The Finals

Pretty ugly looking second quarter for both teams so far. Looks like a backyard game right now.

Where is that zoner that hates bron bron? miss that guy

Has bron bron ever fouled out? The guy runs people over and hacks everyone but he never fouls out

Jeopardy should be on right now. 

Du Rannnnnnnt!!!!

drayomd's histrionics....

Rihanna looking hot courtside. 

gs has basically assembled an olympic team. got to hand it to management...

pretty much 2-3 teams worth of talent. 

i still think the durant thing smells funny and is bad of the product of basketball overall...

jr i'm coming up to see tool @ the gorge.

Warriors might be better than the globetrotters. 

Dude wearing a bright-ass tie dye courtside all game 0__O

dosing in good seats/playoffs would be cool

That sounds epic at the gorge. 

Yeah, bron has fouled out before.

Shitty game from both sides, execution wise. Great outcome if a GSW fan.

Definitely should not lose the series with this team, but I hope they do. Hope bron bron wins the next 4 titles and hits the game winner in each of the closeout games so the whole MJ bron talk will be put to rest.

Bron>Mj by a looooooooooong shot!

Hooper

clueless

mj was an assassin

and wanted the ball at clutch time 

ferocious  defender

If bron bron was better than mj he wouldnt of gotten schooled last night. Mj had the mental edge that bron doesnt. Bron was throwing up to many bricks last night and passing the ball when everything was on the line. Mj wouldve went give me the ball and get out the way yo. Bron might not be better than curry.

dosing in good seats/playoffs would be cool>>>>>>>>>

Oh it is

... should be used in moderation...

Win or lose, Curry is a dick.

Cavs were sloppy. Can't win any games in the NBA when you turn the ball over like that

Jeff Van Gundy checking out Rihanna's ass after a Lebron dunk was funny as hell I like that guy 

Lot of basketball left to be played, Sorry. Statiscally, the team that wins the first game only wins the whole thing around 50% of the time. As for the conversation of mj vs Lebron... Not sure if Lebron will ever pass him in rings but he will in every other category. Lebron won a championship in Cleveland...... I'll leave it at that.

Van Gundy and Jackson are terrible.

Next game I will watch with the sound muted.

Van Gundy, Jackson and Breen are awesome and I am going to listen to the next game twice as loud to offset your lack of sonic footprint 

^^They're the worst. Van Gundy is only good when he's noticeably intoxicated.

mark jackson is grating.

Maybe we can get a Steven A Smith, Reggie Miller and Marv Albert alternative booth together for you haters of the best and most experienced finals crew I bet you all would like that huh 

you think hubie brown could have clamped down on Alonzo's leg like that in the heat of the moment like that? you think Chris Webber could seamlessly weave in Rihanna comments during the game? I don't think so 

the first qtr was some great basketball, tough and edgy. after that it got boring. nobody playing defense. 

Nobody on the Cavs were playing defense...The Warriors played pretty damn good D all night...

i dont feel like they played hard D, just passable. 

The Cavs should hire a coach who is a defensive specialist like Mike Brown to whip them into shape 

Will the Cavs avoid a sweep?

That's going to be the only drama in this series.

They probably will but I wouldn't bet too much against it.

Uhollis You don't think the Warriors played good defense? Wow...Cavs shot 34.9% and had 20 turnovers...

Adam Silver looks like he just got released from a prison camp.  He needs to let his hair grow out and put on a few pounds.

2016 game one by 15, game 2 by 33

The turnovers are inexcusable, no doubt; but from a defensive perspective, GS presents an absolute fuckton of nightmare matchups, which were really obvious last night.

In transition, Curry and Thompson simply run down and fill the corners, which forces the defense to cover, leaving the inside wide open for Durant to drive in for an easy bucket. LeBron spoke to that after the game. That's a shitty problem to have, and it's going to be interesting to see how Lue attempts to deal with it.

Durant himself is a matchip nightmare. Those rotations where Love or Irving (why? Just...why?) were forced to defend him were painful to watch. Even LeBron struggled at times in that matchup. 

It's also worth noting that GS was getting away with a lot of fuckery on the floor last night. Green's arm hold on LeBron struck me as especially egregious. Better officiating should clean a lot of that up; but given Cleveland's subpar shooting, offensive rebounding, and just generally getting owned in the paint, I think it's fair to say they have their work cut out for them, even if they solve the defensive issues in Game 2.

