How the baby boomers destroyed everything

Ender, get on this asap. Thanks

"Henceforth, let us expect no more from people who achieved so little, who have such small interest in the future. "

I just got a 45 rpm Touch of Grey/My Brother Esau with pool cleaning money. 

How old is the author?  If either older or younger than the Boomer demographic (born 1945 - 1965 if I recall correctly), sounds like sour grapes to me.  I also see he's a "venture capitalist" - so he's got his Chunk of the Pie.

great party conversation stuff....

>Hope a logical discussion could take place

really?

Paging St Mark

I think it's a little more complicated than "Baby Boomers destroyed everything". If I had a gun to my head and was told I had to come up with one thing that destroyed everything I'd have to go with lack of spirituality.

Hey, CB.

It's probably very difficult for the average Baby Boomer to accept the fact that they are a part of the most profoundly incompetent, greedy, destructive generation in American history; but there you have it.

Put 'em out to pasture. We've got work to do.

Don't blame me; I'm a GenExer!!

These guys turn 60 this year. 

<<Ender, get on this asap. Thanks

can someone post a pic of smeagol from lord of the rings clutching a school voucher please?

>> can someone post a pic of smeagol from lord of the rings clutching a school voucher please?

For the record, I don't support home school vouchers, but do support vouchers for private schooling. That was sarcasm that didn't land.

Home school vouchers will just lead to shitty parents keeping their kids home to get a check.

Happens to the best of us, Ender.

Grab a pitchfork and let's strap some Boomers to that wood pile over there. 

>> How old is the author?  If either older or younger than the Boomer demographic (born 1945 - 1965 if I recall correctly), sounds like sour grapes to me.  I also see he's a "venture capitalist" - so he's got his Chunk of the Pie.

That's completely irrevelant. It's a logical fallacy to attack characteristics of the arguer instead of his argument.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

The most enraging thing about baby boomers is hearing them talk about entitlements. 

You guys didn't pay in enough or have enough kids to keep the programs afloat. Though block voting you'll still get all your promised benefits, but your children will make up the difference. They'll pay more, get less benefits or both. 

No one is talking about an equitable solution that treats people of all age the same. That idea is so far from reality, it's not even discussed.

>>>>>>> That's completely irrevelant. It's a logical fallacy to attack characteristics of the arguer instead of his argument.

It's completely Relevant since the Arguer's Argument is Generalizing the Characteristics of a whole Generation of people.

>>>>>>> I'd have to go with lack of spirituality.

I'd go with lack of Logical Reasoning but I'm an Engineer

Lack of "soul", dudes. 

Dan, are the Butthole Surfers too old to talk politics? 

Panic & Mule for Senate!!!!!!

Affordable Care Act discounts baby boomer's care by making their children and grandchildren pay for their care.

The cap is at 400% of federal poverty level. So even the richest baby boomers don't pay their true costs of their care.

https://aishealth.com/archive/nhex1016-02

Worst generation ever

slacker how much do you make an hour? 

At age 65 we go on Medicare. How is the ACA involved in many Boomer's care?

You know what I don't like, guys?

These goddamn Baby Boomers.

As an obvious Boomer here, I take full responsibility for all of the ills of the planet, especially the U.S.

However, I'm not greedy, incompetent or destructive, so I don't know what you'll make of it.

Judit,

My table goes up to age 64. And yeah, you guys are bankrupting Medicare trust fund too. The next generations will get less benefits, pay more or both.

Don't you agree it's fair for everyone to get the same benefits for what they paid in, regardless of age? 

I'm going to wear Sweatpants, Mule Concert Tee's, & Teva's w/white socks everywhere I go from now on.  Also never getting a haircut again.

Judit, is there any way you could call your generation back to the original Woodstock site so we can hit it with a smallish atomic weapon?

50th anniversary is coming up. Just sayin'.

Edit: Please invite Paul Simon. Thanks.

I've always wanted Panic to cover the Butthole Surfer's "Who Was In My Room Last Night" @ a Halloween or New Year's show.  Schools would absolutely Kill that Bassline.

