Fake News Gets Real

Stupid + guns.

What could go wrong?

Why didn't they blow him away? perhaps this is part of the script

all the world is a stage, and we are merely players.

this smells of a major psyop.

fake news? ha.. this is an attempt to control alternative media, as they've exposed some inconvenient truths (remember that one?) meanwhile, the mainstream has convinced  a large portion of the gullible masses that Putin ruined Hillary's presidential run, and therefore we need to crack down on fake news.. ha ha ha ... you are being played like a mutha fucking fiddle.

unfortunately pedophilia and satanism is way too real. where ya been, living under a rock?

Although not related to pizzagate, you should listen to this brand new interview with two MK Ultra survivors. 

Medicine Bear Whitebow & John Stormm: MKUltra Reality

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGPsEe3_674

or this from investigative journalist James Corbett in 2015:

Pedophiles Run the Government and No One Gives a Damn - BFP Roundtable

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFZRQcSMeeM

this whole "fake news" fucking bullshit is meant to distract you from the truth.

Guy is as dumb as you trump supporters.

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/food/blog/20840980/alt-right-conspira...

The comments are precious. 

Gold is fake money

Money is fake gold.

So are Hilliary "supporters" "smart?"

how is voting for a known money launderer/liar/incompetent hack/probable murderer smart again?

Politicians r fake satanists 

.....

Trump's cabinet pick has in the past tweeted about these absurd conspiracy theories, and his son Michael Flynn is just as clueless

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/12/05/did-michael-fl...

The Trump regime is not interested in intelligence briefings,

instead Trump and his cabinet will be relying on fake news and unintelligent briefings from Alex Jones' Info Wars and Breitbart.

Show of hands please.....

Of everyone crying "fake news" steadily to the beat of the media......After looking over all the allegations and connections being drawn, seeing the coded language in wikileaks along with all of the vile and evil artwork these people are into then combined with the fucked up senses of humor about killing and owning little children in the instagram feed....

Who would leave their child with James Alefantis for an evening?

Step right up, don't fall all over yourselves now.

Perhaps there was a stupid vigilante tragically motivated by this inquiry and there is something to incredible amount of smoke surrounding these allegations.

People are so binary and acting like the two are somehow mutually exclusive.

https://medium.com/@LoriHandrahan2/daniel-rosen-s-arrest-1f7befb1762c#.x9eemzhd0

This list of people in high places in our own government along with their crimes who have been arrested for pedophilia is pretty staggering.

Its not like this is that far afield.

gotta hand it to brochaco, he's been following my blogging over the past couple years. hi bro, hope the family is kickin ass

edgar madison welch has an imdb page? who is this guy?

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2625901/

we may need to re-evaluate which of the news is actually "fake."

Fake = no sources or unreliable sources or unamed sources

fake = no retractions printed when found to be wrong

I thought that shit was taught in high school journalism class ?

Red, what sources of information have formed your opinion of pizzagate as being fake? please list them

http://www.thenewsliteracyproject.org/sites/default/files/GO-TenQuestion...

so....no takers for the Alefantis Babysitting Biz so far?

shocking.

yeah, me neither.

that dude is a straight up creep.

who is Alefantis' instagram avatar?......Roman Emporer Hadrian's young boy lover, Antinous.

From wiki:

"For centuries, pederasty had long been socially acceptable among Greece's leisured and citizen classes, with an older erastes (aged between 20 and 40) undertaking a caring sexual relationship with an eromenos (aged between 12 and 18) and taking a key role in their education;[20] and Hadrian took Antinous as a favoured servant when they were aged about 48 and 13. Such a societal institution of pederasty was not indigenous to Roman culture, although bisexuality was the norm in the upper echelons of Roman society by the early 2nd century.[21]"

"In Egypt, the local priesthood immediately deified Antinous by identifying him with Osiris due to the manner of his death"

"Lambert believed that the sculptures of Antinous "remain without doubt one of the most elevated and ideal monuments to pederastic love of the whole ancient world",[9"

"The cult of Antinous was criticised by various individuals, both pagan and Christian.[82] Critics included followers of other pagan cults, such as Pausanias,[83]Lucian, and the Emperor Julian, who were all sceptical about the apotheosis of Antinous, as well as the Sibylline oracles, who were critical of Hadrian more generally. The pagan philosopher Celsus also criticised it for what he perceived as the debauched nature of its Egyptian devotees, arguing that it led people into immoral behaviour, in this way comparing it to Christianity.[82] Surviving examples of Christian condemnation of the Antinous cultus come from figures like Tertullian, Origen, Jerome, and Epiphanios. Viewing the religion as a blasphemous rival to Christianity, they insisted that Antinous had simply been a mortal human and condemned his sexual activities with Hadrian as immoral. Associating his cult with malevolent magic, they argued that Hadrian had imposed his worship through fear.[84]"

Hmmm, where else in this have we seen references to Osiris?

The 14 and the Fish tattooed on John Podesta's hands.

This guy uses the the image of the statue most associated with pederastic love in the ancient world as his avatar....his online symbol.

Not a smoking gun, but god damn, there sure is a lot of smoke for there not to be a fire.

Nothing new about "fake" news and its consequences.

Anyone remember the Little Rascals Day Care case?  Two people ended up going to jail because a bunch of idiots decided to believe obviously untrue stories of child abuse.

How about vaccines causing autism?

Or that Chevron poisoned Ecuadorians?  The case was thrown out under a racketeering statute.

Horoscopes are true?

Hands up, don't shoot?  Michael Brown was a criminal who has just robbed a store and charged the officer after trying to steal his gun.  That was the determination of the Obama DOJ report.

You're only hearing about it now because the press can't stand the fact that Trump won the election and they are doing everything they can to discredit his administration before it even gets off the ground.

When Bigfoot gets tired of investigating chemtrails he stops in to Comet Ping Pong for pizza.

After a great meal he is ready for his Flat Earth society meeting.  

>The 14 and the Fish tattooed on John Podesta's hands.

'Tattoed'???   Lol.  

Thom I'm not sure that you're grasping the concept of fake news.

double post.

I like cartoons 

>>>>Who would leave their child with James Alefantis for an evening?

HAH. 

>>>>Horoscopes are true?

we get a lot of papers here at the office, but personally, i will not read a print newspaper which still publishes a horoscope section. 

