He was in high form tonight, Lltd. Making shit up left and right. I, personally, enjoyed donnie's facial expressions, particularli the "lime sucking" schtick. It looked so much like alecx baldwin.
I hope and think that it will be a blue landslide. However, it is so important that everyone vote and vote to end this bad experiment/trip towards the fascist end of the political spectrum. It is not that different from the far end of the left wing of the so called political spectrum. More like a curvy circle than a line or spectrum. Scary, imo, in that regard.
Hate to say it, but from a purely objectively standpoint, Trump did well tonight. Total salesman who dominated the event without being the total lunatic he was last time. Of course, the guy was making up shit left and right, but did so without flinching and with total confidence. By contrast, Biden was stumbling trying to get out real facts and looked unsteady until the last 10 minutes or so. He was on defensive the rest of the night and couldn't believe how he let Trump dominate the discussion and set the agenda.
CNN's Jake Tapper reacts after President Donald Trump took the stage for the final presidential debate of the 2020 election, saying Trump is "running the single most negative, sleazy campaign in American history for a major party candidate."
Chump really turned it around. What a great liar. Does he remind anyone else of Tommy Smothers? "Momma liked you best".
But really, how many folks did not know who they were voting for before the debate? Biden is not really a factor. This election is all about the orange one. It's for or against, and it comes down to what kind of human you are. Period.
Trump did very well. He kept pounding the bullshit and lies. He attacked and attacked with those high value psychological points. He ultimately said absolutely nothing about policy.
Sorry folks, amerika knows a leopard can't change it's spots in one debate. Nice try polishing the turd-rump, but it's ovah. More than half the country's already voted.
Last night’s presidential debate felt much more normal than this year’s first one. The candidates interrupted each other only occasionally rather than constantly. They argued about big policy issues like the coronavirus, foreign policy and more.
But the debate wasn’t normal by the standards of nearly all of American history. It wasn’t normal because one of the nominees — the sitting president — told one lie after another. He did so about the virus, North Korea, China, Russia, climate change, his own health care policy, Joe Biden’s health care policy, Biden’s finances and the immigrant children who were separated from their parents.
I understand you may be tired of hearing about President Trump’s untruths. I’m tired of writing about them. They hardly qualify as surprising anymore.
But it’s impossible to analyze a debate filled with untruths without first acknowledging them. They undermine an event meant to highlight differences between candidates. They undermine democracy. To ignore them is to miss the biggest story: a president trying to construct his own reality.
How are voters supposed to choose between, say, two different health care plans if one candidate makes up stories about both plans?
No previous president has behaved this way. Democrats often accused George W. Bush of lying, and Republicans accused Barack Obama of lying. And both men made questionable statements and statements that later proved untrue. But when they proved untrue, Bush and Obama stopped making the claims. Trump just keeps making them.
Debate analysis
“From a lying perspective, Trump is even worse tonight than in the first debate … an absolute avalanche of lying” — CNN’s Daniel Dale, who’s been probably the most committed Trump fact checker.
“Biden was again imperfect from a fact check perspective. He made at least a few false, misleading, or lacking-in-context claims. Trump was, as usual, a serial liar.” — Dale. (A Times fact check of both candidates is here.)
“Trump was far more disciplined. He landed a few sharp attacks, even as he diverted into some issues that seem more like fodder for the conservative media-sphere.” — The Times’s Lisa Lerer.
“The subjects Trump most wishes to discuss are ones largely disconnected from those that matter most to voters.” — Jane Coaston, Vox.
“This debate probably isn’t going to hurt Senate Republican candidates in a way the first debate did.” — Jessica Taylor, Cook Political Report.
The moderator, NBC’s Kristen Welker, won praise as the best, most commanding moderator of this debate season (and she had the advantage of the candidates being muted for stretches while the other was speaking).
Two post-debate polls both found Biden to be the winner, by 54 percent to 35 percent in CNN’s and 53 percent to 39 percent in YouGov’s.
Key lines
“I take full responsibility, but China brought it here. It’s not my fault,” — Trump, on the virus.
“People are learning to die with it.” — Biden, after Trump said the country was learning to live with the virus.
“Why didn’t you do it [while vice president?] You had eight years with Obama. You know why, Joe? Because you’re all talk and no action,” Trump, on Biden’s criminal-justice plans.
“It’s not about his family or my family. It’s about your family.” — Biden, after an exchange of personal accusations.
“I would transition away from the oil industry, yes … The oil industry pollutes, significantly. It has to be replaced by renewable energy over time.” — Biden.
For more: See The Times’s main story; seven minutes of video highlights; and Times Opinion writers on the night’s best and worst moments.