For whatever it's worth, I recall hearing from my parents that the Flapper generation of the 1920's was blamed for all of the ills of the Depression era (when my parents were kids).

ender, what you posted with the table and in your last post don't make sense to me.

And I think it would make a huge difference to the economic state of the U.S. if there were no tax cuts for the wealthy, and they paid a commensurate amount for all programs.

Mark, you must think I'm very powerful; thanks for your belief in me.

$11.50

Is Joan Baez still alive?

She should definitely be on the Woodstock 50 bill as well.

>> ender, what you posted with the table and in your last post don't make sense to me.

What don't you understand? ACA scales your premium by age and earnings compare to federal poverty level. The scale slides in the favor of older people with younger people making up the difference. By the time you are age 64, it's impossible to pay your fair share regardless of your earnings. (Actually probably before age 64, but I don't care enough to look it up right now).

Medicare never raised their payroll taxes. So the trust fund is slowly evaporating. By 2028 it will be gone and we won't be able to pay full promised benefits. Guess who will get fucked when that happens? It sure as hell isn't the block voting AARP members.

We took Esau to Hardly Strictly when he was 5 months to 

to see Hot Tuna, Joan Baez and David Grisman Quintet. Old peeps. 

Let's not forget Sha Na Na in that Woodstock Nuking

I bet the WWI generation blamed the Gay '90's gen for all their Woes.

And the American Revolution generation probably blamed their Forebears for getting Fat & Lazy drinking subsidized British Tea & using subsidized British stamps.

Sideshow sidestepping Ender's numbers. 

AARP erroneously calls older people paying their fair share an "age tax". I wonder if they think their members are too dumb to get it or too selfish to care.

http://www.aarp.org/politics-society/advocacy/info-2017/age-tax-is-unfai...

I always told the young guys @ my job to bring in bagels & donuts for breakfast & order pizza/chinese food for lunch every day, so as to kill me off sooner, so as to lessen the cost to them of my pension & free lifetime health care for me & my family.

AARP members are:

A.) too dumb to get it

B.) too selfish to care.

Um....B. The answer is B.

AARP has been sending me a membership packet every year since I turned 50, it's only $65 for a lifetime, they all go in the recycle bin.

But I am nonetheless Sincerely Glad to be adding to the Anger of the Youts.

I was reading about generational theft and found it interesting that the concept and discussions originate from right wing/tea party think tanks.

For some reason reforming entitlements to be more equitable/sustainable is some how only a conservative ideal. I legitimately don't understand how this is a right vs left thing, but it clearly is.

>>>>>>> I'd have to go with lack of spirituality.

I'd go with lack of Logical Reasoning but I'm an Engineer<<<

I see them as the same. Spirituality is Nature, and Nature is Logical Reasoning and superb Engineering. 

The Legalized Weed Economy will save the World.

 When you little kids get done whining about intergenerational theft ...

maybe you should ponder who paid for your fucking education  and who paid for the roads and who paid for the fucking country that you live in 

The Interstate Highway System built in the 1950's & 60's was only designed for a 25 year lifespan, but much of it still limps along today.  Nowadays major bridges are designed for a 100 year lifespan and are typically being "doubled" (ie 2 separate bridges carrying traffic in opposite directions but wide enough to squeeze both directions in if 1 bridge is disabled or needs rehab).  Exhibit A of this concept is the new Tappan Zee Bridge.

Market is breaking records. Someone is winning.

...

>>>>>>

I'm 45 a gen X 

Always fucking hated labels gen x included.

ok... lol...

>> maybe you should ponder who paid for your fucking education 

You are coming out way ahead. Feds spend $7 on elderly for every $1 on children. (And you're the last generation who is going to get those juicy returns on investment.) I guess education is cheap compare to Viagra and end of life care? 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2013/02/15/feds-spend-7-on-e...

>> who paid for the roads 

Federal spending on elderly is ~1.2 trillion per year and the entire cost of the entire interstate system for 1956-1991 was only 128 billion. It's insulting to compare the two (even when you add in the inflation).