<<<Tattoed'???   Lol.  

ok, fine. I guess you know better.

would it make any difference if it was written in a sharpie?

the meaning is still there.

The connection to Osiris and Egyptian Mystery Cults is still there, now popping up with Alefantis and correlating the 

pedophile angle.

Like I said, obviously not a smoking gun, but there sure is a lot of smoke in my opinion.

>ok, fine. I guess you know better.

Apparently I do as he has nothing tattooed on his hands.   It's almost as if you, Lassen & a few others want/need this to be true to prove out the 'anyone but Hillary' narrative. 

In your own words 'tattooed', not sharpied -  driving your point with sensationalism as though this guys walks around flaunting his pedophilia and child trafficking.   I hate to break it to you but the election wasn't fixed and there is no Clinton supported child sex trafficking ring run out of a pizza place in DC. 

http://wamu.org/story/16/12/05/comet-ping-pong-fallout-hits-neighboring-...

Torches, pitchforks, etc...

<<< It's almost as if you, Lassen & a few others want/need this to be true to prove out the 'anyone but Hillary' narrative. 

please, this isn't political. this is about the elite vs. the people.

Hillary lost, what would be the point?  She's going to fade away.

 Besides, Donald Trump is as mixed up with Epstein and pedophile Island as Bill Clinton is.

i'm just objectively looking at what people have been digging up.

Maybe you could bring some facts to this discussion, we all know your opinion now.

btw, aren't you one of those crazy 9-11 conspiracy theorists?

<<< as though this guys walks around flaunting his pedophilia and child trafficking.

apparently, he does or how would this have come up in 2011?

https://twitter.com/AndrewBreitbart/status/33636278100561920?ref_src=tws...

>>>> mixed up with Epstein

Hah. 

The Epstein thing doesn't run as deep as you think it does, or as creepy, though he is a bit of a creep, and did go down the rabbit hole a bit.
He just likes naked women running around his house, and wound up, by way of his idiot female handler(who sold him out), having girls under 18 at his house and traveling with him, because, firstly, THEY liked the money.
I don't give him any slack, because he knew, but he didn't know for a while, because handler didn't ask their ages at first. 
She just went out looking for girls who wanted to hang with a rich guy, topless at his house, and maybe give him a hand job or two before the canapes and first course was served by the pool.

we did an extensive remodel/removation/addition of his house a while back. i know the grounds. even most of the pictures around the house the girls were topless.

he just couldn't lead a life which didn't have paid topless ladies on the premises at all times. 

Jonas, are you suggesting that my motives are purely political? geez dude.. this is about children that are being tortured by sick and demented people. Furthermore, if you hadn't noticed, the election is over, and Hillary lost. I'm still talking about pizzagate for the sake of the children, not for any other reason.

When are they gonna catch that Pied Piper guy?

<<<he just couldn't lead a life which didn't have paid topless ladies on the premises at all times. 

Has Virginia Robert's account of being forced to have orgies and sex with Prince Andrew multiple times been discredited?

She seems pretty well informed about his whole operation.

Her testimony is downright chilling if you read it.

Im sure you are aware, but Im curious about your take on this part.

Summary..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2904911/Abused-child-Dabbling-dr...

Mental illness had to have played a part in this

I really hope you guys solve these mysteries. Your doing gods work here. Hats off bros.

>Mental illness had to have played a part in this

it sure seems like it, and what's disconcerting about it all is that Infowars and Breitbart feed into the paranoid schizophrenic's minds reinforcing the crazy and driving them further away from reality. Plenty of examples right here in this thread.

http://dcmusicdownload.com/2016/12/05/stand-with-comet-event-set-for-fri...

From the link above

>Just last week, Comet Ping Pong announced plans to increase security for all its upcoming concerts following a wave of harassing phone calls, emails and social media messages. A few days before Election Day, a fake news story about Comet Ping Pong made its way online, after Wikileaks published hacked emails between the venue’s owner, James Alefantis, and Hillary Clinton’s campaign chair, John Podesta. In one of the emails, they discussed hosting a fundraiser for Clinton, eliciting rumors that Comet Ping Pong was somehow a site for child-trafficking.

The conversation spilled over to sites like Reddit, who eventually shut down the ‘Pizzagate’ thread. Users of that thread have since moved on to other platforms to continue their crazy theories, and Comet Ping Pong employees have continued to receive harassing messages and even death threats. Musicians who have performed at Comet Ping Pong along with businesses next door have also reported getting abusive messages.

>I'm still talking about pizzagate for the sake of the children, not for any other reason

Then you best strap up and pay that place a visit. It's all the rage these days.  

>facts

If you can offer up facts than I can debate you with facts.  

>the election is over

>Hillary lost, what would be the point?

No shit the election is over but neither of you seem to understand that this 'surfaced' as another tactic to malign the Hillary campaign. 

>btw, aren't you one of those crazy 9-11 conspiracy theorists?

I do not believe the official report based on my personal experience with 9-11 and science. 

<<<No shit the election is over but neither of you seem to understand that this 'surfaced' as another tactic to malign the Hillary campaign. 

ooh, link?  because that smells a lot like an opinion.

Being associated with pedophiles in reality tends to malign one's character.

Sorry about the timing.

>btw, aren't you one of those crazy 9-11 conspiracy theorists?

<<I do not believe the official report based on my personal experience with 9-11 and science. 

Right there with ya.

Nancy, which category is Jonas in?

Do you think that Hillary and Bill stole all the furniture, utensils and fixtures from the White House before they left?

The timing is exactly what this whole thing is about.  

65k dollars of succulent hot dogs, please.

i love wikileaks. 

Still opinion based on your view.

<<Do you think that Hillary and Bill stole all the furniture, utensils and fixtures from the White House before they left?

I  honestly don't understand your point here or what you are trying to ask.

Look, i think it's mostly ok if anybody wants to slander the political pervs of our day.

i'm sure most people involved in government would rape any man, woman, child, or beast in a demonic ritualistic blood orgy without thinking twice, but maybe we should leave the simple working stiffs at this pizza place out of it. 

They seem to have suffered enough

I have to think running a child smuggling sex ring would take up too much time to for you to

do much else.  The Clintons and the like are busy people.

What did she hide in those woods?

The clintons don't own pedo island, they just have timeshares there

Epstein owns the island. 

We were slated to do work there, prior to him getting scoped up on the pedo thing. 

