First Jerseyland Weather Episode -- Winter Begins !!
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Sycamore Slough
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So yesterday (Thursday 11/15) we got our first dose of inclement Winter climate change.
Early morning started out a bit overcast, then by 11 AM we had a few snowflakes, eventually getting serious.
Before dark we got about 3" on the ground, then some freezing sleet and Ice pellets.
Then it rained all night.
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Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly
NJ DOT and the governor
NJ DOT and the governor showed astounding incompetence during this storm. The worst of which led to children staying overnight at their school in West Orange.
https://abc7ny.com/weather/snow-forces-some-nj-students-to-stay-overnigh...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Sycamore Slough
Seems harmless enough for the
Seems harmless enough for the Kiddoes to have a sleepover at School. Might be the most interesting thing that ever happened there.
Jerseyland is generally pretty incompetent dealing w/ even minor snowfalls. You'd think we're Arkansas or Georgia seeing how ill-prepared the road crews are.
Plus there are so many f*king people trying to get on the Turnpike & Parkway at any time, it's awful even with clear Weather.
A lot of the newer (20-25 years) Migrants here came from Central America and Pakistan, and are not familiar with Snow or even "Driving".
So that throws a monkey - wrench into the equation, especially since even native-born kids only know Video Games and can't change a tire.
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There are so many things
There are so many things wrong with your post that I can't even respond to them, however,
Seems harmless enough for the Kiddoes to have a sleepover at School. Might be the most interesting thing that ever happened there.
Stick to raising your dog, first off some kiddoes as you call them have never been away from their parents for a night, second the techers have spent 8-10 hours in school and now have to discipline the kids overnight? Lastly maybe they want to sleep in their own warm beds
A story in yesterdays NY papers about special needs kids stuck on the bus and not getting home until 4:00 in the morning. One mom left work and tried to drive, finally parked her car on the sidewalk, and walked to h her FIVE YEAR OLD who was crying . Forget the fact about food and bathrooms
I won't even start on the racist comments about immigrants who can't drive.
Go let your dog out to take a shit and leave the parenting to others
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There are so many things
There are so many things wrong with your post that I can't even respond to them, however,
Seems harmless enough for the Kiddoes to have a sleepover at School. Might be the most interesting thing that ever happened there.
Stick to raising your dog, first off some kiddoes as you call them have never been away from their parents for a night, second the techers have spent 8-10 hours in school and now have to discipline the kids overnight? Lastly maybe they want to sleep in their own warm beds
A story in yesterdays NY papers about special needs kids stuck on the bus and not getting home until 4:00 in the morning. One mom left work and tried to drive, finally parked her car on the sidewalk, and walked to h her FIVE YEAR OLD who was crying . Forget the fact about food and bathrooms
Go let your dog out to take a shit and leave the parenting to others
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sorry for double post, don't
sorry for double post, don't know how to delete the second one
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Dude, my dog already went
Dude, my dog already went out and did his natural calling about Dawn.
Go sedate yourself if you don't respect my Valid opinions.
Sorry if I say that people from tropical / desert climates don't have the skills to drive in snow. Probably they don't know how to drive at all, really.
That is the actual truth, so no I'm not sorry for spelling it out. It is you who be the "Racist".
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Ever stop to think that
Ever stop to think that people from tropical / desert climates drive not up to your standards because they are afraid of being pulled over just because they are from tropical / desert climates.
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https://cars.usnews.com/cars
https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/driving-in-snow-tips-for-staying-safe
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly
Stu, I've lived in Jersey for
Stu, I've lived in Jersey for almost 20 years now, and I've been through a few storms here. A couple of those storms brought more than a foot of snow. Nobody slept overnight in schools during any other storm.
I drive the parkway at rush hour, I've driven it during and after snow storms, never experienced like the other day.
The population of the area has not increased so significantly as to alter the nature of our rush hour traffic.
This was a complete failure by the Murphy administration and NJ DOT. Their incompetence endangered people's lives. Heads should roll.
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EBY -- I often DO stop to
EBY -- I often DO stop to think about incompetent drivers of all stripes and colors, and respect that they come from other Climates where they did not have the opportunities for proper Driving Education.
So I was a Driving Instructor back in the mid-1980's, and also drove Limousines to and from the Major East Coast airports (EWR, JFK, PHL). All of that was completely legal, and I had the proper certifications.
Never got stuck or in a Wreck as a professional driver. I admit that I've pushed the boundaries of Snow-Driving a few times, like not chaining-up going over Mountain passes through the Cascades during Winter. But that never led to any hazards to myself or other motorists.
Living in Montrêal, Quebec for 5 years while attending University showed me that those Canucks are extremely competent about clearing the Snow off the roads. They are excellent with their Snow-clearing skills.