The final estimate of the cost of the Interstate System was issued in 1991. It estimated that the total cost would be $128.9 billion, with a Federal share of $114.3 billion. 

https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/interstate/faq.cfm#question6

>>>>Jon mock me in my own thread!

yep.

Ry Cooder is a baby boomer.

Doesn't change anything, Six.

How does the disapproving gaze of history feel?

Every generation blames the bad shit on prior generations, and takes credit for the good stuff going on.

There's truth to that, BK; but objectively, the Baby Boomers are in fact the worst.

The Boomers get a bad rap because they started out as anti-establishment, and then became the establishment. It's the polar opposite thing. Gen X started out as apathetic, and are becoming the somewhat apathetic establishment. It's a less pronounced growth.

To be fair, though, the Boomers had much, much more to be anti-establishment about, and they paved the way for the apathy of future generations.

I think the Boomers get a bad rap because of the historic levels to which they have completely goat fucked literally every important issue of our time.

I think it's more about their results than where they started; as it should be. 

I think it's about money. 

At the same time, though, many Boomers are still the most outspoken on issues. I'll give it to you, many were in it for the party, not the politics, but isn't that the same for any culture?

Its also unfair to think that one generation could single-handedly change 3 centuries of cultural identity. The Boomers gave a good start, and now it's up to us to keep going. You can't blame the Boomers for Trump. Blame  the disaffected youth who didn't vote at all.

"Baby Boomer generation is made up of people born between 1945 and 1965."

So even Dr. Dre is a baby boomer! lol

It's all Dre's fault!

I think the Boomers can be blamed for Trump. They still compromise something like 1/3 of the voting bloc, so it's impossible to underestimate their influence on elections.

Their millennial offspring are now about equal in terms of voting power, but that's a subject for another thread.

It's okay, a hallmark of Gen Y/Millennials is to take no responsibility and place a lot of blame. That article above is a case-in-point. Plus, it was terribly written.

St. Mark's parents are baby boomers. It is their fault too. AND they procreated!

http://www.npr.org/2016/05/16/478237882/millennials-now-rival-boomers-as...

Boomers and Millennials make up equal parts of the voting bloc, but only 46% of the latter vote, compared to 69% of the former.

Across the nation, ultra-conservatives were voted in and the Reps took both houses, the Executive and a majority of governorships. However, the votes were extremely close. If the Millennials voted, instead of whining about Bernie, things would be very, very different. You can't blame that on the Boomers.

My parents were indeed Baby Boomers. It's embarrassing, but what can you do?

It's like being related to a crazy alcoholic totally oblivious to their own self-destruction and the harm they cause others. You know the holidays are going to be tense, but you still love them. 

I wish there was some kind of intervention we could do for the Baby Boomers. Unfortunately, events like Oldchella only exist to convince them of their own self-importance, despite the fact that the Stones haven't put out any good music in 40 years. They genuinely don't care. 

Mark - YOU are the product of baby boomers. By definition - you are part of the problem brought upon this world by Baby Boomers.

There is an intervention. Molly in the Thanksgiving stuffing.

I like this breakdown:

http://socialmarketing.org/archives/generations-xy-z-and-the-others/

Wrong, Six. I am part of the solution. My generation is now tasked with cleaning up the mess the Baby Boomers have left us. 

Thanks a lot, dude. 

Also want to mention that Carlos Santana has been added to Woodstock 50: Reckoning by Fire.

This is going to be so much fun.

Eat the brown acid. Please

-Henny Youngman

 Wrong, Mark. It is plain and simple logic

Were you created by baby boomers?

 Yes. 

 Did baby boomers create the problem? 

 Yes. 

Conclusion: you and the problems are one and the same.

;o)

>>>  If the Millennials voted, instead of whining about Bernie, things would be very, very different.

yep

This thread is pretty funny.

Your generation was born at the toxic dawn of the Atomic Age, Six.

It's not at all surprising that you lurch about like deformed mutants, is it? 

