GOAT

Sorry, I suspended the Olympics for testing positive for covid and cannabis. 

GOD OF ALL TEXANS 

one of the craziest videos ive ever came across

somehow linked to it from the zone :)

thanks A**holes

She is a remarkable human being and a truly great American.

^^ when it happens in NYC it gets world press coverage, but some Bay Area cities have used goats to clear weeds for  years. I saw a flock out by the Bay Trail in Sunnyvale last month, hired from GoatsRUs. 

They are brought in to the hills in Fairfax, California every year to clear grass from the hillsides. There are traveling herds here for that purpose, as well.

I see them in SoCal too.

Earl Manigault 

When Abdul-Jabbar finished his career with the Los Angeles Lakers and had his number retired at the Los Angeles Forum, he was asked who was the greatest player he had played with or against and he responded by saying Manigault.

Mental health is important.

Not the goat 

Never knew about yer' boy Manigault, Ras. Wow.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Manigault

>Not the goat

Who's the 'goat' then?   

If not Simone, definitely streetvan or zippy

2021 Bummer Olympics

Well, I'd say that transcending medical conditions puts her behind Retton who showed the world that it can be done. 

Nadia Comaneci or STFU.

And def behind her... 

Sorry Miss Wild World of Sports.....Lol.    She's competed 365 for how many years?  How many medals has she won?   Yet, she disappointed Nancy..... im sure she's upset she didn't win you another......   

^ yes, Muhammad Ali comes to mind, the origional greatest of all time.

But mental health is a tricky thing,, we're all fragile, some more than others. Like that young woman tennis star,, sometimes shit just gets too heavy to bare.

Cuz no one in the Olympiics has felt pressure before..., time to choose a new tattoo 

"90 percent mental. The other half is physical" yogi

So maybe that's the difference between a really good athlete and the "greatest of all time," ras 

who can mentally persevere and who can't....I am a long distance competitor, the longest race I competed in was 1000 miles non stop canoeing in 2011. We did it in under 7 days. The physical part plateaued about 3 days in and the final 3 and change was straight up perseverance. We were physically no better than the team that finished behind us but how we coped mentally is what pushed us on.
 

It's also important to bring all the elements of your game together at the right time.
 

The participation trophy crowd will form a circle around her tho so she should be fine

News Flash

Most Decorated Gymnast In History is Human

Film at 11

"It just sucks when you're fighting with your own head" 

>>>We all don't go around with GOAT rhinestones imbedded on our attire.<<<
 

well no kidding we also don't all have a trunk full of Olympic medals either

>>Her mental health crisis apparently is that she isn't mentally prepared to lose. I thought she was better than that.<<
 

really? she told you this? Because those actually read like your thoughts from here.
 

Or are you a doctor?

is a "mental health crisis" not also a "medical crisis" in your world? 
 

...something about not demanding entertainment from black bodies...

She never called herself "GOAT," that was everyone else. Talk about added, external pressure for a very young lady to live up to. It was also premature, seeing as how she hadn't yet competed in the 2020 Olympics, which would truly define her as GOAT. It's very different than Ali, who called himself "The Greatest." That was his shtick.

I don't fault her at all for bowing out. She trained a lifetime for the physical aspect of the sport. There's no training that can help someone live up to the ridiculous expectations that were placed on her. She didn't let anyone down. May be it's a cautionary tale, that the media should maybe shut the fuck up with their stupid need to create news rather than to report on it.

Instead of focusing on Biles, maybe take a look at the Russians, who were amazing. The rest of the US team did a bang-up job bringing in the silver. And how about those Brits, who barely made it in and brought home the bronze? Take a look at their faces when they learned they medalled. That's what the Olympics are about.

Maybe should have skipped the Goldie the Goat leotards if she wasn't embracing the moniker. 

I wonder if she had much of a choice to wear that leotard or not. It doesn't matter much to me either way. She choked. It's part of sports.

There is a lot of risk if you are distracted in this sport, and going thru life as a crippled goat, probably not a bunch of fun. God Bless her, she had a great run, brought this country a shit ton of medals, got a boatload of money, and will be ridiculed the rest of her life by trolls, the American Dream, all on TV 

How dare she do what was best for her, and not care about the hopes and dreams of a nation. So selfish...