At least these kids can feel a little special about being victimized by such elite movers and shakers on the world stage.

i imagine when most kids get molested at a pizza place it's by some regular, old, seedy homeless character at the chuck e cheese on the bad side of town;

no ping pong, live bands, political cover ups or anything nearly that exciting.

<<<We were slated to do work there, prior to him getting scoped up on the pedo thing. 

curious, did he cancel?

or did you guys pull out because of the association? (perceived or real)

Hey Timmy! Good to have you back. You're right, I'm sure Bill isn't driving the rape van. Good catch.

'Sup E?

Has anyone checked in on Delia since the election?

Lol, I was actually just thinking about Delia for some reason and hoping she was ok

https://news.vice.com/story/eu-to-silicon-valley-fix-your-hate-speech-pr...

people need to go read John Stuart Mills. 

to whom would "you" make the arbiter, deciding what you might want to hear or read? or decides who is the harmful speaker.

are we not grown up?

you need protecting from falsities? 

again, can you not decide for yourself?

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this anti fake news rally is an ajar door letting the censorship gang in.

motive on both parts is interesting, though the motive behind censorship is utterly staggering. 

>>>or did you guys pull out because of the association? (perceived or real)

neither, his people finished the house here, paid up, and we never heard any more mention about doing the job.

>>>>>Hey Timmy! Good to have you back. You're right, I'm sure Bill isn't driving the rape van. Good catch.

good to be back.

I bet Bill isn't a very good driver anyway.

<<<to whom would "you" make the arbiter, deciding what you might want to hear or read? or decides who is the harmful speaker.

are we not grown up?

Amen. That's been my drumbeat since first hearing the term 'fake news' a month ago.

It was so clear censorship was the goal of this push.

Thanks for that Mills suggestion, bookmarking for later.

People seem so willing to give over agency for their mind to Jake Tapper becasue he has the window dressing of "real news", but CNN has a viewpoint and reality usually lies somewhere between all of the conflicting viewpoints, why not get familiarized with the various forms of thinking to be really well informed and make your own decision?

And that's obviously not to say that I knee jerk reject CNNs reporting or any mainstream media's but you have to take it all with a grain of salt and be informed as to the viewpoint you are reading so you can appropriately filter it. ( I had to say that because someone would inevitably say "so, you dont trust MSNBC, but take infowars as gospel? got it." That's absolutely not the case here.)

..formerly on Trump's transition team. 

http://www.salon.com/2016/12/06/michael-flynns-conspiracy-minded-son-who...

From earlier in the thread.....

(Yes Jonas, I'm quoting myself)

<<<Besides, Donald Trump is as mixed up with Epstein and pedophile Island as Bill Clinton is.

Of course he doesn't want to open this can of worms.

But it's funny to see Nancy touting Trump's administrative moves now. This thing sure is making strange bedfellows.

Haha. I was pointing out the absurdity of having fake news proponents on Trump's transition team. I guess it's not any more absurd as having Bannon on board. 

PIzzagate?!

Fucking idiots. yeah, you too 73.

News should affirm not inform. 

from the link above

>>

President-elect Donald Trump can disavow white nationalists as much as he wants, but so long as he employs individuals like Michael G. Flynn on his transition team, it will be hard to believe that their views aren’t influencing his own.

Michael G. Flynn, the son of retired Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn (who is slated to become Trump’s national security adviser), has an official government transition email address, as CNN reported on Monday. As CNN’s Jake Tapper tweeted on Tuesday, Flynn also continues to “help his father with some administrative and scheduling work and that needs to be run through transition.”

Flynn has also been using social media to promote some of the fringe right’s most bigoted and patently false conspiracy theories, according to a report on Monday by Think Progress. He has claimed that President Obama hates Christians, has linked the president with Muslim terrorists and non-white criminals, has alleged that Sen. Marco Rubio has a cocaine habit. Most notably, Flynn has used his Twitter account to illogically argue that the Pizzagate conspiracy theory — a meritless story claiming that Hillary Clinton’s team is engaged in a child sex abuse ring that operates out of a Washington DC pizzeria — needs to be “proven to be false” in order for the media to stop discussing it.

Lol. It's cute when you try to teach us stuff, Nanc.

You really think I hadn't already seen this stuff?

Either way, much Calmer than you are.

Love ya Nanc, evening if you are as hateful and simple minded as you come across.

Take a hike paranoid and delusional,  73 - watch out for those Chem Trails.

Lol. Much Calmer than you are apparently.

Have fun yelling at the crazies all day?

You sure are the picture of balance. Good work here today, hon.

Classic Nancy. Angrily dismisses those she disagrees with yet again after demonstrating no knowledge of the subject at hand.  You sure are consistent!

as i posted in the last days of the Zone, there is much more to Bannon than everyone thinks, and is seeing in the news.

of the few people around here who know him and a couple more who went to Harvard with him, they tag him as brilliant, and definitely not a white nationalist or supremacist. 

Look, I'm disgusted by this orange haired leader and what he is putting together, save Mattis.

and the more I hear, personally, from intelligent people, of Bannon, I am gaining a sense of wonder about him.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/06/us/politics/michael-flynn-son-trump.html

Trump Fires Senior Adviser’s Son From Transition for Sharing Fake News

WASHINGTON — President-elect Donald J. Trump on Tuesday fired one of his transition team’s staff members, Michael G. Flynn, the son of his designated national security adviser, for using Twitter to spread a fake news story about Hillary Clinton that this weekend led to an armed confrontation in a pizza restaurant in Washington.

The uproar over Mr. Flynn’s Twitter post cast a harsh spotlight on the views that he and his father, Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn, aired on social media throughout the campaign. Both men have shared fake news stories alleging that Mrs. Clinton committed felonies, and have posted their own Twitter messages that at times have crossed into Islamophobia.

...

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/12/06/pizzagate-is-the-satani...

>>..No wonder Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, Trump’s pick for national security adviser, promoted the insane conspiracy theory on social media. It was part of the water in which Trump supporters were swimming.

The original post was subsequently deleted, but users on Reddit and Snopes have reconstructed the details of the original conspiracy theory, a stew of homophobia, panic, and paranoia among Trump supporters. More than anything, the #pizzagate tale is an eerie reminder of the “Satanic Panic” and child-molestation scares of the 1980s—and before that, of mob panics from colonial witch-burnings to the lynching of blacks, the blood libel against Jews, and McCarthyism...

