I have 2 Tickets for West Palm - Delta keeping me away
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Hi All,
I was hoping to catch the West Palm Dead and Co show but with an unvaccinated 11 year old at home, don't feel safe traveling at the moment. They are excellent seats, Section 2, Row R. Face value is $336.00 ea, but will entertain a fair offer. Was hoping to catch this birthday show, but not meant to be.
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Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly
$336 each? Wow.
No spot taken, good luck.
How do the Deadco guys walk
with balls that big?
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: pride of cupertino
They are told to charge a
They are told to charge a certain amount that people are willing to pay.
The only way it has ever been possible to change these ticket prices for all the big acts is if people simply didn’t pay those prices and the tickets didn’t get sold. But, people pay the prices, and the tickets get sold. Very simple.
If only the lawn area was sold and the ENTIRE front reserved sections were empty, that would send a pretty huge message. Let me know when that happens.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: New & Improved
>> They are told to charge a
>> They are told to charge a certain amount that people are willing to pay. <<
Phish refuses to play that game.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: GDTRFB
$673 for that set of 2 tix is
$672 for that set of 2 tix is more than I paid for 6 (2 each night) great seats at Hollywood Bowl...and still too much. Nice offer and stay safe - enjoy the show for those attending.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: doctor
Weir and his bandmates have
Weir and his bandmates have greedy kids! All they have to do is say No! It's their ballgame.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: donster
Tough call for bands ....
Tough call for bands .... they either charge big or Stub Hub gets the money .
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: NYC
This was going to be the
This was going to be the first time seeing my best friend and my brother since before Covid and it's my birthday, so a bit of a splurge. I paid $56 for my Citi Field ticket with good seats so it is what it is. The music business is not a non-profit and I think Dead & Co do make some less expensive seats available more than other bands. But if you look at the demographics, it is dominated by the mid-80's heads. (my first show was 83). They know that a large chunk of the audience is at the age and the point in their lives where they have disposable income and can afford certain things. It's simply supply and demand.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: pride of cupertino
If people weren’t paying
If people weren’t paying those prices, bands wouldn’t charge those prices.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Philzone Refugee
From the mouth of Frank Zappa
From the mouth of Frank Zappa on his 1981 opus You Are What You Is:
Free is when you don't have to do nothing or pay for nothing.
and
Do what you want to, do what you will, just don't mess up your neighbor's deal.
and
If I was at the concert right now, I'd be totally ripped. I could tie my headband tight for that extra rush during Jerry's guitar solo...
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly
I understand the economics of it, but that is an exorbitant amount to charge to see most anyone, especially a cover band.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: doctor
Look at it in terms of a
Look at it in terms of a person who makes minimum wage. One ticket and party favors is a weeks pay. 30-40 years ago it was a few hours pay!
So fuck the greedy fucks. It's a rich mans show. Poor people stay home or don't pay you rent.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: doctor
2021
2021
State Name Minimum Wage Rate Department Name Rate Adjusted Yearly
Alabama $7.25 / hour Alabama Department of Labor
Alaska $10.34 / hour Alaska Department of Labor and Workforce Development
Arizona $12.15 / hour Industrial Commission of Arizona ✓
Arkansas $11.00 / hour Arkansas Department of Labor
California $13.00 / hour California Division of Labor Standards Enforcement and the Office of the Labor Commissioner
Colorado $12.32 / hour Colorado Department of Labor and Employment ✓
Connecticut $12.00 / hour Connecticut Department of Labor
Delaware $9.25 / hour Delaware Department of Labor ✓
Florida $8.65 / hour Florida Division of Workforce Services ✓
Georgia $7.25 / hour Georgia Department of Labor
Hawaii $10.10 / hour Hawaii Department of Labor & Industrial Relations
Idaho $7.25 / hour Idaho Department of Labor
Illinois $11.00 / hour Illinois Department of Labor
Indiana $7.25 / hour Indiana Department of Labor
Iowa $7.25 / hour Iowa Labor Services Division
Kansas $7.25 / hour Kansas Department of Labor