28 of the last 29

curry is a role model - the little man can win

and a generational player

best shooter ever

and the handle ain't bad either

6 chew on your own mouthpiece

It's amazing what having Durant does in the fast break. They have to gaurd the three point threat but also need to cover Durants sensational drive to the basket. Seems like Cavs found something with the old school pick and roll. They need to slow it down and play better d. I expect a better showing for the Cavs in game 2. Isn't much of a surprise but Lebron is going to need a couple 50+ games to win this series.

lol - I see OJ, man, and he looks scared.

>>>>Lebron is going to need a couple 50+ games to win this series.

Agreed. It's on LeBron and Kyrie Irving to carry the scoring load; but they also need Love to get sharp and start hitting that 3 point shot he's been having success with throughout the season. JR Smith actually being a factor would also be a plus. 

I don't think the answer for Cleveland is trying to match the 56 GS put up in the paint last night; the answer is limiting Durant inside and bringing that guady number back down to earth. Stay on Curry, and just let Thompson take his shots outside. Dude is ice cold on offense. Let him clang up 3's all night, while containing (that's a relative term, obviously) Curry and Durant.

If I'm the Cav's, that's how I move into Game 2. I also think a case needs to be made for some old school hard fouls in the paint by Cleveland. Everybody knows the Warriors are soft as warm play-doh when it comes down to it. Couple of good hard fouls sends the right message and slows the game down a bit. 

>>>> Couple of good hard fouls sends the right message and slows the game down a bit. 

What's the difference between that and the egregious fuckery that you pointed out with Draymond 

Sorry Sorry

MJ was schooled plenty. Had plenty of shitty games and believe it or not was kind of a ball hog. Much like Westbrook, took a ton of shots to get his stats.

Bron bron's efficiency is much better!

Bron much better defender.

Bron better passer. Assist.

Bron better rebounder.

Bron all around as a player is better.

Ok, mj has the title count. Big deal. Not comparing bulls to heat/cavs. Just the two players.

Bron > mj

Lltd

Smh

>>>What's the difference between that and the egregious fuckery that you pointed out with Draymond

Green was on offense when the fuckery I mentioned occurred. 

I'm not going to bemoan Green (or anybody) laying a hard foul on a guy that gets called correctly.

I see what you mean Mark 

If I had to pick a player to make a clutch shot to win a big game, history says pass the ball to Jordan, not Lebron. 

MJ > Lebron 

Yeah, there was really no intensity last night on either side of the ball. Obviously, The Warriors did there part and were efficient but there was no yelling or pushing or people getting in anyone's faces. I don't think there is any doubt they need to disrupt Durant. Somebody has to pee in his cereal. Last night Lebron was out there shaking hands and shit. That's fine for the first game but they better get out there on Sunday and get their hands dirty.

Dub

Badger, going back to the game sevens that Lebron had been a part of and that game six angainst the Spurs when they overcame and won in seven games, Lebron earned his clutch stripes. He's yet to be in a position like Jordon wher he could end a finals with a single jump shot. Hard to tell.

Everyone needs to STFU regarding the LeBron vs. Jordan comparisons.  It's actually ruining the thread. 

Go listen to some fat boys jr

Lebron's hair grew back vs. Jordon who just decided t schick razor it for the rest of his life.

Fat Boys you say?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jJewbFZHI34

Jordan vs James?     I'll take Jordan.

Game 3 tonight at 8 pm eastern.

 It's a must win for the Predators. 

^ I agree, Jambone. Makes me lose interest. Should be one day rest. I know they're my just trying to milk the finals for every penny, but just play the damn game already.

Blame Vegas. 

Much more competitive game tonight. Lebron looks like that four day rest did him a solid. Both teams have yet to concentrate on defense yet.

Great first half but warriors outplayed the Cavs badly in the 3rd. Lebron hasn't looked right since Curry ran around him twice and then made that layup. 

It will be interesting to see if the Cavs put up a fight in the 4th

Warriors crushing it!

Had the car radio on scan when I heard someone introduce Carlos Santana.  Locked in the station and was surprised to hear him play The Star-Spangled Banner (I'm still getting used to sports on FM radio in this market).

And that was the extent of my interest in the Finals.

But, by all means, go [YOUR TEAM].

warriors are one of the best teams ever assembled right now, and Lebron honestly has nobody that can help out for an entire game.

its fun to watch for a minute, and then it gets boring, and that stinks because I love the NBA. 

go Predators! 

