creative expression / you not following or you disagreeing \   I guess is: having BIden elected is democracy heater, and was needed for the health of my country , its's people and  for the world

 

 

No more insulting than "But your ramblings are a bit lost in space"

But if I am wrong about your upbringing, I apologize.  But something is blocking your view.

Penn and Georgia... Wow  so close. If Biden scores the votes tonight, the West coasters get to start the first official Bye Bye Bry CHECKMATE thread  -- I'm jealous.

By the way, how come no Lindsey Graham escort service fetish sex tapes have not surfaced after all these years?  The guy must be a eunuch. What a scumbag.

Depends on how many updates we get tonight.  Ga and Nevada may be done for the night.   We might get something from Pa. and that would do it.  One can only hope.

 

yea mark it more insulting, calm down brother - responses in line below

 

"MG, I love you, but the fact that biden gets along with the worst piece of shit senator in at least our lifetime is not re-assuring to me. Bitch has been almost as detrimental to our"democracy" as the cheater in chief. Fuck him with a huge telephone pole.  YOU  can hate  BITCH MCCONNELL passionately, and TBH I hate him as much as anyone - with zero government functioning with him around  for 4 years- but if BIden can have a relationship where government functions- even just a little, bit - we end up ahead

And I agree with everything Turts has said today. (I can call him Turts).  so can I  - Turts

biden did not inspire all those votes he got.  Like I have said many times, this election is not about biden. It is all about chump. In LLTD's opinion,  joe biden is pretty damn classy and has values / some empathy and empathy - basically he is a human being - MAJOR UPGRADE

And Democracy Now claims "The Media Has It Wrong. Record Latinx Turnout Helped Biden. White Voters Failed Dems."  Now in Dade county that was not the case. Idiots from Cuba and south America fell  for the socialist/communist bullshit.  - Agree, and hard to understand why - but p sold hatred of communicant and socialism so well for so long - he won the dumbing down

I really think that the education system in this country has failed miserably.  Too many dumbfucks out there. SO COMPLETELY TRUE IT IS SAD - and emarrassing to call myself an American

People need to understand that socialism is a good thing for them. And it is not Communism. Period.  Dumbfucks. - a more balance of much more socialism - while balancing w capitalism - with ethics - is required

biden will be better that chump, that is a given. But by how much?  We will see how many of chumps executive orders he overturns in the first weeks he is in office.   And if he really is for fracking, then fuck him for that.   This is of course contingent on chump not being allowed to steal this election. Something I am not overly confident about.  Chump has lost - BIden will be a solid steward - AND WE WILL MOVE A GREAT DEAL  TO PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT

And fuck you to everyone that uses Bernie Bros to show their own ignorance.  Just keep voting against your best interests. Dumbfucks.- Can't follow this one and can't respond -  other than saying that i do think that the Bernie extremest angry victim views expressed on here  so often, with so many insults and with name calling   >> they do get lost quite a bit

 

have a good one brother

>>No more insulting than "But your ramblings are a bit lost in space"

One's about rambling words in a dbmb post and the other is a slam on the essence of what makes a person, their upbringing. There's a huge difference.

Cut the malarkey, Mark.

It's more about what bitch and biden would agree on. Definitely not in our best interests.

I am not completely anti biden. I did not have to vote for him in California, but I did.  Mostly to say fuck you to current cheater in chief.  But I am sure biden is hands down a better human than chump. But he has a bad history. He has not really been our friend.

Overall, seems you agree with most of my lost in space ramblings.

Again, I apologize for the remark. It was uncalled for. But damn, sometimes you really piss me off brother. You need to come visit again and we can commiserate.

 

if the last quarter of this thread was a person

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I piss of many folks, and also at times might please them  and / or are kind  to them

  I call myself a nice asshole tbh

 

yes we do 

 

hell at a DNB show would be OK ????  a man can dream........

georgia - biden down 1805   99% counted  49.4% each as of now

penn - biden down 22, 576 95% counted joe pulling ~ 75 % of mail in ballots

 

go America!!

There's this fat woman next door and I keep hearing "mi mi mi".  Gonna be so relieved if it happens. Looking forward to tomorrow.  

