Guitarists That Are Better Than Jimi Hendrix

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Richard Thompson

Ry Cooder

Jerry Garcia

Frank Zappa

Eddie Hazel

 

Tommy Emmanuel

He is in Holland and Germany now but will be in Florida and east coast tour soon.  Definitely worth checking out. 

Monet was way better than Picasso.

agreed Steve

Michael Bloomfield

 

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There might be better players, but few exceed his originality and creativity. 

I totally agree with you Stringtwang.

Tommy Hamilton play a mean Cassidy outro jam.

>>>>There might be better players, but few exceed his originality and creativity. 

 

And while I agree I'd also say Richard Thompson, Ry Cooder, Jerry Garcia, and Frank Zappa did.

 HOLDSWORTH...

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Can someone post a pic of Michael kang from string cheese please.

Better? Dunno, but there's a few guys who are his peers - Jerry, Carlos, and Eric come to mind. Maybe a few more.

John McLaughlin, but...

 

comparison is the thief of joy. 

Django Reinhardt

That fucker only had two good fingers!

Exactly! Fingers to skill ratio he's the greatest guitarist of all time.

Hendrix revolutionized the guitar. He did things nobody before had even thought about doing on a guitar and licks hat nobody since has played inlcluding the guitarists in the OP. People are still trying to emulate his style today. Richard Thompson? The guy is a barely a flea on Jimi's nuts. That's just funny. 

Jesus. Allen Haynesworth. Probably the lamest motherfucker ever to touch a guitar. The music he made is laughable. Just terrible.

>> Monet was way better than Picasso.

I agree.

Better guitarist then Hendrix?

None.  Perhaps there R a (very) few in the same league. 

None better!

Though I do like Django.

Segovia

Richard Thompson? The guy is a barely a flea on Jimi's nuts. That's just funny. <<

 

No.  That's funny.

 

 


 

None....

 

Everyone else is on a  list of honorable mentions ..like stevie ray, and steve morse 

lolololol

 

come on hoovs - no phishing

if only you had been so lucky in your lifetime, you fingers would be bleeding for typing that

Richard Thompson didn't invent any kind of playing at all. He just used folk and rock riffs that have already been played. Hendrix revolutionized the guitar. The guy only cut three albums, and he still accomplished just as much if not more than any of the players mentioned above. I would say Jerry def invented a different style and for that reason I think he can be compared. Zappa kinda did as well. As much as I love Ry Cooder he didn't invent or revolutionize anything. He just plays well. 

>>>Guitarists That Are Better Than Jimi Hendrix

How jejune. 

 

Jimi thought Terry Kath was better.

Phil Keaggy

On a side note: One of the most amusing and ongoing debates about this has been going on for years between Steven Van Zandt and his wife Maureen. It erupts frequently and both dig in with all they got. Maureen picks Jimi. Steven picks Jeff Beck. If for some reason you are in a conversation with both, ask the question. You will not be disappointed with what happens after. :-)

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>>>>>>He did things nobody before had even thought about doing on a guitar and licks hat nobody since has played

 

So did Richard Thompson and he continues too.  Thompson is the complete package.  Better writer than Dylan (but that's another thread), better guitarist than Hendrix.

 

 

>>>>>Richard Thompson didn't invent any kind of playing at all. He just used folk and rock riffs that have already been played. Hendrix revolutionized the guitar. The guy only cut three albums, and he still accomplished just as much if not more than any of the players mentioned above. I would say Jerry def invented a different style and for that reason I think he can be compared. Zappa kinda did as well. As much as I love Ry Cooder he didn't invent or revolutionize anything. He just plays well. <<<<

 

Sounds like you don't know much about Thompson or Cooder.  It's cool that you like Hendrix best but you're wrong or misinformed about those two.

Or Jimi. He cut at least 4 albums during his lifetime, even if you don't count sit-ins, and had many others released posthumously.

>>>>>>He just used folk and rock riffs that have already been played.

 

They had never been played on a guitar before.  He blended British and Scottish Pipe and Fiddle music with Rock n Roll and American Country style string bending.  Nobody had done it before and nobody has done it since.  People copy Hendrix to a T all the time.  Nobody can do that with Thompson. 

 

>>>>>As much as I love Ry Cooder he didn't invent or revolutionize anything.

Except for inventing a genre of music by mixing Delta Blues, Texas Blues, Nortena music, and Rock n Roll.

Opinions on art that are better than other opinions on art.