Anyone who subscribes to these blatantly false aka FAKE NEWS stories is batshit crazy and deserves to be..DISMISSED. Yeah. 

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/12/trump-fires-michael-flynn-jr

>>..As near as I can tell, Flynn Jr. is batshit crazy. It's good to see him gone. The only problem is that Flynn Sr. isn't much better, and he's going to be running our foreign policy before long. I guess the best we can hope for is that sometime soon he does something so mind-bogglingly barmy that even Donald Trump will feel obligated to fire him. Hopefully sometime before January 20.

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We are Dumbfuckastan 

I like how 73Guy keeps asking for facts to prove someone innocent.

Yeah, that's not how it works. There's a reason for that, you know? People shouldn't have to prove themselves innocent.

Ain't the Constitution a grand thing?

Steve Bannon is one of the Boys From Brazil, a clone of Hitler.

Give me a few minutes to dredge up some stupid shit to back it up. You know, maybe some reach of symbolism or something he has said. Once I do that, then you have to prove that it's false. If all goes well my bullshit story will go viral. Once a few million read it and a couple of wing nuts actually believe It, it will then be true.

The Internet for President in 2020!

<<<I like how 73Guy keeps asking for facts to prove someone innocent.

Looks like we are getting back to the reading comprehension thing.

Im not asking for "facts to prove someone innocent", why would I ?...there hasnt been a crime

Im advocating for discussion about the material in question because there seems to be a lot of smoke for 

there not to be a fire.

Most people crying fake news display no knowledge of the actual material that brought all of this to light.

<<<Yeah, that's not how it works

no shit.

any more remedial subjects from grade school for us today?

Touchy, touchy, aren't you?

There's nothing to discuss, Einstein. That's why your discussion isn't happening. I think that pretty much everyone now knows that the whole thing was fake. The dude who started the story has admitted it.

Now, do you really want to start with personal attacks about intelligence? You're barking up the wrong tree, and probably disproving the point you're trying to make.

Brilliant...

Id just like to be able to discuss fringe subjects without all of the personal insults being hurled.

Ive been become of it when attacked, but I really try to keep it to the subject at hand.

Can we look at the shitty reporting surrounding this?.... specifically the NYT article that came out first, "debunking" the subject?

Most people never read more than four paragraphs of a news story....let's look at what the NYT says about this to "fact Check" (as they originally titled the article, now changed).

When Mr. Alefantis discovered that his employees were getting similar abusive messages, he looked online to unravel the accusations. He found dozens of made-up articles about Mrs. Clinton kidnapping, molesting and trafficking children in the restaurant’s back rooms. The articles appeared on Facebook and on websites such as The New Nationalist and The Vigilant Citizen, with one headline blaring: “Pizzagate: How 4Chan Uncovered the Sick World of Washington’s Occult Elite.”

None of it was true. While Mr. Alefantis has some prominent Democratic friends in Washington and was a supporter of Mrs. Clinton, he has never met her, does not sell or abuse children, and is not being investigated by law enforcement for any of these claims. He and his 40 employees had unwittingly become real people caught in the middle of a storm of fake news.

This is fake news if there ever was one.

Look at the source article quoted in that paragraph.  If you read that article, it clearly says Hillary isnt being implicated.

There was never a claim about Clinton doing any of those things, so the NYT created a strawman and then dismisses the made up strawman as fake, but cleverly word it to make it look like NONE of the accusations are true.

Then Snopes cuts to this as proof pf debunking

None of this elaborate conspiracy theory was true, as the New York Times noted:

None of it was true. While [Comet Ping Pong pizzeria owner James] Alefantis has some prominent Democratic friends in Washington and was a supporter of Mrs. Clinton, he has never met her, does not sell or abuse children, and is not being investigated by law enforcement for any of these claims. He and his 40 employees had unwittingly become real people caught in the middle of a storm of fake news.

“From this insane, fabricated conspiracy theory, we’ve come under constant assault,” said Mr. Alefantis, 42, who was once in a relationship with David Brock, a provocative former right-wing journalist who became an outspoken advocate for Mrs. Clinton.

See how they cleverly left out the context?

Sure none of it was true.  The NYT made a false strawman that patently wasnt true and then Snopes uses that as proof to dismiss the idea?

lol.

keep up the fake news bleating, though.

have fun with your State News, most  can only digest pablum anyway.

<<<The dude who started the story has admitted it.

Now there's a fact I'd love to see corroborated.

I hadn't seen that....although Im guessing it isnt quite what you frame it as, because that's how you work.

>>Steve Bannon is one of the Boys From Brazil, a clone of Hitler.

Give me a few minutes to dredge up some stupid shit to back it up. You know, maybe some reach of symbolism or something he has said. Once I do that, then you have to prove that it's false. <<

How about when Bannon and said that Breitbart is the platform for the alt right?

So Bannon is either a racist, or he just profited from the promulgation of racist ideology.  No difference in my eyes.

Holy shit dude. Maybe you need a break?

link from guy who started this thing disavowing it, BK?

Ive searched and haven't been able to scrape up a hint of that statement you made.

The major news sources all say it's fake. A handful of alt news sources say it's true. The alt news sources say that the major news sources are all bought and are part of the conspiracy, and they won't report it as truth.Yet the major news sources keep saying it's untrue. People who reads the alt news say that those who read major news are too stupid to get it.

That's how it goes, so have fun with your conspiracy. You are accusing (maybe stopping just short of it?) someone of being a part of an organized pedophilia ring, and you're backing it up with symbolism and a handful of alt news sources. It's not a smoking gun, but there's smoke. If other people don't see the smoke they are too stupid or uninformed. Got it.

<<<I think that pretty much everyone now knows that the whole thing was fake. The dude who started the story has admitted it.

thats a pretty big statement you are making to bolster your opinion there.

link?

And I do stand corrected. On 12/4 Michael Flynn said, "Until it's proven false it will be a story."

The whack-job Trump team fired him for being to whacky for even them.

<<<The major news sources all say it's fake.

and yet you ignore my post about the NYT originally saying its fake by creating a strawman and saying the strawman was fake.

Well no shit. The lie they asserted patently wasnt true.

Then Snopes takes the strawman further out of context, referring to the NYT article implying it's all hogwash by leaving the context out and further muddying the waters.