I would also like to add, I might be interested in wearing goat embedded rhinestone leotards in the privacy of my own home 

well maybe on TV too, if the moneys good 

She should be thankful that she isn't from Columbia and a star goalkeeper 

Maybe it's me but I never seen a pitcher vault himself twenty feet in the air from either a vault or A bar ten feet in the air, spin himself on his axis while doing two and a half summersaults and land on his feet or grab a bar only to do it again, and land on his feet. In fact any sport that you can play while smoking a cigarette, really is not a real sport imo, it's a past time, like fishing. 

Maybe the last 18 years of limited diet, 18 hours training days and 2% body fat finally got to her.

Another Goat choking at his peak time, and with embedded rhinestones 

https://youtu.be/eLOwaGSEAMI

Now she can dedicate her life to increasing "awareness" of her plight..

Nancy

are you feeling OK?

wow

The price Simone has paid along her journey is incalculable. Flat out. The exact trauma that she has been put through (repeatedly, over years), is likely the same trauma that haunts her right now, today, this morning, whatever. The treatment at the hands of her own country, after basically having given herself to said country, and still choosing to represent *despite* these challenges (as a plaintiff in a federal sexual abuse lawsuit still playing out in real time, she is likley retraumatized almost daily just by her involvement alone) in my mind has earned her the right to do pretty much whatever the fuck she wants to do. It's not exactly the kind of thing that goes away when she puts on a leotard, you know? This is pretty simple stuff.

As far as I'm concerned she is, and has been a national hero before she ever won a single medal.

Just like muhammad ali was. Who; despite having gotten his ass kicked a couple times his later years (and also a couple in his earlier years), doesn't diminish the GOAT he was at all.

And if her move is to walk off the stage and deny the USA a medal, then so be it. She's due.

She. got. back. on. the. horse.

She gets back on the horse every. single. day.

Bss, I share your assessments and statements throughout the thread (and some other threads) - thank you.

Much love Judit.

When I said she was a remarkable human being and a great American, I meant it from the bottom of my heart.

I wasn't talking about how she looks on television, or how high she jumps, or what color medal she "got for us".

You are seeing her as a human, a young woman who's been through a lot, given a lot, practiced non-stop, and suffered. I appreciate her taking care of herself when it's right, and right might be when she's feeling so fragile or broken. It's so important to take care of yourself. She's just an amazing athlete on the U.S. gymnastics team, but first, a young woman making her way in the world.

From Rebecca Solnit, an author on Facebook:

Simone Biles, who stepped out of competition, the German gymnastics team who chose to compete in tights rather than leotards, the Norwegian handball players who refused to play in ass-baring bikinis (Pink offered to pay their fines), tennis champ Naomi Osaka's refusal to do a press conference immediately after a match and testimony about what a toll those conferences take: these young women are modeling for girls and young women and everyone else how to set boundaries, stand up for yourself, not let others dictate what is right and reasonable, and their right to dignity and self-determination. Women who said no. Women who valued themselves and trusted their judgment.

For me, who largely ignores sports, these are their finest moves and plays. “‘I have to put my pride aside,’ Biles said afterward. ‘I have to do what's right for me and focus on my mental health and not jeopardize my health and my well-being. So that's why I decided to kind of take a step back. At the end of the day, we're human, too, so we have to protect our mind and our body rather than just go out there and do what the world wants us to do.’” I'm proud of her. She made her exit with grace and self-awareness. (But I still wish climate change was getting more coverage than sports this summer. Exiting the age of fossil fuel is the most urgent thing ever, and people are drowning and forests are burning.)

yeah, yeah

and fishcane could beat her in a canoe race too, I know

BSS and judit 

well said and Unfortunately too true

noncy I'm sorry you are  personally offended. .... and I'm curious how much money you wagered or what she owes you...

Divas gonna diva.  

Gymnasts, Figure Skaters, meh.

I read that as Gymnasts, Figure Skaters, men

lol, no, it applies to all the genders, Judit.   Bunch of little Miss and Mr. Prissys.

Two sports I could give a rat's ass about.

That's funny, I have such a different perception of the gymnasts. Actually, until they reach professional shows I thing the skaters and gymnasts are really hard workers and if they're any good, terrific athletes.

Fortunately we live in a varied and diverse world.  Like Jerry used to say, not everyone likes licorice.

Very fortunate. I hate licorice.

>your veteran star pitcher  is on the mound for the World Series warming up and throws a couple wild pitches  and instead of working with the coach announces that the team can go on without him. He can't bear to risk walking any players and face the humiliation of defeat. Too stressful to live up to expectations of his previous no hitter. His head just isn't in the game. I'm sure you'll give him a pass.