Some of this thread is opinion.  Some isn't.

 

What are your thoughts on Hendrix 6?

Big gig  Temple U...

The stadium was host to a concert held on May 16, 1970. The performers included Jimi Hendrix, Grateful Dead, The Steve Miller Band and Cactus.

Hendrix also thought (and is quoted) as thinking Leslie West was better. (While hearing him record in the studio Jimi owned). Jimi was a lil insecure? Or just open minded?

 

Jeff Beck

 

Jeff Pevar

 

Robin Trower

 

Robert Fripp

 

Adrien Belew

 

Steve Marriott

 

The list is all personal opinion,  incl Jimi s.

 

In my opinion, the solo Prince did at end of While My Guitar Gently Weeps is one of the best pcs of guitar work ever...but, he s not even on my list....the list is huge....and fun to think on...

 

 

Good call on Prince.  Better guitarist and all around artist than Hendrix.

Let's begin by briefly addressing the fact that Prince's career spanned a much larger time frame which allowed him to widen and deepen the depth of his art and note that that should be reflected upon when comparing Prince to Hendrix - or Hendrix to all of the guitarists you mentioned above.

You asked for my thoughts - so I also want to mention that - in the end - I think all criticism and judgment of art is opinions. Art is art - it is not a science, it is not mathematics. Sure, that is my opinion - and I recognize that.

I believe art is not mathematics - because there is a quotient in the equation that is nebulous. Call it "soul", call it "truth" call it "beauty" - call it whatever you want - but when an artist such as a guitarist connects with a fan - that extra layer is in full effect. Above and beyond technical prowess - it is impossible to define and very hard to even agree upon. So saying an artist is innovative, creative or, yes, better - can never fully appreciate that unique part of any artist that "speaks" to the admirer. And therefore - comparisons involving art will never be about "facts" for me.

Hendrix had soul in spades, for me. Almost every note dripped with it. It was honest and it was beautiful.

In addition, Hendrix's whole gestalt was a much about time and place as anything - just like The Beatles. It is impossible to ignore that when making any comparison to any other guitar player.

To conclude - You picked Hendrix as the point of comparison in this thread for a reason. That says a lot about Hendrix before you even mention any other guitarist's name.

 

>>>>That says a lot about Hendrix before you even mention any other guitarist's name.

 

Yeah, duh.  He's one of the greatest guitarists of all time.

Of course it's all opinion.  Who said it isn't?  Most guitarists had a lot more time to play than Hendrix.  I think we're all aware he died very young.

When I state an opinion should I post IMO for you?

 

 

 

you have the audacity to question my jejunosity?

 

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Do you not like Hendrix Hoov?  Its clear you like Thompson. I like his work as well.  I'd say that it is a fun question but really not possible to answer.  Different players are better suited for certain tunes. Are we talking influential? Some can write a song, others amazing technicians. Hendrix is a guitar legend but can you imagine if he played with the GD? square peg in a round hole, except maybe on watchtower :) .  One solo does not make a guitarist great imo. Prince never did it for me. There are some killer bluegrass players out there.  Jazz too!  We all got our favs I guess

Timmy, you need to trace your steps. Thompson and Cooder borrowed licks from a whole bunch of different players. They ain't doing anything new. People have been mixing up Texas and delta blues way before Cooder was around. You prob only know Cooder because he's white. He took a whole bunch of stuff from old black musicians. As for Thompson, he practically just bangs around on the strings when he is playing electric, prob why nobody would want to try and emulate that. His acoustic playing can be interesting but again it's just old Celtic stuff that's been around for ages, all he is doing is reappropriating shit.

 

People try and copy Hendrix all the time but nobody has ever done a decent job. Just listen to the most recent band of gypsys live release. If you think Cooder or Thompson or anybody for that matter can hold a flame to that then you should get your ears checked. Hendrix is a legend. Thompson is nowhere near a legend. His four piece is just pitiful man. If I want to see four old guys try and play music I can just go to an open mic. Thompson really should have never tried to sing either, it really just becomes him croaking after a while.

Prince sucks. 

"Writing about music is like dancing about architecture."

>>>>>You prob only know Cooder because he's white. He took a whole bunch of stuff from old black musicians.

No shit?  lol

 

>>>>>>>As for Thompson, he practically just bangs around on the strings when he is playing electric, prob why nobody would want to try and emulate that.

You don't play guitar, do you?