Kentucky $7.25 / hour Kentucky Labor Cabinet
Louisiana $7.25 / hour Louisiana Workforce Commission
Maine $12.15 / hour Maine Department of Labor
Maryland $11.75 / hour Maryland Department of Labor, Licensing and Regulation
Massachusetts $13.50 / hour Massachusetts Executive Office of Labor & Workforce Development
Michigan $9.65 / hour Michigan Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs (LARA)
Minnesota $10.08 / hour Minnesota Department of Labor and Industry
Mississippi $7.25 / hour Mississippi Department of Employment Security
Missouri $10.30 / hour Missouri Labor and Industrial Relations Commission ✓
Montana $8.75 / hour Montana Department of Labor and Industry ✓
Nebraska $9.00 / hour Nebraska Department of Labor
Nevada $9.75 / hour Nevada Department of Business and Industry ✓
New Hampshire $7.25 / hour New Hampshire Department of Labor
New Jersey $12.00 / hour New Jersey Department of Labor and Workforce Development ✓
New Mexico $10.50 / hour New Mexico Department of Work Force Solutions
New York $12.50 / hour New York Department of Labor
North Carolina $7.25 / hour North Carolina Department of Labor
North Dakota $7.25 / hour North Dakota Department of Labor
Ohio $8.80 / hour Ohio Department of Commerce ✓
Oklahoma $7.25 / hour Oklahoma Department of Labor
Oregon $12.00 / hour Oregon Bureau of Labor and Industries ✓
Pennsylvania $7.25 / hour Pennsylvania Department of Labor and Industry
Rhode Island $11.50 / hour Rhode Island Department of Labor and Training
South Carolina $7.25 / hour South Carolina Department of Labor, Licensing & Regulations
South Dakota $9.45 / hour South Dakota Department of Labor and Regulation ✓
Tennessee $7.25 / hour Tennessee Department of Labor & Workforce Development
Texas $7.25 / hour Texas Workforce Commission
Utah $7.25 / hour Utah Labor Commission
Vermont $11.75 / hour Vermont Department of Labor
Virginia $7.25 / hour Virginia Department of Labor and Industry
Washington $13.69 / hour Washington Department of Labor and Industries ✓
West Virginia $8.75 / hour West Virginia Division of Labor
Wisconsin $7.25 / hour Wisconsin Department of Workforce Development
Wyoming $7.25 / hour Wyoming Department of Workforce Service
Puerto Rico $6.55 / hour Puerto Rico Department of Labor and Human Resources
District of Columbia $15.00 / hour District of Columbia Department of Employment Services
Federal $7.25 / hour Federal Department of Labor
I guess these people will need a miracle to see a Dead show.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: treat island
As my grandkids say, "I hate
As my grandkids say, "I hate Covid". As I say, fuck covid and the mouth breathing anti-vaxxers/anti-maskers it's still riding in on.
I'm sorry you can't see your bro, your dear friend, and all of the things you had planned, VtHead.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank
Context, people, context.
Context, people, context. That cost is for "excellent seats," which have a lower supply and higher demand.
I've never paid more than $50 (base) for DeadCo tix, which is a fine price for a 3.5 hour concert in 2021. I think my last GD tix, 1995, was $39.
Working stiffs can definitely afford to see DeadCo.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: NYC
It is a lot to pay for a
It is a lot to pay for a ticket, but that is way of the music industry. There is plenty of great low cost and/or free music out there for us all, Dead and Non-dead related. We should all take advantage and support our local bands and local venues, it's more important than ever.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Ken D.
I don't get the allure of
I don't get the allure of paying big bucks to get up front at a show. We all know what Bob, Mickey, and Billy look like and they are not getting prettier with age. Also, by being up so close, you miss much of the light show. Plus, I would much rather hang out in an area with space to dance and freak rather than be packed in, especially these days. But to each their own and its true, the band wouldn't be selling tickets for that cost if people weren't buying.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: doctor
LOL @Bri excellent seats cost
LOL @Bri excellent seats cost $8-9 in the early 80's before your time. A few hours work at most for minimum wagers!!!!!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Zzzzzz
>>>>I don't get the allure of
>>>>I don't get the allure of paying big bucks to get up front at a show.
Partially agree. I go to so few shows these days I'm willing to pay a premium for front row balcony. No interest in being in the very front of everyone as you say but I do like to have choice seating.
At a shed, I'm happy on the lawn where I'll have space.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: doctor
@Portland Ken But to each
@Portland Ken But to each their own and its true, the band wouldn't be selling tickets for that cost if people weren't buying.