They are now in a self perpetuating feedback loop saying its fake because its made up.

Yet I still haven't seen anything to point me to the direction that it isn't made up.

It shouldn't be that complicated. If someone says a crime has been committed, they should be able to offer even a modicum of proof.

It reminds me of the Salem Witch Hunts. People started accusing neighbors so that they could get their land or settle a grievance. The onus was on the accused, not the accuser.

Eerily similar.

Id really like to see that link from the guy that started this disavowing it.

That's a pretty big claim.

You're right. I made an erroneous claim. I'll own that. I was confusing the Michael Flynn firing with the original claimant. It doesn't change the reality that it's an unsubstantiated conspiracy.

I'd still like to see a modicum of proof.

Oh thanks, I wasnt trying to be a dick and drive the point into the ground.

I was genuinely curious and thought that realy would be something...

I didnt realize that your Michael Flynn post up there was in reponse to my question because I hadnt equated him with the originator as you had.

All good, B.

Pence lied about Jr. not being involved yesterday morning on Morning Joe, and then was caught late in the day by it. Dick.

We got Flynn, so we dont need Jr. Dad is crack pot enough, but i dont think thats why Trump has him there. 

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im so over this fake news angle happening, with the EU trying to crack town on it as well, even NPR joined in the fray.

alex jones had more people watch his election night stream than did CNN or MSNBC. his monthly unique views are off the chart, so calling them out does nothing but embolden them and his viewership, justifying their stance, while the citizenry is "paying for the rope that will hang us" in regards to the first amendment.

what's next, corporate owned, state directed media. Wait? Uh Uh uh. 

again.. 

to whom would "you" make the arbiter, deciding what you might want to hear or read? or decides who is the harmful speaker.

are we not grown up?

you need protecting from falsities? 

again, can you not decide for yourself?

can i get 65k dollars of succulent hot dogs, please.

>>>they should be able to offer even a modicum of proof.

i agree, and the majority of this comes from people going through the wiki dump of the emails with the pizza guy and comparing the language to the FBI manual on pedophilia, and its study of the pedo code words, finding them in the emails, and creating a jumping off point. seriously though, who emails a dude and asks for 65 grand in succulent hot dogs for a party. LOL

golf clap for Hollis.

Do you think I’ll do better playing dominos on cheese than on pasta?

--John Podesta

https://www.wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/50332

maybe he just wants a 8 ball?

Maybe he was talking about blow, and the conspiracists falsely attribute it to pedophilia.

Honestly, a pizza parlor being a front for a coke ring, and a politician wanting it for a party, makes more sense than 65k in cocktail weiners.

Hollis, you said that folks you talk to say that Bannon is not a racist, but what about him saying that Breitbart is the platform for the Alt-right? 

Did Bannon just profit from providing outlet for these racists?  Like I wrote in my 8:24 post...

Bannon is either a racist, or he just profited from the promulgation of racist ideology.  No difference in my eyes.

Here's a good reach into tangential territory.....

Eyes Wide shut, the pedophilia scene where underage Sobieski is frolicking with the two Japanese guys as Cruise looks for a mask for the party.

Anyone notice whats on the table out of place , amidst all of cartons of Chinese food?

Kubrick was extremely deliberate in his compostion of scenes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDKiyehma28

Brian, I can concur with that, hell or it could have a pay off for something else.

Another thing from Eyes Wide Shut...

Did anyone notice the abduction of the Cruise's little girl in the toy store at the end of the movie?

She turns around and looks at her parents before following the two creepy old guys set in the middle of the shot (same two guys who were guarding the strairway up to dead hooker earlier in the film) out of the frame and her parents talk for three more minutes, never thinking of her and we never see her again.  This is after she is enthusiastically presenting ideas for presents to her indifferent parents.

The insinuation is that the parents are either complicit or deserving of this outcome because Nicole sees her go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCakejA9VMc

r u saying the Clintons assassinated Stanely Kubrick? 

Kubrick is so damn interesting to me.

On one hand, he lets the cat out of the bag, but on the other hand he paints the elite as nothing more than odd swingers so when this stuff gets brought up, its sort of easily dismissed.  Cruise's punishment is nothing more than a scare.  Even the Pedophila scene is treated as consensual.  Its so odd.

The whole slow pacing combined with the length of that film is extremely hypnotic and its pretty well accepted Kubrick was a master of composition and the subliminal.

If they're not trafficking children, then explain this

pizza?

>>>Anyone notice whats on the table out of place , amidst all of cartons of Chinese food?

Nope - what?

>Nope - what?

Pizza?  Just a guess.

A cogent summary.

http://www.newyorker.com/news/amy-davidson/the-age-of-donald-trump-and-p...

Of course once the conspiracy virus takes hold it is persistant.  Like the yapping chihuahua your aunt has or the child in the airplane seat in front of you that you made the mistake of speaking to the conspiracy virus really has staying power.

Thick as a motherfucking brick...

i dont even have to rewatch the ending to get my creep on.

her little look back b4 going around endcap behind the two "men", all like "why are y'all so detached and distant mom and dad"

Lot of stupid in this thread. 

I've known James, the owner of Comet, for years. Been to his restaurant many times. You realize someone could have been killed because of this ridiculous conspiracy theory??

When's the coronation 

lol

Lol.

I've addressed that every time Jonas has brought it up.

How about we move on?  I've copped to it more than once and explained my thinking.

I , like millions of others, got a lot wrong about this election, not shying away from it.

I've got no problem with you broch, but I don't understand the constant  popping in and taking pot shots. At least be funny like Tim and E.

Yes, I know. But if she won then u would have been right. Right? Haha

Ok. I'll try harder. 

I just believe that no one is in control. Expect, maybe chaos. 

Just having fun. You guys get all nuts over nothing. If I post five sentences it's a lot.

Perfect timing for me to pop in.

>I , like millions of others, got a lot wrong about this election, not shying away from

I guess what I don't understand is why are you then running with a story that was created for the sole purpose of adding fuel to the 'anyone but Hillary!' message?  I fully expect you to deny that as your motive for engaging into this subject but it does not dismiss the origin of this non-story. 

>move on...     

You first. 

I've already suggested the compromise of accepting that most politicians are evil, sexual deviants but that this pizza place was probably wrongfully accused of the majority of the misdeeds laid out by this conspiracy.