 

>>>>>His acoustic playing can be interesting but again it's just old Celtic stuff that's been around for ages

Except not really.  It's been around but not on guitar.  Like I said he took Fiddle reels and pipe music and translated it to guitar.  Nobody else was doing that.

Hendrix was the Kurt Cobain of his day.

When you post this: >>Some of this thread is opinion.  Some isn't << I'm going to point out that it's all opinions.

It's okay if you disagree with that.

And if you really want me to give you my thoughts on anything in the future - like you asked for here - not being so combatitive in your response would go a long way.

I do play guitar. A long time as well. I've seen you play in a video. I'd give you a lesson if you like.

 

Thompson is alright but I never heard anything that made me think he was great. That's my opinion. He can't a find a good riff that's why he just tried to bend very string and bang on the strings. Saw him once, his band was terrible. The rythym section was all fucked up. Anyways, I could sit here and pick apart the guys playing all day but it's just how I look at it. The guy will never be a legend. Hendrix was. It is what it is. 

>>>>I'm going to point out that it's all opinions.

 

But it's not.

 

Here's some parts that weren't opinion:

  • He cut at least 4 albums during his lifetime
  • People are still trying to emulate his style today
  • The stadium was host to a concert held on May 16, 1970. The performers included Jimi Hendrix, Grateful Dead, The Steve Miller Band and Cactus.
  • He blended British and Scottish Pipe and Fiddle music with Rock n Roll and American Country style string bending.  Nobody had done it before
  • People copy Hendrix to a T all the time
  • except for inventing a genre of music by mixing Delta Blues, Texas Blues, Nortena music, and Rock n Roll.

Thompson is the Asher Roth of his day.

Ry wasn't the first person to do that. So that's not a fact. 

>>>>>I do play guitar. A long time as well. I've seen you play in a video. I'd give you a lesson if you like.

 

lol, I need way more than one.  

 

>>>>>>Do you not like Hendrix Hoov?

I love Hendrix.  In my top ten but not top 5.

 

>>>>>>We all got our favs I guess

 

Yeah, that's what this thread is about.

>>>>>And if you really want me to give you my thoughts on anything in the future - like you asked for here - 

 

I guess I don't really care either way.  Half the time you say you were just kidding when asked about something you've previously posted anyway.  

 

>>>>>>>>>>not being so combatitive in your response would go a long way.

 

In case you don't realize it your posts read that way to me too.

>>>>>Ry wasn't the first person to do that. So that's not a fact. 

 

who was the first to mix Delta Blues, Texas Blues, Nortena music, and Rock n Roll?  Or I'd even except one other band that does.

 

Sure Delta, and Texas blues mixed.  Louisiana and Texas share a border.  But adding Mexican instrumentation and playing with a Rock n Roll feel with the blues was completely original.

Timmy - none of those facts addresses his being better or worse than any other guitarists. They are facts about his life.

 

And if you don't care either way - why ask me my opinion? That's dooshy.

Better or worse in your opinion 6. But carry on being obtuse.

 

I'll give Ry the addition of Mexican influence into the mix. But there were players like Albert king who were mixing delta and Texas blues back in the 50's. 

I'll give Ry the addition of Mexican influence into the mix. But there were players like Albert king who were mixing delta and Texas blues back in the 50's. 

>>>>And if you don't care either way - why ask me my opinion? 

 

Because you posted in a thread I'm hosting so I thought I'd try and include your opinion, but instead you chose to lecture me on opinions.

>>>>I'll give Ry the addition of Mexican influence into the mix. But there were players like Albert king who were mixing delta and Texas blues back in the 50's. 

 

We'll that's why I didn't say Ry was responsible for that. 

Theres Hendrix...and then there is all others...he s in a category all his own...few "artists" of any medium can claim that...

 

I'm not trying to say that Cooder doesn't do great things with his music. I think he's one of the only guitarists to venuture out through all the genres and sub genres and have a successful time doing so. I think Thompson can do some great things with an acoustic as well.

It's short list and respect Timmy's favorites.

My favorite works by Jimi Hendrix are when he was in the studio and it was obvious he was sitting down and playing with subtle touch; gripping, hammering & pulling off full chords.

 

Cool, and I think Hendrix is awesome.  I just like some other guys better.  I also think he's lucky he died early because I think he'd peaked already.  It's good to go out on top and helps create legend. 

Pardon me, Timmy. I'm sorry I disappointed you. Again.

