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Not quite Ice Nine but we're getting there......
What scientists found trapped in a diamond: a type of ice not known on Earth
Trapped in the rigid structure of diamonds formed deep in the Earth’s crust, scientists have discovered a form of water ice that was not previously known to occur naturally on our planet.
The finding, published Thursday in Science, represents the first detection of naturally occurring ice-VII ever found on Earth. And as sometimes happens in the scientific process, it was discovered entirely by accident.
Ice-VII is about one-and-a-half times as dense as the regular ice we put in our drinks and skate on in winter, and the crystalline structure of its atoms is different as well.
In normal ice, known as ice-I, the oxygen atoms arrange themselves in a hexagonal shape. In ice-VII these atoms are arranged in a cubic shape.
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Water occurs in pretty much
Water occurs in pretty much all rock, at all depths, so not surprising...
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It's dinosaur tears
It's dinosaur tears
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"Water occurs in pretty much
"Water occurs in pretty much all rock, at all depths, so not surprising... "
What's surprising is that they found this atomic arrangement on earth.....
"Scientists believe that ice-VII may be found in great abundance in the solar system, perhaps in the interior of ice moons like Enceladus and Europa, or as part of the ocean floor of Titan. But they did not think it could naturally occur on Earth."
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It's the structure of the
It's the structure of the atoms that is different.
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Corrected.
Corrected.
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I wasn't correcting you, I
I wasn't correcting you, I was explaining what I feel the difference is to Noodler. I think this is just more proof that we are stardust, we are golden...
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Things form the way they do
Things form the way they do on a molecular level due to gravity, electromagnetic attraction, and molecular movement...so temperature. Atoms arrange into molecules in response to those 3 forces. Planets with different gravities and temperatures will cause atoms to align differently. Thus the molecular structure is definitely from something extraterrestrial that came in contact with our planet. If it were from earth, it would have molecular structures reflective of the gravity and temperature of earth.
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It's amazing what really goes
It's amazing what really goes on that we're just starting to figure out. I already have the geologists at Dogami (Oregon department of geology and mineral industries) wanting us to write some reports on what we've found in the last few years, some goes completely against standard geologic current understanding. I found 2 Jadite, 1 rhodonite, along with garnets deposits, where they don't exactly belong...
Diamonds are way more common that folks think too... around us it's in serpentine (oceanic basement rock, has platinum, chromite, nickel too). And i've found water in Agates, Quartz Crystals, etc, a very common thing to occur, so to have a high pressure / temp situation in the mantle form this type of water is of no surprise, let alone that it would be trapped / preserved in a diamond.
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FWIW, I've got a silver /
FWIW, I've got a silver / lead mine along with a copper / silver mine in Idaho (magnetic skarn)
A lode mine in Montana, with gold, copper, silver, lead, and zinc. The basement rock there is precambrian (roughly 2.5 billion years old), the gold is in mesothermal veins, and there's a laterite zinc deposit as well. (I sold my other mines out there, too far to drive)
A lode mine in the Oregon Cascades, epithermal deposit... has gold, but there's a lot of Stibnite (antimony sulfide), but there's arsenic in it, so a bitch to process (not profitable), there's also titanium and zinc there.
I've got 28 lode and placer claims in SW Oregon, mostly producing gold. Mesothermal deposit on an Accretionary wedge, and there's skarn there too... puts out great gold when you're on it. Our best day was 8.5 ounces in a limonite seam. There's diamonds over the ridge from us, but they're small, often black, essentially industrial grade, but I always love finding them (been a while though)
It really comes down to geochemistry, pressure, and tectonics...
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Various writers have
Various writers have postulated that the core of the planet Jupiter is one gigantic diamond the size of the Earth.
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earth is part of the universe
earth is part of the universe
i don't need a viva science expert to tell me that
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"It's amazing what really
"It's amazing what really goes on that we're just starting to figure out."
One of the conceits of the modern age is that we've got most of it figured out. We're not even close to being close.
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The more you know, the less
The more you know, the less sure you are. - Voltaire
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Truth Thom (2 words not
Truth Thom (2 words not often posted here I suppose, lol).
We had a very good understanding on our 500 acre block of claims, and geologists that visited had a lot to say, but after 4 years, most of it was wrong (basics good, specifics way freakier), with lots of things being found that's not suppose be there (has to do with the migration of manganese under certain contact metamorphic conditions, fairly unique, or is it?)