 I don't give any shits about baseball but as long as we're speaking to things that you don't understand -- the pitcher would have already been taken out of the game. 

The right wing, and some of you douches, jumping on this bandwagon is telling. 

This is part of the beauty of sports, a fallen hero, another member stepping up to rise or fall to the occasion, a possible story of redemption or of failure for one side and victory for another. Sports are great and more industry needs to be created around sports, one that supports the players and shares in the money. 

Nancy would heckle Bryson. She's team Brooks. 

Although all the negative shit she's receiving over this must really hurt, it hurts less than a broken neck.

>>>>>more industry needs to be created around sports

Hmmm. IMO, one of the major problems with sports today is too much industry, too much commercialism - too much money.

But that's not gonna change any time soon.

Industries built around sports for the most part do not ruin the environment, generate lots of money provide jobs, and economy. Even e-sports are filling arenas, . Computers and balls and people watching them. Entertainment, Sports and Recreation need to be the jobs of the future, and lots of vacation time for people to support all of these 

>mental health crisis

The media has branded it with the understanding that the headline would attract lots of buyers.  I dont think those words came out of her mouth?

>having a difficult time understanding how it's any different any star athlete dealing with performance

It's not any different,  it's being spun differently.   The Laura Ingraham's of the world are using it as a 'see --- you dumb liberals, you and those blacks are the losers we knew they were. F her and f Karpernick'.   You can not take this in the simple context of Simone saying 'I can't do it anymore'.   There is a HUGE picture sitting in the back round that is being used to manipulate the thought process.      

She has shown her greatness.  Sorry that we are a society of 'what have you done for me lately?'  

I was surprised a few months back when I read she was even on the team, since she had absolutely nothing to prove, particularly in such a high stress and insane amount of training sport.

Those female gymnasts eat, sleep and breathe the Olympics. The elite athletes start training younger and harder than almost any other sport. Remember that they made the rule that gymnasts had to be 16 to compete because they were literally fucking themselves up before they even hit puberty (which started late because of low body fat). That's how Biles grew up.

I read that Biles especially was bummed about the postponement because she had reached peak form before Rona hit. For her to pull out, while at the Games, she must have had the serious heeby-jeebys.

^ spoken like someone who knows her quite well, and I'm sure you don't. Where you gettin all your info from, national enquirer ?  Till you've walked a mile in her shoes you have no clue what she's going thru. Zip zero zilch, but keep on talking like you do, makes you sound mean and crass, and may I say quite unzonelike.

That "have to wonder" shit sounds like Tucker Carlson.  Jus' sayin'.

I thought JERRY was the GOAT???

jIMI??

Let me say what you are thinking

"Kerri Struggs - those were the days"

Sexism

women's  lives matter

https://apple.news/AZTKPYzvzRg-Ectpy997zNQ

Ever hear of the "twisties"?  https://ftw.usatoday.com/2021/07/olympics-simone-biles-twisties-explained

Maybe this can provide some explanation....AND UNDERSTANDING.  Read the Catherine Burns tweets. 

> any sport that you can play while smoking a cigarette, really is not a real sport

And here I thought I had devoted my entire life to sport. I'm gonna have to have a smoke and think about this for a bit.

the governor of Texas lives in menlo park?

A friend posted this on Facebook. 

Where it says "No, I'm just a pasty middle-aged sad sack"...    the friend who posted this on Facebook was described to me as a sad sack before I met him. Just seems like an interesting coincidence. He's changed a lot since then.

"You are the only person on earth who is allowed to criticize you."

Wtf?

Yeah, the first branch is pretty much messed up too. It closely resembles the logical fallacy known as a false dilemma. There are more options than these two choices available.

Never under estimate us Americans!
 

some rise, some fall, and the Eagle Soars!
 

Congrats, Suni Lee

Why is race being brought into this?

That flow chart is weak sauce.

This whole thread is a total piece of shit.

But definitely revealing

....or affirming

Not once ever.

keep reaching

>Gymnastics isn't the only sport where an athlete can get seriously injured if their head isn't in the game.  
 
 

Gymnastics and Cheerleading are two very dangerous sports.

Rock Stars just do heroin and blow to deal with performance anxiety, and a lot of them die young.

I've avoided this thread, but I just scrolled down and looked at the last few posts and I'm a little confused.

Are people criticizing Simone for pulling out of the competition?

Is someone calling her a choker?

If so, I'm glad I've avoided this thread.