I didn't say I was disappointed.  Just some normal 6 posts.  Nothing new.

You don't have to say it. I feel it.

There's nothing you could do to disappoint me 6.

Some would say he peaked...some would say he had just started out...all i know, TH, is it sure woulda been fun seeing what was next in store for him, and for our enjoyment

I am nothing but a disappointment to you. There is no redemption for me.

 

Kawabata Makoto from Acid Mothers Temple is a contender. I've seen Garcia many times, Clapton many times, and all the likely candidates...McLaughlin,Holdsworht,Fripp but there is no one like Kawabata Makoto.

"Maureen picks Jimi. Steven picks Jeff Beck."

 Hell Yeah...Jeff Beck!

I'd also pick Roy Clark.

>"Maureen picks Jimi. Steven picks Jeff Beck."

Who's Maureen and Steven?

"Who's Maureen and Steven?"

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I agree, dying young def adds to the stigma of being legendary. I think as an innovator and musician Hendrix was at the highest level. There's a bunch of guitar players I like more than him but he was def great. He was hanging out with Miles a lot before he died. He prob would have got a lot better. The difference between his playing in 66 and 69 is night and day.

Where is Frank Marino in this discussion?

I thought Jimi gave him his spirit in a dream or something stupid

Timbo, he peaked already??,, ,.lol worthy

how do we know this?

 

IMHO no one has copied Jimi to a T, or come close

just like no one has copied Jerry

i have an asshole, and I have an opinion, and am more into the live experience

saw Thompson twice, walked away disappointed;  but that doesn't denigrate his "value"

saw Jimi once - and to this day, the hair on the back of my neck will stand up when I think about it, I can see, hear and feel it clearly after more than 46 years have passed

the nuances of his mind, spirit, body, sensuousness, and soul can not be expressed,  other than my hair standing up to this day, and acknowledging the most powerful performance ever experienced by this human

 

feeling >> lightning from the gods> small twitch in his face > body gently contorting > the Marshalls screaming out the translation from the heavens through our bodies and souls

blessed

that's all I got

 

fyi i found a new spirit shirt with the wolf on it like the one you were wearing ebay for $ .99 - thanks for the inspiration

Who cares

>>>>>>>fyi i found a new spirit shirt with the wolf on it like the one you were wearing ebay for $ .99 - thanks for the inspiration

 

 

Right on Joel.  Hope to cross paths soon.

>>>>>>>Who cares

 

I do.  That's why I started the thread.  Haven't heard any new names yet but these kind of threads get me spinning stuff that I might not have otherwise.

Cool

 

I'll download everything here

>>> The rythym section was all fucked up. Anyways, I could sit here and pick apart the guys playing all day but it's just how I look at it. The guy will never be a legend. 

 

RT is a legend to anyone who knows dick about shit.

and what fucking rhythm section r u talking about?

cause Michael Jerome w/ RT is some of the best drumming I've ever experienced.

 

He can't a find a good riff that's why he just tried to bend very string and bang on the strings.<<

 

LOL..

Maybe he should cover Smoke On The Water

I've never seen a bad Richard Thompson show.  Probably seen him 20 times.

Turns out I have four RT albums but never listened to them. 

What do u recommend?

Electric

Mirror Blue

Richard Thompson 

Rumor and Sigh

 

just finished Paris, Texas by Ry Cooder

love that one

Electric is probably my least favorite Thompson album.  From those 4 I'd say Rumor and Sigh is great and so is Mirror Blue.  I find the production on Mirror Blue to be a little quirky but still enjoy it.  I'm not familiar with an album titled Richard Thompson, but if it's the box set it's probably pretty good.

 

Favorite tracks from Rumor and sighs:

  • Read About Love
  • I Feel So Good
  • I Misunderstood
  • Why Must I Plead
  • Mystery Wind
  • God Loves A Drunk

 

And from Mirror Blue

  • MGB-GT
  • Easy There Steady Now
  • Shane And Dixie
  • Beeswing

Other albums I'd recommend checking out:

  • Sweet Warrior
  • Two Letter Words (Live)
  • Celtschmerz (Live)
  • The Chrono Show
  • Daring Adventures
  • Faithless
  • Guitar, Vocal
  • Hand Of Kindness

Cool. Thank You!

No sweat.  Hope you enjoy him.  I think he's the total package.  Great writer lyrically and the marriage of lyrics and music he creates is awesome (IMO, 6).