True.....And the GD haven't been edgy since the 80's or before. It's just the culmination of years of hero worship and ego. They think they deserve that kinda loot.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank
Well, Doolittle, seeing as
Well, Doolittle, seeing as how you probably weren't going to see DeadCo in West Palm, I don't see what you're bitching about. Many tickets for the NYC area shows (Bethel, Citi, SPAC) were in that $50 range, with way better deals to be had. A minimum wage worker could see them on a few hours of wages.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: doctor
Dumb argument Bri as prices
Dumb argument Bri as prices were not set up that way. Plus Ticketbastards fees. A simple man doesn't stand a chance to see a popular show! Forget the Rolling Stones!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Thumbkinetic
LOL @Bri excellent seats cost
LOL @Bri excellent seats cost $8-9 in the early 80's before your time. <<
Really? Cuz I think crappy seats at Giants' Stadium were $12.50 in '78. I bought those seats at a Fishing & Tackle store. In Jersey City. That seems weird in retrospect.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: doctor
https://www.deadstubs.com
https://www.deadstubs.com/showlist.php?band=1&year=1980
Yes REALLY!!
Show prices differentiate but are some shows for $7.50 Maybe less??
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: skifurthur
Just stopping in to inject a
Just stopping in to inject a little background on why ticket prices are so high these days...it mostly comes down to the fact that revenue from released music has dried up. With so many people streaming recordings now, a performer HAS to get as much money from touring and the merchandise that goes along with tours to even pay the bills for recording new material. If a performer is on a major label and does a full on in studio production, after sales of that product, they are often left owing the record company a few hundred thousand dollars. The costs of touring, especially with a big act, have also gone through the roof. Dead & Co probably would flop if they eliminated their stage set up with sound and lights running well over a million for a tour. While some might be ok with just a bunch of dudes on stage playing without top-notch sound and lights, the majority would stay home. In these covid days, most large acts have a full-time doctor/medical protocol head on staff and you better believe that those people take home north of 100k a tour (probably more than some of the people on stage).
Touring isn't anything like it used to be and since it's the primary source of income for performers, they need to charge a lot more to provide a good product.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: GDTRFB
I remember Deer Creek '89
I remember Deer Creek '89 being lower cost than others around that time. The collection via the link above shows it at $16.50 and I think parking was included too. Good Times. Gone are the Days in so many ways.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: doctor
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: GDTRFB
Old school rockers had a Dr
Old school rockers had a Dr on staff for the eazy flow of prescriptions alone!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: El Nino
^^^^ This but don't forget to
^^^^ This but don't forget to blame the Eagles who showed everyone that they were way undercharging. I tried to hold out, and it still pains me even though I have the money but I've given up. It's never going back. It's just the price of seeing a band these days.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: El Nino
Yeah but by 89 and 90 they
Yeah but by 89 and 90 they were $18.50 and $21.50 more than double what the fuck!!!!!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: doctor
Cole
Cole
One of my first shows
My third GD show actuallly. Saw JGB a few times before.
Only $9.00 in 1981!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Thumbkinetic
Maybe the Giant's upcharge
Maybe the Giant's upcharge covered the giant forklifts/operators for the supplemental speakers.
Or maybe just big market/big dollahs.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: doctor
^ Or taking the whole family
^ Or taking the whole family for an Egypt blowout!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Localcountyline
^That is why they did that
^That is why they did that big show.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Where Does The Time Go?
i've caught every Atlanta D&C
i've caught every Atlanta D&C show, plus Dallas & Austin a few years ago, and have never paid for a ticket.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank
What the fuck do 1983 ticket
What the fuck do 1983 ticket prices have to do with anything? It costs me $10 to see a lame Dead cover band at a local bar.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: doctor
^ .......
^ .......
I deleted my response !
Don't want this absurdity to go on and on!
Get a grip Bri!! If you don;t understand currant economics keep quiet!
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Briank
The current situation is that
The current situation is that you're whining about ticket prices for a band you do want to see. The other 20,000-35,000 people who go to each show seem to be able to buy their tickets, and by most reports they have a fucking awesome time.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Thumbkinetic
https://www.ishs.org/ishs
https://www.ishs.org/ishs-article/135_16
Currant Economics
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Highnote
Maybe a little perspective on
Maybe a little perspective on cost.
Everything is really expensive now. Young people have it hard.
Rent - used to be cheap, now you can't find a decent place for under 1500.
Eating out - $15 for a hamburger.
Car - good luck.