With any sport at that level, losing your place, focus or trajectory as you move can be really dangerous. Why is this such a mystery or big deal? Why does someone's mental health needs come into question? If you've realized that you are not safely in control of your movements or intentions, it's time to take a step back.

In this case Biles's stong team were ready to do what a team does; they stepped up both individually and as a team. Good work!

And even swimmers hit their heads on the side of the pool if they don't know where they are.

edit: Good call, Lance.

It was bound to happen the moment she embraced the moniker. 

<< Is someone calling her a choker?

Just one Brick,, as in - Thick As A

She's as much owned the fact that she choked in her own words.  She said her head wasn't right, she wasn't able to compete at her usual high level, and would be a detriment to her team.  I'm not calling her a choker, but that's pretty much what she's saying.  It's cool she owned it, unlike the folks who posted the racist garbage in this thread.

^ Your theories are the worst kind of popular tripe, your methods are sloppy, and your conclusions are highly questionable.

Did someone make this a race thing ?

Is Naomi Osaka a choker too ?

Osaka announced that she would not participate in any media events in a post last week. The 23-year-old cited mental health concerns as the reason for her decision.

Naomi Osaka responds after $15K fine for skipping French Open press conference.

"Anger is a lack of understanding," Osaka tweeted. "Change makes people uncomfortable."

Osaka acknowledged the likelihood of a fine in her initial post, expressing hope that "the considerable amount that I get fined for this will go towards a mental health charity."

Amazes me how some here think they got it all figured out.

Till you walk in their shoes, you know nothing of what they're going thru, therefore you're assumptions are uber fucking lame .

The participation trophy crowd has formed its circle right on schedule 

Did someone make this a race thing ?<<<

Check out that flow chart that got posted.

And for the record I fully support her putting health first just as anyone who has part of their body that needs healing should... she is just not the goat that's all

That title usually leads to gripes and money issues. 

Athletes become republicans when they retire and ask their accountants how to earn more in retirement. 

UFC Legend Ronda Rousey Goes To Town On Simone Biles Critics
https://www.sportbible.com/australia/news-mma-wwe-ufc-legend-ronda-rouse...

"Everyone judging Simone Biles doesn't know their foot from their a**hole", Rousey wrote on Twitter.

" Whatever is going on cannot be grasped from outside. She's doing the absolute best she can given the situation she's in."

So she didn't "quit" 

she "chose not to continue"

Got it..,

I don't understand why she hasn't left Japan & gone to seek medical attention for her mental health issue.

If I were her teammate, I would support that  decision. 

>she "chose not to continue"

Got it..,

Essplain your comment a little more clearer.   Ill comment once you declare. 

Frank her "mental health issue" only comes to light when she's twisting and turning like at a meet. If it cleared up suddenly, she'd want to be where she could compete. 

It isn't like she wants to off herself and was seen at a gun store and needs to talk to someone immediately. .

Here she is in a video trying to see if she can perform (she's still trying!!!!) and she falls on her back. 

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/simone-biles-video-twisties-olympics_n_61...

Biles told fans that her “mind and body are simply not in sync” and that the problem emerged randomly after the qualifying round.

Biles said she cannot tell up from down and the issue is persisting. “Sometimes I can’t even fathom twisting. I seriously cannot comprehend how to twist. Strangest and weirdest thing.”

Biles, who hasn’t said whether she’ll compete in the apparatus finals after teammate Sunisa Lee captured the all-around gold, revisited the awkward vault that precipitated her pullout in the team event. She aborted a more difficult move after getting confused in the air, and shot back at trolls who say she quit.

“I simply got so lost my safety was at risk as well as a team medal,” she wrote.  

My only comment was "got it" which means "now I understand"

her comments were the ones in quotes ...

"I chose to not continue team competition in jeopardizing losing a medal (of any color) for the girls/US. Also, for my own safety and health. For anyone saying I quit, I didn’t quit"

Last I read, she withdrew from all events. All I'm saying is, if that were me, I'd be home getting my head right and scheduling appointments.

She looked somewhat lethargic and lost last nite trying to root on her teammates. Tough to look at. Vibes to her.

"choking" is competing and unexpectedly coming up short, especially to a supposed lesser competitor.

walking away because you are not at the top mentally is something else altogether.

not sure why round and round nancy's mullberry bush with this.

All sounds like quitting to me, regardless of the reason. In my sports those show up in the results as DNF. Did Not Finish 

Y'all do know that there are 100 other Olympic stories that are both real and amazing. This whole Biles thing is neither news nor important (at least not to the "sports" aspect of it all).