Ender, I think you are smart enough to infer that by "roads", I was implying the entire national infrastructure, including the economy that provides you with a decent living.

But hell, even if you want to take "roads" literally, you'd probably have to agree that it is wildly misleading to only look at the original construction cost of the interstate highway system. Most roads I drive on are not interstates.  How about you?   Is your garage connected to an interstate?

As far as health care costs being mostly spent on the old.....does that somehow surprise you?

Do you think we should spend less on health care for the elderly and more on health care for the children?

Medicare for all is the sane answer.

Old people get the most health care because we are falling the fuck apart.

Duh...just like it always was.

I am going to materialize from the cloudy void in fifty years or so and laugh like a drunken sailor at you young pups.  Oh wait, you will be old fucks then.

If you are lucky  

Sort of an Obi Wan thing, Aiq?

If you find yourself wanting to move beyond "generational finger-pointing" - and are serious about the situation America finds itself in - check out this blog: http://marginalrevolution.com/

For further reading - I recommend this new book: https://www.amazon.com/Complacent-Class-Self-Defeating-Quest-American/dp...

Oh, yes, before you even post it - drug-band show-going Zoners are definitely part of the complacent class.

I'm not even vaguely interested in supporting any of your Baby Boomer "solutions" to the situation in this country, Six.

Baby Boomers aren't capable of large scale problem solving. We have a 25 year track record that proves, conclusively, exactly that.

>>  If the Millennials voted, instead of whining about Bernie, things would be very, very different.

<<yep

Weird, the millennials I come in contact are, by and far, more locally engaged politically than any of their older counterparts. They are focused on solving local problems in all areas and are really creative and come out in droves to volunteer... hard working people.  I see it every day.  

I see a lot of people rolling up their sleeves and getting involved.

What I don't see is whining.

Sorry I mistook your serious concern for more than just your usual trolling, Mark.

I would agree completely, HL73. I have two millennials in the family who are both very politically engaged on many issues. They do not whine and both work very hard. In general - I have met many millennials who also are hard working and engaged and who do not whine.

I do know of a generation that whines, though. On display in this very thread, as a matter of fact.

I'm not trolling the Baby Boomers, Six.

History is finally leveling its righteous judgement, and needless to say, it isn't looking good.

No reason to repeat yourself. I am well aware that you are adept at pointing your finger. Too bad you don't have any solutions, or at least, in all these times you have whined on about baby boomers you have not offered any. That doesn't look good either.

Our kids, Six, are Generation Z. Your oldest is actually a Millennial, but on the cusp. It's hard to lump someone born in 1993 in with someone born in 1977.

The voting numbers for Millennials don't lie. There's a lot of blame and complain.

>>It's hard to lump someone born in 1993 in with someone born in 1977.

They should not be lumped in together.

1977 is firmly in Gen X.

1993 is firmly in Gen Y/ Millennials.

Dates for Millenials are more vague: "There are no precise dates for when this cohort starts or ends; demographers and researchers typically use the early 1980s as starting birth years and the mid-1990s to early 2000s as ending birth years."

Easy, although not entirely accurate, 20 year guide:

1905 - 1925 The Greatest generation

1925-1945 (No name - "Second wave Greatest Generation?")

1945-1965 Baby Boomer

1965 - 1985 Gen X

1985 - 2005 Gen Y Millenials

the torch has already been passed incase anyone  has noticed. 6'r and his ilk are just running on fumes. 

I didn't read the link in OP or this thread. As a Baby Boomer I just might be ignorant that "everything' has been destroyed.

KABLOOIE equals destroyed.

I see things every day.

Every thing is gone, destroyed, kablooie.

Just didn't realize.

There is nothing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/we-thought-gen-x-was-a-bu...

"Gen X looks like Paul Ryan."

Hahahahahahahahahahaha...that's awesome!

Paul Ryan is an attractive man.

.....

Paul Ryan is an attractive man.

An attractive man with two faces, no backbone and a touch o' the hypocrisy.

Sure, blame your parents, deflecting again.