<<<But if she won then u would have been right. Right? Haha

Lol. Fair enough.  

Jonas, I wasn't even speaking to you and the move on was about the constant Coronation ribbing. Not sure why you are so quick to get rid of me.  I appreciate your contributions and challenges.

Another kook falling for a a fake news story - this lady believed the conspiracy theory spread about the Sandy Hook elementary school shootings. As if the parents haven't suffered enough,  they have deal with fucking stupid people denying that the shooting occurred. 

http://time.com/4594150/florida-sandy-hook-death-threat/

>>Not sure why you are so quick to get rid of me.  

And '73 is  onto another conspiracy theory. Brilliant!

a good read:

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-12-07/behind-the-venomous-witches-of-pizzagate

...

But Welch, who brought a rifle into Comet Ping Pong, fired it and sent patrons scattering, is the exception in this story. He is obviously a dangerous knucklehead (or what's known in the gun-rights movement as a "good guy with a gun.") But he actually looks better than most of his peers, who trafficked in the same idiocy without ever getting up from their laptops.

...

A sizable cohort of Americans is so drunk on cheap propaganda that they have the reasoning capacity and political acumen of a wino face down on Skid Row. They have a media system that fuels them. A political party that often affirms them. And, soon, a president who trafficks in the falsehoods they cherish, and perhaps even some White House senior staff who share their ugly delirium. A political structure sustains this witching hour. That's the scariest thing of all. 

The Pope is in on it now!

Pope Francis has condemned disinformation as "probably the greatest damage that the media can do".

His comments come amid warnings of a "fake news" crisis in online media following last month's US elections.

Social media platforms and search engines were widely criticised in the poll's aftermath for failing to prevent the spread of fabricated stories.

The Pope himself fell victim to a fake news story, which falsely reported his endorsement of Donald Trump.

In a frank interview with Belgian Catholic weekly Tertio, the pontiff said the media's obsession with scandal was akin to "coprophilia", an abnormal interest in excrement.

This preyed on people's "tendency towards the sickness of coprophagia", the eating of excrement, he added, extending the analogy to apply it to the public's consumption of such coverage.

People could not be expected to make "a serious judgment" about any situation if the media provided "only a part of the truth, and not the rest", he said.

The issue of balance has been at the heart of the debate about changes in the way people access information in today's world.

Beyond the rapid and far-reaching spread of fake news, analysts have also criticised social media platforms like Facebook for enabling an "echo chamber" to be created, in which people are far less likely to be exposed to both sides of an argument.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38244274?ocid=socialflow_facebook&n...

So, the leader of an organization with a history of pedophilia is talking about feces eating?!?

Wow, the Pope, i mean the "Poop" is creepier than i thought..

So let me get this straight.  There is now a fake news conspiracy theory, whereas the fake news was created by some evil cabal of the (obviously liberal) elite to denigrate the actual news, the purpose of which is to cover up their nefarious cabal-like activities which include but are not limited to pedophilia and child trafficking.

To top it off, some of these fake new conspiracy theorists aka Pizzagate believers listen to Grateful Dead music?

Wow.  Just wow.

Washington Post Appends "Russian Propaganda Fake News" Story, Admits It May Be Fake

In the latest example why the "mainstream media" is facing a historic crisis of confidence among its readership, facing unprecedented blowback following Craig Timberg November 24 Washington Post story "Russian propaganda effort helped spread ‘fake news’ during election, experts say", on Wednesday a lengthy editor's note appeared on top of the original article in which the editor not only distances the WaPo from the "experts" quoted in the original article whose "work" served as the basis for the entire article (and which became the most read WaPo story the day it was published) but also admits the Post could not "vouch for the validity of PropOrNot's finding regarding any individual media outlet", in effect admitting the entire story may have been, drumroll "fake news" and conceding the Bezos-owned publication may have engaged in defamation by smearing numerous websites - Zero Hedge included - with patently false and unsubstantiated allegations.

It was the closest the Washington Post would come to formally retracting the story, which has now been thoroughly discredited not only by outside commentators, but by its own editor.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-07/washington-post-apends-russian-...

willy wonka is correct

Yes, fake news comes from all viewpoints, that is not the issue.

The Guardian published a story about the declining truthyness of Google, working off number of clicks and "market trends"  

A $.000000002 payoff per click adds up when a few million people click.

Samantha Bee seg on Fake new, she interviews a Clinton voter who makes money writing anti-Clinton fake news.

http://www.jonfr.com/?p=9092

Why is Julian Assange hiding out in an embassy?  What sex charge?

Where's Podesta hiding out? He hasn't tweeted since the Pizzagate story broke.

I know if i were the subject of a fake news story, i'd be shouting from the rooftops.

Maybe he's just busy coming up with new spirit cooking recipes.

>>>At least be funny like Tim and E.

i feel like it is all in good fun, and then someone contorts, gets their panties bunched up.

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i hate to repeat it again, but whether it is fake or not does not need to be the discussion.
this is a first amendment and censorship debate at its core, and now the Pope is involved, as well as the EU.

Thankfully, we have the Mark Zuckerberg's of the world to protect up from ourselves.

Facebook Already Blocking Links to “Fake News”

Despite Washington Post admitting its "fake news" exposé was based on shoddy research

A Twitter user revealed how he tried to post an Alex Jones Channel video about ‘PizzaGate’ on Facebook but was blocked from doing so because Facebook characterized the YouTube link as “unsafe”.

This suggests that more than just blocking alleged “fake news” websites, Facebook is censoring certain topics from being posted altogether.

http://www.infowars.com/facebook-already-blocking-links-to-fake-news/

And no, I'm no fan of this site.  But that's not needed to get the gist of the story.

Infowars? OK Adolph 

Thom please recreate this scenario and report back. 

>> Despite Washington Post admitting its "fake news" exposé was based on shoddy research.

I read the Editor's Note, and all it said was one of the four research groups they used on the story pulled some of the sites they listed, so they covered their asses because the sites doth protest too much. Nothing even close to a partial retraction - full story is still there.  The "journalist" telling you it was a shoddy research and near-retraction is named Tyler Durden (yes, the guy from The Fight Club!) on some ZeroHedge.com site I've thankfully never heard of.  Washington Post or ZeroHedge.  Tough choice.