Meanwhile, Lee won the gold in the all around. Her story is far better than Biles'.

thanks for clearing up nancy

I prefer the sports where the athletes don't tart themselves up with make-up.

The BMX, Swimming, 3-on-3 Basketball, and Soccer have all been entertaining.

What really sucks is that they interview the gymnasts and almost immediately turn the conversation to Biles. "We love her and support her, and can we get back to talking about what's really important?"

 Biles' story (along with Osaka and the US Soccer team) will have long-term importance because it will humanize these athletes, make them less of a commodity, and move to pay them what they deserve.  Now, though, is time to celebrate the hard fought wins.

Sometimes I get the twisties standing on solid ground.

Simone Biles said she got the ‘twisties’ in competition. Here’s what that means - National | Globalnews.ca
https://globalnews.ca/news/8073648/simone-biles-twisties-gymnastics/amp/

Interesting about the "twisties." In a way, it would be like a guitar player falling into a lengthy coma, and coming out of it needing to relearn guitar skills. In the interim, gigs would have to be canceled while that rockstar masters those skills again. He could go out and play, but it would be terrible for both he and his fans. 

But Brian, it worked out, right?

Absolutely worked out. That guitar player came back stronger and better than ever, at least in his own opinion. He just needed time. That time, and missed gigs, didn't take away from his greatness 

Sulu was a lot less of a smarmy biotch when he had Chekhov around.

Was Sulu George Takei's name on Star Trek? George Takei is one of my favorite people that I don't know. He's got great insights, humor, all of it. Smart guy.

Yes

Lots of anxiety and anguish on display during the final round of golf right now. 

No twisties on the green!

Hideki went from 1 back to 5 back with 9 to go. Pressure. 

To date, Biles has more Olympic medals, world championships and highest scores in history. That would make her the "greatest to date," correct? And, as "all time" can't predict the future, until someone surpasses her, she'll be GOAT.

The record books are stats and figures, and they'll show her massive accomplishments. They wll not show the people on social media putting her down for not competing at a single event.

I the good old days a Goat was someone who came up short on a big stage, so it's a fitting moniker. 

They all face competitive stress.  Djokovic is just showing poor sportsmanship.

Twistys is just more Millennial gobbledygook.

Sometimes I get the twistys when I spin my vinyls.

Stress is one thing, the "twisties" are a state of disassociation affecting gymnasts, leaving them disoriented, unable to coordinate themselves in midair, and at risk for injury. 

Like I said, I sometimes get that shit standing on solid ground,,, it's called vertigo, and it's no fun. Imagine doing one of those gymnastic midair loop de loops and having the sensation of vertigo hit ya. Fuck me I'm out, is the only thing you can do.

When I looked it up on the google machine, try it sometime, you may just learn something.

Again, the google machine can be your friend if you're open to learing that is, not just repeating over n over what you think you already know,,, yer schtik sounds a lot like pure jealousy to me, almost vindictive. Did Simone steal your lunch in school ?

Womens Health might be a good place for you to start.

 What Are 'The Twisties?' Simone Biles' Gymnastics Balk Explained
https://www.womenshealthmag.com/fitness/a37158050/what-are-the-twisties-...

Other U.S. Olympians and doctors spoke out in support of Simone and attested to the pain twisties cause.

The twisties are super common for gymnastics athletes at all levels, and multiple former Olympians spoke out in support of Simone's experience.

"The rhythm is off, and your brain will like stutter step for half a second and that's enough to throw off the whole skill,” former Olympic gymnast Laurie Hernandez told Olympics.com. 

"The twisties happen more than the general public may be aware and are absolutely terrifying for athletes in acrobatic sports," Nicole Detling, PhD, CMPC, owner of HeadStrong Consulting, LLC, a sport psychology company focusing on performance enhancement through mental skills training. 

rapinoe uses/owns/tauts cbd brand

richardson 1 toke over the line.

Takes a couple years off because whatever

gets back on the horse and sweeps the floor because why not

No welcome back party, no pomp and circumstance, no media spectacles

deeds not words

That's why G.O.A.T.

https://www.espn.com/olympics/gymnastics/story/_/id/38141508/simone-bile...

She's Simone Biles. Welcome back. 

Thanks, Bss.

it's always a good feeling to see someone regain their confidence and without saying a word, silence their critics.

Well done!!!