Skiing - We used to go to Eldora for 97 cents for night skiing and then there was a band in the lodge. Now it's over $100 and Summit county is closer to two bills.
Football tickets have always been disproportionately expensive.
I remember bitching about the Dead charging $12. because it used to be $7.50 I also once paid a scalper $100 for a 5th row ticket to Radio City Music Hall on Halloween 1980. I was flush that year. Adjusted for cost of living - well you know. For years we could work part time and still have enough to ski, go to Red Rocks and still have money for a B double E double R - U - N beer run.
Gone are the days............Now there are a lot of things I don't do for fun because of the $. That's OK , no shortage of free/cheap fun - just gotta poke around.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Highnote
Bluest - you need more
Bluest - you need more currant data.........
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: Hitchhiker awaiting "true call"
These are football game
These are football game prices. No big deal.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: jazfish
$51 + fees lawn in Dallas.
$51 + fees lawn in Dallas. Lawn is cool with me.. Three hour drive with plenty of CC points. Might end up being zero cost. I'm planning it. I can actually see a chance of a getaway. I haven't slowed down for quite the time now..
Been reading good and bad reviews.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: NYC
It's and interesting debate
It's and interesting debate but I think in the end the economics of concerts and having a portion of the tickets expensive allows them to offer $50 seats as well. If you want true democratic pricing and want everyone to pay the same then all tickets would be over $100 for everyone.
As an update, I was able to resell my tickets on Ticketmaster for exactly what I paid for them including fees and taxes. Compared to other tickets being resold in the same section mine were just about half the price.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: skifurthur
If you want true democratic
There is a lot of truth in this statement for top tier performers in a stadium setting. Bruce Springsteen sells most of his tickets at just over the $100 mark (incl fees) The more democratic part is if you buy a floor GA ticket you can be part of the "pit" lottery and if you have the right number on your wristband, you can be up front and if you have the best number, you and your party are on the rail. He did that so everyone has a chance of being all the way up front. I also liked when U2 did a ticket scan if you had floor GA and if your ticket scanned right, you were up front.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly
^i expect to pay $100 and change for an actual seat. Too old to be standing for the entire show.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: skifurthur
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Pretty much the same top cost for the better seats. Discount for upper decks, Usual ticket sale rules apply but in the case of Springsteen, they hold back a nice chuck of excellent seats to release periodically leading up to the show and keeping the prices down on secondary market. It's quite common to get the best of the best stadium seats on TM day before and day of the show.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: nebulous nelly
>excellent seats to release periodically leading up to the show and keeping the prices down on secondary market. It's quite common to get the best of the best stadium seats on TM day before and day of the show<
Hell, that's been true for a long time. Was in third row at the tower theater, upper darby pa. for elvis Costello in '86. Bought the tickets at noon the day of show.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: skifurthur
I agree that you've been able
I agree that you've been able to score great seats at the last moment for years now. There is always last minute no show on guest lists and production hold backs to be had if you are ready when they drop. There is a slight difference in the Springsteen set up though. These seats are contractually held back and are always earmarked for the regular ticket buying public. In some of his larger markets, (Boston, Philly, NYC Metro and a few others) these drops of tickets can be massive at stadium shows. It's pretty common for 200 - 500 excellent tickets show up close to game day. I've seen scalpers outside the venue drop their prices by half or more when it happens. Too many people know this happens every time. Good for fans, not so good for scalpers.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: JP (J Bomb)
Would you rather pay $15.98
Would you rather pay $15.98 for a CD and go to reasonably priced concerts or have unlimited streaming for $10 bucks and have to navigate the convoluted web of elastic ticket sales? That's really been the big shift.
Music fans are the driver's seat, unless you are someone who absolutely needs their tickets when they immediately go on sale.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: skyjunk
In Orlando, they hold back
In Orlando, they hold back tickets to satisfy the tourist industry, and Disney. High rollers want last minute ticket when in town. Day of the show though, Disney and company will release what they have not moved back to the Arena. Used to always get great seats by going directly to the Arena's box office when it opened on the day of the show. I live farther away now and have not done it in years though.
Top of Page Bottom of Page PermalinkFull Name: MarkD
When I found out I could go
When I found out I could go afterall, I went to Music Plus and got front row center for Jerry's 50th Birthday show. Day before the show. Still have the face mask somewhere. Jerry's head of security also worked for me at some of the Desert parties I used to put on in so-cal. He got me backstage for that show.