Def pretty boring to watch. It'd be nice to see a good game. Last year the Cavs were down 2-0 as well. I guess it depends on whether or  not they feel like getting embarrassed on national tv for not at this point. Hopefully they can at least win game 3 and make the series interesting. Not gonna win many games when you let the opposition score 130+. They need to sit down and study some tape. Durant aside, they couldn't stop anyone defensively last night.

The 2016/2017 Warriors were the best offensive team (by a wide margin) and the second best defensive team (by a narrow margin) and they were able to accomplish all that even with KD missing 24 games, so studying tape isn't going to help the Cavs... the things that will turn this series around are key injuries or ejection[s], and/or Durant and Curry both going totally cold for the next week.

^Watching tape and correcting their mistakes will always help. I remember all the warriors fans were on their high horse last year around his time and then they got embarrassed by blowin a 3-1 lead. I guess they can try and blame it on green being out one game. Bottom line is, warriors would get creamed by some of the great teams back in the day. Showtime, the bulls, Karl Maloney jazz, Shaq and kobes lakers. David Robinson Spurs. It would be fun to watch. Really hope Lebron finds away and golden state crumbles or has to go buy another great player to win next year. Cavs toughened up last year. That's what hey need to do again. The warriors are soft aside from green. Cavs gotta body them up.

pretend and flail shooting from half court...

fucking trash, absolute trash.

kudos to their fan base, but this team is bad for the sport...

>>>soft aside from green. Cavs gotta body them up.

let me play devils advocate and say that Klay Thompson doesn't appear soft at all to me in spite of not being the biggest guy. I also would not call David West soft in the least. Their centers might not be Shaq but they are hardly small soft guys. And if you look down the ban h you'll see Matt Barnes. You might want to ask Derek Fischer if he thinks Barnes is soft. 

As for players heaving up half court shots after being fouled at half court, I find much Moore fault with the player who is intentionally fouling a player at half court instead of properly defending them. 

everyone leave fish alone and count his rings.

barnes, west, iggy, zaza ARE tough experienced vets. and klay is maybe my favorite player on the team.

point taken badger but i disagree

What I don't like about the offensive player when they fling up those shots when they get fouled at half court is that it looks ridiculous. They're grown men and they shouldn't be theatrically flailing about like that like some South American soccer player. It's undignified. 

Its also the right play if you can get three free throws. 

And im glad D Fish is ok I hear he had a rough ride the other night. 

I bet Matt Barnes would be a fun guy to club with. 

Charles Barkley knows where the real action is at:

"The playoffs in hockey have been amazing. I'm not breaking earth-shattering news, our NBA playoffs have not been very good," Barkley said. "There is nothing more nerve-wracking than Stanley Cup overtime hockey. It's the craziest thing you're ever going to see. I just love the sport."

>>Bottom line is, warriors would get creamed by some of the great teams back in the day

I doubt it.   What happened last year was a lot of former players saying exactly that.....what's happening this year is a lot of former players saying this is one of the top teams in history.   I think people want to belittle the W's for various reasons but they are showing they are that good.   Game three will truly tell.    

I will say imo the refs are really letting them play which has made it more interesting and kept some flow to the game.   Curry got tossed to the ground after being bumped hard 5 seconds earlier and there was no call on either.    I hope the reffing continues as it is a nice balance of drawing the line when it's obvious or intentional and letting them rough it out.   

>>>pretend and flail shooting from half court...

I mostly agree with you but unfortunately Curry can hit that shot and has multiple times.   I imagine the rules will change because of it but technically it's the right call based on the rules.   Personally I hate the jumping into someone to draw the foul.  They've tried to correct that one but it basically destroyed the game (energy and integrity)   

>>>everyone leave fish alone and count his rings.

Just because you have rings, it doesn't mean you aren't a big Dbag.   

Lebron looked whooped during the third quarter.  While he played it off after the game he looked exhausted and it showed in the fourth when he started missing open jumpers.    I appreciate the W's making him pay for his whining too.   It's pathetic.  3 seconds of whining and he turns around to see the ball going in the hoop down the court.   Gotta focus on the game, not on the calls.       

Cavs played bad. They looked tired, yea. Got caught playing the warriors game. IMO, they are ruining the great game of basketball. They just run down the court and fire threes. Yes, they're great shooters but their playing style couldn't be any more boring to watch. Everybody talking about this is one the greatest teams vet assembled but they still haven't won anything. I just laugh at people who think they could beat the showtime lakers in a 7 game series. Get a grip man

>>.IMO, they are ruining the great game of basketball.