 

Now if anybody wants to name a Jimi Hendrix song, I'll respond with a Richard Thompson song that is better.

no "shoot out the lights",  hoovs?

>>>>>>no "shoot out the lights",  hoovs?

 

It's an okay album.  The stuff with Linda isn't my favorite.  Great song but it's not on any of the albums he said he has.

 

Ducknapped and Semi-Detached Mock Tudor are two other brilliant albums.

Why Must I Plead<<

 

Find a live one.  It'll leave you bleedingsmiley

I have tons of live bootlegs of Fairport Convention with Richard and a good collection of live Richard .He shreds an electric guitar .He plays  a six string like a  12 string .I have never seen a bad Richard show .For 37 years Fairport has had a festival in Cropredy England . Richard is famous just not in the jam band scene . There is an extensive tape trading community in Europe. There is a major crossover with Jethro Tull and Fairport and Richard Thompson  . Mr hooves I concur and the lyrics and stories he tells . I have seen him in the Bottom line in NY and an old church in the town of Mendocino with 60 people a couple of times                                                                                                                                                        Ps with that said  there is no one like Jimmy! His liner notes in one of  his live recordings from Europe he  tells the story that he new he was playing with the Psychedelic energy from the crowd he just came right out and said it .Those live recordings from Europe are some heavy shit 

That one you didn't recognize is a live recording from the telluride blues festival 2013

 

 

very good actually 

"Now if anybody wants to name a Jimi Hendrix song, I'll respond with a Richard Thompson song that is better."

Bold as Love

 

>>>>>His liner notes in one of  his live recordings from Europe he  tells the story that he new he was playing with the Psychedelic energy from the crowd he just came right out and said it 

 

One time Furious E and I were dosed and seeing him and I yelled "play something psychedelic" 

He looked out at the crowd and said "play something psychedelic?" and launched into a fantastic, huge version of Hard On Me.  He was playing so hard sweat was dripping off his nose ont his guitar.  It was some amazing shit.

>>>>>>Bold as Love

 

Walking On A Wire

Henry and the human fly album,The angles took my race horse away .I also like the amnesia album came out in the 80's  /Across a crowded room  album ,when the spell is broken ,ghosts in the wind/ Hand of Kindness album

I love Amnesia but the production and Instrumentation is kind of goofy.  I prefer the songs on that album live thought the album versions do hold a certain charm.

There's a real nice rt tribute disc called "beat the retreat."  

Covers by Bob mould, Bonnie raitt, los lobos, Loudon wainwright, x, rem, and a bunch of others.

Definitely worth a listen

Shoot out the lights is prob the worst I've heard by Thompson. For the record, I think Wes Montgomery and Grant Green were much better guitar players than Hendrix. Not crazy about jazz guitar, but those guys were excellent. 

 

Someone above asked what a rhythm section is. In Thompson four peice it was a drummer and a bass player that could barely play a beat together. Every song lagged and dragged and Thompson wasn't doing jackshit over it. 

I agree about the production of amnesia thats why i mentioned the 80's

What about George!?!

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"The Wind Cries Mary"
 

After all the jacks are in their boxes
And the clowns have all gone to bed
You can hear happiness staggering on down the street footsteps dressed in red

And the wind whispers Mary

A broom is drearily sweeping up the broken pieces of yesterdays life
Somewhere a queen is weeping
Somewhere a king has no wife

And the wind, it cries Mary

The traffic lights, they turn, uh, blue tomorrow
And shine their emptiness down on my bed
The tiny island sags down stream
Cause the life that lived is, is dead

And the wind screams Mary

Uh-will the wind ever remember the names it has blow in the past?
And with this crutch, its old age
And its wisdom it whispers, "No, this will be the last"

And the wind cries Mary

 

This thread is all over the map.

 I believe Jimi was the best.

Today there are guitarist who can play every note Jimi did, but then again Mozart is recreated every day to acclaim. 

When I first saw Prince play I thought he may have the IT  or ID to surpass Jimi's influence.that did not happen IMO

If you want to make it about songs , that is a different topic.

BTW Richard Thompson is currently touring and tickets are  abundant.

https://youtu.be/V4WGsMplGxU

 

It's true.  I've heard Kimock do a great 'fake jimi' among other guitar greats he can so easily (it seems) replicate.  Little Wing, Power of Soul come to mind.  