He lowered the bar so much the first debate that just because he didnt shit in his hand, fling it at the moderator then try and piss on Joes podium, he came off as "composed"
He still lied his ass off, used Qanon codewords/ shorthand and offered no real vision or justification of why he should continue in the job.
>>>He still lied his ass off, used Qanon codewords/ shorthand and offered no real vision or justification of why he should continue in the job
Yes, and I hope the people that are undecided understand that but I am losing faith in humanity and the intelligence of our society. (not sure how anyone could be undecided at this point, but I understand that most people aren't into politics like I am)
Hey Smiley, what are the Qanon codewords? I'm so leery of searching online for conspiracy info.
>>He lowered the bar so much the first debate that just because he didnt shit in his hand, fling it at the moderator then try and piss on Joes podium, he came off as "composed"
And thanks for the laugh of the day!!! So eloquently said I could almost smell the stench of feces.
Yep 4 winds. I just watched Biden's live Covid response press conference and he was awesome! I wish he could have articulated with the same resolve those cohesive thoughts last night.
Strong, communicative and level headed. He actually has a plan to move us through this bullshit. Yes, he was reading the speech from a teleprompter but you could feel his passion, honesty and concern for "us", the little people.
Joe did a good job at the debate. The other guy has no plan and is unable to verbalize what he to do about the covid other than we are rounding the corner.
The Hunter Biden story is a complete load of horse deal.
On the other hand, the China bank account that Trump supposedly closed in 2015 might have legs.
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He was in high form tonight.
He was in high form tonight, Lltd. Making shit up left and right. I, personally, enjoyed donnie's facial expressions, particularli the "lime sucking" schtick. It looked so much like alecx baldwin.
I hope and think that it will be a blue landslide. However, it is so important that everyone vote and vote to end this bad experiment/trip towards the fascist end of the political spectrum. It is not that different from the far end of the left wing of the so called political spectrum. More like a curvy circle than a line or spectrum. Scary, imo, in that regard.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D.
Hate to say it, but from a
Hate to say it, but from a purely objectively standpoint, Trump did well tonight. Total salesman who dominated the event without being the total lunatic he was last time. Of course, the guy was making up shit left and right, but did so without flinching and with total confidence. By contrast, Biden was stumbling trying to get out real facts and looked unsteady until the last 10 minutes or so. He was on defensive the rest of the night and couldn't believe how he let Trump dominate the discussion and set the agenda.
Not a good night.
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My sentiments exactly Ken.
My sentiments exactly Ken.
Going to be a long 12 days.
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Not sure how any dead head
Not sure how any dead head can support that criminal and crackpot.
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Trump did much better this
Trump did much better this time
(the bar was on the ground)
Biden won the debate and bigly Post debate polls did not actually move
Women hate the man with zero empathy
trump dominated the Pinocchio awards again, shocking
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NO longer undecided
NO longer undecided
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NO checkmate in checkers
NO checkmate in checkers
https://apple.news/Ac7cj6I-qSa60hfvbdOIDmg
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You are who you are Donnie
You are who you are Donnie
CNN's Jake Tapper reacts after President Donald Trump took the stage for the final presidential debate of the 2020 election, saying Trump is "running the single most negative, sleazy campaign in American history for a major party candidate."
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: MarkD
Chump really turned it around
Chump really turned it around. What a great liar. Does he remind anyone else of Tommy Smothers? "Momma liked you best".
But really, how many folks did not know who they were voting for before the debate? Biden is not really a factor. This election is all about the orange one. It's for or against, and it comes down to what kind of human you are. Period.
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He reminds me of Pappy O
He reminds me of Pappy O’Daniel from Oh Brother
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W8AgOozM8KQ
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank
Trump did very well. He kept
Trump did very well. He kept pounding the bullshit and lies. He attacked and attacked with those high value psychological points. He ultimately said absolutely nothing about policy.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Rasputin O'Leary
Bullshit.
Bullshit. chump fooled nobody last nite.
Sorry folks, amerika knows a leopard can't change it's spots in one debate. Nice try polishing the turd-rump, but it's ovah. More than half the country's already voted.
'Warning flare': New swing-state data shows massive Democratic early-vote lead
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/23/early-voting-numbers-swing-stat...
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The final debate
The final debate
Last night’s presidential debate felt much more normal than this year’s first one. The candidates interrupted each other only occasionally rather than constantly. They argued about big policy issues like the coronavirus, foreign policy and more.