Not sure how that is.   They play team ball more than anyone except the Spurs.   They don't just fire threes, in game one they dominated the paint.   And their defense is crazy to watch.  I'm not convinced Cleveland is actually playing that poorly.   They are moving the ball well but W's switch better.   

Are the splash brothers still related to each other? Are they splashing as much as before? 

>>>I'm not convinced Cleveland is actually playing that poorly.  

Agreed.  In game 2 James and Love both scored above their regular season averages, but Kyrie and the roll players have been held below their averages in both games... of course if they bust out collectively the games will be closer, but that will not be easy if the Warriors continue to play at their normal high defensive level. 

>>>They are moving the ball well but W's switch better.

And not only do they switch effectively, they have the personnel to not end up in mis-matches when the do switch (unlike every other team the Cavs faced in the playoffs).

Another defensive stat people tend to overlook is that the Warriors were number one in defending against the 3 pointer (regular season), so even though the Cavs were better than the Warriors at shooting the 3, they did not face any teams in the playoffs that defend it like GS has. 

So Cavs 3 point shooters (who have become used to shooting more open 3's) are now being challenged, and from what I've observed so far, they tend to pass rather than shoot a contested 3.  I wouldn't be surprised if they attempt more contested 3's in the upcoming games just to try to keep pace with Warriors' offense.

^I think that would be the wrong idea. They have to play their game like they did the last three games of the finals last year. They can't win by trying to play the warriors game. If they do they won't win a game. 

Personally, I just think that it's boring to watch a team just run down the court and hit threes a few steps away from half court. There used to be a great and institution of plays like the back door, the pick and roll, the midcourt screen, drive and dish(which won't ever go away), but the warriors just run up the court and shoot. Their defense hasn't been anything special at all. They just run the court and shoot threes. They're great shooters, yes. It's just boring to watch that kind of style of basketball, IMO. Many teams will try and copy it.

If Charles Oakley was still playing, he would just lay Durant and Curry out cold pwith picks.  Problem solved.

^Pretty much. 

Does anyone really think that Draymond Green or anyone could cover Shaq in his prime? 

Anyone who really thinks Oakley would be allowed to lay someone out and remain in the league, or that Shaq would be allowed to elbow defenders in the face or camp out in the paint indefinitely is totally out of touch with the current NBA... it's just not the same game, so it's kind of silly to debate it.

That said, I would actually enjoy seeing Shaq in his prime try to play in today's game against either the Cav's or Warriors smaller, faster, deadly outside shooting lineups... guarding a Lebron or a Durant out in space, or getting switched onto a Kyrie or a Steph would make for a never ending supply of Shaqtin a fool footage.lol

Then again, even in their primes, those guys were never in very good aerobic condition, so they'd be pretty useless after 5 or 6 minutes of constantly running the floor, attempting to play defense on top of trying to score, screen and pass... hell, even the great Lebron is getting totally winded keeping that type of pace.

"Their defense hasn't been anything special at all"

is this a blind man's  koan / joke or something?

lol lol lol

look up the shooting percentage of the players Klay has been guarding ion the playoffs, and update your posts

re only 3 pointers" do assists, and drives to the basket count?

comparing eras and who would beat who is academic art best, just imaginations running wild... - the older big guys are a bit grumpy - go watch hockey

the teams don't make the rules, they just maximize their performances within them

and steph curry has by far the most hockey assists in the league , and forces the spacing that leads to OFFENSE, and possibly contributing more than Kevin : Streph >> Durant >> Lebron

Is an average of 98 points per game good defense in 2017?

What would really funny Is watching Shaq drive in the lane against Curry, Thomson and Green. It would be a college of dunks and them hanging on Shaqs shoulders and getting knocked to the ground without him having to throw any elbows. And Kobe would just dismantle their defense from inside the arch. Would really love to see that.

you really don't understand how the league has changed, do you?  all three of those guys would easily be able to get in position to take the charge and Shaq would either end up benched with foul trouble, or ejected for multiple flagrants.

On the other hand players like Kobe, Duncan and MJ would all thrive in today's NBA, but of course they would all want to play for GS.