Age is an attitude. Get off my yard and go clean your room.  No wifi for you!

funny slack!

Selfishness didn't begin with baby boomers, and isn't necessarily psychotic. Can we characterize a generation in any one way? I think the "greatest generation" hype is a buncha baloney too.

>>>Age is an attitude

No. Age is actually a real, measurable thing, as you can see from the helpful charts Sixy posted above^.

Are you one of those awkward old people who walks up to young people at shows like "'Sup guys!?! This is gonna be sizzle for rizzle my nizzles! Right? Amiright? Hashtag awesome, y'all! What what!"

Just curious.

Trolls love stereotypes. It's a fact.

St. Paul (The Ryan)

lol

yes 6, it's obviously an obvious troll thread

but some debatable arguments...

>>>You guys didn't pay in enough or have enough kids to keep the programs afloat.

"average government spending on each elderly person is $26,355"

If I retire in 12 years (at age 65) and live 20 more years (average age for an American male is about 79), I will soak up around $530,000.

But I will have paid in waaaay more than $1060 per year to SS and Medicare (probably easily 10 times that) in the 50 years I will have worked, so actually I will be footing the bill for at least a dozen others who, for whatever reason, did not pay in enough (or at all).

Also, we have no kids, which saves the Govt another $7k per year.

So....

you kids are welcome!

No Mark Im not. I am myself, and it works out fine. Im livin the dream and I am thankful everyday.  I hope you get there.

I know you think you are good at sarcasm, but it often fails.  You aren't as funny as you think you are and boy do you need some fresh air.

Sixy, I've noticed you've been keen on comparing me to your political boogymen lately, which is a well-known (and rather lazy) trolling technique.

Just wanted to mention that I'm paying attention, Eva Braun. 

Having no kids is key to enjoying an early retirement. Fact.

The only thing you can really blame the baby boomers for is spitting out too many gen x and y babies, second of the long list of problems is the gen x and y can't solve their own problems or fend for themselves and want the baby boomers to fix everything, do all the heavy lifting and do all the thinking..

I dont see it. The age of Aquarius for god's sake.

Hall - I am at the end of the "boom". I hope to retire as well as you do - but I have my doubts. I have done well and invested wisely, but retirement still seems like a dream on many days.

Retirement age is now 67, i believe, not 65 and will probably move up when you get older. In order to get full benefits - you may have to wait until you are 69.

At least the two kids I have will help pay into the system and will pay part of both of our social security someday - if it still exists.

Paul Ryan is not a political boogyman. He's an attractive man. Pay attention.

>>>>If I retire in 12 years (at age 65) and live 20 more years (average age for an American male is about 79), I will soak up around $530,000.

But I will have paid in waaaay more than $1060 per year to SS and Medicare (probably easily 10 times that) in the 50 years I will have worked, so actually I will be footing the bill for at least a dozen others who, for whatever reason, did not pay in enough (or at all).

Also, we have no kids, which saves the Govt another $7k per year.

So....

you kids are welcome!

Exactly Hall,

>> Also, we have no kids, which saves the Govt another $7k per year.

No, it would have been better if you boomers had more kids and raised the taxpayer:beneficiary ratio to keep entitlement programs afloat.

>> If I retire in 12 years (at age 65) and live 20 more years (average age for an American male is about 79), I will soak up around $530,000.

Maybe if there was no inflation in the cost of medical care. And you won't get the average, you'll get more as a high wage earner (I'm guessing here as you live in CA).

Having more kids is better?

Having no kids is better?

I swear I have encountered this argument before somewhere...

I plan on working beyond 70 to have my retirement home paid in full before i retire, looking at my 401k first then SS and medicare would be welcome icing on the cake.

slipper futures

>>>Paul Ryan is not a political boogyman

He will be, little buddy. He will be. 

I am not your little buddy. I'm probably more like the Skipper to your Gilligan.

>>>Maybe if there was no inflation

lol, IF there was no inflation in this world, people like Sixer and myself who paid in way more than we'll ever get back wouldn't be wondering IF we can retire someday. (not really lol-ing)

Exactly, Hall.