However I know it is a losing argument when dealing with the old 9-11/Marathon Bombing/Sandy Hook new Pizzagate/FakeNews conspiracy theorist, um, types.  What fascinates me is I just don't get how they were attracted to the Philzone, or the Grateful Dead for that matter.  Was there a table set up at a Phil show I missed?  Or was it the fake Barton Hall show in 77?

Uses fake news promulgator to discredit fake news.  It is official, Thom..nutzo.

While the conspiracy freaks are riled about nonexistent pedophilia at a pizza joint has anyone thought about Trump bragging about walking in on teenage girls in states of undress and nudity and getting away with it because he "owns the pageant" lately.

Wealthy powerful people do weird and sick shit. 

Does Moonalice guy do anything besides play gigs on his own dime? 

The biggest fake news story is

wait for it

the fake news story.

We now have Hillary blaming her loss on "fake news" and saying that Congress needs to do something about it.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/309532-clinton-blasts-e...

If you people are stupid enough to let Clinton and her ilk decide what constitutes "real" news you don't deserve to live in a free society.

And why do I suspect that we'd never be hearing this bitching if she hadn't lost?

The left is truly pathetic.

You would be hearing about it and you have heard about it in the past.

It just used to be run off on mimeograph machines and stuffed in mailboxes at midnight or aired on obscure radio stations.

Smear sheets they were called.

Only difference now is a slick web page with realistic graphics makes them look legitimate.

What's pathetic to me is the post-truth Trumpian dystopia where the Big Lie has been taken to a new level.

Wonder if he got that from the Hitler speeches he kept by his bed? 

Unless one considers Business Insider a lefty fake news organ.

http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trumps-ex-wife-once-said-he-kept-a...

Don't worry, Thom. Nothing will be done about it as long as the Racist Steve Bannon is Propaganda Minister

>>>>Nothing will be done about it as long as the Racist Steve Bannon is Propaganda Minister
>>>>and now hillary wants congress to do something?

establishment politics will take small censorship wins all day long, and Trumps team is as establishment as it gets, even if many are new to DC(CEOs)

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to paraphrase history about coming barbarians?
"They never overrun the city until someone stays the gates open for them"

those who stayed the gates where the leaders/elders/clergy who had an underlying motive/agenda.

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no to censorship, or pay for the rope that will hang you. 

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considering paying for the rope that will hang you, last night while utterly bored i stumbled on this situation with Russia from April and May, while we were all looking somewhere else.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/05/31/the-u-s-violates-its-ow...
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-06-06/why-the-u-s-needs-rus...

"In 2014, US Congress passed a law demanding the United States phase out its reliance on the Russian-made RD-180s.
This vote violated that law, though the Obama Admin says differently.
 The Daily Beast reported  that the U.S. purchase of Russian rockets is enriching two senior Russian officials, Dmitry Rogozin and Sergei Chemezov, who were sanctioned in 2014 for the Ukraine invasion. In 2015, Putin placed Rogozin and Chemezov in charge of Russia’s space industry"

 

Orson Welles causes a nationwide panic with his broadcast of “War of the Worlds”—a realistic radio dramatization of a Martian invasion of Earth.

Hollis, I am not advocating censorship, I'm just trying to reassure Thom.  

I am curious about your statement that folks close to Bannon say that he is not racist.  What about Bannon's statement on Breitbart providing a platform for the Alt-right? 

The sun never lies...

https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/266360/nasa-admits-there-is-a-cha...

Did the Macedonian kid create all those Podesta emails? How about Alefantis' Instagram posts? Please tell me it's true. 

>>>Orson Welles causes a nationwide panic with his broadcast of “War of the Worlds”

one of my favorite marketing moments in American history. 

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i know you are not Tlach, im just wary of these sorts of things and how momentum behind them can lead to greater threats to the first, the only one i honestly think matters, and is the foundation for all the rest.

and regarding Bannon, these are people who know and have worked with him, and are people i know and deal with. They do not consider him the scariest person on the team. we can all form our opinions, and we all form first impression and principles, so to have trusted second degree contact tell me almost 180 degree different than what the main outlets say, drops my guard and deflects my attention from him.

I tend to think he is a vision guy, and that while yes, he rode the wave of "other,hate,conspiracy" into the WH, I just dont see that being the pervasive atmosphere going forward, maybe for a year, or so, but in government i always think bigger things are at work. We all have work to do, right, we are humans on earth, not a butterfly or an asteroid, we can affect change by working harder to make it more of what we wish it to be. just like anyone else. 

not fake

Hollis, Bannon's willingness to "ride the hate" leads  me to believe that he is either racist or amoral.

Aiq -- As always, very well stated.  I'm at a loss for words. This conversation, as ridiculous as the subject is, is a glaring example of the mindset of our country.  

Again Lassen if you are so concerned about the wellbeing of kids I'd suggest that you do something other than repeating dribble from cockmonkeyfuckhillary on reddit.

Jonas, The only time i've visited reddit was when i heard they took down the pizzagate stuff. i have no idea what reddit is, quite honestly. i also do not visit Infowars, and have consistently expressed my opinion that Alex Jones is controlled opposition.

This fake news psyop is being perpetuated to censor free speech.

You don't think discussing the reality of pedophilia in the highest echelons of power isn't doing anything? I would like to do more, and hopefully i can. Sorry my efforts aren't satisfactory compared to your righteous works.

<<<<<fake = no retractions printed when found to be wrong

I thought that shit was taught in high school journalism class ?<<<

<<<i love wikileaks. 

Chris Cuomo in the middle of october states only the media can look at the wikileaks Clinton Emails..that its illegal for the public ot look at it at them.

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/787749117502119936

Outright lies from the MSM to cool inquiry and debate.

No retraction yet two months out.

There has been no real investigation into the pizzagate claims by the MSM. To me, those Podesta emails and the Alefantis Instagram posts deserved a thorough look, but the mainstream media has absolutely refused to look into it whatsoever. Why? 

Could it be the MSM is providing cover for the pedophiles? You know, like Carlin said, "It's a big club, and you ain't in it."

Do I believe Hillary is running a Child Trafficking ring out of Comet Ping Pong? Hell no.

I believe anyone calling the businesses "involved" and threatening and lives/ violence and obvious vigilantes should be be dealt with to the fullest extent of the law and if libel is happening, those concerned should prosecute. 