I think you're completely off about that, Moogly. Those guys wouldn't be getting in the lane because they would be fouling Shaq way more than he would be called for charges. Shaq had moves down low. That lakers team would cause all kinds of match ups problems that would drive Kerr crazy. If Lebron had an inside presence to go with him and Irving then this series would be 2-0 right now

yes, the best defense in 2017

connect the dots son, it's not that hard

shaq?//  really ...........

you said 'drive the lane', which is not the same as 'moves down low', which for Shaq, were elbows and what are now 3 second violations more times than not...

anyways, done with this inane debate... what's not debatable is that the Warriors are playing better than any team right now, and if that continues, round three of what has been a pretty damn good Finals matchup over the past few years should go their way. 

abolish the 3 pt. line.

best get ready for the impending invasion of Curry clones... all the smaller sized kids at the local courts practice crossover dribbles and 3 pointers.

shaq elbowed for sure. but for every elbow, he was probably fouled 8 times...

ps. any team with a real center would stand a chance against gs.

the game was actually invented in what is now known as Mexico... and at the end of the championships, one of the teams got sacrificed (can't remember whether it was the winners or losers).

come to think of it, that system would make for much better parity...

>>>ps. any team with a real center

(((Timofey)))

http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4017837/ivica-zubac

Gotta love Warriors fans. Counting their eggs before they've hatched (again). Comparing a Warriors team that's only won one championship to the greats. Comical stuff. 

Are you an acid casualty, Timpane?

Out of the 3 Warriors fans participating in this thread (Joel, Ro and myself), not one has 'counted their eggs' or compared the Warriors to any of the great teams of the past.

part of my game plan would be to get green into foul trouble.

a little hassling/trolling and the dude would loose his shit.

does clevland have an expendable uncoordinated white guy?

GO  WARRIORS!!!

that happened in game two, Turtle... Green had four quick fouls, but the Warriors replaced him first with Iggy and later with Durant, so there wasn't much if any drop off in overall team defense (and Green kept his shit together).

Well before James Naismith invented the game of basketball in 1891, the peoples of Mesoamerica had a very similar game where the point was to get a ball though a hoop. The games origins date back as far as one-thousand years before the common era.... The game is played with a rubber ball called an ulama and depending on the region can either be played like soccer were a ball must go into a ground goal or like basketball were the ball must go through a stone “hoop” mounted above the playing court.

http://nbahoopsonline.com/Articles/2008-09/Mesoamericanball.html 

Lol, Moogly. Casualties don't make it back. I consider myself a Purple Heart survivor. 

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/reports-cavaliers-locker-room-smelled-...

I have no doubt that JR Smith would smoke weed in the locker room

The stanley cup has been worth the price of admission. That Nashville crowd can rock the party!!!

JR probably has a vape pen on the bench.

Out of all the players bron bron could of had on the team and he picks jr and shumpart

>>>Is an average of 98 points per game good defense in 2017?

Points don't define defense success if the offense is lightning.  To that point, as a huge ...huuuge even, Shaq fan, he would be obliterated by this team.  They are too fast. 

>> any team with a real center would stand a chance against gs.

Qualify real center.  Are their any active real centers?  I still say it wouldn't matter.  

>>>part of my game plan would be to get green into foul trouble.

This guy is a hot mess.   I'm tired of his shtick.   He will get a technical in the next game.  It is his destiny.  

>>abolish the 3 pt. line.

I could see pushing it back.  Curry has redefined it and others are following.   But I wouldn't say get rid of it because what Reggie did to the knicks was too awesome. 

i haven't watched an nba game since the sonics ended, so i have no idea what's going on these days, but can someone clarify something for me? i see these final scores of 130 to 100 and whatever that end in regulation and all i can think is that the defense must suck these days. i know gs is known for the 3's and that 3's are a bigger thing in general these days. but what is it? better scoring or lack of defense? the only time i used to see final scores like that in the 80's, 90's and early 2000's was from games that went to multiple overtimes.

..>Qualify real center.  Are their any active real centers?<

hakeem

no, not really.

>and he picks jr and shumpart<

i know, pretty bad.

oh and i like livingston. him and klay the only 2.

Reporters should start asking Cavs if they shouldn't be paid because they absolutely suck. 

How much do they make? And they get paid again next year and just hope they'll win east again. 

>How much do they make?<

1 game = 5 yrs of pool cleaning salary.

why all the hate turts?

When do they start playing in SF? Will they change the bridge logo? 

>>>why all the hate turts<<<

He's bored, and understandably sports bitter.