>> I'm probably more like the Skipper to your Gilligan.

More like Beaver to my Eddie Haskell.

Let's keep it real here, Six 

They stopped sending me a SS statement years ago, twenty years ago they recommended i work to age 65.

I hope it works out, Fog.  I also plan to have a house paid off and a nice chunk saved, but obviously the big question is how much is enough? 

IF I could count on SS and Medicare to actually pay me what I have coming, I could actually retire at a nice early age (59 1/2), but instead (and if I stay healthy) I will probably try to keep working into my 70's just to give myself the best possible chance at keeping a decent [California/Hawaii] standard of living while not outliving my savings.

If we were really keeping it real, then you are Butthead to my Beavis.

>>They stopped sending me a SS statement years ago

No more statements, Fog. Now you log in to https://www.ssa.gov/myaccount/

We are planning and looking now, keep going back and forth between Berkley springs wv near the cacopon river or Luray va in the mountains near the shenandoah.(both areas have great smallmouth bass fishing) NFW are we retiring in this area, property tax is just crazy.  Having a vision and going for it is all you need.

I would love nothing more than to retire to coastal Oregon or NorCal, but my real affordable choices are The Berkshires, Asheville, NC or Costa Rica.

>>>If we were really keeping it real, then you are Butthead to my Beavis

I'm sorry, Six, but that simply doesn't work as an accurate comparison.

You are Butters to the rest of the Zone's South Park.

Let's consider this matter closed. 

I'm Butters and you are Eric Cartman. There. That's settled.

Solid choices there, people are catching on to Asheville. Probably won't be that affordable for long, beautiful area and town. Charlottesville recently was rated highly, too many people for my taste though.

Buy the lot in Costa Rica now, ship the tiny house later, done and done.

^^^

Yes. That is an excellent illustration of how St. Mark Zones.

Six, did you happen to catch the thread on civility this week? I really think you should read it.

I'm here to talk about ideas and solutions related to the thread topic. Like how Woodstock 50: The Final Burning offers the perfect opportunity to wrap the Baby Boomers is a righteous blanket of cleansing atomic hellfire. 

That's how we younger folks get shit done.

Can we all agree that Gen Z puts filters on their spliff because the collective "they" can't figure out how to roll a good one?

& Gen Z ers consume shitty Chinese synthetic Bath Salt "Molly" @ drugband shows.  Git yer Boner outta my Ass, you young Whippersnapper!!!!!

no boomers no cell phones, computers, hd tv's, communication satellites, & amazing technological advances in all aspects of life today. you'd still be reading comic books in your parents' basements. maybe it would be a better world after all.

No more statements, Fog. Now you log in to https://www.ssa.gov/myaccount/  <<<

I still get a statement every year.

Guys, upon some reflection, I can see how the whole nuclear Woodstock option may have been a little extreme.

I'd like to apologize to the Zoner Baby Boomers for suggesting they would have to sit through a Joan Baez set. That wasn't cool.

Dude, they sleep through Metallica sets. You really think they could sit through Joan Baez?

>>>   no boomers no cell phones, computers, hd tv's, communication satellites, & amazing technological advances in all aspects of life today.

Hillman is doing a better job than me explaining what I meant by "roads".

>>>  you'd still be reading comic books in your parents' basements. maybe it would be a better world after all.

I think the smartest thing I have ever heard of was my Grandpa deciding to ignore the news for the rest of his life once he turned 60.

If I had a dollar for every time I've heard a boomer complain about tv, computers, cell phones...

You'd be able to buy yourself that new pool net you've always wanted?

Burn sauce!

This thread turned out better than I could have hoped.

>>>Can we all agree that Gen Z puts filters on their spliff because the collective "they" can't figure out how to roll a good one?

Yes and someone needs to tell them smoking out of a plastic water bottle is a really bad idea.

and if you think an arbitrary "cut off date" really defines someone as a member of one generation or another, you're really fucking stupid. but it's your right to be fucking stupid.