I also believe, after plumbing the depths of the all the shit thrown at the wall, that there is definitely something creepy going on with a few of the characters that keep coming up, namely Alefantis and The Podestas.  Granted, it's easy to take a lot of it and dismiss, but I think that as momentum build on something like this, people reach and try to throw random stuff in to see if it sticks.  There is a whole lot of hogwash and purely wrong interpretation with much of the material.

Perception is reality and if there is nothing to the accusations at all, then it should be easy enough to explain away, but the shit they surround themselves with and obvious use of coded language speaks volumes to some of the accusations.  Maybe don't use the lead statue to pederastic love from the ancient world as your online avatar if you don't want people to think you support pedos? (and that's just a glib example, not what Im hanging my hat on).

I agree, we get into sticky territory when we are in situations where people have to disprove an obvious lie, but, in this situation, the knee jerk resounding chorus call for censorship is terrifying to me. I dont know what the solution is, but I sure dont think it lies with whittling down an already consolidated shitty media to "trusted" sources.

I dont know, I will always err on the side of more freedom/ responsibility for the individual and I think Hollis is, as often the case, correct in his assessment that we are calling for the rope that will hang us.

This , from UHollis, really distills what it comes down to for me.

to whom would "you" make the arbiter, deciding what you might want to hear or read? or decides who is the harmful speaker.

are we not grown up?

you need protecting from falsities? 

again, can you not decide for yourself?

good post 73, i agree with everything you wrote.

Here's a band that has played Comet Ping Pong, called Heavy Breathing. You may recall i linked back on PZ another band Sex Stains, with their pedophile symbol laden video Land of laLa.

Well, this band Heavy Breathing is even more twisted, and they've played an all ages show at Comet Ping Pong.

Anyone but me think this video is really fucked up?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zo_euND7Acs

A brief review of the "fake news" perpetuated by Hillary Clinton:

A video caused the Benghazi killings

A "vast right wing conspiracy" was responsible for the false allegations about her husbands womanizing

She didn't have any documents regarding the Rose Law Firm

She knew nothing about the death of Vince Foster

She studied the WSJ in order to turn $1,000 into $100,000 in cattle futures in less than a year

She set up her home server because she only wanted to use one device

She was insulted by a military recruiter when she tried to enlist

She had to run to avoid sniper fire when she landed in Bosnia

I would love to hear comments from the wise sages that are keepers of "real" news and judgers of "fake" news.

Please enlighten me!

TGIF

>>>Hollis, Bannon's willingness to "ride the hate" leads  me to believe that he is either racist or amoral.

trust me I get it, and until the majority sees different in the admin, that will live on.
I am planning on following closely this dude.

>I am planning on following closely this dude.<

Would you keep us posted on the scuttlebutt?

Poor Thom.

Can't define "news".

Don't forget the cocaine trafficking and multiple murders, all "documented" by Jerry Falwell back in the day on the video he sold on TV.  Didn't pay taxes on the ill gotten gains either because...ministry.

Those Clintons are criminal masterminds to get away with all this...the alt right knows all but the coppers can't make it stick.  

Did Patreaus give classified material to his mistress?

Did Jerry Falwell jr at Christian Liberty University just hire a new AD from Baylor who covered up sexual abuse?

Also, vetting sources and asking for legit multiple primary sources is not censoring free speech.

Pope Francis compares media focus on scandals to fecal fetish

Pope Francis joined the chorus of condemnation of media organizations that spread disinformation and compared their focus on "ugly things" to one of the more unsavory fetishes.

Francis said, although positive "in themselves," communications media can be harmful and used to slander people, "especially in the world of politics," during an interview Wednesday with the Belgian Catholic weeklyTertio. He added that anyone who uses means of communication to defame someone is committing a sin.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/12/09/pope-francis-fecal-f...

Sinners repent!!!!!!

So did Trump pass the bill to allow unstable people the right to buy guns again? 

Another great piece of work there by the orange one

Jones apologized as a way to avoid litigation. If he has a heart, I'm going to say it wasn't behind his apology.

And, yeah, Fabes. Trump lifted that regulation a few weeks ago.

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/876479

Even when he accomplishes something its fucked up, total clown show

So wait, the pedophile ring run by Hillary and Co. out of that pizza parlor in DC was FAKE???? 

Speechless 

https://youtu.be/_574Rxxez2c

I love Trevor Moore......from 2015.

Jones is and always has been a limited hangout disinformation shill.  

I wouldn't hang my hat on anything he says.  

Mike Edwards is right though, he was facing a lawsuit last week.  This seems related.  

So you knew all along that Alex Jones was a "disinformation shill" and you didn't tell any of us? Wtf? He's MSM TOO??? sigh 

Jones is not mainstream media. He's about as fringe as it gets on the civilian interwebz.

A few weeks ago a dude at the gym was telling me that Info Wars is the only place to get real, unbiased news that isn't slanted towards either the right or left. I just nodded and kept lifting.

He is a raging piece of shit.  He'd be funny if he wasn't so foul.

I'm still not convinced that Alex Jones isn't Tulsa Chris. Their resemblance is uncanny.

<<<So you knew all along that Alex Jones was a "disinformation shill" and you didn't tell any of us? Wtf

lol. I realize you are trollin' and all, but I've been pretty consistent in my disdain for this guy over the years. He reminds me of a dumb Sam Kinison.....or a raging cyst about to indiscriminately burst. 

Is real news about fake news real or fake?

Protesters outside White House demand ‘Pizzagate’ investigation

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2017/03/25/protesters-outsi...

And now that living-piece-of-human-excrement, Alex Jones posts an apology video.

dude should be arrested immediately for inciting violence at the very least.

To be fair to Jones, CT, he kept his distance on this from the beginning.  A few weeks back he was on the Joe Rogan podcast and seemingly changing tack, started embracing the idea of the Pedocracy and the podcast became the most popular single podcast in history.  They came after him when that blew up.

As far as inciting violence, the Comet shooter entered Comet with an ar-15 chambered in 9mm (the least penetrating round available and an extremely uncommon for a long gun enthusiast to load with a pistol cartridge) and the only violence he successfully perpetrated was on the Comet Ping Pong computer, killing it after he shot the office door.  

Mission Accomplished?

That's the podcast that the dude at the gym was referencing. He made the statement that Jones didn't jump on the pedo bandwagon until later, when he knew it was true, and was therefore unbiased.