His football team has just deserted their home despite a quality & loyal fan base.

His basketball team is terrible.

And I'm not sure he knows this, but Jerry West has interviewed with the Clippers for a similar but more powerful "advisor" position than he's had with the Warriors.

IMO Jerry West has had a very significant impact on the building of this current Warriors beast. His hands are all over this Warriors team, and if he goes to the Clippers he's bound to make them better too.

And Turtle hates the Clippers.

Turtle's boredom may soon consume him.

SF warriors had the bridge logo before Oakland

does he love black mamba as a person?

OMG

I have been holding my breath 

whatta game!

Curry with the free throws 

unbelievable 

Finally got a good game tonight. 

Given the first two games of the series, I guess we should be happy.

Ouch.

I wonder why Durant decided to go to the Warriors?

Maybe because he finally wanted to win a game like that instead of losing it.

CLUTCH shot.

Dagger shot.

Championship shot.

And people don't understand why a person would want that, instead of the other that he was used to, that he was so tired of.

Greatness is greatness.

On it goes.

NICE win!

Nice TEAM win!

Go Warriors!!!

BTW, Kyrie Erving is fucking amazing.

LeBron James is a ringer. So is Kevin Durant.

It's the Erving's and the Curry's and the Green's and the Other Guys that blow my mind.

GW!

Lance. It's Kyrie Irving.

Not too late to edit.

Oh man, you guys are TRYING SO HARD!!!

Maybe as hard as Cleveland tried.

OK, It's Irving.

Whatever.

He's a great player.

Go Warriors!

Exactly. Details schmetails.

It's not like you don't have any idea what you're talking about or anything.

lebron choked.

Wow! That was exciting (and I appreciated the final score)!

>>> It's the Irving's and the Curry's and the Green's and the Other Guys that blow my mind. <<<  Yes.

GO WARRIORS! GO WARRIORS! GO WARRIORS! GO WARRIORS! GO WARRIORS! GO WARRIORS!
GO WARRIORS! GO WARRIORS! GO WARRIORS! GO WARRIORS! GO WARRIORS! GO WARRIORS!
GO WARRIORS! GO WARRIORS! GO WARRIORS! GO WARRIORS! GO WARRIORS! GO WARRIORS!
GO WARRIORS! GO WARRIORS! GO WARRIORS! GO WARRIORS! GO WARRIORS! GO WARRIORS!
GO WARRIORS! GO WARRIORS! GO WARRIORS! GO WARRIORS! GO WARRIORS! GO WARRIORS!
GO WARRIORS! GO WARRIORS! GO WARRIORS! GO WARRIORS! GO WARRIORS! GO WARRIORS!

What are your thoughts on the Warriors' transition game tonight, Judit?

You guys keep giving it your best effort.

Details.

Choke.

Whatever.

Great is great.

Why do we always look to minimize that?

Especially when we see it before us, and not just when we're waxing nostalgic.

Food for thought.

And I'm not talking basketball,  which I'm on record as not knowing well; I'm talking sport - human effort - greatness... THAT I know about.

The Warriors are a great team.

Cleveland is good too.

This year, maybe just not good enough.

But then again, that's what I said last year.

But then last year they didn't have an extra ringer, added because they were a good enough organization to make it work (and because Curry is healthy this year).

Carry on boys.

And go Warriors!

From a Cavs fan I would like to congratulate the GSW and their fans on a great season!

Still one to go (I'm conceding this year's title like I did last year until they had the biggest CHOKE job in history....lol). Again????? I would love nothing more but I think stever would not be able to handle another melty.....Haha! Unfortunately not happening this year:(

Great team! 

Not sure what's up with their cap space and signings but would love to meet up again next year.

That's if they can get past the SAS! Who by the way would have killed them this year if...well....you know....

Can't wait for the 82 game preseason to get over with so we can play some meaningful games. SMH!

Here's to 2018!!!!!!!!!!

Love Peace and Unicorns to All

Wow with 1:20 remaining and the Cavs up 4 I thought they might pull it out but they really shit the bed down the stretch. 

Im guessing Lebron will eat shit for one more season in Cleveland before wrapping his career up in LA. Then the Bucks will commence their domination of the Eastern Conference. 

Huge Game 5 tomorrow in the only Finals worth following right now.

