FALSE on both counts. Whaddaya expect from the liar-in-chief?
Water shortages are NOT a factor in the spread and severity of the California wildfires... most reservoirs in the Central Valley are at normal levels for this time of year, and far above the dangerously low levels seen in the recent drought of 2011-2015. If anything, greedy and powerful corporate agriculture interests have historically been allocated far more irrigation water than is sustainable by utilizing unethical and non-sensical practices such as growing vast acreages of water-intensive crops (e.g., almonds, alfalfa, cotton, rice, etc.) in desert-like areas that normally receive little to no summertime rainfall.
As for the claim that increased logging will result in less wildfire activity, that has been proven to be a complete myth over and over again.
By attempting to put out all fires whenever they appear, we have allowed forests to become overgrown with more fuel for bigger fires. Some have suggested allowing small fires to burn themselves out, especially in cooler, wetter years, to reduce the fuel load.
i let a guy know the water was still on when he was wasting it washing all his shit off at the beach....seemed to not know there's like a drought...mannn.
Trump alone can fix it by lowering automobile emission standards thereby limiting available oxygen. More pollution means less oxygen for fires to burn. He has the best brain.
Seeing these three articles in a row made me laugh. We are about 1 degree Celsius warmer right now. The goal of the Paris Accord is to hold the line at 2 degrees, but it’s not like we are taking that seriously. The middle article points out the unintended consequences of 2 degrees. Let’s just say they aren’t good, but hey Meghan and Kim are important too. Wonder which article got the most clicks.
I hear the water that should be used to fight the fires in California instead is being diverted to a lake in Silicon Valley that stocks sushi fish. That’s crazy someone should do something about it.
President Donald Trump on Monday threw a tremor into California wildfire battles with a tweet blaming Gov. Jerry Brown for allegedly limiting access to water for firefighting.
One tweet wasn’t enough, so he followed up by claiming environmental regulations are magnifying the fires. The tweets demonstrated deep ignorance of both water management and firefighting.
The claims were quickly debunked by firefighting officials, who felt compelled to assure the world they have all the water they need. And by scientists, who asserted there is no link between environmental regulation and water for firefighting.
Regardless, the tweets were followed Wednesday by an official policy statement from the secretary of commerce ordering the National Marine Fisheries Service to bypass the Endangered Species Act to “use any water as necessary to protect life and property in the affected areas.”
The only way the fisheries service can carry out that directive is by allowing more water releases from dams and more diversions from the imperiled Sacramento-San Joaquin Delta. Those limits are meant to protect salmon, steelhead, sturgeon and other species.
There are no direct benefits to firefighting from such changes. Most likely, the Trump administration’s directive is intended to curry favor with supporters in California who complain they need more water for farming.
There are no indications the directive has resulted in more water releases. But if it does, the result will only be more conflict over water in the fall, when water typically does become scarce and migrating fish need it more than ever to survive.
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Is this true? Is water being
Is this true? Is water being diverted into the Pacific Ocean causing the wildfires?
Also, if you tree clear will that stop fire spreading?
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FALSE on both counts.
FALSE on both counts. Whaddaya expect from the liar-in-chief?
Water shortages are NOT a factor in the spread and severity of the California wildfires... most reservoirs in the Central Valley are at normal levels for this time of year, and far above the dangerously low levels seen in the recent drought of 2011-2015. If anything, greedy and powerful corporate agriculture interests have historically been allocated far more irrigation water than is sustainable by utilizing unethical and non-sensical practices such as growing vast acreages of water-intensive crops (e.g., almonds, alfalfa, cotton, rice, etc.) in desert-like areas that normally receive little to no summertime rainfall.
As for the claim that increased logging will result in less wildfire activity, that has been proven to be a complete myth over and over again.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2014/05/22/the-myth-of-forest-health-logging/
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What did Ronny say? The trees
What did Ronny say? The trees are causing global warming with all the C02 they let out. At least he admitted global warming.
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Fire suppression methods over
Fire suppression methods over the last 90 years have contributed to the intensity of wildfires:
https://www.npr.org/2017/10/17/558390511/how-fire-suppression-techniques...
By attempting to put out all fires whenever they appear, we have allowed forests to become overgrown with more fuel for bigger fires. Some have suggested allowing small fires to burn themselves out, especially in cooler, wetter years, to reduce the fuel load.
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Fire suppression methods over
That is how nature handled itself before. Of course, you would still need robust fire suppression when structures are threatened.
