Five dead, including suspected gunman, in Northern California school shooting

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Five dead, including suspected gunman, in Northern California school shooting

By Jenna Lyons and Steve Rubenstein 

Updated 12:30 pm, Tuesday, November 14, 2017

http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Three-dead-in-Northern-California-sc...

hopefully they will annouce his ethnicity soon so we can decide if it was terrorism or not

More interested in the shooters age since maybe another Newtown

>>>More interested in the shooters age

They say the shooter was a guy in his 50s named Kevin.  He is described as "crazy" and a "known felon" who frequently harassed his neighbors.

 

Just remember - no matter what the question is - the answer is MORE GUNS!

Too soon to demand a ban on Assault weapons and tighter gun control measures?

>> Too soon to demand a ban on Assault weapons and tighter gun control measures?

Ownership and transfer of assault weapons have been banned in California since 1989.  

This took place less than an hour drive from where I live, fucked up shit.

can't even imagine how the parents of the kids who attend that school feel today.

we need more elementary school kids with license to carry. NRA's answer.

Tehama County Assistant Sheriff Phil Johnston says the gunman had a semi-automatic rifle and two handguns and was randomly picking targets.

Listening to right wing call in over lunch. The answer is to rebuild all schools with a back door on the classrooms so that kids can escape when there are shootings.  Can we pay for this with a massive tax on guns then?

>>  The answer is to rebuild all schools with a back door on the classrooms so that kids can escape when there are shootings

The VT shooter chained the doors shut.

There is no answer. Freedom is messy. Deranged, suicidal and homicidal madmen don't care about gun laws.

>>>>>There is no answer. Freedom is messy. Deranged, suicidal and homicidal madmen don't care about gun laws.

 

Yeah, why even try restricting access to guns or getting some of the millions of guns in our country off the street.

Yes, there are answers that other countries have found, and this brand of  freedom is a bloody mess brought to you by the NRA and those like Ender who would prefer to do nothing to stop the gun violence and mass shootings. 

The Aussie model worked well.

We can quickly do buy-back programs, solidify and unify the background check process, reconcile what weapons are/aren't appropriate for modern times, etc.  Maybe we can pray some, too (pray that the NRA blows up).

<<<demand a ban on Assault weapons and tighter gun control measures?

 

 

i think CA is already extremely restrictive on those.

not restrictive enough.

>They can no longer be bought or sold, though people who lawfully owned one before the start of this year can keep it if they register it.

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/06/18/california-gun-owners-legal-...

We should also blame Reagan for putting a generation of crazies into the population to have crazy children...

TIMELINE: Deinstitutionalization And Its Consequences

How deinstitutionalization moved thousands of mentally ill people out of hospitals—and into jails and prisons.

DEANNA PAN  APR. 29, 2013 10:00 AM

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/04/timeline-mental-health-ameri...

1980 - President Jimmy Carter signs the Mental Health Systems Act, which aims to restructure the community mental-health-center program and improve services for people with chronic mental illness.

1981 - Under President Ronald Reagan, the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act repeals Carter’s community health legislation and establishes block grants for the states, ending the federal government’s role in providing services to the mentally ill.  Federal mental-health spending decreases by 30 percent.

2009 - In the aftermath of the Great Recession, states are forced to cut $4.35 billion in public mental-health spending over the next three years, the largest reduction in funding since deinstitutionalization.

Except that other countries that also lack mental health care don't have mass shooting like we do in America.

Don't forget what Governor Reagan did as well....

Mentally Ill + Guns = Mass Shootings

Not necessarily- not all people who commit mass murders have a history of mental illness. Most, however do have a history of domestic violence.

 

 

you can have the best mental health care in the world, but if Americans  have easy access to assault weapons there will continue to be mass shootings.

 

Side note for maybe another thread...

Ronald Reagan, the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act repeals Carter’s community health legislation and establishes block grants for the states, ending the federal government’s role in providing services to the mentally ill.

2009 - In the aftermath of the Great Recession, states are forced to cut $4.35 billion in public mental-health spending over the next three years,

Trump healthcare repeal & replace correlation hello

>>>Side note for maybe another thread...

 

 

^^^^hey look a sLURKey sighting

Freedom mean no rules.

Nothing to restrict you in any way.

Anything else is a limit on freedom.

 

 

True freedom:  personal nuclear weapons.

 

...and child brides.

LOTS of child brides, like in Saudi.  (<<<ooops, Saudi is a bad example of "freedom".)

 

NRA Puppets tour Nor Cal playing all their greatest hits including,,,

Too Early (to talk about gun laws)...

Guns don't kill people (NRA Puppets Do)...

Obamas Fault (Blame the black guy)...

That last one is as old as time,

classic

 

Trump Shooting.jpg

>>>Most, however do have a history of domestic violence.

This guy was no exception.  The cops were at his house a couple of days ago for a domestic violence incident (he ended up killing his wife and stuffing her body in the floor boards).  Amazingly, the shooter was out on bail for stabbing his neighbor and was under a protective order.   Local sheriff should have confiscated his guns.

 

Not sure what the worst part of that tweet is. The hollow "May god be with", the form letter style tweet itself where he neglects to change the site of the latest shooting or the atrocious grammar of has arrived. What a mess he is.