>>> What are your thoughts on the Warriors' transition game tonight, Judit? <<<

Thoughts? I have no thoughts about it, Mark, except to say that I loved the fine play I saw much of the time. I'm not analytical. I didn't watch the whole game, just most of the second half. Those guys are good, and it's easy to agree with Lance's assessment of Irving. Who wouldn't?

What are your thoughts on the Warriors' transition game tonight, Mark?

I thought the Warriors looked unsurprisingly lethal in transition, but I do think the Cavs had more answers tonight defensively than they did in Game 1 or 2.

Did the Jefferson/Durant matchup surprise you tonight, Judit? Jefferson was the guy wearing the white jersey, and Durant was the guy wearing the blue jersey, FYI. 

Well, the Nets did move to Brooklyn, Jambone.

>>>>Huge Game 5 tomorrow in the only Finals worth following right now.

for real

GO PREDS! 

^Indeed!

Go Preds! ( Flyers fan here, hate the Pens)

still a bunch of babies on that team, and their fans are a bunch of smug little baby bitches. 

ypu know, like lance. 

Hell yeah Preds!

Makes me want to go to Primanti Bros. wearing a Subban jersey with a bottle of Listerine screaming WUT!

NHL playoffs have been much more compelling.

Go Predators!

>Why do we always look to minimize that?<

they have assembled probably the most talented team 1-15 (12?) i have seen. they are great, congrats.

lebron passed repeatedly to korver and jr in the clutch. which, would be scary if he had the kobe killer instinct and not defer when its on the line...

What happens to "The Land" if the Cavs fold and don't defend it? I'm not sure if the Warriors really want anything there. 

Maybe the Cleveland Clinic that place is supposed to be good but they'll probably not touch most of it don't you think? 

I guess time will tell OR we will get the first 3-0 comeback in NBA finals history. One way or the other, It's On.

"Did the Jefferson/Durant matchup surprise you tonight, Judit? Jefferson was the guy wearing the white jersey, and Durant was the guy wearing the blue jersey, FYI." Are you always such a snide asshole? Or only when your team loses?

The Cavs aren't "my team." I'm just a fan of basketball.

But to answer your question, yes.

sonomajon, Mark likes to "school" people if he feels they're deficient in knowledge or style. This was an excellent example of his being condescending and snide. The only good thing I can say about it is, he does it equally to men and women zoners.

Which once again brings up the age old question, is it better to be a jerk to everybody or just to specific groups that you hate. 

And of course the answer is that we are not sure and we will have to get back to you on that one. 

sociopath [soh-see-uh-path, soh-shee-] noun Psychiatry.

a person with a psychopathic personality whose behavior is antisocial, often criminal, and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience.

Hockey fan

>>>The only good thing I can say about it is, he does it equally to men and women zoners

Obviously we're all working towards the same egalitarian principles here, Judit. That should give everyone the feels.

I'm not on here enough to know the intricacies of or deficiencies of anyones psychological profile...But if that's the case St.Mark I would hope that this is your online persona and in your real life you actually have people that like you! Cavs gave all they had...do they wanna or can they give more? Probably not...

The only question it appears now is can the W's finish the sweep.   If that, their only mark on the record would be the Spurs game they should have lost.    With that said, I hope they pull it out.   It will be interesting to see Cleveland scramble this summer and multiple teams try to put together super teams.   

Great to see all of the key players relatively healthy for the Finals (as far as I know).

And to see that the crowd, refs, etc, could not get rid of Green so easily. 

Talk about a shiv to the jugular...Cavs got outscored 11-0 to end the game! 

Cavs are going to give it there all on Friday 

they could possibly win 

actually, one would presume so 

Durant plays with such sportsmanship 

draymond green does not 

I blame him for much of the loss of moment last year

hope he keeps it together on Friday 

At least last night was a good game. As for the series, it really couldn't be any more boring. Terrible.

This game 5 ain't very exciting, either

no goals at all 

best part

gretzsky quote, roughly 

if the fights weren't real 

i would have been in more of them 

lol

^Haha

First Stanley cup game I tune into tonight and the worst game of the series. This is why I don't watch much sports.

Well he has shut them down from scoring at all 

impressive 

Impressive, sure. Still a 10 on the boring scale.

Getting excited about watching those guys in blue and white jerseys.

Defense, offense, GO WARRIORS!!!

We just witnessed the highest scoring half in Finals history.

WOW!

Cavs drop 86 in first half

and the Warriors are not out of this game

haha

Win or lose their is now way this warriors team has one of the best defenses ever. They just let up 86 points in a half.

