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Today is the 33rd anniversary of the debut of everybody's favorite tune, Victim or the Crime.

First set closer, out of Althea: https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1988/06/17/victim-or-the-crime?source...

By '88 I was always jonesin' for new/different songs, and had no problem with "Victim", although my taste is apparently less discriminating than some. ;-)  Heard it a few nights later at SPAC.

 

 

Some really good dark jams came out of that song.  And unfortunately a theme song for too many. ...

By fishcane (fishcane) on Friday, May 28, 2021 – 07:06 pm

Angular 

Almost the entire crowd at Metro Sports Arena stopped dead when they started paying that first Victim. I loved it.

Went to a show with a non-dead head chick who I really liked.  She left the show during Victim and I never heard from her again.  Guess some people really hate the song. 

Never really a favorite of mine either but it could indeed delivery some chaotic and heavy stuff in it's wake. I particularly like the Victim>Standing from 03.21.90 and Victim>Darkstar from 12.31.89 - two shows I was fortunate enough to see live and I am sure there are others as well.

JR- I appreciate your candor, bit it seems like maybe it was you, dude, vs. a song. 

Gotta disagree, I was in high demand at the time with others waiting in the wing. 

> I was in high demand at the time

Is there a time you haven't been in high demand, JR?

I'm a Victim fan. Picasso Moon that's a different story.

it has been done well live

more than once, even !

My first Victim was at Laguna Seca 07/30, first song in the second set.  The deep bass shook the ground (I think that was Brent doing that).  I (barely) remember feeling dazed and confused, due to a number of factors...

 

I like it, always have.

 

sonic

Victim

Picasso Moon

Corrina

Never want to hear either ever again.

 

It could indeed delivery some chaotic and heavy stuff in it's wake>>>

7/12/90  Box>Vic>Foolish Heart>Dark Star

https://archive.org/details/gd90-07-12.sbd.unknown.17688.sbeok.shnf/gd90...

 

My first post ever on the Zone, almost 22 years ago, went something like this: Victim was a new sound for the Dead, but it was uniquely Grateful Dead. Although they wrote some great songs in the later years, Victim was also one of the few that was a new and different sound.

I still stand by that.

Weir had been playing it acoustically for a few years 86 or so then debuted electric with Ratdog 1st

With Brent, Fuck Yes

After Brent, Fuck No