 

Also I have to add Michael Hampton to the list 

>>>>"The Wind Cries Mary"
 

 

Sloth

 

(Chorus)
Just a roll, just a roll
Just a roll on your drum
Just a roll, just a roll
And the war has begun

Now the right thing's the wrong thing
No more excuses to come
Just one step at a time
And the war has begun

(Chorus)

She's run away, she's run away
And she ran so bitterly
Now call to your colours, friend
Don't you call to me

(Chorus)

Don't you cry, don't you cry
Don't you cry upon the sea
Don't you cry, don't you cry
For your lady and me

(Chorus)
(Chorus)

>>>>>This thread is all over the map.

 

Are you new here?

 

>>>>BTW Richard Thompson is currently touring and tickets are abundant.

 

Thanks for the heads up, i keep pretty close tabs on him.

 

There are lots of Hendrix tribute acts with tickets available as well

https://www.google.com/#q=imi+hendrix+tribute+bands

Apparently Hendrix was a big Thompson fan and sat in with Fairport Convention whenever he could.

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/entertainment/music/sdut-richard-tho...

 

Does anybody have any recordings of Jimi with Fairport?  

Absolutes in art?

These aren't batting averages.

Comparing apples to apples is also difficult. 

We've been over this RIK.  It's called preference and we can all have different ones and share them with each other.

This thread is going so well I can't stand it!

I think Monet is the best Monet, but I like Picasso's work as much. I love Picasso but usually only like Monet. Monet's work in person is great Monet, Picasso's work in person is great and varied and prolific and evocative and fantastic. I've seen a lot of both; I'm a Picasso gal.

The most gifted one I have seen is Joe Pass in the 70's. Sometimes it sounds like 2 guitars are playing at once. Have many of his albums. Saw George Benson in a small club around the time the Album "Body talk" came out before he started to sing and he was very good too. No one mentioned Les Paul without him electric guitar might not exist. Also Roy Buchanan is way up there with his very unique sound and his way of bending notes.

Mark Knopfler

Hendrix was an absolute badass. To have died at 27 leaving behind a legacy of music far greater than so many guitar greats who recorded through their 80's, blows my mind. Just so far ahead of his time.

I really love his lowdown dirty blues in songs like Hear My Train a Comin' and others, and I feel if he made to an old man he'd still be holding down the blues fort, but definitely would have also dabbled with jazz and maybe some psychedelic stuff. Shoot, he most likely would have had his own kids who probably would be in the biz as well.

Anyhow, is there anyone "better" than Hendrix? That's a really tough question that requires some time to be thoughtful about this subject. My only thought at the very moment is that Clapton is most likely his equal, but better, I cannot say.

Will definitely think this through.

>>>>>>He just used folk and rock riffs that have already been played.

 

They had never been played on a guitar before.  He blended British and Scottish Pipe and Fiddle music with Rock n Roll and American Country style string bending.  Nobody had done it before and nobody has done it since.  People copy Hendrix to a T all the time.  Nobody can do that with Thompson. 

 

>>>>>As much as I love Ry Cooder he didn't invent or revolutionize anything.

Except for inventing a genre of music by mixing Delta Blues, Texas Blues, Nortena music, and Rock n Roll.

 

<<<<<<

 

Doc Watson and Richie Valens had both covered the terrain that Thompson and Cooder, respectively, followed.

 

The Ventures' guitarists, Don Wilson and Bob Bogle, had a big influence on Jimi Hendrix.  He's singing about seeing them in "Spanish Castle Magic" and tips his hat to them in "Third Stone From The Sun".  

 

Les Paul, Charlie Christian, Merle Travis and Link Wray were also really influential electric guitarists.

 

 

 

>>>I think Monet is the best Monet, but I like Picasso's work as much. I love Picasso but usually only like Monet. Monet's work in person is great Monet, Picasso's work in person is great and varied and prolific and evocative and fantastic. I've seen a lot of both; I'm a Picasso gal.

 

that's a tough call, Picasso was definitely edgier; I saw an exhibit of his Parisian collection once and it was very inspiring, So vibrant, energetic and alive.

I'd love to see Guernica in person.

i might prefer Renoir to Monet.

>>>>Doc Watson and Richie Valens had both covered the terrain that Thompson and Cooder, respectively, followed.

 

Sort of but not really.

I was thinking about this thread a few days ago, E, and Renoir came to mind over Monet, for me, too.

Open thread, CTRL-F "Duane", No results, Close thread

Pablo Picasso was never called an asshole

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc2iLAubras

 

Leo Kottke

Timmy doesn't know his music history that well is what this thread has told me.