You can yell "Racist !!" at the top of your lungs, but actually Canadians are great with clearing Snow.
They are better at Hockey as well.
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Looks like Stu stayed up all
Looks like Stu stayed up all nite drinking and masturbating to bestialty porn.
Again.
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>Living in Montrêal, Quebec
>Living in Montrêal, Quebec for 5 years while attending University showed me that those Canucks are extremely competent about clearing the Snow off the roads. They are excellent with their Snow-clearing skills<
You are correct, Stu. Too bad those at the NJ DOT and Governor Murphy failed to show such competence.
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There are some amazingly
There are some amazingly funny jokes in this thread.
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Lumber --
Lumber --
Saw your post after I posted. The perils of a dynamic message board, where people actually post.
I agree with you that NJDOT should be better at their game, but they have always sucked at Snow-clearing.
That Winter-Mix storm hit my area around 11 AM, and dropped a lot of Powder before dark. I was up at the barn from 8 AM until Noon dealing with some Well-contractors repairing a faulty underground line.
They took care of it before Heavy flakes fell. Before dark, I took pet Hüsky for a stroll through the woods.
After dark, the storm changed to sleet and freezing Ice pellets. Not a pretty road condition by any means.
Then it rained all night, and barely a trace of Snow remained.
My opinion is that when people see forecasts of Heavy Weather, including Snow & Ice, it's best to stay home and not send the Kids to School.
Those big Yellow buses don't have great traction, and the Bus drivers are not trained for Snow in this part of the world.
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>My opinion is that when
>My opinion is that when people see forecasts of Heavy Weather, including Snow & Ice, it's best to stay home and not send the Kids to School.<
I agree.
I know the timing and nature of the storm. The response was pathetic. Heads should roll!
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We were forecast about 2"
We were forecast about 2" here in NJ central. Got more like 3" - 3 1/2" before it turned to sleet / ice pellets.
What I heard from actual witnesses is that North NJ got 4" - 5". GWB was completely fucked.
A pal who commutes to / from Jersey City for his job (Community College Teacher) explained how his 1.25 hour drive became 4-5 hours.
He's there about 7 AM until 4 PM typically, but 'the authorities' called it a Snow Day around 2 PM.
So to leave Jersey City you have to go through some bridges and / or tunnels. All those things were totally clogged.
Then the entrance to NJ Turnpike as well. He is a level-headed fellow, but expressed his strong frustration with the whole scene.
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My winter driving tips:
My winter driving tips:
1. Be 4-5 seconds behind the vehicle in front of you.
2. If the person behind you is riding your ass, let him pass you, and then be 4-5 seconds behind them.
3. AWD/4WD does nothing on ice.
4. All season tires ARE NOT snow tires
5. Montreal has nowhere near the population density of the NY/NJ metro area, and using it as a litmus test is just faulty.
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"...5. Montreal has nowhere
"...5. Montreal has nowhere near the population density of the NY/NJ metro area, and using it as a litmus test is just faulty...."
You rather misunderstood what I stated.
To repeat, the people there are better at clearing snow and driving on snow.
There is no "Litmus Test". They (Those Canadians) are better in general dealing with Snow on public roads.
Anyway you live in the rural area of Vermont or Mass, and probably have no practical experience driving in or around NYC and North Jersey.
I doubt that you have spent much time driving around Montreal in the Winter, or even walking there. Why should anyone believe your uninformed blather over experienced opinion ?
It's cute that you like to be debateful, but you don't really know what the hell you are talking about.
Basically, shut yer Stupid fat Mouth unless you have some Realistic advice. You are the fat little kid in 3rd grade pretending to run the Circus.
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Jesus, Stu, you’re fucking
Jesus, Stu, you’re fucking nuts. Go chop some wood or something.
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Today we are witnessing a
Today we are witnessing a person who is isolating themselves from everyone around them. That person professes that he has no emotions, but the reality is that he does, but can’t handle them and they come out as anger.
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So not having any realistic
So not having any realistic frame of reference, you resort to Pop Psychology you learned from TV and magazines. BrainK, that's fine for you, but I don't buy it.
I like most of your amateur driving tips, really. You seem to have a grasp on a lot of Winter driving technique in your particular microclimate.
Still have to say that the Canadians are far Superior in Snow-Clearing compared to NYC area. Since I've experienced both scenarios over some decades, and you have not; well let's say you are welcome to your belief system, but you're still wrong.
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This was a complete failure
Yes...heads will roll. But only because there has to be the "appearance" of the governor doing something. I was had to make a trip to Long Island the day before the storm and DOT was heavily treating the roads. When I returned I took the car directly to the car wash because there was so much melt mixture on the car that it looked like I had spent a whole winter winter driving without a rinse down.