Pa shutting down for the night too. Looking like nothing till tomorrow. I think maybe a couple precincts in Ga still reporting tonight, but not sure.

 

I do think Trump will be kicked out but we have not seen the last of him.  He got about 70,000,000 votes so he is popular. After Biden takes office we will hear him blowing his hole for the next 4 years & if his health holds up he will run in 2024 so we all better start to pony-up for the next elections because the Cult of Trump is not over & if he does not run in 2024 one of his surrogates will.

look at rick santorum's face, literal moments after listening to trumps latest speech live. this is the first shot of him they cut to after they aired the speech live

someone is having some realizations by the looks of things. you know someone is having some serious moments of horrifying self reflection when a lifelong establishment politician cant help but to wear his doubt, fear and regret on his sleeve like this. wow wow wow. he looks like he just watched his mom die.

dude's face stayed like this for a solid 10 seconds while the other lady spoke, he didnt move or change his expression at all, just sat there staring off into nothing...after 10 seconds he managed an obviously forced smile, the kind you give when a close family member dies and someone gives you a meaningless platitude at the funeral, before losing his ability to even fake it and looking back down into the desk.

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It has been interesting watching him I have watched a ton of CNN the last few days

 

Just reported that they arrested a hummer dude  firearm in Pittsburgh.  
Trump needs to be murdered ASAP  

embarrassing baby prick 

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@ 1:36am PST, just received a news alert that.in Georgia, Biden is now up by 917!

 

Up 926. 16 EVs

Philadelphia the birthplace of democracy

 will come through bigly.  
line up the fat lady

the singing will be sweet 

Rep. Will Hurd (R., Texas), who is retiring, criticized the president’s comments.

“A sitting president undermining our political process & questioning the legality of the voices of countless Americans without evidence is not only dangerous & wrong, it undermines the very foundation this nation was built upon.”

All kidding aside, I could have counted more votes by myself than Nevada did in the last 24 hrs

Up 1906 in Georgia 

Live  live predicts Biden will win Pennsylvania 

 by 49876 votes 

Many people are saying that GA doesn't want to be the one to announce.

Maybe they can get Bry to announce it. 


you're about to lose your job

 

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Everybody is waiting for Pa.  He gonna get 306.

 

<<<>>>Heat, really? That's what you got on GF?  What don't you understand?  Really dude I agree with a lot of what you say, but that is fucked up.

what did i say that's fucked up? 

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Biden leads in penn 

+ 5587

there is a god

It's hilarious to watch FOX news basically give a big fuck you to Trump now, as they are basically calling bullshit on all his frivolous lawsuit claims

Although I did see one dipshit put up a "voter fraud and supression" hotline number, which was kind of rich.

500!

Go Joe - you got this.

Biden the first step in Democrats becoming the new Republicans. Nice job Biden!

Thanks for Your Biden Vote Timpy yes

What ever happened to Bill Barr? Anyone seen him lately? I think he got the Covid at that White House event and they are not telling anyone.

Love these quotes...

A senior administration official said: "When Bush had this issue they tapped arguably the pre-eminent statesman of his generation, James Baker, to spearhead their legal and PR efforts, to great effect. ... We rolled out Rudy Giuliani, Corey Lewandowski and Pam Bondi. You can draw your own conclusions."

 

James Addison Baker III, 90, the GOP's master strategist in the 2000 Florida recount, voted for Trump but told the N.Y. Times' Peter Baker:

"We never said don’t count the votes. That’s a very hard decision to defend in a democracy."

oh SNAP!

Word of the day

 

 

 

insurmountable

 

 

you heard it here first

 

 

namaste

 

(id post a YouTube video in there to for authenticity but since no one clicks them any way that spot left intentionally blank)

'Looks like the same people that hate science are also hating math right now...'

Namaste 

Stacey Abrams is such an amazing badass. 

Stacey Abrams is such an amazing awesome badass. 

Live video of Nevada officials giving an update starting shortly: https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/elections/100000007440259/nevada-voting...

 

 

Looks like it's just about to start.

Namaste 

I wonder if "Bryen" is at Cafe Shithead buying drinks for everyone......