Uncle Drew showing out.

Warriors scored 89 points in Game seven last year.

It's official and no going back. Durant is a bitch.

And so it begins?

Damn. If the Cavs needed confidence then I think scoring 137 against the supposed best defense in the league should do that. Let's see if they can carry this over to game. If they go back to Cleveland at 3/2, well then we have ourselves a series.

Wow! The Cavs were so exciting!

GO WARRIORS game 5!!!!!

LBJ with 9 trip-doubs in finals history and people say mj way better. Pffftttt!!!!!

Turns out the key to beating this GS team is putting up a metric fuckton of points.

Crazy.

I guess white guys aren't even allowed to play in garbage time anymore. 

so let me get this right....green gets 2 techs....no t..no ejection.

pachullia, steps on another foot then punches! shumpert in the nuts!!? and NO call? 

FUCK that guy.

disgusting display by the warriors,  and fuck kd too.

you guys were cute when you won for the 1st time in 40 years, that was cool.

but i will ask again....you all gs folks, other than lltd, were on board when it was b davis over the mavs? or the run tmc days?

thought so.

hall, i take some of the kyrie back. he is elite...still taking russel first.

There's a lot to unpack from that scrum in the 3rd.

That Cleveland fan sitting courtside was holding a pretty strong frame out there. I enjoyed the swag he exhibited while being escorted out of the arena. Good stuff.

haven't disliked a player, (green), like that since bill lambier. 

they both are good though....

Beautifully written turtle. 

>>>>but i will ask again....you all gs folks, other than lltd, were on board when it was b davis over the mavs? or the run tmc days?

Those days were better than the Adelman/Carlesimo years, that's for sure.  I'll admit that I jumped ship around that time (or a little before) to see a young Jason Kidd play with the Cal Bears.  Those games were fun.

i still have mad love for you skudebro.

Cavs are bringin' this street fight from Cleveland to Oakland yo'... 

           1      2        3         4         F

GS     33     35      28      20      116

CLE   49*    37     29      22      137   *NBA Record Most Points in a Playoff Quarter

I agree about scoring a lot of points, Mark. But I think the key is smacking the warriors around a bit and making them look soft. The Cavs were able to exploit their soft side last year, and he warriors went cold the last three games. If Lebron and co can get in their heads again then we could be in for a long ride. For the warriors it almost feels like they have to finish it in  Game 5. Goin to Cleveland at 3-2 would have to be mentally exhausting for them.

I agree, Timpane. The pressure is clearly on GS to close this series out at home on Monday.

If the Cavs can smack 'em around and drop the kind of points we saw last night, we might have a series.

Jambone

They don't need all those players. All they need is one point more then GS on Monday, then it's game on!

Will they do it? Who knows? I wouldn't bet on it but you never know. I hope they do. 

Make more baskets. 

That game last night was CRAZY

it was like an all star game and a playoff game had a kid. 49 points in a quarter, Lebron throwing himself alley-oops off the backboard, the refs not giving a shit - all it was missing was the awful 30 minute half time show. 

>>you guys were cute when you won for the 1st time

Says the lakers fan.   God forbid a team win twice in 40 years other than the lakers.   Ball isn't going to save that team...better hope the lakers don't draft him.   I'd take Jackson.   

Refs were a mess that game.   I think three w's had 2 fouls with a couple minutes remaining in the first.   A lot of non calls and then some ticky tack fouls.  Just be consistent.   

To be fair...we are right where we were last year.  I'm sure everyone is thinking about it.   Monday will be a throw down.  

Yes the cavs have started playing rougher, picking fights.   Not sure how that will work on the away court.    

Green is just a douche.  His schtick is so old.  Get a grip man.   

I think the Cavs should get Richard Jefferson to make fun of Durant & Curry's facial hair all night.

Really get in they heads like that.

Irving should do what he did last year to Curry. Make him look like a chump on defense and drain shots right his face all day. Curry was lost last year in the final three games. Cold as ice to boot.

^Crazy that Nashville has a hockey team. Strange.

^Watching. Great game. Much more exciting than the NBA finals.

Take this hockey bullshit of the thread.

>>>And so it begins?

yep, 3 - 1 all over again... Cav's def in the Warriors' heads. 

>>>says the Lakers fan

lol

remember when we used your team as a practice team for "40 years"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsCyC1dZiN8