Before the storm started, I was outside taking care of leaves for the final town collection. I got most of the leave to the edge of the property when it started to snow. In the next 30 mins at least 2 inches fell and then mixed with sleet/freezing rain. The weather came on a lot faster and harder than all the predictions/models indicated. Mother Nature obviously doesn't pay heed to those predictions. As soon as I came inside, I called my housemate. Told her that she should beat tracks and make it home now because it was going to be ugly. Unfortunately she had to finish some filings for the court and didn't leave until almost 2 hours later. Her 4.7 mile ride home on county and local roads took her 5 hrs 45 mins. Everything was so gridlocked that plows and salters could not go anywhere. Interstate closures, houses burning to the ground, accidents all over the place and stuck vehicles made sure the works didn't get ungummed until the next morning.
As for snow stuff in Canada, the main reason people don't have as tough of a time is they stay put and don't go out on the roads. In most places, plowing doesn't happen in Canada until after the storm is over. When it's cleared, people go home, go to the store and carry on as usual. Metro NYC'ers and a large portion of the US populace are entitled mf'ers. They take pride is not following advice because they are special. In a storm, stay put and wait it out.
As for the kids in West Orange, I think the school administration made the correct call. It was unsafe out on the roads for numerous reasons. From the interviews I saw on the news of both parents and kids, it was the parents that were losing their shit. The kids just rolled with it and now have stories to tell. They were mostly smiles...except for one girl who was pissed that the school didn't have sauce for her pasta dinner.
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Duh, Canada definitely has
Duh, Canada definitely has the best Snow Clearing system.
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I’ve spent more time in the
I’ve spent more time in the Metro area than you spent in Montreal. I’ve also spent the last 30 years in a place that gets 10x the snow and cold as do you. In doing so, I’ve had to share the roads with countless dipshits like you, from NY/NJ, who think they know how to drive in the snow. I have also made many trips to Quebec in the winter. Of course they are better at clearing snow, they have to do it more.
Yeah, yeah, you were a “professional” driver 35 years ago, so you’re an expert.
Get a grip on yourself, Stu.
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Did Murphy declare a state
Did Murphy declare a state of emergency during the storm? Christie seemed to do it every time it snowed.
Ski, i agree that the folks in west orange made the correct call, just don't think they should have been forced to make such a decision.
I experienced snow storm which began during business hours, been on the parkway when its been closed plowing, but nothing like the other day. And it wasn't even a particularly bad storm. Worse storms have been handled better.
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I was out there on foot and
I was out there on foot and public transpo for a few hours.
I'm not blaming Murphy for plows being stuck in gridlock caused by assholes in sport cars.
Seemed to be one stuck at every stop sign and signal.
In my area, state, county, and even my borough, which typically waits this stuff out, were doing a kick-ass job until Joe Public blocked the box full-time.
I hoofed it out the gridlock and caught a van to NYC. Cost me an extra 45 minutes (and probably about 2-3 lbs.).
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Maybe all along it was just
Maybe all along it was just the black mold?
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Dog Fucker
Dog Fucker
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stu needs help
stu needs help
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ateix,
ateix,
if you are threatening to harm my Dog, it is time for you to have a visit from the Massachusetts State Police.
I realize you have been banned from this message board several times in the past for threatening people and violent language.
Maybe it is time for your visit with "The Cops".
Do you have a physical Address where "The Cops" can visit ??
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If you are threatening to
If you are threatening to punch yourself in the dick, it is time that you totally do that.
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He clearly didn’t threaten
He clearly didn’t threaten your dog. Even if he did, he’d be threatening a random dog, owned by a random dude, on a random dbmb. He probably doesn’t know your name, let alone where you live, and would doubtfully care enough to do anything.
But hey, the newfound aggression thing may actually catch on, so keep it up.
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wow stu.. i hope this is a
wow stu.. i hope this is a "ruse".. no way you can really be this "out there"
if you really feel this is real life, seek help .. you are coming unglued
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It's obvious that I don't
It's obvious that I don't tolerate 'Bullying' or threats toward my Dog from random internet Thugs.
ateix, your sexually abusive posts do not excuse any of your cyber-threatening thuggish behavior.
The other mentally ill people who support that threatening and abusive culture are equally in the Wrong.
I will not tolerate the Bad people; cyber-bullies attempting to threaten and intimidate me on a simple Weather thread.
Making threats toward my Dog is just criminal.
You evil creatures need a few chilly evenings in the local County lockup.
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Nobody threatened anyone or
Nobody threatened anyone or any pet, and as far as I can see, the only “bully” here has been you.
Way up above I responded to something specific that you said, no more or less. Your move was to come at me with a barrage of rudeness and insults.
Look on the mirror, would you? You’re just aggressive and rude. You hijack threads and try to dictate what people post. Who the fuck are you to call foul on anyone?