But the debate wasn’t normal by the standards of nearly all of American history. It wasn’t normal because one of the nominees — the sitting president — told one lie after another. He did so about the virus, North Korea, China, Russia, climate change, his own health care policy, Joe Biden’s health care policy, Biden’s finances and the immigrant children who were separated from their parents.
I understand you may be tired of hearing about President Trump’s untruths. I’m tired of writing about them. They hardly qualify as surprising anymore.
But it’s impossible to analyze a debate filled with untruths without first acknowledging them. They undermine an event meant to highlight differences between candidates. They undermine democracy. To ignore them is to miss the biggest story: a president trying to construct his own reality.
How are voters supposed to choose between, say, two different health care plans if one candidate makes up stories about both plans?
No previous president has behaved this way. Democrats often accused George W. Bush of lying, and Republicans accused Barack Obama of lying. And both men made questionable statements and statements that later proved untrue. But when they proved untrue, Bush and Obama stopped making the claims. Trump just keeps making them.
Debate analysis
“From a lying perspective, Trump is even worse tonight than in the first debate … an absolute avalanche of lying” — CNN’s Daniel Dale, who’s been probably the most committed Trump fact checker.
“Biden was again imperfect from a fact check perspective. He made at least a few false, misleading, or lacking-in-context claims. Trump was, as usual, a serial liar.” — Dale. (A Times fact check of both candidates is here.)
“Trump was far more disciplined. He landed a few sharp attacks, even as he diverted into some issues that seem more like fodder for the conservative media-sphere.” — The Times’s Lisa Lerer.
“The subjects Trump most wishes to discuss are ones largely disconnected from those that matter most to voters.” — Jane Coaston, Vox.
“This debate probably isn’t going to hurt Senate Republican candidates in a way the first debate did.” — Jessica Taylor, Cook Political Report.
The moderator, NBC’s Kristen Welker, won praise as the best, most commanding moderator of this debate season (and she had the advantage of the candidates being muted for stretches while the other was speaking).
Two post-debate polls both found Biden to be the winner, by 54 percent to 35 percent in CNN’s and 53 percent to 39 percent in YouGov’s.
Key lines
“I take full responsibility, but China brought it here. It’s not my fault,” — Trump, on the virus.
“People are learning to die with it.” — Biden, after Trump said the country was learning to live with the virus.
“Why didn’t you do it [while vice president?] You had eight years with Obama. You know why, Joe? Because you’re all talk and no action,” Trump, on Biden’s criminal-justice plans.
“It’s not about his family or my family. It’s about your family.” — Biden, after an exchange of personal accusations.
“I would transition away from the oil industry, yes … The oil industry pollutes, significantly. It has to be replaced by renewable energy over time.” — Biden.
For more: See The Times’s main story; seven minutes of video highlights; and Times Opinion writers on the night’s best and worst moments.
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He lowered the bar so much
He lowered the bar so much the first debate that just because he didnt shit in his hand, fling it at the moderator then try and piss on Joes podium, he came off as "composed"
He still lied his ass off, used Qanon codewords/ shorthand and offered no real vision or justification of why he should continue in the job.
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>>>He still lied his ass off,
>>>He still lied his ass off, used Qanon codewords/ shorthand and offered no real vision or justification of why he should continue in the job
Yes, and I hope the people that are undecided understand that but I am losing faith in humanity and the intelligence of our society. (not sure how anyone could be undecided at this point, but I understand that most people aren't into politics like I am)
Hey Smiley, what are the Qanon codewords? I'm so leery of searching online for conspiracy info.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ramble on Rose
>>He lowered the bar so much
>>He lowered the bar so much the first debate that just because he didnt shit in his hand, fling it at the moderator then try and piss on Joes podium, he came off as "composed"
And thanks for the laugh of the day!!! So eloquently said I could almost smell the stench of feces.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sound and Vision
Honestly, who is really
Honestly, who is really undecided? Nobody with this division. Did my part and Biden is no prize but the orange turd needs to be flushed.
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Yep 4 winds. I just watched
Yep 4 winds. I just watched Biden's live Covid response press conference and he was awesome! I wish he could have articulated with the same resolve those cohesive thoughts last night.
Strong, communicative and level headed. He actually has a plan to move us through this bullshit. Yes, he was reading the speech from a teleprompter but you could feel his passion, honesty and concern for "us", the little people.
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Joe did a good job at the
Joe did a good job at the debate. The other guy has no plan and is unable to verbalize what he to do about the covid other than we are rounding the corner.
The Hunter Biden story is a complete load of horse deal.
On the other hand, the China bank account that Trump supposedly closed in 2015 might have legs.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2020/10/23/forbes-estimates-ch...
Forbes is just another one of those fake news outfits