If I were lumped in with the Boomers, I'd be looking for any and every way to disassociate myself too.

Six made up his own generation a few years ago for that very reason. I get it.

If I were lumped in with the Boomers, I'd be looking for any and every way to disassociate myself too.

Blah blah blah.

We did our work before you were born, you are the beneficiaries. You're welcome.

Definitely a lot of truth to that Judith. But I would say that the investment stop paying out after 2000. 

People today don't care about the future. 

Gen X Is The Most Screwed Generation When It Comes To Real Estate

https://www.google.com/amp/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_56fad298e4b0143a9b...

>>>We did our work before you were born, you are the beneficiaries. You're welcome.

Are we talking about the unprecedented income disparity, the massive prison population, the deregulation of the financial institutions, or the looming global environmental catastrophe?

I just want to make sure I'm thanking you and the other Boomers for the right "work." You guys have done a bang up job.

Gen X is by far the whiniest generation ever. That has been firmly established in this thread.

Six made up his own generation a few years ago for that very reason. I get it.

That would be Jonathan Pontell, not me, who first coined the phrase "Generation Jones" and the ideas behind it, Mark.

This is easily researched on that internet you claim to be so good at.

Everybody knows your real name is Jonathan Pontell, and the "Generation Jones" thing is totally made up, Six.

Thanks for doxing me on my real name here.

Sorry Jonathan. 

Can somebody post a picture of an ice shelf collapsing and write the word "whiners" under it?

I'd appreciate it. Thanks.

 Doesn't mean you're not a generation of whiners. Since were only, you know, just talking stereotypes.

The CEO-to-worker compensation ratio, 20-to-1 in 1965, peaked at 376-to-1 in 2000 and was 303-to-1 in 2014, far higher than in the 1960s, 1970s, 1980s, or 1990s.

Whiners!

>>>>> Doesn't mean you're not a generation of whiners. 

Well, we did have the shitiest generation of all raising us.  All in all we turned out pretty good.

Even tho its pretty Hokey, I kinda do agree w/the Generation Jones thing:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Jones

Overall, all these "Generation ____" are far too broad a time frame.  I was born in late 1960, which is 5 years before the end of the "baby boom" but I certainly don't feel like I ever had any part of the typical baby boom experience (ie Vietnam, the Draft, Protests, Summer of Love, British Invasion, etc).  I was 8 when Woodstock happened, was in my early 20's when the TV show Thirtysomething was running, and the music of my high school generation was Kiss, Queen, Peter Frampton, Aerosmith, Foghat, BTO, Bad Company, etc (ie all CRAP).  So the equivalent Hollywood movie experience to my high school years would be "Dazed and Confused".  Not really a stereotypical Baby Boomer movie.

Not that I'm excusing or defending the perceived or actual Stereotypical behaviors of anyone's age groups . . .

>>>>>>> All in all we turned out pretty good.

Well Hoov's folks are Mormons, their ability to raise Solid offspring more than make up for their Whackjob beliefs.  That's why he's a fulltime Dad & not off selling his scooter . . .

SS also distancing himself from the Boomers.

We've got room form you in Gen X, sir. Hop aboard.

I am merely saying I was apparently Cheated out of the Boomer experiences I supposedly had.  Hell, I only got to enjoy Quaaludes a handful of times.  Not to mention Panama Red.

>>>>>Not to mention Panama Red.

Boomers went from Panama Red to Panera Bread.

Starchild to Starbucks.

Worst. Generation. Ever.

Nowadays all you Legal State Pot Snobs would consider Panama Red to be Schwag

And for the record, I never patronize Starbucks.  If forced to procure coffee on the go, it's either Mc D's or DD.

Full disclosure: I went to Starbucks this morning.