There have been so many greats!

Bluelight, Leo Kottke reminded to think about John Fahey, another idiosyncratic guitarist who came to my attention around the same time.

It seems to me that there's a tier of guitarists who are so experimental, such thoughtful, heart-grabbing and excellent craftsman who can't and shouldn't be ranked as best or better than. We are so lucky that we've been able to hear them live and in well-recorded reproductions.

Keep mentioning your picks, it gives me more to think about.

Buckethead? 

>>>>>>Timmy doesn't know his music history that well is what this thread has told me.

 

Aren't you the one who had to say you got it wrong in regards to Cooder?  And also suggested Richard Thompson has no technique and just bangs on the strings?

 

Oh, yeah that was you.

>>>Buckethead? 

 

I'll allow it

Django Reinhardt 

John Frusciante 

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Jimi Hendrix' guitar teacher

What did I say was wrong about Cooder? You said a whole bunch of inaccurate things things that's  why I don't think you know much about the history of music, especially regarding chronology.

>>>Jimi Hendrix' guitar teacher

 

I think that's Jimi Hendrix.

 

I came in to troll and say the dude from Twiddle.

 

>>>Tommy Emmanuel

Yeah, Tommy Emmanuel. I just saw him tonight in West Hampton Long Island and he's technically the best guitar player I have ever seen.

I am speechless.  Blown away.   He really throws the acoustic guitar kitchen sink at ya..

More on Tommy's show tomorrow.

Answer: whoever you like better

When you're up in the top tier it's all personal preference.

To my mind, there are four who stand out, if we're talking electric rock guitar: Jerry, Jimi, Carlos, and Eric( in their prime). Each had plenty of chops, a totally recognizable style, something to say, emotionally, and the ability to say or play it. Lots of others had part of that, but these guys had the whole package.

YMMV.

Zoners who are better than themselves 

Zoner critiquing Zoners.

the original question here:  ridiculous

These types of threads have evolved for years around here and elsewhere.

Never a simple or correct answer- always opinion. Way too many guitarists over the past 50 years and WAY too many not so expert opinions.

To me bottom line is Jimi was never around long enough to see or hear what he would have evolved into, and how much better he could have become.

Add to the fact that he was a pioneer performer, song writer and producer...and was ahead of his time -- at that time.

 

Jimi Hendrix made his mark & is the golden bench mark to which all great guitarist have been compared to since.

Hendrixian should be a legitimate adjective.

This thread is over 6 months old

Knew it'd have to come up soon for air

This thread has been experienced.

>>This thread is over 6 months old

This thread is on vivalazone.org

 

Is it back cause phish covered 'izabella'?

Naptime in vivaland. This place is putting me to sleep, and I gotta go back to work.

Some Faves....

SRV & Derek play uniquely.

McLaughlin.

Stephane Wrembel.

Jorma.

Johnny A.

Django.

 

There are many great players but a couple that stand out for me as live performers:

Steve Morse-crushed it the first time I saw his trio. 

Eric Johnson - same. 

Roy Buchanan. 

Pierre Bensusan. 

Not big fans of their compositions but their performances are etched in my memory. 

Nels Cline 

Bump for Roy Buchanan. Saw him just once, warming up the Dead and Levon Helm & The Cate Brothers in Lewiston, ME in early 1980. Great day of music. The wife's first show (before we were dating but she came along with our group). Hooked her solid.

ohhhhh....

thanx, Highnote...

and Steve Morse.

>>> I also think he's lucky he died early because I think he'd peaked already.

huh ?   you think he's lucky he died ?

He really caught a break.frown

Found this at Dime

Jimi Hendrix Experience
Konserthuset, Stockholm, Sweden,
09th January 1969  SBD On The Killing Floor

http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=598210

01) I Don't Live Today
02) Spanish Castle Magic
03) Hey Joe
04) Voodoo Chile (Slight Return)
05) Sunshine Of Your Love
06) Red House
07) Fire
08) Purple Haze
09) The Star Spangled Banner
 

 

 

 

 

His music gets old real quick. Electric Ladyland is not as good as Axis. 

I'd love to see someone try EXP complete with swirling channels. 

everyone just shut your whore mouths.

for christsakes you think trey sounds good.

Jimi on Red's rig might sound cool. 

^^^I agree with that.