Poor fella must be crushed.

https://www.captiongenerator.com/2023632/Trump-Watches-Election-Coverage

 

The dead crew telling bye he can  no longer attend due to being so needy and out of control 

As a person who spent many evening in the last 4 weeks phone banking in PA for the Dems ( i actually 'worked' for my daughter who was a Field Organizer for the Dems in central PA ) i cannot tell you the satisfaction i am feeling these last few days. i admittedly went to bed Tuesday night anxious but something awesome happened to me, i slept nearly 7 straigh hours which is a record lately as i get older.

i often had as many as 90 calls connected in my two hour shifts and id say that i was cursed out and told to fucking die at least 2 - 3 times a night at first...then the debates and the COVID @ the WH happened and the retorts softened. The last few weeks i kept having more and more positive calls and interactions. In the final two weeks we were specifically just doing GOTV push and advising people of their rights / where to / how to / when to mail in and eventually we were making sure peeps in the larger metro areas in PA had proper polling location information. On 11/1 - 2 - 3 we were confirming and pushing GET OUT THE VOTE and making sure people had a ride and had the proper info and knew how to walk in and vote in person after requesting a mail in here in PA.

EVERY MINUTE WAS FUCKING WORTH IT

thank you PA Dems, Thank you Taylor ( my daughter ) and her highly caffeinated twenty something cohorts, and thank you Democracy - we prevailed

Peace

Thank you for phone banking, so important!

When Bernie was in the race I was doing the virtual phone bank effort in different states, one evening a week -- it's a great way to have a positive effect on the process, even from home.

I'm not popping the bubbly yet, though. 

Just read that Biden has booked primetime slot for a statement this evening. 

THANK YOU Mike PA and all the folks who worked their asses off to achieve participatory democracy. Highest vote count ever. You honored those who made the ultimate sacrifice. 

Americans!

Chief of Staff Mark Meadows confirmed to have Covid. He's one of the guys whispering shit in Trump's ear. He's been around everyone without a mask.

I thought Biden's Friday's night speech was very Presidential.

 

I agree, Biden's speech was both very good and presidential,

How does this cuomo clown keep his job? He is almost unwatchable.

 

I never watch any news(haven't for at least 10 yrs) except for the last 3 days(and occasionally during the fires).  It bothers me that these people are so blatantly pro biden. What happened  to "fair and unbiased"? I know fox has been that way for yrs, but did not know it was so strong the other way. 

 

It is obvious to everyone we have a new president-elect, who is going to have the balls to call it first?  I mean AP called Az 2 days ago, and it is the only one that could possibly go red.   Now the question is will enough people bow down to him that he is able to delay indefinitely.

 

 

Thanks Jaz. I have had the AP count page up for 3 days. They are not calling it yet.  Even though like I said, they called Az days ago.

My goto ,Mark. Just reports.

Mostly here:

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Mark D I agree, political news is so biased on both sides that it's all but pointless. I still like npr and pbs news - there's a definite bias there too, but fewer bells and whistles. A less tawdry delivery at least.

Maybe the long drawn out count is a good thing, as long as mango mussolini is freaking out about absentee vote counts he's too occupied to nuke California or Arizona lol. 

LMAO.     I think.

 

This election is so volatile I think the networks are wise to wait a day or two until as many ballots as possible are counted to announce the inevitable. Trump has no legal path forward so no harm in letting the process play out.

editorial journalism has ruined american political discourse...all three major 24 hour news networks shifting to almost entirely editorial journalism was the first domino to fall on americas path towards the fake news conspiracy era. it was bad enough when it was just fox, but with fox it was always obvious...the transformation of cnn and msnbc to editorial programs was slow and insidious, and they never seem to make clear the distinction between their news programs and editorial programs...they all look similar, sound similar, and bleed right into one another...youve got the normal evening news on and then it goes right into a program like rachel maddow or tucker carlson.