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Have there been any recent
Have there been any recent cooler / wetter years in CA?
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i let a guy know the water
i let a guy know the water was still on when he was wasting it washing all his shit off at the beach....seemed to not know there's like a drought...mannn.
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We have mountain goats
We have goats clearing a lot of overgrowth in the East Bay Hills. Probably a better idea than trying to control burn, with so many houses in the area.
So what is Donald Trump proposing in this tweet?
We need to water the trees more?
We need more dams?
We need more logging?
We need more distractions from that witch hunt?
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must tree clear to stop fire
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Smoke gooood!
Smoke gooood!
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I am actually surprised he
I am actually surprised he didn’t suggest removing the oxygen from California to stop the fires
seems like that would help him to accomplish even more of his goals in making this country great again
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FALSE on both counts.
FALSE on both counts. Whaddaya expect from the liar-in-chief? <<
Trump Family = GIANT Crooked SCUMBAGS !
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Trump alone can fix it by
Trump alone can fix it by lowering automobile emission standards thereby limiting available oxygen. More pollution means less oxygen for fires to burn. He has the best brain.
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GOOD! GOOD!
GOOD! GOOD!
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104 today? God damn, dirt
104 today? God damn, dirt-licking environmentalists making the sun burn hotter.
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http://wildfiretoday.com/2018
http://wildfiretoday.com/2018/08/06/trump-wrongly-blames-california-wild...
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"It is being diverted into
"It is being diverted into the Pacific Ocean"
No it's not - that's where it all ends up anyway, except the fraction that evaporates. We have diverted it elsewhere temporarily..
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How to lie in less than 140
Trumps Twitter feed = The MAGA Propaganda Ministry
How to lie in less than 140 characters by Dumb Dumb Don
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These tweets (propaganda)
These tweets were meant to shore up support for Devin Nunes & Kevin McCarthy
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https://www.washingtonpost
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2018/08/06/o...
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At the current pace, the two
At the current pace, the two fire seasons since California's five-year drought ended will be the worst on record...
Mendocino wildfire explodes into raging monster nearly the size of Los Angeles
Clear Lake wildfire now largest in California history
By Amy Graff, SFGATE
https://www.sfgate.com/california-wildfires/article/Mendocino-Complex-Fi...
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Seeing these three articles
Seeing these three articles in a row made me laugh. We are about 1 degree Celsius warmer right now. The goal of the Paris Accord is to hold the line at 2 degrees, but it’s not like we are taking that seriously. The middle article points out the unintended consequences of 2 degrees. Let’s just say they aren’t good, but hey Meghan and Kim are important too. Wonder which article got the most clicks.
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I hear the water that should
I hear the water that should be used to fight the fires in California instead is being diverted to a lake in Silicon Valley that stocks sushi fish. That’s crazy someone should do something about it.
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follow-up summary:
follow-up summary:
https://www.newsdeeply.com/water/executive-summaries/2018/08/10
Published on Aug. 10, 2018
Wildfires Become an Excuse for Water Meddling
President Donald Trump on Monday threw a tremor into California wildfire battles with a tweet blaming Gov. Jerry Brown for allegedly limiting access to water for firefighting.
One tweet wasn’t enough, so he followed up by claiming environmental regulations are magnifying the fires. The tweets demonstrated deep ignorance of both water management and firefighting.
The claims were quickly debunked by firefighting officials, who felt compelled to assure the world they have all the water they need. And by scientists, who asserted there is no link between environmental regulation and water for firefighting.
Regardless, the tweets were followed Wednesday by an official policy statement from the secretary of commerce ordering the National Marine Fisheries Service to bypass the Endangered Species Act to “use any water as necessary to protect life and property in the affected areas.”
The only way the fisheries service can carry out that directive is by allowing more water releases from dams and more diversions from the imperiled Sacramento-San Joaquin Delta. Those limits are meant to protect salmon, steelhead, sturgeon and other species.
There are no direct benefits to firefighting from such changes. Most likely, the Trump administration’s directive is intended to curry favor with supporters in California who complain they need more water for farming.
There are no indications the directive has resulted in more water releases. But if it does, the result will only be more conflict over water in the fall, when water typically does become scarce and migrating fish need it more than ever to survive.
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Isn’t “Chinatown” about
Isn’t “Chinatown” about something like this?
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“massive amounts of readily
“massive amounts of readily available water”
yep, that’s California.
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https://www.washingtonpost
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/08/15/ryan-zinke-blames-calif...?