 

Not sure if anyone can compare to Hendrix, but McLaughlin would be my pick. Jimi did it different, and is frozen in time. Its like if Prince had died in '87 instead, one would have wondered what would have become. Instead, we have a semblance of an idea. And Mihali from Twiddle definitely can bring it. Go see him in a small place solo and I think you will be surprised. Not even close to Jimi, but dude has chops and is really fun to see by himself. Oh and Turtle, '97 Trey was a monster. Just Sayin.

who put the bump in the bump de bump de bump

OMG who's the diaper wearing imbacil who started this thread ? 

In his genre the blues, Jimi's Un fucking Touchable.

Genre other than the blues  ? Who fucking cares ? 

 

>>>>>In his genre the blues, Jimi's Un fucking Touchable.

 

lol

 

You probably like The Doors too.

This is the Kadlecik of PZ threads. 

When it comes down to it, there is rock guitar pre-Hendrix and rock guitar post-Hendrix.   While many guitar players might be technically better than Jimi, no other guitar player fundamentally changed how the instrument is played as much as he did in a few short years.   Revolutionary.

The only other rock guitarists who had such a high level of influence on other players are Chuck Berry and Eddie Van Halen, but neither come close to Jimi's levels of influence and importance.

Can you guys provide examples of the Hendrix influence? 

>>>>Can you guys provide examples of the Hendrix influence? 

Are you serious?

Overdriven, Marshall stacks with the volume and gain turned to the max, played through distortion and wah-wah pedals transforming the guitar into a face-melting sonic laboratory.

"Jimi created modern electric playing, without question ... He was the first. He started it all. The rest is history." - Yngwie Malmsteen

Zappa gave Hendrix his first wah pedal

I can’t even read this thread hangover Hoover STFU

but solid  work trolling anyway

leslie west diid crush it

And we all know opinions are like assholes, anyone has one And my asshole opinions reflect my experiences when seeing artists live and yes there are a lot of variables involved

Even though I only saw him once Richard Thompson wouldn’t be in my top 300 and I did walk away mid performance at a festie

Always lots of variables involved  Zappa is an all time stud 

 

Good luck on the Relo on a personal note

For me, the first shockwave was Jimi Hendrix. That was the major thing that shook everybody up over here. Even though we’d (Peter Green, Mick Taylor, Page, Clapton) all established ourselves as fairly safe in the guitar field, he came along and reset all of the rules in one evening ---- Jeff Beck   ( todays greatest living guitarist )

Miles Davis was known to tell his guitarists, “Play like Hendrix.”  

Too bad Jimi was so limited by the technology of the day, but he made the most of it.

Check out the Manic Depression from Winterland 68. You can actually hear tubes sizzle and speakers shred while he attempts warp speed.

Btw its Jimi not Jimmi.

Bout time for some of you to Get Experienced

 

>>>>Btw its Jimi not Jimmi.

 

I didn’t spell it wrong, Spazmataz.

BTW Jeff Beck was playing with and controlling feedback before Hendrix.  He wasn’t quite the pioneer some of you are trying to make him out to be.

When did Jerry experiment with feedback? 

>>>>When did Jerry experiment with feedback? 

Exhibit A:   Caution (Don't Stop on the Tracks)

>>>>BTW Jeff Beck was playing with and controlling feedback before Hendrix.

Yeah, there were a number of guitar players like Beck and Pete Townshend that dabbled in feedback before Hendrix exploded onto the scene.   I think the Beatles are actually credited with the first use of it on their 1964 song "I Feel Fine."  However, all those dudes have since acknowledged that it was really Hendrix that showed the world just how far you can bend and distort the guitar sound into something freakishly awesome and heavy. 

Hendrix is responsible for all loud distorted guitar. 

 

in only 3 or 4 years, he revolutionized guitar music.

like a comet.

who else has had such a lasting impression in such a short time?

 

i saw a post today edward sharpe has been around 10 yrs....who will remember them or be influenced by them? nobody.

What about the country guitar guys. Can they say Hendrix who? 

chet atkins

If anybody listened to ry cooders new album, you’d realize how far he is from Hendrix. 

 

>>>Chet Atkins

I would agree. 

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Mark Knopfler & Chet Atkins - Instrumental Medley


https://youtu.be/5wTVLIZaxMk

Bump for ......

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Not necessarily better, but Gary Clark Junior is fairly awesome. Worth mentioning anyhow.

 

RIP Grumpy Cat 

Hendrix was unique. 

Nuff said.