even formerly objective standard journalists and newscasters like brian williams and anderson cooper have quietly shifted from simply reporting the news to hosting their own editorial programs. i think often when conservatives bitch about "fake news" and "liberal media", they are referring to these editorial programs, and due to a mixture of their own ignorance and the way these networks present their editorial programs, they dont really know the difference between standard news programs and editorial programs. i think if you asked anderson cooper or rachel maddow if their shows were editorial they would say they is, at least in part...but i think alot of conservatives think these shows are fully intended to be the standard nightly news and dont really realize they are intended to be editorial, and i think a large part of the blame for that, and for the current quagmire of conspiracy and segregated information ecosystems, is placed squarely on people like anderson cooper and rachel maddow and the networks they work for.

fox was always more egregious in its partisan bias, but its bias was widely known to be intentional, and it existed within a tradition of right wing talk radio that most people were familiar with and knew to take with a grain of salt. the slow and quiet transformation of formerly objective news networks and newscasters into biased editorial journalism for the left has been far more damaging despite the levels of bias and misinformation being significantly lower.

im not sure that it will be possible to fully leave the fake news era behind us if people like rachel maddow and tucker carlson are on major tv news networks which claim to be presenting objective journalism in addition to editorial journalism, and not making fully clear where one ends and the other begins. people like maddow would be well suited to something like a mainstream centrist version of the young turks youtube channel/website. there already exists a massive online ecosystem of  alt right media that would accept folks like tucker. 

a common sentiment these days in response to take news is "delete your facebook". thats sage advice for those who are stupid enough to use facebook as a content aggregator...but the other just as crucial side of that coin is "delete cnn, msnbc and fox".

delete rachel maddow, delete tucker carlson.

this election cycle is the first time ive watched mainstream news live in a long, long time, and ive noticed many networks have lead in ads for their shows or network in general claiming to have unbiased, straight up news, so there is obviously a demand they are appealing to via advertising, but i dont think they will appeal to that demand via action without a bipartisan groundswell of disgust and rejection. its been hard for liberals to get on that train because they have been continually repelled by the absolute cringe of the trumpist battle cry of "fake news", but hopefully public opinion will begin to shift on this over the next 4 years under biden.

im sure the major networks will continue their softball adulation for biden for at least the first year or so of his term...if opinion shifts against the 24 hour news networks in a big way, im guessing it will be due to a significant amount of biden voters becoming disillusioned with his administration after months or years of milquetoast establishment politics, and by extension becoming disillusioned with the major news networks pushing his agenda.

^ But if I delete MSNBC I won't be able to stare transfixed at that magical mole on Rachael's neck... sometimes it's there, sometimes it's not..it's mesmerizing. Thankfully Chris Wallace isn't around for this latest debacle. 

 

^now i know why you don't know what a neoliberal is -- b/c you watch their main network transfixed on a neoliberals mole. 

that's funny. 

Will there be a "Neo-Zoner" of the year award this year? The term get bandied around so much. 

 

>you don't know what a neoliberal is -- b/c you watch their main network transfixed on a neoliberals...<

 

You know a huge part of the population believes that maddow and pelosi are on the far left?

 

That perception will likely change dramatically over the next two election cycles, as boomers fade and gen z grows.

ok -- so the "far left" wants m4a, a gnd, ubi, free schooling, and social justice reform. 

this is not radical. 

pelosi and maddow (lol), want none of that  

 

 

I understand, pyramid, but a huge percentage believe that pelosi is a radical leftist. It's like John Dean stated many years ago, when asked about his current political beliefs...

He said he was still a goldwater republican, which put him just left of center in the current political climate. The center has drifted further right since then.

But like I stated, demographic changes will likely shift that center further left over the next two election cycles. 

Bye Bye Bryen. We hardly knew you. Can't say it was nice knowing you. IGNORANT TROLL  PUTZ!!!!

Will there be a "Neo-Zoner" of the year award this year? The term get bandied around so much.

i will nominate mikeW for neo-zoner of the decade considering his inexplicably fervent love of hillary rodham clinton during the 2016 primary and general election. like im sure most zoners voted for her as they should have but i dont know if ive ever seen a woman give a gay dude an erection as turgid and enthusiastic as the one mikew had for hill-dawg

 

^Jr. seems just as enamored with her

 

Additionally, and unfortunately, Mike W didn't join viva.

My ballot status has flipped from "Received" to "Accepted"yes

 

Which, I guess, means my county has certified results.

 

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