Baby boomers are the demographic group born during the post–World War II baby boom, approximately between the years 1946 and 1964. This includes people who are between 53 and 71 years old in 2017, according to the U.S. Census Bureau.[1] However, according to the Strauss–Howe generational theory, baby boomers are defined as people born between 1943 and 1960, which would include people who are between 57 and 74 years old in 2017.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_boomers

at my age (53), I am a boomer according to the census bureau, but a GenXer according that independent group (whoeverthehelltheyare)... and I really don't know (or care) which one I am more akin to, so if it ever comes up in 3D, I think I'll just pick the best one based on who is asking (kind of like saying I'm Canadian when I'm abroad during Republican presidencies).

Is dunkin donuts even coffee? blech

Starbucks is the 80's indica kind bud of coffee compared to the Mexican brick week that is DD/Mcd's. (Peet's is GSC).

They make a decent latte, Hall.

Especially when I'm rolling with a munchkin in the carseat. Gotta love that drive thru.

Add ageism to St. Snark's list of "attributes".  

You are trying to contribute. I get it.

FRESH. AIR.

> (Peet's is GSC)

Usually start my day with Major Dickason's blend and Gorilla Glue 4.

>>However, according to the Strauss–Howe generational theory, baby boomers are defined as people born between 1943 and 1960, which would include people who are between 57 and 74 years old in 2017.

In this case i would be out of the baby boomer group, being 54. Not that i care either way.

When i get to Cabo i plan on requesting Molson Ale everywhere i go then pretend to act disappointed when they say all we have is Pacifico.

You know what I'm looking forward to most about my new troll Fly?

Getting to write corny shit like "Buzz off, Fly."

This is going to be fun, in like an 80's movie kinda way.

We haven't even been back to the moon since the boomer's took over.

Most. Whining. Ever.

How about a little snack with that Grande Latte, Martha?

6,

I had a childhood dream to go to the moon. You guys stole that dream from me.

Life is suffering, ender.

How old are you?

Oh look. It's Java Dave.

You know who might actually be worse than actual Baby Boomers? Gen Xers who wish they were Baby Boomers.

Think the Stones will play Satisfaction on their next tour? Stay tuned, folks.

You know who might actually be worse than actual Baby Boomers?

You?

Actually actual you?

>> How old are you?

Same age as Timmy and 73.

You were born in 73? The Apollo program ended before you were born. You needed to have a different dream.

Hey Sixy, quick break from the action here.

I'm trying to ship Chef Bill something and UPS isn't recognizing the address. Cant get in touch to confirm, and I'm heading to UPS this afternoon. Can you hit me up offline?

Zoneroftheyear at the Gmail dot com

Also, something something you ruined the world blah blah blah.

You really have to respect Flies, most people incorrectly think flies are dumb. Flies are actually highly intelligent.

great combo, Roland

emotw

>> You were born in 73?

No, 73guy, not 1973.

Okay - were all three of you born before or after 1973?

Also - I am only 4 years older than Hall. I did not realize he and I were that close in age.

>> Okay - were all three of you born before or after 1973?

After.

If after 1973 - then the moon dream was really over long ago.

On the plus side - if you worked hard and saved - there is a new private company named SpaceX flying there soon. See if you can get a ticket. They must have some kind of pre-sale code to save you some bucks.

Elon Musk will deliver us the moon travel we were promised.

He's a Gen Xer, FYI.

Kellyanne Conway is a GenXer too. It cuts both ways.

Kellyanne Conway is a GenXer too. It cuts both ways.

Yes, but she works for a Baby Boomer. Arguably the worst Baby Boomer ever.

Even Charles Manson had decent taste in music.

My musical hero Miles Davis was a member of the Greatest Generation. *sigh* 

Jerry and Phil - both born before the boom.

Zappa too.

It's the little things that make you smile.

Forget your troubles for a while....

6, not every Boomer is a bad person.  They still ruined a great country.

>>>Jerry and Phil - both born before the boom. Zappa too.

I dunno... my dad was born the same year (and month) as Jerry, which was at the very tail end of the Silent/Greatest Generation, but to me they were basically Boomers since they were too young (and insulated) to have the Wars and Depression affect them like it did their parents (the stories my grandmother told of living in Oklahoma during the depression were GNARLY, as were the Great Depression and WW2 stories I heard from a vet in my wife's family).